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phf: hat time it was concluded that the effort of mac upkeep is not there, and i believe that's also when mp/diana decided to go with a custom protocol for a future non-crystal space implementation ☟︎

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817823 << the taps you're using are for previous release of eulora (which already had some odd issues on mac, but worked). i took a stab at updating them when the latest release came out, and enough targets moved that it was again non-trivial to build the stack. i've managed to hand build it/jerry rig homebrew to build it, but the result out of the box was working even worse (mostly i lost textures entirely). around t ☝︎

ben_vulpes: i'm not prodding you about "issues" you mighta "noticed" but to think about who's involved in your decryption and signing flow.

douchebag: ben_vulpes: I've never had any issues doing what I need to do, I can get root privs so I never really noticed any issues.

ben_vulpes: purged it manually, after throwing the "no seriously i am a grownup" switch?

douchebag: ben_vulpes: I don't have iPhoto installed

douchebag: I've been running MacOS for about two years, prior I used Linux for 6 years. I love my Macbook, I find that I can multitask a lot better, the window manager is great

LordMPofTMSR: well, i think most people hate them because they're inept and unwieldy, not specifically "compromised" whatever that even is.

douchebag: LordMPofTMSR: I know, I just haven't seen evidence proving MacOS is comprimised other than the fact that it's a large company

a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 22:17 douchebag: Well, although many people will disagree with this statement. I'm a pretty boring person, and I'm not too concerned about if the NSA is watching me - if the NSA wants to watch me they will do it regardless.

LordMPofTMSR: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817840 << this is not so different from saying "i have plenty of blood, and if the lice wants to get it they'll get it regardless." hygiene is not directly a consideration of denying the alimentary cycle of parasytes ; it's rather a question of self-respect, and in the 2nd line a question of socialization, because no matter how cool you might be "otherwise", at least some chicks won't fuck you with lice no matter ☝︎

LordMPofTMSR: then i dunno

Mocky: ok, I found it: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-09#1401054 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-09#1401055 ☝︎☝︎

LordMPofTMSR: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817823 << the only person who either managed or almost-managed (or, i guess, were going to manage) running eulora on mac was phf, maybe two years ago. i dunno it ever went anywhere ; nor am i all that sure macs are computers. ☝︎

ben_vulpes: i'm obliquely suggesting that you have nfi how your keys were put together because the layers of abstraction are too thick.

douchebag: I'm not really imagining it does anything, I just happened to make my keypair in the VM because that's what I was using at the time I created thm

douchebag: Well, although many people will disagree with this statement. I'm a pretty boring person, and I'm not too concerned about if the NSA is watching me - if the NSA wants to watch me they will do it regardless. ☟︎

ben_vulpes: i do not think this does what you think it does

douchebag: ben_vulpes: I use MacOS as my main OS because it's actually pretty nice for work. However, all of my sensitive stuff (PGP) happens in Linux VM's

ben_vulpes: brew edit $formula might help, but i ditched the mac nigh for reasons of pervasive upgradism like this a year ago, haven't looked back, can't suggest that you spend much time doing battle with republican softs on the crapple.

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817710 << yes, i seem to make these kind of homonym errors a lot actually, and i reread the sentence every time, but don't see it until the issue is pointed out. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2015-11-18 14:54 asciilifeform: shinohai: 'i heard that ivan won a car in the lotto.' 'yes! but not ivan but piotr, not a car but an overcoat, not in lotto but at cards, and not won but lost'

asciilifeform: i suppose it's possible if ~whole thing is disinfo , in the style of http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-18#1326332 ☝︎

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817713 << I'm unfamiliar. I found this: http://trilema.com/2016/introducing-permanence/#comment-117184 But I don't understand. Many things here I struggle to understand in real time, in this case at all. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: controlling the future is the ultimate point, there's no "if onlyt i could control the sunrise time i could make myself some cheap coffee"

mircea_popescu: well ? i mean what, you want to control the future now, as a SIDE POINT ?

mircea_popescu: so basically your objection is "why don't i have more friends" ? i dunno, why don't you ?

asciilifeform: if tomorrow usg decides 'btc will crash to 5k' and moves the arrow on goxes to 5k/per , everybody goes 'it's 5k', even folx who swear they never look at a gox. imho this is a bug. and no i do not have a proposed pill. is all.

