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asciilifeform: and the 'doctor, it hurts when i do that! --- so stop doing that!' option is NOT available, as bitcoin's protocol mandates a 'compactsize' variable-bitness integer idiocy that maxes out at unsigned 64bit. ( see http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/serialize.h?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0192 ) .
asciilifeform: this is not as simple as 'gcc suxxxxx, let's fix gcc'. because i have nfi what The Right Thing looks like here.
asciilifeform: this is, as i see it, a philosophical problem, and i post it here for that reason.
asciilifeform: as per ada standard, in order to have a constrained type (e.g., type foo is range 0 .. 10; ) the compiler must find a X such that X is representable on the machine as a fixint, and range of X is larger than asked-for range
mircea_popescu: Framedragger was planning to use it as a snide "you're leaking ip" for noobs' benefit
scriba: ssh banner of 71.232.150.212 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.0p1 Debian-4+deb7u2
scriba: ssh banner of 85.125.140.228 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
ben_vulpes: near as i ever figured out, some heinous mishmash of "totally not localstorage" and "mongo" "in the cloud"
mircea_popescu: there's a "ukraina" which does ~same as the "us army" does, ie steiner angriffs every other day.
mircea_popescu: there's also a band which thinks it's tmsr ; and other such things. there is, as previously mentioned, a small island thinks itself "the republic of china".
trinque: we could implement the stuff ircbot actually uses in cl-irc as one macro, a socket, and a ping/pong loop
asciilifeform: 'A decentralized network system fully-utilizing Blockchain in every aspect, aims at solving current difficulties faced by key cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin and Ethereum, preventing from frauds and money-laundering, ID management and being a mediator with taxing/administrative system in various countries. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: then walter_ is gonna ask me about standards, apparently on the basis of his impression that such a thing as standards can even exist without l1 signing off.
mircea_popescu: they're gonna say it as if it's fact ; on the basis of the hordes of idiots they spawned not being capable of distinguishing fact from writ from fiction. if it catches on good ; if not the "democrat" socialist horde has no memory anyway, so they'll be right there next week importantly sprouting a novel ream of nonsense. as if it were fact ; as if they mattered.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 01:12 mircea_popescu: they're on a different domain, as per wordpress idiocy. and wget is apparently written by imbeciles.
walter_: but not as good ofc
walter_: I'm afraid I cannot patch a PHP website. I can only suggest that it gains the ability to respond Last-Modified, perhaps at the cost of removing the dynamic section (should be fine as a separate page)
asciilifeform idly wonders if at the end of this experiment he will end up with physically ~same box as what mircea_popescu made.
mircea_popescu: then you only need hole as big as the fiber.
asciilifeform: better imho to use standard fiber and screw jacks, as seen in linked item.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-30 16:43 gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I'm not designing an atomic dirigible. I'm catching up on all the learning I've forsaken over the past four years to build Masamune. Yes, the eventual goal is to make a lispm, but it isn't as if I'm skipping meals to do CPU design.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: actually i somehow assumed that you wanted the metalens so as to enable chip microphotography in kitchen conditions
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I'm not designing an atomic dirigible. I'm catching up on all the learning I've forsaken over the past four years to build Masamune. Yes, the eventual goal is to make a lispm, but it isn't as if I'm skipping meals to do CPU design. ☟︎
asciilifeform: consider the difficulty of getting thinking folx to so much as consider al schwartz's parity violator.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: you can test this with bare hands. a metamaterial for long waves is also known as... ordinary waveguide. chandra bose made these in 1890s!
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I was not. And presently have no ideas as to how this would be done in jungle conditions.
mircea_popescu: they have all the self-determination of the average ferret : if you keep hens in a henhouse it will try and sometimes succeed to get in and suck blood off a few of them. that's it and that's all. there's no ferret poetry, no ferret philosophy, no ferret tools even. exactly like in the case of any orcs, if you see them wearing armor or wielding actual weapons as opposed to "random shit they found in their immediate surrounding
mircea_popescu: so then, this exact idiocy repeats itself time and again. 1. usg.apple tells ustards to use $item-which-sets-all-passwords-as-p-independent-of-user-input ; 2. ustards do. 3. republic owns them, and puts them to whatever use more adequate to their tard genes, such as fap fodder, lulzcow, whatever. 4. the usg comes up with a color of your bits "goes without saying".
