asciilifeform: say van picks'em up. this gives us no useful 'smoking gun' beyond 'sorry chaps, they all sold out last night. no, can't tell ya who bought'

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: but let's address the van.

asciilifeform: the nonsense on reddit does nothing - granted

asciilifeform: but as i understand, it resolves to 'they have lost the mandate of heaven, will be defeated eventually'

asciilifeform: it almost begins to

asciilifeform prepared

asciilifeform: if tomorrow a white van picks up the remaining 5000 (?) pogos, how do 'we win' ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i must confess that it is rather unclear to me where the detriment is coming from.

asciilifeform: and they will have every living thing that reads reddit convinced that they invented it, too.

asciilifeform: yes, they could.

asciilifeform: "you mean to tell me we could use these to run bitcoin nodes ourselves ?!?!... << they easily could. not with the 20MB blocks, no, but with the 20MB (and whatever the hell else satanic strange) -enabled- and waiting to get flooded

asciilifeform: i mean, sachs thinks they're part of the same chumpatron, yes

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cables << what do those have to do with snowden ?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha. hence telnet without any authentication at all.

asciilifeform: drops straight into root shell...

asciilifeform: to try it, spin it up, then see what ip the box got, then telnet there

asciilifeform: it wastes ram

asciilifeform: (this is -not- what we want in the field ver.)

asciilifeform: this is why i built it that way

asciilifeform: nubbins`: because has baked in rootfs

asciilifeform: nubbins`: it ought to run from anywhere

asciilifeform: danielpbarron perhaps can try

asciilifeform: nubbins`: gotcha

asciilifeform: doesn't go down ? or 'can be proven not to fandango over arbitrary ram with magic packet incoming'

asciilifeform: 'good' means what ?

asciilifeform first paying reverse-engineering job was of a wifi chipset

asciilifeform: actually this is pretty easy

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has the right idea.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: if we must have the radio, let's ad-hoc to neighbors

asciilifeform: it was the single cheapest such box that i was able to locate

asciilifeform: (part of cpu)

asciilifeform: and can't be killed

asciilifeform: wireless soldered in though

asciilifeform: 100M/s ethernet, usb2 for storage, powered by yet another usb jack

asciilifeform: and there are at least 3 chinese clones, roughly similar.

asciilifeform: but actively produced

asciilifeform: costs approx. same as pogo, for much poorer specs

asciilifeform: with serial port soldered in

asciilifeform: i have one here

asciilifeform: http://www.hootoo.com/hootoo-tripmate-nano-ht-tm02-wireless-portable-router.html

asciilifeform: tripmate comes with 32M ram

asciilifeform: --- and after we kill the orphans thing

asciilifeform: !s hootoo

asciilifeform: !s tripmate

asciilifeform: and i can do a 'tripmate' port

asciilifeform: unrelated: if we can get bitcoind under 27M, whole orchestra fits into the 32M eeprom found in the 'tripmate'

asciilifeform: these are 'noncontroversial' ?

asciilifeform: makes specific claims re: who/why of snowden, for instance

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usg appears to have a very strict 'do not engage mircea_popescu on open terrain' rule

asciilifeform: aha ... ?

asciilifeform makes no claim of 'the world' except as 'world he is able to access'

asciilifeform and of steel

asciilifeform owns some furniture of actual wood, university surplus

asciilifeform: try 80

asciilifeform: (of thinking and other kinds)

asciilifeform: in the houses of elderly.

asciilifeform: where in usa, outside of antique shop, do you find anything else.

asciilifeform: solid pressboard.

asciilifeform: ah meant pressboard

asciilifeform: prefab ?

asciilifeform: 100% solid believers in the fishwrap XOR reddit everywhere i've physically set foot in usa.

asciilifeform: other than #b-a, i mean

asciilifeform: i would like to visit such a place

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: uncontroversial << in #b-a. where else ?

asciilifeform: anybody try 'turdel_with_telnet' ?

asciilifeform: brb meatspace excursion

asciilifeform: to sink into the sea

asciilifeform: minus however many usg buys now that we said this.

asciilifeform: once deployed

asciilifeform: that is, how many will actually reach good home

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if parachuting, must take into account yield

asciilifeform: not yet sata, though i am still unable to figure out why (CONFIG_SATA_MV is set)

asciilifeform: it is able to use usb storage and sd

asciilifeform: (see earlier)

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, punkman, nubbins`, anyone else with a non-serialport pogov4 - new kernel that you can try.

asciilifeform: did paste in some of the highlights.

asciilifeform: i'd squeeze them out myself, but no time at present

asciilifeform: anyway, document in question is a piece of nuttery containing, if you put it through a juice extractor, some very sensible hypotheses

asciilifeform: and word 'police' here meant very loosely

asciilifeform: 'police report at' == 'report written to police'

asciilifeform: sachs

asciilifeform: nono

asciilifeform: written by himself

asciilifeform: he meant 'report to police'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was just about to!

asciilifeform: of bitcoind, for example.

asciilifeform: still no sata support - but this is enough to begin testing

asciilifeform: this turdel will 1) boot and dhcp 2) start a suicidal telnet that goes straight into a root shell

asciilifeform: achtung, panzers!

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdel_with_telnet.gz

asciilifeform: 084ace0c578a4920a4cad59e426165b180fd8b1e170e9da406772bf1546208abc63d8b101fa63b9152d2003a816b4309203bbd391e434302830a3de3eab2dddc turdel_with_telnet.gz

asciilifeform: still think 'usg as high-tech north kr is impossible', ?

asciilifeform: one to break doors, gates; one to threaten bystanders, if any, with 'accidental' fire; one to shoot; and perhaps one with a cage that arrestee -might- be permitted to surrender into, if the bot's voice-recognition system works and if orders included a possible live capture ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: that is, heavily-armoured box shows up with puppeteer, who controls (via radio or fiber) several deathbots ☟︎

asciilifeform: expect this kind of policing to become sop ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'The informant said he had known Hagler for more than 30 years. Hagler had a seething hatred for his ex-wife and was becoming more agitated after events in Ferguson and because he believed he would lose his homes in St. Louis for not paying taxes, according to court documents. A second informant said the tone of his views against government....'

asciilifeform: looks similar, but not quite same, yes

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu guess what usg's response to 'solzhenitsyn's axe' is, aha.