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mircea_popescu: you don't ship fg with it, and so don't ship other things with it either.
mircea_popescu: "i don;t understant the mechanisms YET, give me a worktable. with clearly known knobsw on it."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform trolls don't care about how you feel, alfie. just how you sound.
asciilifeform doesn't particularly need a db in overflowlang or gcpauselang for anything. but perhaps somebody else does...
mircea_popescu: if the dood bangs out tmsr-db within the next coupla weeks, which fwis isn't exactly inconceivable, is anyone interesrted in making mp-wp switch from mysql/etc to it ?
sina: I don't want to carve the stone first time
phf: sina: i actually checked, and fwiw guix doesn't let you build emacs without dbus dependency. (in fact none of the odds and ends like svg, xml or alsa can be disabled without patching the package definition file)
mircea_popescu: sina go make a drop-in flatfile db replacement, so people can drop it in right now. there's a market, such as people who aren't happy mp-wp pulls in mysql.
sina: most "something elses" don't meet my "seemed interesting" criteria
sina: as it currently sits with deedbot, I currently don't, but can, run my irc connection on compartmented box away from gpg
mircea_popescu: so you don't have a proper irc client then. see ? i said irc CLIENT. protocol can stay, i see no prob there
sina: literally told me you don't believe in time!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aren;t you proud ? but well done, there's nothing more fulfilling than for man to achieve goal he sets for himself.
sina: y'all don't have nothin'
mircea_popescu: we don't have weeks on this planet.
mircea_popescu: death of the author, bish. he can't say anything, fanfic has established the epileptic trees!
mircea_popescu: and plox don't tell me "it's because your instruments are dirty, in factr apple could buy russia", as these discussions usually tend to go.
mircea_popescu: this should be enough to illustrate why exactly the linked piece is yet another paradoxing trisection. though dudley would predict it won't work.
mircea_popescu: t to "come up with their own reasons" as to whether they're studying basic arithmetics or not ; i DO permit them autonomy in the sense that if they bring me a dead body i'll get rid of it rather than you know, "report it to the police".
mircea_popescu: EIC https://anarplex.net/hosted/files/secondrealm/blog_post.html << the obvious objections being that formally this reads just like yet another ustarded neoprotestant "i heard there's a world yesterday and here's how to fix it" tract, as so many before starting with abolitionism and aparently never endingly ; and fundamentally that "autonomy" is utterly naive. i do not permit autonomy my slavegirls, in the sense they don't ge
mircea_popescu: it has a box, i didn't check it
mircea_popescu: EIC well, can't connect. i dunno, tell them if anyone cares and let me know when they get around to fixing it ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:41 asciilifeform: you can't actually write a nontrivial c proggy without undefined behaviour.
mircea_popescu: tion (or website) and you can't do it because that feature isn't implemented -- how is that any different than not being able to do something due to an error message?"
mircea_popescu: (the butt of this joke being "but listen, 8086 didn't have mice yet!" "nor bugs.")
trinque knows a bright young man who didn't say much until about 5yrs old; when he got old enough to judge his surroundings, blood rage.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-27 18:59 mircea_popescu: inb4 us medical profession wakes up to the sad fact that the raise in autism has nothing to do with ~organic~ causes. the kids just don't like the environment any, opt out.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-07#1680033 << btw this brought back to mind http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-27#1648764, in that usglandia snuffs by way of environmental catastrophe folks who don't like the smell of complicacy. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: 'jcomeauictx wrote: getting started. sponsor: do you know that Bountysource hasn't been paying out escrowed funds to coders for several weeks now? I'm putting this on hold until I hear from Rappo about this. [2017-06-21T21:35:27PDT got my funds a few minutes ago. front burner again.]'
gabriel_laddel_p: Odd. b/c my resucecd won't work unless using 32 bit kernel.
asciilifeform: didn't mircea_popescu have an article re greece, where, 'if idiot throws money into a toilet, he is doubly idiotic for expecting to see it again' or how did it go.
asciilifeform: moar than 80 % if you count the children they ain't having
BingoBoingo: Part of pantsuit voter's induction to voting pantisuit is the infection with belief they CAN'T be made to do anything.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> at least the argentards had this in their press, back in 2014, editorials and shit about how "the international neocapitalists" try to make them work moar and waste less, and how THEY ARE ORGANIZED AND WILL RESIST!!1 << Prolly wouldn't make it past typical US head plugs
mircea_popescu: mod6 i think the matter is more, 3rd world understands it is shit, looks up to eu, us, whatever. small brother syndrome. whereas us misperceives itself as civilised, which it isn't nor ever was, and top of teh pile, so couldn't possibly be anyhone to look up to (except of course france, but we dun like to talk about that, liberty fries ha-ha!)
