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phf: diana_coman: haven't had problems with usb reads, i've struggled with getting octets across ffi boundary before, which is probably what you're remembering re my work

asciilifeform: from my current reading of diana_coman's code, the only major diff b/w the official manual's test scenario, and diana_coman's, is the init thing.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i agree, this kind of thing is absolutely impermissible, and gotta get to the bottom of it.

BingoBoingo: diana_coman asciilifeform: We did recieve a pile of new USB ttl cables. Swapping the cables for fresh ones is a troubleshooting option.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: see if you get same horror on the old, non-musl box

asciilifeform: diana_coman: is http://btcbase.org/patches/eucrypt_manifest/tree/ current ?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: plz show me where you init

asciilifeform: diana_coman: is this using the code currently published in dianacoman.com ?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: start by making sure you don't have multiple instances reading

asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is immediately interesting and i'd like to replicate

a111: Logged on 2018-07-28 12:22 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-27#1838045 -> thanks, paid

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i can see this pov. fwiw my emulated mircea_popescu says : 'if ameritards were given their just deserts per their actual productivity, they would then lack not only their gas stove, but would not even have primus'

a111: Logged on 2018-07-27 18:03 mod6: !!invoice diana_coman 0.14485298 Invoice for one year of Rockchip + FG

deedbot: Invoiced diana_coman 0.14485298 << Invoice for one year of Rockchip + FG

mod6: !!invoice diana_coman 0.14485298 Invoice for one year of Rockchip + FG ☟︎

mod6: I did pay annually for mine, diana_coman. At today's price-point you're looking at:

mod6: diana_coman: I was just getting to your question, I didn't miss it :]

a111: Logged on 2018-07-27 06:44 diana_coman: mod6, I don't recall: was there any option to pay yearly for the rockchip?

lobbes: mircea_popescu: this makes a lot of sense, ty. Ima read diana_coman's blog post you referenced and study Mocky's style of communication. I will then provide a proper eta tonight

mircea_popescu: so don't do that. instead, see diana_coman 's theoretical work on managing this (ie http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/06/its-only-words-and-assumptions-and-priorities-and-ouch/ ) and take for instance Mocky 's very effectual style ( http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-22.log.html#t13:56:10 / http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-25.log.html#t19:48:59 etc ). doodn's managed 27 builds of a mining bot NONE OF WHICH WORK to date and i'm

mod6: diana_coman: Same message for you above here ^. However, you're all paid up through August 4th.

mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : Ben and I worked out a prorated amount for UY3 for the month of July. It comes to a total of 19 days, which will amount to: 0.03542985 ☟︎

trinque: diana_coman: glad to hear your success with it. what's left on my end is to smash the gentoo profile we're using into a single dir. you can find these at /usr/portage/profile , which weighs about 20mb iirc.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc all that remains for trinque to do re cuntoo is to integrate ave1's gnat into portage; and properly mirror the tarballs

asciilifeform: diana_coman: oh hey neato

a111: Logged on 2018-07-16 15:23 diana_coman: basically I have zlib installed and I even checked: it IS in /lib but ./configure doesn't consider it fine

asciilifeform: i recall, diana_coman posted re subj, 100+MB 3d lib liquishit

mircea_popescu: diana_coman for the record, i count this in confirmation. if we look at plots-over-time, the introduction of antibiotics limited severely but not completely eliminated both afflictions.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman aristotle literally says "no one would do wrong knowingly".

mircea_popescu: diana_coman neither of those are it, i guess ima embark on a re-read expedition, it's discussed somewhere 2015ish pretty sure

a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 13:46 phf: or is tmsr ada whatever ave1 put into his musl build, which is, worse, a political situation. diana_coman can argue for her ffi stuff to be included, should i be arguing for my get/put stuff to be included?

a111: Logged on 2018-07-16 15:44 mircea_popescu: thoughts plox! (and i specifically want everyone to say at least an ack, so let's page asciilifeform ave1 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo danielpbarron diana_coman hanbot lobbes mod6 phf spyked trinque )

a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 01:01 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835608 << speaking of diana_coman do you recall where the whole food / pay for server thing was announced ?