mircea_popescu: i don['t follow.

mircea_popescu: why sit and fret that "which thing i choose to do -- is the thing i choose to do" ?

asciilifeform: it does not solve the problem ( am i only one who sees it as problem ? ), merely moves it , like the orthodox j00z moved their bread oven lighting to goy-modem

ben_vulpes: i intend to do this for the july bills. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i did read this ( both 1st pass, when posted, and last night )

a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 04:53 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1738849 << i had entirely forgotten this, ty mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: i'm not objecting to the 'opens tcp to to usg server' part. but to the price signal.

mircea_popescu: it's not that "nobody can be arsed". is that, unlike asciilifeform , nobody regards website-with-random-numbers as relevant. i also don't spend my time trying to "be mentioned by new york times".

mircea_popescu: i'm not "earning" the sub's submission. you read say http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/NQRtP/?raw=true now on the third pass through the logs ?

asciilifeform: ( 'nobody can be arsed' is imho a valid hypothesis, and i've nuffin to offer against it )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking moar re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817438 thread. it is almost certainly the case that the usg gox ensemble would try to prevent a hypothetical usg-long mircea_popescu from buying up all of the coin and sending price to maxint. but what could they do to prevent 9000 types of insect who show up to buy 9k coin to take to 'we give 50k/per' dispenser. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817678 << i expect. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 15:04 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817293 << i started writing a lispy make-temp-directory but the implementation is not particularly elegant (C concerns are at odds with lisp concerns), you can pouch the ccl bits though. i'm not sure if there's a better way to do errno handling, without relying on private ccl symbols

Mocky: reminds me of the time I 'invented' the trie in anger, meanwhile knuth vol 3 sitting on my desk (having not finished vol 1)

Mocky: well I've seen the bitcoin foundation page before so evidently 'mocky invented' ~= 'mocky pulled from subconscious'

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-23 05:54 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817605 << i think he might have stolen it WITHOUT PERMISSION

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817568 << When I tell the girls I am reading on the balcony they always ask "What book?" ☝︎

spyked: ave1, printenv | grep CFLAGS/LDFLAGS both return nil so I'm okay on that front. but my glibc/ld are post-gcc-4.9, so your explanation about system headers being used sounds plausible.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( handling cash in orcistan where cash van robbery is national sport, is , i'd expect, not inexpensive ) << Seems more like a tourist activity done by Chileños here

asciilifeform: ( handling cash in orcistan where cash van robbery is national sport, is , i'd expect, not inexpensive )

ave1: I will look into it further, but I have no time for it right now.

ave1: spyked, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817663, no problem in fact the opposite. This helps in getting the cowwebs out of the build process (I've also tested on machines with gcc 7). The build process is picking up the glibc linux headers at a point where only musl headers should be used. This is usually caused by a system library being picked up in the build process. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817526 << I am wary of brining payments to the datacenter that they might lose, and during the earliest meetings they wrinkled their noses when I offered the possiility of showing up with envelopes of cash while waiting for a local bank account. I suspect they have a cultural hangup against eating anything other than wires due to their self images. ☝︎

phf: (i think a proper lisp interface ought to separate pathname defaults from the name pattern, so you call it like (m-t-d "fooXXX" #p"/tmp/") but return #p"/tmp/fooabc/". that's not a consequential concern for anyone except for me though)

a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 02:43 esthlos: btw trinque, have made most of changes to vtron, just have to add mkstemp for ccl (which I know thanks to phf is #_mkstemp)

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817293 << i started writing a lispy make-temp-directory but the implementation is not particularly elegant (C concerns are at odds with lisp concerns), you can pouch the ccl bits though. i'm not sure if there's a better way to do errno handling, without relying on private ccl symbols ☝︎☟︎☟︎

spyked: native gcc on the system is indeed >4 (5.4 to be more precise), but I expected that one to not be used at all? anyway, that might it. in this case I expect my next run to finish without trouble. ☟︎

spyked: I'll also give it a shot on a machine with native gcc 4.9 (trying to do this in the weekend), to see if there's something wrong the system headers on the other one (so far this is the only guess I have re the failure)

spyked: hey, ave1! I gave http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-partial-and-parallel-build-support/ a run and I'm sad to report that it failed. attached a screenlog of the run at http://lmogo.xyz/randomio/gnat-musl-screenlog.0 (notice: file is ~5MB in size). unfortunately my hands are full now, so I've no time to dig further, but I'll provide any further info if you need.

