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erlehmann: asciilifeform i had such an experience in a group as well
asciilifeform: i mean literally. as in , as erlehmann described.
asciilifeform: printolade has this effect, where idiots are awash in >subsistence moneys. prick'em and they bleed it -- like ground once gushed with delicious petro without so much as proper drilling in 19th c
asciilifeform: 'we will carry on as obscenely obese, impudent swine who have never seen the knife!'
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the fact that the great-grandfathers ofd today's "free" maryland blacks had it way the fuck better as slaves is somehow un-known to "scholarship". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the mothers of the current crop of useless cunts with delusions of journalism were just as their daughters, importantly neighing about "obviously" and "everyone knows" bullshit they couldn't spell.
mircea_popescu: yes but as late as the 80s they were pretending they know better.
asciilifeform: ( d00d was last seen working as dish washer )
phillipsjk: wizard as in wise person yes. Last estimate I saw said about 160 people are do the work world-wide (mainly for the US military). (they want to know war-only weapon modes will actually work as intended)
asciilifeform: and is as it should be.
mircea_popescu: well, just as soon as you can be specific re that fragility, i'm, all ears.
phillipsjk: Presumably transactions with many outputs are more efficient than dual input/output transactions. They may be able to eliminate an arbitrary number of round trips through their hot wallet as well.
asciilifeform: but can still write ~as if for~ rom.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. disk can be a tele-operated item in exactly same way as nic. )
mircea_popescu: there's also the "bunch of retards who think themselves competent and will wish to '''help'''" as per older threads re flies.
asciilifeform: in other 3-years-and-continuing lulz, https://archive.is/kGc6w >> '...I've been trying to build these style tools for around 10 years, on and off, and they have never built correctly for these targets and any attempt to put in a bug report about it is a waste of time as someone comes along states it works and closes it, even though it doesn't.'
scriba: ssh banner of 94.156.19.254 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1
asciilifeform: keyboardization gives even greater 'nonspecificity of diddling', at the cost of 'can't have it plugged in 24/7, must use in bursts' ( as most os don't work with >1 kbd correctly )
asciilifeform: ( incidentally astute students of FUCKGOATSology will notice that the principle is applied INSIDE the device as well - FG has nfi what is plugged into rng jacks, actual analogue rng boards or tester jig )
asciilifeform: but that the ~correct~ move is proggy that takes a /dev/foo1,/dev/foo2... as command line params and eats rng from ~there~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc we had a thread even here where somebody whined that FG doesn't work as a 'totem' where you 'plug in and forget and it just becomes your /dev/random' and that it has to be actively ~used~ ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> might as well ask the kfc colonel his professional opinion re fort sumter. << "Lincoln was a war criminal" is the response I got
mircea_popescu: the ur-model of this is "modern" ourdemocracy currency. while they can falsify it, YOU can't. this means they can prop its value up for as long as it takes for idiot-you to buy into the theory that "usd is actually valuable", after which they can turn on the printing.
mircea_popescu: might as well ask the kfc colonel his professional opinion re fort sumter.
shinohai: !~later tell pete_dushenski Tested your patch, built fine, running on the dev box as I write this.
mircea_popescu: in case anyone still wanted indicia as to where the fish rotten from. it was the fucking "law enforcement".
shinohai: ikr? I saw that item yesterday but didn't seem Qntrable to me as the "scam" appeared to be related to the Ethereum network self-DDoS.
BingoBoingo: Many times there were beggars, many times I was drunk. It is a miracle I remember as much as I do.
asciilifeform: 'When a terrorist group such as the Irgun Zvai Leumi sees their key objective completed, what do they do? In the case of their use of terrorism, the Irgun came to an end not because the funds died out or support waned, but because the leadership recognized the need to move to a more democratic and non-violent strategy. In order to continue pushing for additional change, no longer would the Irgun act under overt auspices of violence.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ 'altalena affair' resulted in the switcheroo where the upstanding folx ( irgun et al, who held the position 'rm -rf britain' , were replaced by the internationalkomyooniti obedient muppet circus who ended up 'recognized' by said komyooniti as 'israel' << Aka. When da jooz jew'd the Jay-double-Oh-Oh-Zee
asciilifeform: ^ 'altalena affair' resulted in the switcheroo where the upstanding folx ( irgun et al, who held the position 'rm -rf britain' , were replaced by the internationalkomyooniti obedient muppet circus who ended up 'recognized' by said komyooniti as 'israel' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: absolutely depicting the obese as human, showing supposed "affection" etcetera should be a felony.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669131 << it's a thorny bush, but i'm with alf : as long as the TEXT reads historically accurate, where the text links can be up to your implementation. person doesn't like where you direct the links, the historicval original is one copy/paste op away. ☝︎
phf: ben_vulpes: could you possibly add timestamp (hh:mm:ss, say) to your div.line's. maybe as data-ts="..." or perhaps as a div.nick title?