phf: but i remember diana_coman saying something about her code not compiling in ave1's because interfaces.c is not included. i'm not sure if she was talking about the former or the later

phf: or is tmsr ada whatever ave1 put into his musl build, which is, worse, a political situation. diana_coman can argue for her ffi stuff to be included, should i be arguing for my get/put stuff to be included? ☟︎

esthlos: diana_coman: heh, it was supposed to be "model"

a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 02:01 mircea_popescu: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/07/17/discriminatory-code-sharing/ << i'd say this is broadly correct ; though i somewhat disagree with both ave1's take (as in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835508 ) as well as diana_coman implict take here ( say in "hat they decide to do with it, if anything, is of course their own call entirely." ) in the following limited sense :

mircea_popescu: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/07/17/discriminatory-code-sharing/ << i'd say this is broadly correct ; though i somewhat disagree with both ave1's take (as in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835508 ) as well as diana_coman implict take here ( say in "hat they decide to do with it, if anything, is of course their own call entirely." ) in the following limited sense : ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: i've read some possibly asciilifeform-able selections from it ( diana_coman's mpi ) , to date that's iirc all

a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 16:04 asciilifeform: Mocky: i in fact do not have objection to it either way, it is a stylistic decision for diana_coman & mircea_popescu , not mine to make

a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 17:04 diana_coman: the overall idea is to pay authors of clients based on how much their clients are actually used

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835608 << speaking of diana_coman do you recall where the whole food / pay for server thing was announced ? ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 13:35 asciilifeform: diana_coman: asciilifeform's pov re the retardation of 'open sores' , rms et al, is that they are tards not because they throw open the coad to allcomers but because they have no concept of wot , therefore were unable to conceptualize vtronics .

a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 17:04 diana_coman: the overall idea is to pay authors of clients based on how much their clients are actually used

a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 13:36 diana_coman: it can of course dig into binaries and get the hashes from A or B and then pretend their own code IS A or B but ..so what? i.e. author of A or B will get more money, is that bad?

a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 13:35 diana_coman: it can compile it as much as it wants, server won't answer for one thing

asciilifeform: diana_coman: the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835553 formulation suggested 'protection mechanism', but i guess i've nfi ☝︎

asciilifeform: Mocky: i in fact do not have objection to it either way, it is a stylistic decision for diana_coman & mircea_popescu , not mine to make ☟︎

Mocky: asciilifeform, assume for the sake of argument diana_coman said 'dun care about make use difficult, let them use whatever works', do you still have objection to that?

asciilifeform: Mocky: this is a q for diana_coman ? ( as i understand, it is meant to make the use of obsolete (currently published) client , moar difficult )

a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 13:41 asciilifeform: diana_coman: the conundrum from my pov is that why to bother with protections if 'so what if they break, not as if it does anything'

asciilifeform: diana_coman: the conundrum from my pov is that why to bother with protections if 'so what if they break, not as if it does anything' ☟︎

asciilifeform: diana_coman: right, but point was the futility of promisetronic 'protections'

asciilifeform: diana_coman: some folx are 'griefers' , neh, they will break just to break.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835371 ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: diana_coman: asciilifeform's pov re the retardation of 'open sores' , rms et al, is that they are tards not because they throw open the coad to allcomers but because they have no concept of wot , therefore were unable to conceptualize vtronics . ☟︎

asciilifeform: but imho this is a decision intimately for the folx who actually wrote the thing ( diana_coman , mircea_popescu ) , i've no skin in the game

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i don't see any problem with eulora making its src members-only ( whether l1 or the 2 people who actually work on it etc ) but will admit that i still don't see what it adds, other than ceremonially. the monkey herd can still plagiarize the existing published src .

ave1: diana_coman, nice write-up!