mircea_popescu: then the republic owned the usg.apple platform known as "the cloud" and published her naked ass. and the ustards, to quote, "https://archive.is/0E16N Even if it is her and something gets leaked let's give her and everyone listed the respect to their privacy. Though on this subreddit I'm sure it goes without saying." https://archive.is/0E16N#selection-1687.1-1701.166
mircea_popescu: but, be that as it may, overflows are actually republic/other fiats speciality. it's how the usg gets owned in general.
mircea_popescu: the above being the ENTIRETY of "usg cyberwarfare capacity" by the way. that it got idiots (schneier, koch, weimer etc), to write software that sets p as password everywhere independent of user input and then ten million imbecile lusers to use that "because it's what everyone does" where everyone is so defined to exclude everyone sane.
adlai: ben_vulpes: literally nothing: "If a defpackage form appears as a top level form, all of the actions normally performed by this macro at load time must also be performed at compile time."
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as derpy slum-dwellers with delusions of participation and importance believe it does, more power to 'em.
asciilifeform: in so far as 1) activist-judge is still a judge, and mr.t's dhs 'announced that it will obey judicial orders' and 2) the rapefugees were let out of the airport and happily on their way to $destination -- it works.
asciilifeform: as is typical.
ben_vulpes: http://www.thelocal.at/20170128/hotel-ransomed-by-hackers-as-guests-locked-in-rooms
mod6: I need to get the ball rolling for something like that with TRB as well.
mod6: as far as testing, it can not be understated how important the automated tests were for V to ensure that regressions did not happen. would be great to eventually have a framework build up for eulora so that functional and unit testing could be inplace the same way.
mod6: Yeah, no idea what they might have as far as game down in that region. Aside from like snakes. That's what I think of. Snakes.
mircea_popescu: mod6 well if you mean north as in "past artic circle" then i mean south as in "past tropics"
mod6: I suppose there are alyways things to hunt. Just not quite as large of game maybe? Although in the south east, they love, for instance, alligator.
mircea_popescu: maybe in another life you come as the caribou!
mod6: I was watching this recent show about this part of alaska that's now been deemed only for wild-life. It's this huge area in the artic circle. Some people still live there though, as they were granfathered in.
mircea_popescu: not really same thing as pig
mod6: I'm starting a huge testing phase as we speak. I thought it was worth the effort to /try/ get it working for others.
Reuel: oh yeah I read that before but had no practical use for it as yet, liked it though
asciilifeform: in other wtf, old mobo comes back to life just as i readied to hoist replacement into place.
pete_dushenski: apologies also for the delayed responses. as ^^ points out, i was away and pretty, pretty, pretty unplugged.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: except trump's caddy to be every bit as brash. and are the amerikans still claiming a growing economy ? really ?
mircea_popescu: this is not exactly true. the raising of nazi submarines is +ev for nation-state ; as shown once ru sub sinks.
asciilifeform: imho it may or may not make sense to make a tool just for trb. just as raising most ww2 sunken submarines is not +ev, only the ones full of nazi gold.
asciilifeform: and the problem becomes ~tractable~ -- as many do -- when you know which guaranteed non-solutions to discard, e.g., per thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-02#1222081 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and if it doesn't, that's both interesting and you're already building standing as you say.
Reuel: this is then partly hardware related as well then?
mircea_popescu: well, there's various actually useful projects waiting for a hand. such as for instance http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-22#1588182 ☝︎
Reuel: my main goal here was to make a bot as to get involved a bit
Reuel: in the simple case of my game, it would be, at the bottom, the same as action movies for a large part of the population, power fantasies
mircea_popescu: how can you make an evaluation as to what people'd do ?
Reuel: I would say this would greatly increase complexity, as well as the cost of mistakes in the implementation.
Reuel: mircea_popescu, diana_coman, re: your criticisms, I would say that, at the higher level, there is a choice in target audience, people who live democracy as implemented in the west and agree with it will find no trouble wasting time on a game like this, since it mimics familiar mechanisms (even if broken). In this particular channel, probably not enough ppl would be interested.