Mocky: I can make it post, then it will show on main page, and archive

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-23 05:54 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817605 << i think he might have stolen it WITHOUT PERMISSION

a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 04:26 esthlos: trinque: I'm a geometer, always searching for higher symmetries, unifying disjoint worldviews

ben_vulpes: plans" should be, so look at pricing as well. if these rates are attractive to the market and we get out there and flog 'em i think there's some money to be made

ben_vulpes: landing pages and ad copy is not a gadget i know how to work, so let me know what you think. this also has what i think the "

douchebag: Ahh I see, saw an article earlier and I've had a taste for wine ever since

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817605 << i think he might have stolen it WITHOUT PERMISSION ☝︎

mircea_popescu: not really ; i mostly keep up with the girls.

mod6: I gotta catch some zzz's, but I'll talk to you all in the AM. Night!

ben_vulpes: dooooon't care, just stoppit. spend more time watching and listening and learning the cultural norms and if you're going to deliberately not follow them then i'm interested in your good reason per http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-23#361418

douchebag: Yeah, I'll definitely start using p.bvulpes.com more. It's just a bad habit because I use discord a lot where I can post multi-line messages & screenshots are automatically displayed to people.

ben_vulpes: which i can't even fathom dude because wtf you're willing to clutter up the logs with line after line of key noise and then otoh...screenshots

ben_vulpes: douchebag: yeah i'll drop the neg but you gotta work on picking up how shit works around here. the list of annoying crap you do is unenumerable but the two things that drive me personally up a wall are eg http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-23#361197 and then also posting screenshots of text

ben_vulpes: ahahaha oh man i just reread my douchebag rating

danielpbarron: that you care about your bad reputation goes a long way for me, but i can't say there is anything in particular you can do to remedy. if you don't do anything else annoying i'll prolly switch it to positive the next time i go through my ratings.

ben_vulpes: i read the logs, saw your ping.

ben_vulpes: not hassle me while i chew through my whiteboard

douchebag: ben_vulpes: Is there anything I can do to resolve my negrate?

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i am enjoying this pace!

asciilifeform: aha i also LL(1) parsed it

ben_vulpes: i'm planning to die on stage soon, this is good practice.

asciilifeform: i think he's bringing up the fella who failed to shoot aha

mircea_popescu: i dun get what you're saying!

mircea_popescu: i mean, "hm ?"

mircea_popescu: being shaved a half penny by dishonest riding broker is not anywhere in "will arbitrage work or not work" risk table either ; but so help me i'llfucking shoot the one that tries.

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1738849 << i had entirely forgotten this, ty mircea_popescu ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i dislike being skimmed, s'all.

asciilifeform: while i agree in re 'penny saved is penny earned', wr and wu fee diff does not rank 1st, or even 20th, in the expenses table

ben_vulpes: trinque: this, i press. and for reason.

asciilifeform: different, i suspect, worlds.

mircea_popescu: surety based on the fact that i now and again send girlies around the world various $nothings.

mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure there's a bunch of wu/store credit cards for bitcoin outfits that actually work

ben_vulpes: i don't have notes on this, he may contradict, but that is my memory.

ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: objected to walking two grand usd over the the dc; shit was busy at the time and i didn't press.

asciilifeform: and admittedly i last saw during bush reign.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i thought wu was extortionate.

mircea_popescu: i'd guess a 5k ish wire is actually an "optimal" in the sense of "lowest worth actually wiring" amt.

asciilifeform: prices are published, how else, esp if selling, as we evidently must ( tho i muchly wish it werent so ) to heathendom

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ah i see whjat you mean now, i thought you meant you hate the idea hitler can see pizarro-set price and ride.

ben_vulpes: now now, i dislike the extra wire fees and coordination overhead trinque .

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun like that it's tied to goxes, not the fact that it's public

mircea_popescu: i guess i misread

mircea_popescu: i thought that was the wu