mircea_popescu: then winter fucking came, and there they sat under the snow, green and preppy as everything. and i was googling for home version flamethrowers, for you know, insurance just in case like.
mircea_popescu: just as long as you dun lose you know, your actual key.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's part of what the publisher will accept as art assets, see ?
asciilifeform: btw the graphics , as seen by asciilifeform's naked eye, suggest that a cpu-only renderer ( 0 magic iron ) could, in theory, run eulora
asciilifeform: naggum had an interesting discussion re cl ( and iirc also mentioned ada, his other-language ) in re discouragement of 'easy to write small throwaway programs' as a factor in building durable infrastructure ( vs liquishit, which in his time consisted of microshit and of perlism )
asciilifeform: their attempts are a laugh, though -- their picture of 'sexy project' is about as appealing as syphilis
mircea_popescu dislikes the notion of guilt tripping people as a resource allocation mechanism.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly as phf describes, there's a certain drag/lift factor in work being done. have you noticed how effort allocation tends to follow "what's happening" more than "i've though about this" ?
BingoBoingo: Moldbug presented as stale cubile rage vessel
mircea_popescu: "nobody reads" trilema, such as eg "not smart enough to sling dope" article. but EVERYONE EXECUTES it.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it is an almost 'african' pattern, 'at one time my grandfather walked on a bridge, i heard... i'ma call meself Bob Bridgebuilder' etc << AHA, marlinspike presented as "hippie recreational sailor"
mircea_popescu: aww, just as i was sitting down to read the man's twitter, turns out it is "protected". scam!
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:47 asciilifeform: in such a way as to judas goat the authors of said code to rewrite it such that it DEMANDS the new 'improved' compiler.
mircea_popescu thinks this is exactly as it should be.
shinohai: I've taken a twitter break. It's kind of an unfriendly environment for purveyors of posterior such as myself.
sina: mircea_popescu: I did look at V as you suggested, including reading through (I think it was) asciilifeform py impl
ben_vulpes: sina: i hope you appreciate the bug-spottment as well lol
a111: Logged on 2016-03-23 23:35 mircea_popescu: 2 requires the man who just saw the product of his not-inconsequential efforts die over "not doing what mp says, with money" have to choose whether to do what mp says... but with people, this time. we did in fact start this channel together, just like bitbet, and he did do a lot of infrastructure work here, just as there. so... what do ?
jhvh1: 12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
trinque not trying to pile on, but "I can stuff at scale" is entertaining as shit
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: what, "european by alliance" cars nao ? << well, ghosn stepped down as nissan ceo so whatever bridge there was is burnt. now it's turbomowereich because nothing cheats nazi emissions standards quite like 'em.
mircea_popescu: except nanotube never actually fixed gribble, for whatever reason (such as for instance - because it wasn't erroneously broken but deliberately broken)
trinque: meanwhile sina, you get to discover whether there are such folks in the world as can maintain a db of numbers without diddling them... to think!
mircea_popescu: thyis is a fractally repeating point : the reason "social learning" as modelled by redditards doesn't work irl is the indirection layer. the reason gossipd is undefeatable in practice is... the indirection layer.
sina: I think I asked you this long ago, but you keep a local copy of the WoT and expect others to as well right?
mircea_popescu: the fundamental flaw in your earlier mental process, which is periodically discussed in the logs, is that you try to take trust as an objective. trust isn't an objective, the reason i trust you is because I TRUST YOU, not because deedbot says i do. and the ONLY use of the knowledge that i trust you is that you can ask me about you. nothing else.
sina: um...as in, the logical topology of the WoT is a ...web... but to join the web you enter via a tree structure where the root is master, and all other nodes are slaves
BingoBoingo: Retailer dressed as a "dealer" has either offer a carriage or a lawnmower convincingly dressed as a carriage.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile chasing manufactured nonsense such as "core devs" and "miner consensus conference" and etcetera.
trinque: and of course, it appears the thing was received as "omg what is this anthology of dead european men" and "this math is too hard! unfair!"