BingoBoingo: Well not an auth so much as a challenge/response
deedbot: 2DE76FFD304CC7554792C06003D9B08C7502B214 registered as simonpenner.
ben_vulpes: goals are twofold: prevent further paint degradation and as much rust as possible now that the skin is broken
deedbot: 4E7BB257827A825BA79D6602796CD48828DD895A registered as Reuel.
asciilifeform: '...the nature and seriousness of the danger to any person in the community that will be posed by the release, it's clear that the Government sort of paints the Defendant as a walking encyclopedia of classified information. I don't know if that's completely correct, but I do know that he had access to all of this information, and I credit him, and I certainly am glad we're not sitting here talking
mircea_popescu: "respected" "trusted". why ? "because we say so" "but you only say so so as to have said so" "exactly"
Reuel: In the end art is to make people feel, some art makes sophisticated people feel sophisticated things, some art makes simple people feel simple things, and I guess as a starting artist, Im not that picky yet
diana_coman: as to the trouble there: it's more than a concern - it invalidates your "test"
mircea_popescu: how's "let's fuck the gameserver" as a promise ?
diana_coman: fwiw it sounds to me that Reuel precisely wants to implement the planning committee possibly as a fantasy where he thinks he can *make* it work
asciilifeform: as alluded to earlier, speed of light forces you to have localized bitcoin nets. can easily make'em hierarchical.
asciilifeform: instead of leaving it as something for people to discover when it is too late and they are already packed like sardines.
asciilifeform: want to dispute the hypothesis as stated ?
asciilifeform: but facts such as 'no one is making more Actual Computer nor is anyone likely to in next century' add up to this picture imho.
asciilifeform: i see btc as 'strategic' machine, closer to tonnes-of-au, or hydrogen bomb, or icbm sub, than to something 'to buy coffee with'.
asciilifeform: as for 'growth', i have extreme difficulty picturing the number of users of bitcoin who have by any conceivable stretch of the imagination ~actual business using it~ going up, rather than down
asciilifeform: bitcoin as known today won't work on galactic scale, tho
mircea_popescu: look, the problem is that as the empire grows, the army food supply goes from bushels to millions of bushels. "restrict legionnaire rations" is not a solution.
asciilifeform: (as in the node-miner conflict, described by mircea_popescu , for instance)
ben_vulpes: nah, but carrying 27+lbs of kid plus groceries while i stare at the sky and contemplate nozzles that impart rotational inertia to the flugenbody is not time efficient; i can just as easily design while hefting bairns
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes. you are asking yourself to come up with a number which will be larger than the largest number of nested comments people may wish to make. if you're going to think like this might as well become a c++ specialist.
mircea_popescu: yes, as a follow the motions thing.
asciilifeform: for instance, as chronicled here, asciilifeform's sweat to find new flat
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: perhaps under explained in "if you accept the thesis" where <thesis> is entire stack of usgola. yes, 401kholder seeks to eat cheese, turn around put money into house do all the clever tricks with it. also many don't! and many like myself look at the whole thing as a stupid intellectual complexity trap not worth entertaining.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i'm not proposing your life choices are invalid. i am saying the form of the argument is broken. it's easy to pretend like you know better than fish while not being fish. in point of fact fish does as best he can
ben_vulpes: "being of sound mind and body, i'm spending my money as fast as i can"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it remains every bit as chumpatronic even if employer matches 1000%
mircea_popescu: the more time people spend ~actually reading~ the same piece of code, the better. "i might have read it so it's as good as read" open source bs doesn't qualify here.
mircea_popescu: i think you book it as a loss, but it is a gain.
mircea_popescu: there is some merit to this view. not as much as you imagine though. gavin was there, in 2012, and giving "talks" to the nsa, in 2011, and wondering out loud if that's certainly not why satoshi stopped talking to him.
asciilifeform: and if abandoning this -- may as well replace whole shebang.
asciilifeform: my objection is not 'davout Broke Trb oh noez!!' but to the thought process that might lead an otherwise literate d00d to contemplate a 'reference' that lacks vital organs as a valid thing
asciilifeform: burn down your house ~deliberately~, if you must, not by playing with matches as 3 y.o.
ben_vulpes: highly prehensile, or prezhensile as the tenderqueers would say
mircea_popescu: "signatures" has as much business being part of bitcoin as sink has being part of car.
asciilifeform: in my extensive practice as an absolute nobody -- i also did not. but supposed that someone -- could.
mircea_popescu: in my extensive practice as a major economic agent i never either wanted to or did bother to verify one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is impractical to make as drawn here.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as gedankenexperiment, imagine if we went 'primes above 1000^10000 are now coins'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: same as now.