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mircea_popescu: because of the exact problems you discuss i'd guess 1/4 or less of nodes are publicly adressable

a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 15:44 asciilifeform: in unrelated noose, mod6 et al : loox like trb doesn't remove banned peers from its addr table ! i.e. offers their addrs up to others, as if they were proper noades!! i never noticed this previously, it had to wait to be found empirically. really oughta be fixed, and pretty simple patch.

asciilifeform: already turned up a buncha oddities re noades -- for instance, just about errybody not-trb still sends out gavinalert (with 'key compromised!' message. wai -- i have nfi )

mircea_popescu: i dunno right off lol

mircea_popescu: i think it's already evident this, in the serialization discussion

mircea_popescu: (better than "i'll wait to patch it in directly at the right time" because the "right time" mioght never come seeing how the people in question don't know what you're patching)

mircea_popescu: i was thinking, has major chances of being pulled as a patch into eulora-something.

asciilifeform: i expect e.g. diana_coman will eventually need mmap

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reminds me, i prolly oughta genesis 'horsecocks' aka mmap-for-ada

mircea_popescu: "I packed the above code as a .vpatch on top of the previous genesis .vpatch mainly for keeping my original promise of showing this being built as it is with detours and corrections on the way. Otherwise this could equally well be a genesis in itself given how radically it changes pretty much everything in there. Nevertheless, at least for now - meaning until a final version is achieved and a regrind makes perhaps sense - I'l

asciilifeform: i dun expect those chinese crates are bottomless.

asciilifeform: this will be a cuntoo box, when i get around to redisking it ☟︎

asciilifeform: as i understand, it's a temple, they had'em in 3000 bc just the same, heathens pray to their peculiar gods

mircea_popescu: dumb as fucking rocks also, and i would like to introduce mission street in sf into the record as exhibit fucktards.

asciilifeform: i.e. unable to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1861117 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: 90% of the time i try to read something, the attempt fails ; and almost always it is because the author is insulting my smarts, not my intelligence. they're all such intelligent men, from sf writers to hayek to what have you. the problem is that they're not smart. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: which i stand behind, ftr ; and it is also what informs the "if they had any sense -- they'd be here" stance. the fact that rando can't cut through fetlife to find the meat / can't cut through internet to find trilema / can't cut through femstate to find bitcoin / can't cut through pantsuitism to find republic etc specifically means that rando is dull, ie, not smart. ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: Mocky i actually distinguish between smarts (the reductive ability, that powers "i suspect there's no such thing as intelligence", and typified perhaps best by d. kyon) and "intelligence" (the constructive ability, that powers "more loc, more tech, more future", and typified perhaps best by "fm-2030" ). ☟︎

asciilifeform: Mocky: yes it's an imaginary object. q is whether 'imaginary like devils' or 'imaginary like electron cloud'. i favour the latter, mircea_popescu , i think, the former

Mocky: I can see that view, but by evaluating it only education and experience, runs into the same >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-18#1863542 ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i obv dun have a reductive model, and dun know of any honest people who ever claimed to. but this is somewhat diff thing than 'to even try model is waste of time, it's rngolade'

BingoBoingo: I'm coming back around to that position

a111: Logged on 2018-09-11 00:26 mircea_popescu: "i have this inorganic polymerization model which permits me to predict the behaviour of calcium-based matrices and also predicts that should you replace the calcium with strontium, the oxigen content cvadruples ans there's need for an item extra in there that's just like aluminum for so and so reasons"

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> in usa just walking through that door would be a $1000+ ding << For completeness, there was also the option to have a "radiodoctor" do a house call, but I figured the intel gathering opportunity on the hospital at a time when I'm a least several days removed for threat of mortality would be the higher return option

mircea_popescu: we have mechanical model for strength, and i can make predictions BEFORE the fact, and built entirely on measurements unrelated to "please lift this weight"

asciilifeform: some lions can be trained to play 'tetris', others, no matter how much stick and cookie, not, mircea_popescu of all people i expect would know this

mircea_popescu: i do not belive, since we're doign disbeliefs, in this starry-eyed view of intelligence where it's a gift, like ambidexterity, or a property, like penis size, and "life can enhance or dishance it".

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: near as i could tell, d00d had plenty of native intelligence. but grew up in the circus, and so knows nuffin but idjit acrobatics.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have little confidence in this "all humans born human" hopes.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I said no, I don't need the note. If I go back I'll get one the next time

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform douchebag is pretty much the only thing i don't really want. "Once complete the children are sorted by score, and the bottom thirdi is sold by open outcry (the males are neutered first)." and all that.