mircea_popescu: in any case - i can't calculate drag from human body either, nor can anyone else. there's a reason for both http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-19#567906 and wind tunnels irl : it's a measured, not calculated. ☝︎
erlehmann: but i can't really put it together
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 16:30 phf: building wot for all comers will suffer the same fate as pgp. since nobody's using it, it turns into an arms race of easy to use, or "innovation" also known as masturbation over technical minutiae. i sort of realized this when i tried applying tmsr solutions to my cypherpunk friends: "no we don't need to research the difference between signal and telegram, just encrypt it to my gpg key and post it on dpaste or whatever." eliminated all the technical di
mircea_popescu: doesn't have to call it quits on calling it quits. just on calling it quits right then and there.
mircea_popescu: except... they don't.
mircea_popescu: few a year isn't much of a frequency
a111: Logged on 2017-07-01 15:38 mircea_popescu: yet these "measures of all things" exemplars of pure humanity, that honestly believe their heads are capable of any lifting, if they "just had the facts" hurr durr lol lol snort, nevertheless can't see far enough ahead to realise they're "leaderless" because their leaders are out and out bullshit, and for no other reason.
mircea_popescu: apparently "don't step in front of subway, you will die" is a lot less comprehesible to 8 yo japanese girl than "if i end up having to pay a fine for it I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU!"
erlehmann: asciilifeform crypto cranks need no proofs. take https://keybase.io/triplesec/ – money quote: “We don't have any exact proof of security for a cascade of block ciphers in CTR mode. But we're pretty sure”
asciilifeform: interestingly we aren't (yet!!) awash in attempted proofs of 'rsa is hard'
mircea_popescu: anyway. his bad for inserting a conjecture among actually known shit. there's a difference between "we don't know if rsa is hard" and "we know you can't compress all files"
asciilifeform: actual practitioners don't send unsolicited 'elementary proof of 1000yr problem '
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't per se dispute the piece can be rescued with liberal application of benevolent reading balm. i just don't seem inclined.
asciilifeform: wiles, see, 'doesn't count' because 'too long and uses things not taught in kindergarten and wtf is this' ☟︎
asciilifeform: still won't save the receiver from.
mircea_popescu: cuz you know, dollars don't lack a central authority. somehow. because if we lalalala really hard pantsuit hilarity losing the elections didn't happen and totally the fed is in control of shit.
phf: no worries, just didn't know if you knew
shinohai: Yeah phf ....it's the heathen google plugin that came with gribble. I haven't bothered to fix, sorry, since I have a rewrite in the worx
mircea_popescu: much lower "perceived spoiliage value", however. and this because indians aren't worth jack shit in a fight ; whreas rosas kinda scared them
mircea_popescu: that it wasn't is principally due to the germans being congenitally retarded, and no moar.
mircea_popescu: you can't fucking reference the original, 1200 tmsr as "disunified italy" wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: also, "tmsr style" may be a misnomer. the republic receiving tax from the lords voluntarily is one thing, but there's nowehre in statute or custom where it says lord can't grind into paste any subhuman peons it gets his hands on, to extract whatever he extracts.
asciilifeform: as for whiskey rebellion -- that's when usg first switched to collecting tax forcibly, vs tmsr-style. buncha 'uppity' folx didn't 'get the memo', hanged a few tax collectors, massacred.
mircea_popescu: hamilton wasn't doping centralized megastate either. it's unclear what washington wass doing, as also not idea man, but probably ALSO not megastate judging by how if he were, he'd have been the king of united states literally.
asciilifeform: but more notable for what he ~wasn't~ doing
asciilifeform: j wasn't an 'idea man', no
mircea_popescu: i don't really see it. jefferson, for all his popularity, was intellectually ~nil.
asciilifeform: 'You can't escape this garbage, even in the pages of respectable math journals. There are no safe spaces. We are doomed.'
mircea_popescu: in other words -- us schools don't work on purpose, not by accident. and like those, everything else, nukes, embargoes, name it.
mod6: i didn't sleep a wink last night.
mircea_popescu: ah it wasn't the power, i have it set to disconnect at six in the morning deliberately.
asciilifeform: many, many years ago, asciilifeform wrote a ( and won't claim to be the only one who had this simple idea ) thing for evading censorware, that'd encipher a blob ( aes, iirc ) and package all but N bits of the key with the compressed ciphertext
asciilifeform: 'can't be used' is a flexible concept...
mircea_popescu: you want to make things that can't be used ?
