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BingoBoingo: <erlehmann> “just don't hold it that way” << Generally this is how tools work. Do not hold chainsaw by chain.
erlehmann: “just don't hold it that way”
trinque hasn't a clue
erlehmann: > Our code didn't prefix the Hex string with 0x and when we upgraded Geth from 1.5.3 to 1.5.9 on the 24th of May, the SHA3 function call failed and our sweeper process then called the contract with an invalid data payload resulting in the ETH becoming trapped.
phf: ng on his nick results in 404. likewise when he does !!up or !!rate deedbot claims that he's not registered. this doesn't look like an operator issue
herbijudlestoids: doesn't really seem like anyone is around except for you
BingoBoingo: I don't remembe
BingoBoingo: No idea. Haven't played since I sobered up.
phf: there's no "democracy", you're in deedbot's level 2 web of trust through my rating. there's a handful of useful people in l1 that can at some point decide that you shouldn't really speak anymore. that's about it. if you ever become useful, you can get into l1. thus the s/r is maintained
phf: there are no rules. she doesn't recognize most of the tracks and get indignant because "i love the 90s!1" but of course through the prism of whatever survived into the early 2000s
phf: i have nothing else to add to this conversation, i am though playing "have you heard this eurodance track" game with girl, where i play something that ~everyone~ danced to in the 90s, but didn't survive the test of time and see if she heard it
phf: kek "don't write undefined behavior" ☟︎
asciilifeform: you can't actually write a nontrivial c proggy without undefined behaviour. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
erlehmann: if you don't like undefined behaviour, don't write undefined behaviour
erlehmann: i don't get the hate against optimizing c compilers at all ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and if you haven't been doing it for ~decade+, you generally can't do it. at. all. )
phf: no idea, nock(..) doesn't work, so i did a substitution to *[57 [4 [0 1]]] and it gave me 1
asciilifeform: i didn't !
phf: (actually i'm not getting the same result from ascii's version as you do in your evaluator, but i don't want to devote any more time to it)
erlehmann: also non-existence dependencies. yeah, i read it at djb's website, but if his implementation does not exist (not published = not existing in practical terms), i don't care about his opinions regarding that.
asciilifeform: we don't do 'ideas have own merits'.
asciilifeform: trick is : i don't believe in large programs.
asciilifeform: i gotta admit : i don't consider the problem to be a very interesting one
phf: but that makes copy pasting harder (you can't just select a chunk, because it now includes line numbers and blame)
phf: hmm, k. i haven't paid much attention to that styling, because i don't think anyone's using it, including myself. the press part definitely needs more ux work
phf: i actually patched it in the offline, but haven't had a chance to update the deployment
asciilifeform: latest twist was that some d00dz ~partially~ reversed lattice's toolchain. but their shit ~doesn't work, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-16#1604097 ☝︎
erlehmann: i once met rms at a conference and asked him about viability of free hardware. his answer was along the lines of 1. apparently non-free hardware has worked for decades 2. whoever makes your board can still subvert your trustworthy design, you can't check that 3. maybe if we have star-trek-style replicators one day, hahaha
a111: Logged on 2015-06-17 13:17 asciilifeform: you can pick up a textbook and write a dram controller for fpga from first principles - and it won't work. because, for starters, only a small number of output cells in the chip can function on both rising and falling edge of clock cycle (what 'ddr' means) and only xilinx's closed turd knows where they are in the routing fabric;
asciilifeform: the history doesn't change.
asciilifeform: problem is, THEY DON'T EXIST
asciilifeform: i'd still like to replace it with a civilized fpga for which you don't need a 20GB closed source shitware toolchain
asciilifeform: ( open source, and author sells the pcb, so you don't have to necessarily make the pcb by hand )
asciilifeform: so then you don't have your layout. ~unless~ you did it in hardware.
asciilifeform: ( sooner or later you will boot into something -- hell, even if only bios setup or rescue disk -- or an ancient lappy on kvm, etc -- that doesn't know about your magic layout )
asciilifeform: even if you don't winblowz, remapping keyboards only works well in hardware imho
mod6: i don't know
asciilifeform: mod6: you wouln't leave 1 lead off voltmeter hanging in the air, wouldja? same idea.
mod6: nada. wasn't sure on that.
mod6: got the probe setup on the out pin. been waiting to try this. just didn't incause I fuck it up.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the tiresome faggots who keedp going "oh mom, i too could be an atlas couldn't i ? i'm tall enough ?" are no fucking object of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: how about "man ain't interested in your dumb bitch hut, starve."
asciilifeform: and it also isn't clear to me why -- even when the corpse really Musted Die -- maggots are somehow 'respectable'
mircea_popescu: this per se isn't a problem.
a111: Logged on 2014-01-26 19:37 asciilifeform: just as the chinese replied, in '89, to 'why tanks?', with 'we aren't the u.s., can't afford warehouses full of "humane" riot gear'
mircea_popescu: nor is this only the problem of governance. for years before sham ustardian marriage ends in divorce wife begs for some checks, which husband doesn't provide because idiot ; but then really has no one else to blame.
mircea_popescu: and i don't seem to recall his problems with the fucking reds.
asciilifeform: ( spoiler : didn't work )
asciilifeform: i suppose mircea_popescu is posting from parallel universe where 1917 didn't happen
asciilifeform: unless yer rounding up ~defenseless gypos etc , 500kilocorpse is called 'civil war' and it doesn't come with a guarantee of win
mircea_popescu: but nicholas was just ascending, it wasn't his fucking fault alexander was a faggot.
