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ave1: yes, but on a different architecture, i.e. you can build aarch64 on x86_64
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'll put teh scare quotes in a clown mask next time
ave1: I build it with gnatmake -Pffa_demo.gpr (I did this up to chapter 3 so far)
asciilifeform: i'll point out, this is not equivalent to 'build ffa', the gpr file is part of ffa, and contains essential functionality ( mainly , incorporates the restriction flags, mandates staticity )
ave1: asciilifeform, that work has been done, it builds a native compiler with gcc/g++ and gnatmake but not with gprbuild yet (this last one can be build on the target machine). I can build the FFA code on an aarch64 machine with the resulting compiler.
asciilifeform: ave1: i.e. is the tarball 'ready for primetime' ? ... or requires toothpicks, glue, and a month of ???
ave1: asciilifeform, Thanks! I seem to have made a copy and paste error. Links should be updated now...
asciilifeform: ( for the sake of thread-completeness, what would the ~alternative~ to this story look like? i suggest -- it'd be a process which does to ic fab what 'polaroid' process did to colour photography. find way of etching the circuit from prefab 'sandwich' without caustic baths, sputtering, etc... ) ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i also gotta point out that to make larger ic is quite more than linearly moar painful ( 1 defect --> rubbish; larger die , with 'orc' process, means that P of fatal defect approaches 1 )
asciilifeform: i.e. not the typical meaning of 'garage', and not replicable by anybody without either couple-deca-$mil or 25 yrs of access to just-so junkyards
asciilifeform: ( how this is possible -- i've currently nfi )
asciilifeform: phf: i saw 0 mosquito nets anywhere in BingoBoingostan
phf: but at the same time i suspect that the hostel in question doesn't for example have mosquito nets on bed frames, so it's possible that nigger runs deep in this particular case.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806496 << first world "men" don't understand the concept of hygiene, i suspect that as the infrastructure starts failing this would be the number one reason of rapid decay. hygiene not just in a sense of "washing hands", but the idea that there's certain procedures that you have to follow in order to not get fucked over by the environment ☝︎☟︎
mod6: jurov: Ah, alright, thanks for checking. It's weird because I did check the clearsigned file before sending, verified fine. Mail Client / ML must have magled it.
jurov: I have got this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2Bfjx/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: it has six extra days for ease of calendrical bookkeeping, let me know if this does not suit or i misunderstand in some way.
mircea_popescu: ah so there's actually just two and yeah i see, nm.
lobbes: ah, okay, perhaps I'm doing this wrong. I assumed that I needed both the ircbot and logbot to be running and connected to irc concurrently
lobbes: okay, so I should be able to run the logbot-with-multiple-channels-corrected portion as long as I run the ircbot portion as the original?
ben_vulpes: lobbes: yeah i have one running
lobbes: my logbot-genesis instance worx fine, but I will need to have this thing sitting in at least two channels
lobbes: anyone out there with a running instance of logbot-multiple-channels-corrected (ben_vulpes, danielpbarron)? I've run into the same issue alf was having >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758074 ☝︎
pinochle: deconstruct, refine and communicate on republican terms and in consumable bites ; that is what I shall do
pinochle: there is not a word I disagree with ; so I have errored in that way, but the path forward is clear
pinochle: I see ; a motivating factor for going off and building was, selfishly, to learn
mircea_popescu: alright ; and you figure "hey, i implemented a poker bot" is this ?
pinochle: yes I did
mod6: !~later tell jurov Please check the ML pipes, I think I got one stuck.
pinochle: in the past I worked as a trader ; studied probability in school ; current work is building predictive models, often an exercise in futility
mircea_popescu: you can't ; because i don't know you. did you see http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803676 ? ☝︎
pinochle: mp, can I interest you in a game?
pinochle: I've completed an implementation of http://trilema.com/2018/trilema-poker-bot-spec/ ; In an effort to not barf all over the logs, I have it up and running in a separate channel for demonstration. Any lord interested in playing some hands can join #polkaroom
mircea_popescu: some people enjoy it (called "entomological interest", here). i'm rather of the opposite persuasion, as detailed in http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/
zx2c4: re:your ECC skepticism and RSA-love -- a while back the NSA changed the Suite B recommendations to partially remove ECC for new crypto systems and also removed P256 IIRC. There was a great paper analyzing what the possible motivations could be, i think called 'an enigma inside a riddle' or something goofy like that. Let me find it...
mircea_popescu: iirc i overstayed my visa by about two years.
BingoBoingo: In other news the hostel this weekend is full. The staff helpfully let me know in advance so I could prepare. Given it is Autumn and the weather this weekend is biased towards torrential downpours I wondered "Who would be vacationing here at a time like this?"
ben_vulpes: i'm curious who's going to pay the 48MM
mircea_popescu: nobody is poor because they're fucking stupid and generally worthless ; they're poor because i'm mean or some dumb shit like that.
mircea_popescu: i'll grant it's a little difficult to guess what's going on from far away. if you don't say anything people are going to eventually assume something random.
esthlos: mircea_popescu: I will watch for that. Last thing I want to do is to waste anyone's time
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, hard to pick the relevant transforms from the box, what can i say. if this weren't the case "computer security" would be more akin hygiene.
