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asciilifeform: phf: as described above.
mircea_popescu: but for the other thing, and more important i guess : it's strictly impossible by now to distinguish teenager daughter from wife in a film. not only because the fucking actresses represented as sexually powerful are so fucking neotenuous it's uncanny ; but also because of the retarded habit of giving women the same age all the fucking roles. they're all "29" ; and finally because fucking hell family relations in anglosphere...
asciilifeform: taiwan is a dr.mengele creation of usg, just as, e.g., israel, and i can't fathom how it could outlast the creator
mircea_popescu: in line with what appears to be the xi policy. he's gutted the bureaucracy, which obviously pissed off all the wanna-be 14%, as what he aims is very much in line with the mp definition of government ("may exist for as long as i don't see it")
pete_dushenski: is mike_c going to be switching btcalpha over to deedbot- then ? or a new wotsite needed as well ? /me is a big fan of btcalpha...
pete_dushenski: will deedbot- be the new ratings/wot bot as well ?
PeterL: is there a plan to have an assbot style ticker in this chan as well?
pete_dushenski: http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/03/serious-question-can-a-parrot-act-as-a-witness-in-court.html << computers are cheaper than women, but perhaps not cheaper than parrots
asciilifeform: y'know, idiots who fell for 'renewable wind and solar economy!111' will as easily fall for human mule power station.
mircea_popescu: even something as obvious as "settling the end date" will be interesting to reflect upon.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the curious student of political history, i'd gladly read a piece explaining the differences between the "denazification" as carried out by the allied control council from 1946 onwards ; and the various internal troubles of the eastern socialist party, whether you pick dekulakization, or de-trotskyfication, or great leap forward or w/e.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have nfi. i hope somebody gets some use out of it, because ftr i don't, i find it == as interesting as the sports crud.
asciilifeform: and the american съезд кпсс is ~equally influential and interesting as the original.
asciilifeform: y'know, as a boy, i was playing with other boyz in the yard and mentioned съезд кпсс , and they laughed. i learned lesson - for life. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: PeterL this assumption is known as the memory hole effect.
PeterL: are you going to use the same voicing model as #bitcoin-assets?
mircea_popescu: and so, this is the end for this particular irc channel as a venue for tmsr. the irc festivities are moving over to #trilema ; with a more selective lordship list and improved tools all around. you're welcome to join - but leave the fiat mind behind, lest it drag you too back down into the swamp.
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mircea_popescu: i can readily understand that fiatism has been for all and sundry the unique way of life, since "forever" ; i can see how the shit is well ensconced and difficult to wash off. nevertheless, loyalty to a group, as opposed to the individual, is still socialism, as much so as either GOP or NSDAP ever were. preserve that and you preserve it all.
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no place in the future, or among civilised people, for this "hi i r zuckerberg and i ~created~ facebook" thing. i can see how it continues the "oh, mp is raining money, let me not get in his way" thing from before, but consistency in poltroonism does not enact poltroonism as an acceptable life philosophy.
mircea_popescu: upon consideration, i see no reason to continue supporting or otherwise encourage kakobrekla's bizarre worldview. on the contrary, i view further involvement with the nonsense as considerable moral hazard, and a miserable thing to do altogether. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: jurov: Orange chainsaw chaps tend to be just as assless as leather motorcycle chaps.
asciilifeform: as in, motherfucking constant-space.
asciilifeform: no 'aggressive mayogendered' as far as the yes can see...!
assbot: Logged on 27-03-2016 10:24:02; asciilifeform: incidentally, gnat is actually written in ada. and is quite readable... (in as much as such a thing can be called readable)
asciilifeform: incidentally, gnat is actually written in ada. and is quite readable... (in as much as such a thing can be called readable) ☟︎
mike_c: but new job is settling in (as is new kid)
cazalla_: don't see how teh tax will change anything anyway, consumers will just pay it as no other option (sif they're gonna drink water)
cazalla_: as for soda (fizzy drink tax), nfi about the UK, but that consumption of that has been on the decline here for years
jurov: his professed utter inability to function as mobster aside
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the bar for "conference organizer" as an identity pillar includes tits & gtfo and so on. it's a job dita von teese gets cred for, typically.
BingoBoingo: And it isn't so much a fork as... "historical artifact conveying truth" (TM)(R)
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 18:06:37; punkman: lol Falkvinge, "If there's no profit to be made in using bitcoin as a drop-in replacement for credit card payments, bitcoin will not be deployed at scale. Deployment and outcompeting legacy systems depend entirely on merchant financial gains from rollout."
asciilifeform: i care about wars between reddits about as much as i care about the competing anthills in the forest.
