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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and so what if "Even carpenter" ? most items that crawl out from between woman's legs can never be a carpenter.

mircea_popescu: which is why societies that fail to teach basic numeracy to girls as a collective spring up all the time, and quite naturally : they are realising "savings" in the sense of bacteriums.

mircea_popescu: teaching MOST girls basic numeracy is not actually a gain for the most girls in question ; the whole thing is that for the ~very fucking few~ for whom it IS a gain, it is such a thundersome gain it eclipses the "inconvenience" imposed upon the majority.

shinohai: A monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will surely recreate Trilema!

a111: Logged on 2014-02-26 06:23 asciilifeform: channelling herr naggum: 'It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an inspiration to future authors.'

mircea_popescu: that's even a separate problem, naggum's http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-26#532023 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 15:37 asciilifeform: but i find it hard to see how it is not obvious that 'every sewer rat can publish' is a considerable damper on culture

mircea_popescu: and i don't even mean ~subjective~ functions here! it's not a case that "to the exceptionally gifted as identified by ivy league, worth as he is maybe $1000 with clothes included, the subjectively perceived marginal value of information is slightly negative. no, no, no, OBJECTIVE, you can tell him whatever the fuck you will and he will not have any use for it -- i don't mean "he won't be able to find any use, above his $1k pa

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do a few trades with the locals to get a feeling of the place an' report ; also gpgram me the story of bbisp fiat holdings ab origine. ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: should print a, e.g., valid perlism or pythonism, that has an, e.g., foo*bar==baz

asciilifeform: !A ?#

asciilifeform: !!A ?#

asciilifeform: aa it's a human one

asciilifeform: trinque: is there a changelog-eating vtron somewhere ?

a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 17:48 mircea_popescu: incidentally, there's an evident join here : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-18#1772670 and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759127 are evidently the same item. have a comment format for it and bam, project philosophy file with press history.

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773147 << I've got several cleanup patches coming before the walletsnip. anybody have a serious objection to me introducing a changelog in the first? ☝︎

asciilifeform: i.e. Product is only written to as result of the FZ_Mod call , http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch7_turbo_egyptians#L148 , which in turn , inside FZ_Mod, is a clean 1-shot, http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch7_turbo_egyptians#L102 . QED.

deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2018/01/20/urbanism-feminises-judaism-desexualises-or-the-waxing-fashionability-of-being-penetrated/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Urbanism feminises, Judaism desexualises. Or the waxing fashionability of being penetrated.

a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 17:12 mircea_popescu: i have a coupla problems in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773273 that design input is welcome on. 1. the intuitively correct format for this would be to make it a page (like http://trilema.com/eulora-shop/ ) rather than an article. but mp-wp pages don't take comments/pingbacks, which im starting to think is the height of idiocy.

phf: works out to about 170 pages of very nicely typeset source code. this is actually first time i'm working with printed source code proper (unlike ascii i prefer to work on-screen) and it's quite a joy

phf: dvi>ps i had to use a full tex install, because i haven't found a non-modern dvips implementation yet.

phf: in unrelated i managed to produce a literate programming dvi out of diff's source code from first principles. the actual content is not really a literate programing, since it was mechanically produced, and it doesn't yet compile since cat of headers and source produce a bunch of duplicate definitions, but first step.

diana_coman: hence the end of the line there: "I didn't really find a reasonable way to keep comments in"

mircea_popescu: every updatre to a footer (eg, the select script) has to take a bash script ? meh.

diana_coman: ftr I'm still on wp purely because there has always been something else topping the pile; I just about switched to statically generated pages too but I didn't really find a reasonable way to keep comments in

phf: gpgme doesn't tell you if original was armored, so requires a separate check (in before gpgme is evil), it does tell you everything about untrusted keys and source and such

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773313 << i wrote a little checker for eater, and the other one binary is asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch.asciilifeform ☝︎

asciilifeform: i wouldn't even have conceived of doing image munging with a php proggy. masochism.

mircea_popescu: 2. if i upload items, i'd very much like to use the already extant uploader ; but that thing puts everything in year/month directories. tho i think this is actually a good thing, tell people "do not link item directly, link the code shelf itself".

a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 14:39 mircea_popescu was considering making a similar item too, it's a pretty good idea.

mircea_popescu: i have a coupla problems in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773273 that design input is welcome on. 1. the intuitively correct format for this would be to make it a page (like http://trilema.com/eulora-shop/ ) rather than an article. but mp-wp pages don't take comments/pingbacks, which im starting to think is the height of idiocy. ☝︎☟︎☟︎

spyked is reading the spec ( http://archive.is/FQ7P ); until now, lived with the wrong idea that pingbacks are a wp-dependent thing. but hey, it looks pretty clear!

mircea_popescu: note however the format is flexible, there's a tag to announce rpc endpoint, and you can put there whatever you want.

a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 15:53 mircea_popescu: this is not even a fair statement : if you notice such a call in your log fail, it is YOUR item that is broken. the assumption that you're pingbackable is in fact ~The Right Thing~.