esthlos: no, was this in past few days? I'm behind
esthlos: I did, but did not mess with it enough, apparently
asciilifeform: then i admit i'm a bit surprised
asciilifeform: esthlos: i recommend to take vtron and experiment with it until you grasp how it works, it will click in your head quickly
esthlos: aha, so if I want to patch "as close to genesis as possible" the mpi lib, AND I want this patch to be used in diana_coman 's proggy, the ONLY choice is to patch current leaf of diana_coman 's proggy
esthlos: asciilifeform: this is where, I think, I failed
asciilifeform: hmm yea this doesn't fit the style of the other pgs, i'ma make it 1 colour
esthlos: hmm, I did not realize that patching the genesis directly would have those effects on diana_coman 's work
asciilifeform: ( 'factor' pgs also, i suspect, could use one )
asciilifeform: this is the correct picture. i'ma add a legend on top of the tbl.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i see exactly as archive sees it : https://archive.is/rMv67
asciilifeform: esthlos: yer missing, i suspect , whole point of v
diana_coman: hm, why new genesis, I don't follow?
esthlos: if I make decrudification a patch on the genesis, probably requires no changes to eucrypt vpatch tree. but if it's a new genesis, tree breaks, no?
esthlos: so let's say I remove the "secure" bits of MPI code for the sake of honesty. is this a needless complication of the eucrypt vpatch tree?
asciilifeform: at some point in near future i'ma add annotations per factor (e.g. 'debian', 'mikrotik', etc )
asciilifeform: ( they are sorted by # of mods that contain said factor, i.e. the middle column, the clickable one )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-28#1806202 << how wouldja change the markup? i thought it was pretty clear, on http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factors page, that you click the modcount to get the page of that factor , with detail ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( i have no intention of ever building anything whatsoever on it , myself )
esthlos: cool, I may make a patch which rips it out.
asciilifeform: i suspect that swapping only even exists as a possibility in current day os because of wreckers.
asciilifeform: esthlos: imho absolutely not; i haven't built a linix box with swapping to disk enabled, in decade+ ( 'secure alloc' simply means 'marked unswappable' ) ☟︎
ave1: I found out that GNAT 2016 has some support for arm 64bit, but for android and ios and not for linux. So I had to do some small patching (I also looked at the 2017 version and I still could not find plain linux support in the adacore gnat)
ave1: When done + test that the cross compiled gcc actually works on an arm system I will publish.
ave1: Currently I'm building the final version (I hope, I was thinking the same thing a couple of days ago)
ave1: I've been working on getting a arm 64bit cross compiler + a cross compiled arm 64bit compiler, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-28#1806178 ☝︎
phf: asciilifeform: aha, i figured
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not sure what i was trying to say there. that's not the first time i cold emailed someone, and also not the last one. i'm just making sure s/n doesn't stay too high
asciilifeform: phf: if it wasnt clear -- problem is solved, i have the machine going
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805634 << i emailed chromeunboxed.com guy "Robby Payne" on recommendation "they will know", haven't heard anything back. actually first time i cold called an online "specialist", not going to try that again ☝︎
trinque: wallet commands will be unavailable for 1-2hrs, after which I'll announce when reconnected.
trinque: hey folks, deedbot wallet announcement. there'll be a planned outage starting at 3pm. I'm moving infrastructure over to a new location, with what I expect to be a more reliable fiber connection.
asciilifeform: i'ma read comments/barfology laters; off to ffa room nao!
spyked: oh I see. but then does the 16+ alphanum shortening apply only to phuctor, or to all the feeds?
asciilifeform: i have this on my conveyor under 'make arm gnat' but not gotten to it yet.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it doesn't have to screw with the machinewide gcc; can do as part of buildroot ( iirc buildroot even supports auto-building gnat the same way i built e.g. arm7 gcc with it; but requires a running gnat to be present on the machine where it is done )
diana_coman: at any rate it's not the sort of thing I'd try directly on a remote machine as it messes up with the local gcc so this will be fun
mircea_popescu: if i want to move my eulora server from jam to gnat i am stuck... doing what ?
diana_coman: did anyone publish a compilation recipe for adacore's gnat on republican gentoo? searching the logs returned only various troubles and otherwise mod6's attempt as most recent from what I can tell: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685215 ☝︎
spyked: to anticipate a potential discussion on this: phuctor's feed is actually in "Atom" format, so it does have a unique "id" tag; maybe I should be using that as an identifier (and, respectively, the "guid" tag in RSS feeds) instead of the link.
spyked: also asciilifeform ^ re same, is it normal behaviour for some links to be posted twice on rss? I guess it does that when it finds >1 factors for the same key? asking because my experimental rss uses post links as IDs, so it posts at most 1 factor for a key.
spyked: you ain't seen nothing yet. just wait till I publish my other coads.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805936 <-- lol, I was looking for it! but in all seriousness, I'm very happy to see thetarpit being read and generating comments. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 15:23 lobbes: Neato spyked. I'm sure I'll be putting your guide to practical use once it comes time to implement the self-voicing bit of the eventual tickerbot I'm building
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805932 <-- coincidentally, I also want to use it to implement self-voicing. although tbh, in the long term I'd love to see the unix world dependency go away. ☝︎
asciilifeform: been a while since i heard of anybody jailed for ~selling~ warez on physical disk tho. i was convinced these died with the '90s
asciilifeform: mod6: still recovering from whatever that was i picked up.
asciilifeform: douchebag: historically i've found that setting up a gentoo box to 'workstation' standard takes 2-3 wks. (depending , though less than you might think, on the speed of the comp.) fortunately 99+% of the work has already been done for you on that box.
mircea_popescu: this is going well i see...
douchebag: https://i.imgur.com/zwRe5Ei.png
douchebag: I'm installing vim on the rockchip box right now
douchebag: Yeah, I never really got much into Gentoo because it always takes so damn long to install everything from source
douchebag: I've always used Arch and I currently use MacOS as my primary OS
douchebag: and thought I lost the gpg message that contained my credentials
douchebag: and I had overwritten it
douchebag: i save it as x.asc
douchebag: with all pgp stuff I decrypt
douchebag: thanks to lobbes bot I found an archive of it