sina: As the couple sat in the back seat of the car, Mr. Denisultanov-Kurmakayev said, “‘Now, here is your gift,’” Ms. Okuyeva said. He opened the box, pulled out a gun and opened fire on Mr. Osmayev.
sina: As they drove, Mr. Denisultanov-Kurmakayev asked the pair to stop the car for an interview and to sit in the back to receive the gift, which he carried in a festive red cardboard box.
sina: Chechen assassin poses as Le Monde reporter to try and kill them
BingoBoingo: likely within 5 years dope selling on street will be prosecuted as "attempted murder" with zero CIA traffickers hung
BingoBoingo: Here in Illinois they inestigate to prosecute as murder by dealer, much progress
mircea_popescu: a while back they started trying to prosecute all overdose deaths as manslaughter-by-dealer. getting desperate, obviously.
sina: something I have been looking into as well, kind of related in the testing-for-weakness-to-validate-sanity sense, is this program "cbmc"
mircea_popescu: mirrors neatly how all sorts of dorks have been trying to create exactly the same, "just as good as bitcoin with just a bit of censorship" sort of bs.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 15:11 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667584 << it is not, and ain't going to be, i'm not especially interested in helping folx to 'embrace and extinguish' it. as far as i'm concerned, 100% of the output is verifiable with the bignum calculator of your choice (e.g. 'bc') and it is no concern of anybody's how it was obtained.
sina: as if that isn't one line of lisp?
sina: ok, so should I keep my screw implementation as is?
sina: then I get the same issue as you
sina: ben_vulpes: as you can see my implementation for screw is only 3 lines long, can you see any faults in it?
mircea_popescu: i don't readily see a problem with the story as displayed.
mircea_popescu: PeterL the problem is that even as is the complexity is pretty hard to manage. making more complex primitives is not going to help this
mircea_popescu: (technically "expand" is always re s, as per definition, but sure.)
mircea_popescu: That bit in R is flipped and we rewind. << the definition of the op makes cycles impossibru as such
mircea_popescu: nah, it'll rewind as part of a more complex op.
ben_vulpes: sina, i have a patch sitting in my tree that will paste output as well
sina: ah fux, so I can't rely on the steps displayed in the prototype to validate my work as I go?
shinohai: I always chose to see one as liquishit vs solid
mircea_popescu: "o btw, did they MAKE a ton of money, or did they just IMAGINE they MIGHT AS WELL HAD on the basis of stuff they read on a website ?"
mircea_popescu: "let's stash dubious chinese imports in the us as a wealth amassing scheme, wut could possibly go wrong!"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 16:08 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/i1Usl << from same fishwrap >> 'Two members of the US Army National Guard have been convicted of running a credit card fraud scheme involving bitcoin... using bitcoins to purchase stolen credit and debit card numbers... using magnetic strip re-encoding tools to apply stolen numbers to dummy cards, after which they would buy merchandise from Army and Air Force Exchange Service stores at US military bases, as well a
asciilifeform: well, theoretically box consisting of two gurlz with telegraph keys, relaying packets by hand -- not porous. but this is not what folx typically buy as 'router'..
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/i1Usl << from same fishwrap >> 'Two members of the US Army National Guard have been convicted of running a credit card fraud scheme involving bitcoin... using bitcoins to purchase stolen credit and debit card numbers... using magnetic strip re-encoding tools to apply stolen numbers to dummy cards, after which they would buy merchandise from Army and Air Force Exchange Service stores at US military bases, as well a ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: figured as much, no complaints
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667584 << it is not, and ain't going to be, i'm not especially interested in helping folx to 'embrace and extinguish' it. as far as i'm concerned, 100% of the output is verifiable with the bignum calculator of your choice (e.g. 'bc') and it is no concern of anybody's how it was obtained. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 08:56 sina: you can also use eventlet wsgi on the frontend to offload the http side as well
ben_vulpes: because i've yet to learn the dark arts of macro wizardry, and it's dangerous, and so it gets filed as dangerous stuff i don't understand yet.
ben_vulpes: perhaps mircea_popescu can enlighten me as to why exactly it works this way
mircea_popescu: as stated this is unsurprising
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's this algorithmic (as opposed to algebraic) hash function. ben_vulpes released his lisp impl.
sina: will do so now, as you can see I was reading previous months logs :P
sina: you can also use eventlet wsgi on the frontend to offload the http side as well ☟︎
mircea_popescu: myeah. there's this very pernicious "i could read any book, therefore i'm just as good as one who actually did so read" nonsense that;s by now 100% of white culture by mass.