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773311 <-- pingback -- yes. XML-RPC -- dunno; I am not running php, so having a file called xmlrpc.php in my tree seems a bit odd; although I guess this is particular to wordpress, not to XML-RPC ☝︎

shinohai: Now your task involves getting sane output from a computer.

BingoBoingo: But is very nice to have a day where the task does not involve trying to recieve sane outputs from the locals

mircea_popescu: a bunch actually.

BingoBoingo: Going to need to get a beefier box here, likely going to be a beefy opteron fueled supermicro box

BingoBoingo: In other news, signing contracts Monday in the afternoon. This weekendś adventure setting up a MUSL webserver for Qntra.

mircea_popescu: this is not even a fair statement : if you notice such a call in your log fail, it is YOUR item that is broken. the assumption that you're pingbackable is in fact ~The Right Thing~. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 11:42 spyked: I am working on adding comments (one of the yet-untested ideas is reading only gpg-signed comments), but that's a low-priority item on todo list atm

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773258 << i dun think this is such hot stuff ; i personally wouldn't bother to sign just to leave a comment. but if you care, here's an alternative : make a bot, have comments be sent to it via command. iirc danielpbarron had something somewhat in this vein, dun recall how automated tho ☝︎

mircea_popescu: spyked re pingback thing, doesn't even have to be that hand-generated ; just walk the db, extract all links, construct the calls as shown and make curl calls. can be a bash script. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: you will need a scripting lang to do scripty things howsoever you turn it

spyked: in theory, the browser itself could do the highlighting. but this breaks the URL scheme by introducing a magic "#selection-x.y-z.w" class of anchors.

spyked: yeah. ideally, I would like to be able to look at the link and figure out to which text snippet it refers manually. or at least have a way to compute without parsing html. hm.

mircea_popescu: (but it is in some areas a progress -- for instance it has no concept of lines! all http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-06#1765765 ) ☝︎

mircea_popescu: highlighting in this novel sense is a mouse concept

spyked: but yeah, ^ w3m code is weird. and besides, I don't know how text highlighting is supposed to work in a text-based browser. highlighting seems to be a terminal thing, which is weird, because both w3m and lynx/links can be compiled with mouse support! which is essential for that js snippet in trilema, because iirc it relies on onMouse* events.

mircea_popescu: that's a plan

spyked: mircea_popescu, I wanna first get a working item (js highlighting for trilema anchors) then make everything link into a static binary, then post them. as they are right now, I expect them to be unusable on many systems (e.g. musl-gentoo).

spyked: which reminds me that there are a lot of things that I've left hanging since december, e.g. the w3m-js shinohai found that I rebased, and the ns-js library. left hanging because I haven't yet figured how to make trilema js anchors highlight in w3m-js (or any other text browser)

spyked: hm. "This exists because sourceforge went down for a week during July 2015, making it necessary to maintain local copies."; yeah, publishing these makes a lot of sense. I don't know if I'd find all the libraries I used for the blog if I were to look for them again.

mircea_popescu: hey, there ~already exists~ a sort of primitive "code shelf" on s.mg site : http://minigame.biz/eulora/source/

spyked: there are some dependencies on cl-who and a few other libraries, which for now are taken as they are (similarly to trb "deps")

mircea_popescu was considering making a similar item too, it's a pretty good idea. ☟︎

spyked: hi mircea_popescu. sure, I remember russell's thing. but is that really a problem? (as long as there's a republic to squash the cocksure idiots)

shinohai: Ah neat, thanks spiked! Will give a look-over

mircea_popescu: spyked phf uses a similar (handrolled, unpuiblished) item ; meanwhile lisp languishes in a sad marsh of unusability.\

spyked: shinohai, I use a self-rolled static page generator based on Common Lisp (CL-WHO) (and Pandoc for parsing Markdown, but pandoc and markdown are both optional, of course). I have the source code published on shithub, but it's mostly hacked together, so in this sense not very different from any static site generator. https://github.com/spyked/thetarpit.org <-- coad and text

shinohai: I was pretty impressed with your blog for sure, I am a terrible blogger myself. I might do better if I actually had a server to set up a blog on, but future project.

spyked: I am working on adding comments (one of the yet-untested ideas is reading only gpg-signed comments), but that's a low-priority item on todo list atm ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 18:34 mircea_popescu: !~later tell spyked hey, does your tarpit not send pingbacks or is there some error ? what's the response if you say curl -v -A "Mozilla/5.0" -r 0-4096 --connect-timeout 30 --max-time 10 "http://www.dianacoman.com/xmlrpc.php" --header "Content-Type: text/xml" --data "<?xmlversion="1.0"?><methodCall><methodName>pingback.ping</methodName><params><param><value><string>http://trilema.com/2017/re-reading-is-the-most-powerful-tool/