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 17:19:29; shinohai: !rate nubbins` -10 I'll wear this as a badge of honour from a person too cowardly to negrate me in logs.
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -10 for nubbins` with note: I'll wear this as a badge of honour from a person too cowardly to negrate me in logs.
shinohai: !rate nubbins` -10 I'll wear this as a badge of honour from a person too cowardly to negrate me in logs. ☟︎
asciilifeform: same part as found in ti-92 calculator, circa mid-90s
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2016 15:01:08; deedbot-: [Qntra] Small Usenet Provider In France Raided As Terrorists Strike Europe - http://qntra.net/2016/03/small-usenet-provider-in-france-raided-as-terrorists-strike-europe/
deedbot-: [Qntra] Small Usenet Provider In France Raided As Terrorists Strike Europe - http://qntra.net/2016/03/small-usenet-provider-in-france-raided-as-terrorists-strike-europe/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: is this a redo of the "chinese hackers" fail from a coupla years back, just tried with a smaller power that's not as likely to make them eat their hands ?
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "seeing" loyalty. loyalty is always blind. when it's not blind it's called seeing your interest.
mircea_popescu: people new to the topic of how the democratic cancer spreads may just as well read orlov's last bit linked by alf, or any other of ten billion treatises on the topic.
nubbins`: as of yesterday when mp tried to get kako to kick me out and kako said no
nubbins`: anyway, i sorta knew from the start that most people would just blithely ignore mp's wrongdoings. this is a chan where you can scam as long as you're "in the crew"
nubbins`: you may have mistaken madcaptomfoolery as my personal blog, judging by the fact that i noticed it on your "friends" links list the same day it was removed
nubbins`: i as well
nubbins`: reek streams in all the way from Bs.As.
nubbins`: not as lulzy as mp trying -- and failing -- to just ignore me
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2016 00:30:23; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2016#1439691 << haha! how pretentious. its almost as entertaining as the miners konspiraci. anyway, unlike bitbet which was a shared toy between us and was damaged beyond repair by your foolish actions for which you dont care to take responsibility (but will be, on the end, enforecd upon you), let the record state #b-a is solely my creation and you inhabited the
asciilifeform: 'Some situations do not have a ruling and are explicitly listed as teyku. Such passages occur 319 times in the Talmud and are listed by Jacobs (1981). The meaning of teyku is not definitively 2 known. Its literal meaning is akin to “it stands,” in other words, the problem is unsolvable. On the other hand, another tradition suggests it is an acronym for a phrase meaning that the Biblical prophet Eliyahu will come and sol
mircea_popescu: i guess might as well try this.
mircea_popescu: i'm about as interested in participating in democracy of any kind or description as you can imagine. #b-a existed to any degree and in any sense for as long as it wasn't that. it can go back to being #okcupid or whatever the fuck else the "power of the people" warrants.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 23:35:31; mircea_popescu: 2 requires the man who just saw the product of his not-inconsequential efforts die over "not doing what mp says, with money" have to choose whether to do what mp says... but with people, this time. we did in fact start this channel together, just like bitbet, and he did do a lot of infrastructure work here, just as there. so... what do ?
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2016#1439691 << haha! how pretentious. its almost as entertaining as the miners konspiraci. anyway, unlike bitbet which was a shared toy between us and was damaged beyond repair by your foolish actions for which you dont care to take responsibility (but will be, on the end, enforecd upon you), let the record state #b-a is solely my creation and you inhabited the chan a week or so later. and yes, ☝︎☟︎
pete_dushenski: but ya, being as rich as i thought i ~wanted~ to be by this point would not doubt cause as many problems as i imagined it'd solve. besides, what fucking problems ??
mircea_popescu: 2 requires the man who just saw the product of his not-inconsequential efforts die over "not doing what mp says, with money" have to choose whether to do what mp says... but with people, this time. we did in fact start this channel together, just like bitbet, and he did do a lot of infrastructure work here, just as there. so... what do ? ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: reviewing that, i can either 1) log as mod and ban the schmuck or else 2) ask kakobrekla to alter the l1.
mircea_popescu: while it is incontrivable that the lordship has failed utterly, and is in no sense the guarantor of keeping spammers and idiots away from the forum as intended (youhadonejob.png!!!), that is a distinct and separate problem from what to do with #b-a.
asciilifeform: i created v specifically as an anti-git.
jurov: mrottenkolber: it's fine, as long as this won't cause V to take up complexity from git
asciilifeform: nubbins`: and here i was thinking i could at least achieve championship as arse.
asciilifeform: and lay out what i see as logical case, etc.
asciilifeform: and by commenting, was fulfilling what i see as my obligation to work in the forum.