a111: Logged on 2018-07-16 17:43 diana_coman: there's the golden goose too! and for that matter there was that "pay the oracle to give you answers" event for all the good it did

a111: Logged on 2018-07-16 16:01 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, there is of course the fact that l1 is neither for life nor perhaps yet all that difficult to get in and out - I don't know whether this is a l1 matter or a s.mg board matter

asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is common problem in fiction

mircea_popescu: diana_coman entirely my arbitrary call. i'll put whatever strings in there i put, and well... what can you do.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman it does, yes.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman you can ask for whatever you'd ask, neh ?

asciilifeform: i dun actually have any problem with idea of trade secret, where mircea_popescu & diana_coman keep their server to themselves under pillow etc.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman no, he means he spent 20 years with the retards, ended up soaking in inept notions about "intellectual property"

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it is possible that i misread the entire thread, but my understanding was that it was about considering the idea of no longer defaulting to open publication of e.g. cuntoo

asciilifeform: diana_coman: idea being, secrets have a place, if i did not believe this i would not have any interest in crypto. but their place is ~where must~, not ~wherever possible~

mircea_popescu: diana_coman on re-read, i agree, suboptimal wording on my part (owing, principally, to lack of terminology)

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it is precisely because i do not see a public outside of l1, that i regard the idea of 'l1-only publications' as in most cases wrongheaded

mircea_popescu: diana_coman note that "binary identity" is not even necessary a premise. you can go "hey shithead, why the fuck are you linking dynamic mysql when there's been a static one for five years". or w/e. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: diana_coman you see the code he deeded and see can't reproduce. so now you two have something to talk about

mircea_popescu: diana_coman well because say mocky does the release. ima frown if his release sucks, and he doesn't want that ; and his toolchain is to be expected better than literally rando camwhore's, "i dunno how kleopatra works". neh ?

mircea_popescu: diana_coman that part is coincidental ; it just happened that the first candidate for testing this paradigm happened to be owned by minigame.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman yes.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman to whatever he wants to pursue. be it "you fucking assholes" or whatever else.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: deedbot gives iron pill against disputes of priority, without keeping any kind of seekrit

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it isn't impossible to keep a seekrit, but proposition re doing so to a proggy that has to run on colo'd boxen ( in many cases outside of festung pizarro, even ) is dubious imho

mircea_popescu: diana_coman this depends. "in general" it's dubious people can keep sexual secrets ; and yet women managed to keep mine from betas for many many years.

mircea_popescu: thoughts plox! (and i specifically want everyone to say at least an ack, so let's page asciilifeform ave1 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo danielpbarron diana_coman hanbot lobbes mod6 phf spyked trinque ) ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: diana_coman yes, me above lol. "is there a libgl ? yes. is it located somewhere ? no."

a111: Logged on 2018-07-16 14:03 diana_coman: oh, and in good news it turns out that older version of screen compiles fine on proto-cuntoo, hooray!

a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 15:09 diana_coman: ftr screen also fails and I'd rather have it than not have it but it's not a eulora dep in itself

a111: Logged on 2018-07-15 13:31 diana_coman: asciilifeform, re screen & nohup: metoo! but nowadays I do use screen a LOT

a111: Logged on 2018-07-13 15:31 diana_coman: asciilifeform> shinohai: trying doesn't hurt. and iirc somebody actually got a mechanical-hdd node to stay synced more or less decently with aggression patch -> yes, I did

a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 15:09 diana_coman: ftr screen also fails and I'd rather have it than not have it but it's not a eulora dep in itself

mircea_popescu: diana_coman fucking hysterical, whole package dead because some 'my_print_stacktrace' function ? printing is the death of "open source".

a111: Logged on 2018-07-14 15:40 BingoBoingo: diana_coman asciilifeform KVM is pulled

BingoBoingo: diana_coman asciilifeform KVM is pulled ☟︎

asciilifeform: diana_coman: know what, yer right, i'ma let him dig.

asciilifeform: ( supposing diana_coman or trinque don't cure it first )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: was mysql the only eulora component that misbehaved on musl ?

brazilish: diana_coman: i saw on the foundation site that you have an advertised node

brazilish: diana_coman: ok

BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty, going to get some caffeine in me and make it there

brazilish: thanks diana_coman