BingoBoingo: I was also asked if I wanted a note to take off from work, because apparently that is what 80% of the other ER walkins were there for

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which i count as a great benefit.

asciilifeform: ( my model dun differ so much from mircea_popescu's, aside from where i lump the digg & reddit waves together in lump element, afaik they consisted of largely same lost souls )

asciilifeform: i missed this one

mircea_popescu: i mean, 1993 was cycle 1. then there was the wikitardia thing, alongside "slashdot" and "fark" and so on. that was defo 2.

mircea_popescu: and i think w'ere really on cycle 5

mircea_popescu: in fact, 80% or more of what passes fro "creative" these days, ie shitty cable shows and "stand up comedy" consist entirely of "recognition porn". turtles visiting tokyo, "hey, turtle from osaka, you too thought the tram was a large dog ?!" "yes turtle from kyoto, that's exactly what i thought when i first saw a tram, did you think so too ?!" "yes this is a brilliant idea to think".

asciilifeform: imho biggest surprise re mircea_popescu's fetlife dig is that any actual chix turned up at all. i wouldn't have expected there were any.

mircea_popescu: and yet, http://trilema.com/2017/i-think-they-might-be-overdoing-it-in-places/#selection-97.159-97.461

mircea_popescu: apparently there's nothing quite as destructive of the human mind than insistently inculcated & socialized conviction that "there's a lot out there". i liveblogged how this fucked up argentina, ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-31#1442615 will have to do, i can't find the original discussion with the local dork now) and well... ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i would guess about 60% or so of 2?F "sub" girlies exist on fetlife only as the fruit of the overactive imagination of a beta "M" somewhere.

mircea_popescu: "littlems_muffin 21F sub 6d Your fantasy of obtaining already serving woman is fucking sad mate! Not even close to a reality. Go fuck yourself instead. Do not disrespect me again. Master Ivan" "LordMPofTMSR 37M Master 6d Oh sorry, I thought it was Igor."

asciilifeform: for what, i wonder, for daedalus ?

asciilifeform: i learned, for instance, that '80s-born folx in usa never got smallpox vaccine

mircea_popescu: i find this kinda hard to believe.

asciilifeform: it's what i thought ! but apparently not

mircea_popescu: i have nfi what you're talking about. as far as i know ~all white kids are vaccinated around 1 year and then right before kindergarten ; and have since about 1920.

asciilifeform: tho i did think the 'vaccination, eh, so 19th c' thing were a recent ('90s?) fashion

asciilifeform: prolly goes without saying, but i'ma perma-ignore anyffing that aint on ipv4

asciilifeform: candidates added via peer recurse (i.e. getaddr output) start with state 'untried'

asciilifeform: i'm currently thinking of giving 'tx observatory' a rollover of 3 days ( i.e. drop all that have time older than 3d, nightly ) to keep the mass manageable there

asciilifeform: ^ and if anyone has a handy dumpblock-derived list with which to populate known_blocks , plox to sign & post, otherwise i'ma bake one laters

asciilifeform: ( i betcha his cellmates laugh even today when he tells about this, over a cup of whatever-they-drink-instead-of-chifir over there )

asciilifeform: i've ended up on the spam lists, they push errything from dead-tree 'how-to'-s (because, i suppose, if chump is this dumb, he is prolly on aol, and can't download scans, and will ~pay~ for xerox-of-xerox...) , to faux bananistani 'passports', to weirdo sect/christ-besotted crapolade

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i once bought a lamp for indoor tomato pot; still getting occasional spamola re 'growism'

asciilifeform: that's the Official arg, at any rate; but i suspect a broader thing

asciilifeform: i suppose if yer found with 'stockpile', it 'proves' that you didn't get it from them ( why wouldja stockpile a thing that comes from 'abc store' )

BingoBoingo: It also is apparently illegal in Canadia to have more than 30 grams of "legal" weed. I never recall there being any limits on how many budweisers a cornfuck can keep in their fridge.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-17#1863344 << i expect it'll be something like the traditional state vodka monopoly in ru ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-03-04 13:39 davout: I started looking into how bitmex's engine actually works, and god, it's an abomination

a111: Logged on 2018-10-16 20:36 Mocky: BingoBoingo, usually by the end of winter I look like a coffee with too much cream, but slightly too much summer sun and I turn into kunta kinte for 6 months

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-16#1863300 << i think he now also counts as african-american. ☝︎

trinque: going to intentionally reboot and make sure I fixed what didn't resurrect last time

BingoBoingo: ATTN: Over the next few weeks I will be making some fairly big changes to the Pizarro website (theme chopping, pictures, etc) If the pizarro site is broken and stays broken please let me know.