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 20:04:38; jurov: kakobrekla hanbot is trying to explain to everyone that mp, by covering operator error and covering other expenses, earned the moral right to sometimes shift the bill to the shareholders as he deems fit
hanbot: jesus fuck jurov, were you bitching about bad faith or not? were you using the fact mp ate a loss before as a justification for why he should do it again or not?
asciilifeform: anyway i'm not personally mentally invested in any of this, and won't shed so much as nanoliter of tear .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is the priviledge of the great to try and raise the crowd ; it is the priviledge of the crowd to prove that this can not be done. very well specified, and working as intended.
mircea_popescu: i'm not going to read further logs, at all, for as long as nubbins` can speak into them.
mircea_popescu: as if you'd have decided where to eat and where to shit or somesuch.
asciilifeform: as in, the answer is not producible from the axioms.
asciilifeform: and what was agreed upon as 'settlement' ?
asciilifeform: so why should it not claim the doublesend as part of what was owed ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: as i understand, it was proposed as to one possible solution to formalizing the promise made by bbet when a bet is made.
hanbot: jurov if i got plastered and proceeded to crash my car into your house last week and paid for the damages without question, and this week i'm carjacked and hit your house again, you may not use the fact that i happily paid for the former incident as proof that i should pay for the latter, and you may *especially* not attempt to use it as proof while complaining about my "bad faith"
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2016#1439254 << not improvement. breaks bbet as a mixer. ☝︎
jurov: well, if you made coding error resulting in 18BTC loss, pushing it to shareholders as "cost of doing business with C machines" would be perfectly fine
jurov: kakobrekla hanbot is trying to explain to everyone that mp, by covering operator error and covering other expenses, earned the moral right to sometimes shift the bill to the shareholders as he deems fit ☟︎
kakobrekla: but if you can go around losing bitcoins as you please without consequences the whole thing is, how do you say, moot
PeterL: what do you mean 1% fee spammy, that is what they take as commision
asciilifeform: jurov: so long as <= 1MB, fine!
asciilifeform: jurov: such as.
jurov: such as, bitbet to generate "yes" "no" and "refund" transactions in advance and merely publishes one when time comes?
asciilifeform: as in, ALGORITHMICALLY evaluatable.
nubbins`: just as well to call bbet a thieving swine for keeping that poor asshole's 10 btc that showed up late.
trinque: you are thinking as someone in the fiat world
nubbins`: as a privately-owned corporation, i can do pretty much whatever the fuck i want
nubbins`: if i act as an elephant and declare it so...?
asciilifeform: davout: but say the 1st tx went into dev/null as mircea_popescu intended it to when sending the 2nd. would the bettors have been wronged ?
trinque: if he acts as the business and declares it as so how can it be otherwise?
nubbins`: i've never seen such vehement opposition to simple discussion of factual events as i've seen in here the past few weeks
asciilifeform: davout: esp if the slope is not the least bit slippery, much as some folks might like to pour soap on it
nubbins`: you don't get to claim a third party handing me cash as your own payment.
asciilifeform: if i promise that you will be 100btc richer tomorrow, and i choose to pay you by dropping it from an airplane into your chimney, so long as no one else contests that it was i who dropped - the debt is paid.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: aha! so treat the obligation as to the inanimate object: the ADDRESS.
PeterL: <asciilifeform> but if any of them had seen it fit to return so much as one satoshi of the doublesend - i assume mircea_popescu, kakobrekla, or davout would have mentioned. << If I did want to return part of doublespend, where would I send it and be sure MP does not just pocket it?
asciilifeform: whereas if we paint them as 'people,' they then had a ~choice~ re: what to do with the coin.
asciilifeform: but if any of them had seen it fit to return so much as one satoshi of the doublesend - i assume mircea_popescu, kakobrekla, or davout would have mentioned.
asciilifeform: so what then does ben_vulpes give as argument re why the double-send should not count against the obligations remaining ?
davout: because as far as the whois is concerned, the domain contact is... chetty
asciilifeform: i however see the notion of not fucking-with-a-hammer those malodorous thieving swine who silently kept the windfall and LEANED ON THE GROUP, as ultimately very expensive.