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> because turnstiles are racist or i don't even know what led to the system designed such that anyone can just wander onto the trains << St Louis trains are like this, finally hit critical mass because "only white man pays" has turned train into war zone
ben_vulpes: it is though, obvious transit welfare for the homeless. "no i don't have id, no i don't have a place of residence, good luck getting the fine out of me"
mircea_popescu: he can't ride every day the truck parking at pdx statioons sucks
ben_vulpes: because turnstiles are racist or i don't even know what led to the system designed such that anyone can just wander onto the trains
ben_vulpes: "sorry for the inconvenience sir, you have a good day now. you know they keep saying there's a patch coming that'll improve battery life for these things, but i haven't seen it yet." "heh yeah and i don't beliueve that it'll work."
ben_vulpes: in shitantium lols, i submitted my nfc train fare card for inspection this am. portoscanner a: couldn't read through the leater of my wallet, b: came out of the fare inspector's pocket hung, c: unhung only to die for lack of batteries.
asciilifeform: ( found -- possibly -- the thread, though it wasn't re proglangs : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-28#1620042 ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: which is a good chunk of why mp doesn't idle in a buncha chans
asciilifeform: it isn't clear to me that these can be cut
mircea_popescu: i don't mean the, give poor kids a free delousing and glasses part of no kid left behind. i mean the make smart kids dumber part.
mircea_popescu: because yes, someone certainly oughta and i couldn't in good conscience tell someone to go do it.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-05 16:26 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here';s the thing : i didn't get that impression from what you were saying. and the substance of a scam is when the reader doesn't get that impression from the copy.
asciilifeform: dunno how we ended up discussion 'prohibitions' -- asciilifeform hasn't the power or desire to confiscate d00d's keyboard for churning out whatever liquishit.
mircea_popescu: i don't, because it's meaningless as such. but fulfillment is a long way
trinque: in order to have the human machine operate in self-sorting mode, can't have blanket prohibitions, or as mp said http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-11#1641810 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you can't save another.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, there's really no way to run for oneself. take jurov for instance : years later he's still struggling to come to terms with the specific portions of socialism he can't let go of. if people end up taking teh bait and going to bury themselv es ion google for the rest of their life, what exactly was lost ?
asciilifeform: brothels ain't an organized effort to take a massive shit in my fits-in-headization of the comp.
mircea_popescu: i don't imagien you're picketing brothels.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 03:04 mircea_popescu: tis true. bigots = fixated people with beards you couldn't convince of your reasonable position, such as "the rabid dog doesn't bite" on the grounds of it not having bit yet, or "marrying your first cousin is fine" on the basis of hey, cunt that doesn't scare me!
trinque: I think that's the distinction between youth and wisdom, and youth is *meant* to go try to die, and see if it doesn't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you could never everr, no matter what, go into their harappan little huts and lift the beaded clothes to find harappan cunt, and then explain to your host, "well, it's ok for a coupla hours i guess, but i wouldn't live here. BECAUSE..."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here';s the thing : i didn't get that impression from what you were saying. and the substance of a scam is when the reader doesn't get that impression from the copy. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-19 15:31 mircea_popescu: anyway, Framedragger golang is not liked here because we don't own it, and we don't like usg.google more than we like usg.anything, and because it seems quite well engineered to work as a baited hook for the usg chump works.
mircea_popescu: one needn't fear the smell of cunt in his room.
asciilifeform: and in fact doesn't need 'thousand man years to fix the mismatches' because it HAS no mismatches with the iron.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from experience men don't care about debilitating disease, just dun like the whinery.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the problem is that shooting the jane fonda doesn't cure the syphilis and hiv.
asciilifeform: again , it ain't about crud languages. it is about systems, and people. if, e.g., sina, wants to ADOPT golang, and maintain it, such that nothing that happens in tmsr is EVER subject to the whims of genderfuckers at google hq -- no python3isms, no 'language is evolving', no 'you need gcc7 to build this', no 'we no longer support ppc and 386, fuckyou' -- then it can be considered
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> sina i confess i don't get it. free mattress ? << disease vector metaphor
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can't keep a list of verboten camel noses.