Mocky: BingoBoingo, usually by the end of winter I look like a coffee with too much cream, but slightly too much summer sun and I turn into kunta kinte for 6 months ☟︎

diana_coman: I can easily picture that really; at any rate, I got otherwise at least 2 shades darker after the few days by the ocean and even now (so...2 months later) I'm still darker than my natural shade

diana_coman: ahahah; well, I did get sunburn on my shoulders in Costa Rica but mainly because of being in the water most of time while at the beach

asciilifeform: when i was in BingoBoingostan, found myself on numerous occasions wishing for cork helmet.

diana_coman: I can say the same, but honestly, it was never enough protection against the sun (and fwiw I have thick hair anyway)

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I did wear the UV filters today

diana_coman: kk; I'll keep up this approach of published-even-if-stumbling small steps so on one hand there is something concrete to shoot down if needed and on the other hand we can correct any trouble early on, hopefully

mircea_popescu: things are kinda deliberately made to dovetail with ada, so i hope they do and if they don't we fix.

a111: Logged on 2018-10-16 13:56 asciilifeform: diana_coman: you won't need to do any of the streams horror that i did there, because those of your subfields that are arrays, have strictly bounded sizes

asciilifeform: back when i wrote in c, i also serialized/deserialized 'just once', when casting packet to the correct struct, but to precisely nail down the latter required gcc-specific pragmas, as c per se does not give this ability. but in ada the required knobs are standard.

diana_coman: anyway, when I get to the data structures, I'll see re serializing

asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is correct, i think you grasped it

asciilifeform: it was one of the items i saw back in '16 and thought 'hmm'

asciilifeform: same proggy i took the udp lib from

asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you get stuck i'ma show you how to make it go, cleanly, i have a working example of nearly the same thing you're doing ( gossip prototype thing ) that simply hasn't been cleaned for publication of yet

asciilifeform: diana_coman: you won't need to do any of the streams horror that i did there, because those of your subfields that are arrays, have strictly bounded sizes ☟︎

diana_coman: at any rate when I get to the records I might come and whine loudly if I get stuck ☟︎

diana_coman: I did; and I will re-visit it

diana_coman: I expect /hope so; meanwhile it's very good to have that observation there, thank you!

a111: Logged on 2018-10-16 11:51 mircea_popescu: man-drive dialogue flows always like : "i want file X" "wtf is that ?" "tell me what i told you before file X is supposed to be" "bytes 4978459876 through 50987498098" "i want bytes 4978459876 through 50987498098 please" "here you go" "are these file X ?" "fuck you" "does file X even exist ?" "little bitch..." "grep -a -C 500 'known pattern' /dev/sda | tee /tmp/recover"

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-16#1863198 << yes fs is a 1960-style db, i thought this was obvious ☝︎

asciilifeform: diana_coman: if my nitpick isn't clear, i can post an example later today.

mircea_popescu: man-drive dialogue flows always like : "i want file X" "wtf is that ?" "tell me what i told you before file X is supposed to be" "bytes 4978459876 through 50987498098" "i want bytes 4978459876 through 50987498098 please" "here you go" "are these file X ?" "fuck you" "does file X even exist ?" "little bitch..." "grep -a -C 500 'known pattern' /dev/sda | tee /tmp/recover" ☟︎

bvt: i have already reworked the code based on the following code from GNAT: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/xjjec/?raw=true (g-locfil.adb, lockfile implementation). i.e. System.Address of an aliased String as argument to C function.

bvt: thanks, i see what you mean. the Interfaces.C.Strings.New_String() comments explicitly say that the heap allocation is necessary for the large strings, which is not the case for vpatch temporary file names.

a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:13 bvt: ave1, can you expand on getting rid of string allocations? I see a way to get rid of it for Mode, but not for the Path argument. i can move its c-string from heap to stack, but that would be it. anyhow, i will revise this aspect.

lobbes: yeah, that makes sense. Ol' causes and purposes. The only cause I can see right now for separate bot is if wanting to keep it on separate box

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862873 << Thanks for reporting. I'll add this to the list to take a look @ & replicate. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i guess the idea is, i dunno what you're trying to achieve ?

lobbes: but maybe you have a point. I gotta noodle on it. there's a balance somewhere

lobbes: well I'd retire lobbesbot once everything rewritten.

lobbes: but there's still the !Qlater tell, the #eulora log-quoting, #eulora log search, etc. I guess I figured why not take the opportunity to organize vastly different functionalities into separate bots. (e.g. all the logger-related functionality in one bot, auction/ticker-announce/price-history in auctionbot, everything-else in 'miscbot')

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862788 << this is a good idea for a feature. Once I get logbot-voicing figured out I'm thinking of setting up a general purpose 'miscbot' for such things as the later-tell and the duckduckgo search. I'll try and work this into the later-tell feature ☝︎

lobbes: I'll start working to get the voicing figured out for auctionbot and bring it in here.