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773164 <-- it doesn't send them, but now that you mention it, I might be able to add a (manually-operated) thing that does this. otherwise, thetarpit is just a set of statically-generated pages via handcrafted lisp-based contraption ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 17:42 shinohai: This was actually a good piece too: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/069-on-intellectual-ownership.html

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773115 <-- /me raises hand. ohai! tuned in read-only since last seen, still have a lot to read before starting to voice opinions IMHO. also doing things, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-12#1769983 ☝︎☝︎

shinohai: ProTip: do not click asciilifeform 's link above if you have a hangover.

asciilifeform: i'm still waiting for anybody to suggest a pill.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 10:14 diana_coman: for the curious there are in fact 2 prolific-stamped documents describing pl2303 and pl2303x; pl2303x seems to be a sort of upgrade to 64bits but why couldn't it be properly identified as distinct I don't know

mircea_popescu: there's a subtle difference in drivers ; both claim to be the same one but are not

asciilifeform: it's a 'alt' pl2303

asciilifeform: shinohai: there's a 5v ttl serialport in there, too, if yer willing to solder

mircea_popescu: it's such a pleasure to see half a dozen people work as a team without needing to blather.

mircea_popescu: what, am i to surmise we're not as cool as snowden and strauss-kahn ? or rather that the empire sunk to such a depth it is not even capable of finding mendacious prostitutes/chambermaids anymore ?

mircea_popescu: it's a wonder the rape accusations aren't flowing, come to think of it.

a111: Logged on 2013-04-30 18:42 tiberiusiv: ;;tell mircea_popescu you are a fraud and a scammer

a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 19:13 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz there's no evident link from trinque to michael trinque for idiots who don't understand what gpg is, too lazy to click to your blog or read enough log to see stanislav, there's ~nothing "interesting" on mircea popescu besides a bunch of butthurt idiots complaining of ~same nonsense, and so on.

asciilifeform: this prompted me to try the 'googleate own name' exercise. hilarious snoar, as always. finds 1) my www 2) buncha folx who are not related to me in any way i know of 3) lame softwarepatent from a defunkt slaveship i used to row on 4) bitcoin-otc

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz there's no evident link from trinque to michael trinque for idiots who don't understand what gpg is, too lazy to click to your blog or read enough log to see stanislav, there's ~nothing "interesting" on mircea popescu besides a bunch of butthurt idiots complaining of ~same nonsense, and so on. ☟︎

asciilifeform: he forgot -a flag

mircea_popescu: kinda what tranny-ism, as a pars pro toto representative of pantsuitism, is all about : an undefensible pile of ineffectual bullshit.

mircea_popescu: </string></value></param><param><value><string>http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/069-on-intellectual-ownership.html</string></value> from a terminal ?

mircea_popescu: !~later tell spyked hey, does your tarpit not send pingbacks or is there some error ? what's the response if you say curl -v -A "Mozilla/5.0" -r 0-4096 --connect-timeout 30 --max-time 10 "http://www.dianacoman.com/xmlrpc.php" --header "Content-Type: text/xml" --data "<?xmlversion="1.0"?><methodCall><methodName>pingback.ping</methodName><params><param><value><string>http://trilema.com/2017/re-reading-is-the-most-powerful-tool/ ☟︎☟︎

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Error: "reputation" is not a valid command.

a111: Logged on 2018-01-18 23:36 mircea_popescu: what literate code is all about, nothing keeps you from putting a philosophy.preamble file in there.

mircea_popescu: incidentally, there's an evident join here : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-18#1772670 and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759127 are evidently the same item. have a comment format for it and bam, project philosophy file with press history. ☝︎☝︎☟︎

shinohai: This was actually a good piece too: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/069-on-intellectual-ownership.html ☟︎

asciilifeform: that's a rented 'ford' 150, i recognize the cardboard on the key

a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 15:50 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773051 << where did i say 'bw is free' or that i compare with spam vps ? trinque posted a heathendom figure of 700 ( trinque can answer when he wakes up , for what bw, i presume 100/100 ) for comparison.

trinque: but you're welcome to say "trinque is interested in renting rackspace through me. why was he given a different quote?"

asciilifeform: by all indications, a quiet, listeny/thinky sorta fella.

a111: 2017-11-22 <spyked> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yVbXl/?raw=true <-- most of it is config.sub and config.guess. two lines at the end may fix shinohai's troubles. anyway, I'ma post the whole thing (w3m+gc+js+whatever else) once I manage to do a static build.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, a) go sign contract ; b) did you actually get to see our rack yet ? if not now's the time to insist ; c) explain to them that money's coming in coming week one way or another, iirc they understand why ?

mircea_popescu: this is a whole rack being discussed here, i dunno if you realise.