mircea_popescu: you don't fucking apologize to the cow herd for IT having stampeded.
mircea_popescu: they really don't have much of a clue. happy go lucky sort of tree dwellers.
asciilifeform: still doesn't explain why university. who attends it ? anyone publishes in it ? how does the setup work.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-02#1664526 << i'm entirely shocked he didn't divorce. ☝︎
asciilifeform: it is tempting to think of inflation as a scalar, but it isn't a scalar.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of the "новые высоты прогресса и цивилизации", it can't quite escape one's notice that EVERY SINGLE FEMALE of reproductive age without exception lives in this thing where the bed is always within physical reach. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i suppose europe's equiv to this was the old story that marie & louis supposedly didn't shit for a week prior to heads-off
mircea_popescu: "oh, can't take it with you" "wanna bet ? fucking imbecile lazy schoolboy, oh what's the teacher gonna do, flunk all of us. you'd better fucking believe it, what!"
asciilifeform: doesn't really work for non-keyboard, non-mouse
asciilifeform: if you can't put it on rubber stamp -- it sux. if can't print on business card in b&w -- useless. if won't read after a week glued to a light pole -- useless. if won't read after bullet hole in it -- useless. etc
asciilifeform: doesn't load
asciilifeform: i won't take credit for crapolade ( picture marmalade from liquishit, say ) but have nfi where heard it.
trinque: oh christ, no, I didn't mean that
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i can't comment on the autos of 'less poor' folx, never bought mclauren parts.
trinque: look in 2040, if bitcoin doesn't sling enough dick that there are sane parts to be had, better seppuku
asciilifeform: ( one that doesn't drive you to consider a new auto )
trinque: these I don't know why anyone would buy, unless he has the money to buy the manufacturer when he wants something.
pete_dushenski: worx great because plebs don't use keyboards anyways. too ON THE GOGOGO. because mobility-oriented donchaknow.
asciilifeform: ( async-with-handshake simply does 'if i don't get handshake, i won't send' )
mod6: isn't that what the Dr. Meter does? you set it to 5v and it's g2g. i've verified with multimeter (Fluke) that it does spit out what it says it spits out.
trinque: switched to a vape briefly, decided I didn't want a hot battery in my mouth.
mircea_popescu: i suppose when he was alive they weren't letting her get close enough ?
mircea_popescu: "why didn;t you pull it down back when it'd have meant something" ?
mircea_popescu: there weren't any during the 1k years either.
asciilifeform: statues don't fight back, either
trinque: kids can't stand up straight; objects that can't but otherwise, naturally offensive
asciilifeform: hey, the ukrs TO THIS DAY haven't run out of lenins to topple
mircea_popescu: i don't think they go by what could be described as criteria.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: linux seems to have a problem with >7 usb-tty devices -- but this ain't asciilifeform's fault
phf: because as it stands it all very much looks like "we don't need solutions because dat grant money"
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 15:36 mircea_popescu: this i suspect is generally the case, if an item doesn't contain deadly possible states it is more properly a toy than a tool.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 15:43 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663769 << yet procreation works whether you wash your dick or don't. scandalously, it seems it actually works better if you don't.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663769 << yet procreation works whether you wash your dick or don't. scandalously, it seems it actually works better if you don't. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663768 << let me tell you what it does, because i recently ran a browser games check. a) won't allow email from domains with >3 char tlds. because VALIDATING INPUT, yes. b) won't allow your password. it's too long (yes), it has special characters (o ya), it whatever on a stick. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this i suspect is generally the case, if an item doesn't contain deadly possible states it is more properly a toy than a tool. ☟︎
asciilifeform: why, can't wait ?
Framedragger: isn't it fun that even C macros are not context-free, huehuehue. such language!
erlehmann: Framedragger probably. won't visit UK anytime soon.
phf: erlehmann: well, i said "parsing" i didn't say grammar. there are different ways to write a parser. btcbase uses a readtable dispatch based parser to construct an in memory vpatch structure, i just checked, in about 90 lines of lisp. presumably if somebody wanted to write a parser using yacc, they'd have to write a lalr grammar for a vpatch
asciilifeform: because so long as you stay in the voltage and hold time constraints ( and you won't be violating these over internet ) it will give correct answer, now and 1000 yrs from now, to all physically possible inputs.
Framedragger: i don't believe they are actually suggesting that doing key gen on third party is a good idea for user. discussion was about performance, no? (granted, did not read whole paper)
phf: erlehmann: that is true, but doesn't take into account complete attack surface. i agree that "write a proper parser" should be the first step, but that's also a baseline. problem is that most of these protocols are either non-regular, have types that depend on state (e.g. a fixnum whose range changes based on a flag), or are outright turing complete
phf: erlehmann: people who can't roll their own grammar can still buy two separate machines though
phf: fwiw, input parsing should probably be solved through compartmentalization. don't run mpg123 on your gnupg machine. in any case djb likewise said all that needs to be said about "secure languages" in his "Some thoughts on security after ten years of qmail 1.0"
erlehmann: i also highly prefer it if people talk to me like that. the worst people are those that are like “please send me this and that” – “send me an email with the full details of what and where i should send it please” – “can't you just infer it from the last time you mailed me something?”
asciilifeform: finite tapes technically ain't turingcomplete
mircea_popescu: republic ain't gonna do it ; it's gonna tell YOU to do it
mircea_popescu: i suspect you ~don't~ get the "many implementations" thing after all :D
mircea_popescu: hadn't read that, no.