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jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-06#1959036 - hmm, I thought Shannon proved you can't have that without the pad having at least as many bits as the message. If there's more possible FS states than passwords, then I can find one that can't be pulled out by any key - reminds me of Cantor's diagonalization
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-06 18:28:59 mp_en_viaje: in any case i'm not proceeding from an utilitarian perspective, "this should exist because the user would benefit". the logic informing the concept is rather existential, "for such a thing as an operating system to meaningfully exist, the self-destruct must be in the operator's hands at all times"
mp_en_viaje: i do propose this is a universally valid truth ; though i do not expect it's necessarily actionable. plenty of people care much more than i do.
mp_en_viaje: exactly like the point with "informative radio progeramming" or w/e i was discussing with whaack on his blog : you can ask whatever, but in the end you're still talking to the call center. "and when you get there, you'll still be in a pontiac", as lefty put it. see ?
dorion: I don't right now because I don't have any license. I could put effort into making relationship with licensed operations, but thought I'd ask you since the minimal exposure I have to those smelled more like incomptence.
mp_en_viaje: i mean, the one informative analogy here is i suppose an insured plumber, or even better a union shop. if you're uninsured and want to do plumbing for some guy who needs plumbing done, either he drops the "i want an insured plumber" or you go get insured. same with a union shop : if you wanna work there, either you bust the union or else join the union.
dorion: I inferred that he wants to deal with entities with a license for a securities regulator.
mp_en_viaje: https://markets.cboe.com/europe/equities/market_statistics/otc_reporting/?mkt=trf << here's i suppose a primer. otc originally means "over the counter", it;'s a term of art in finance.
mp_en_viaje: i suspect some term confusion might be at work here.
mp_en_viaje: i mean, there's an actual otc market, i traded on it, so have most people, it's still regulated as much as any market,
dorion: do you have a recommendation for how I could counter this fiat mindedness when talking with those adapted to the fiat regulation ?
dorion: I'm pretty inexperienced on the bank based side of otc and the couple otc desks I've talked to don't seem so much different than the website exchanges, e.g. use phone apps and/or gmail to facilitate the deals, aren't using gpg or the wot, etc.
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-07#1959062 - I'm looking forward to this time next year when ~everyone has forgotten him and he's no longer brought up ~everytime I answer the question of where I'm from. can go back to mountains, marble, maple syrup and ben & jerry's.
BingoBoingo: Well, It's the Iranian supposing it. Very well could have been Eritrea, Kenya, Israel, or the pangolins. I weighted the Iranian saying this as worthwhile on their January humiliation of Trump, Pompeo, and the US military. Maybe they unload some elderly and hang the US with this. Yes hitting the Italian and Iranian geriatric states is incredibly lulzy, but I suspect there's a deeper bench behind Iran's geriatrics than the US raised. The
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-06#1959020 << a shred command is a command, ie, a user space program. a kernel call is a kernel call. i don't care how it is exposed ; i deeply care the kernel isn't ~built around it~.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-06 14:29:53 jfw: mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-05#1958950 - still worked, though that was on a musl gawk, perhaps it's special in a sufficiently different way. I don't have a drepper box around with that much disk atm. I'll believe it once blew up in some environment though.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-06#1959015 << i think gawk doesn't actually have this problem. i tend not to use it because of all the networking bs.
mp_en_viaje: i think giving away a monopoly to existential thought away to the usg and limiting self to the merely municipal "utilitarian" perspective is not much better, nor in fact substantially different from giving them a monopoly on coinage. which i take we're not willing to give.
ossabot: Logged on 2016-06-30 11:33:02 a111: Logged on 2015-01-30 05:51 mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums.
mp_en_viaje: then from that node we can proceed to a "well, how's this to be implemented ? should there eg be a wipeage button or not worth bothering with". i think it's worth bothering with for the statement it makes, for everyone, users and producers alike ; even if it's neither useful nor used. lots of things are neither used nor used, like say the us supreme court.
mp_en_viaje: in any case i'm not proceeding from an utilitarian perspective, "this should exist because the user would benefit". the logic informing the concept is rather existential, "for such a thing as an operating system to meaningfully exist, the self-destruct must be in the operator's hands at all times"
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-06#1959012 << it's a matter of principle rather than anything ; i think it's poor practice to argue against principles on the basis of expediency. how useful the item is in practice is a fine discussion to be had, sure ; but can only be had on the actually sound basis of having the item in the first place.
diana_coman: and sure, one can still branch (effectively on the manifest file), but again, I don't see the situation where the leaves are not obvious even in a huge tree.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-06#1959017 - if you mean the branches from before the manifest was introduced in that specific tree, it's not that much "with a manifest" really; but in any case, regardless of how many leaves there are, they are still obvious enough in a tree text dump so that I don't think it's needed separately as such.
jfw: and if, say, every gtk prog is done by building on the gtk tree (not finding the ref but I recall MP explaining it to me thus), this could be a pretty common situation
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-06 03:55:25 bvt: diana_coman: i have a question about leafs command: can you explain how you use it? i gave it some thought, and honestly i fail to see how it is useful: after adding the manifest which linearizes the vpatches, "leafs" reports only one leaf, without showing the split vtree branches before it.
jfw: mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-05#1958950 - still worked, though that was on a musl gawk, perhaps it's special in a sufficiently different way. I don't have a drepper box around with that much disk atm. I'll believe it once blew up in some environment though.
jfw is known for "I wonder how you'd do a fork bomb in Python..." on a highschool server
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-06 04:08:24 mp_en_viaje: billymg, http://trilema.com/2020/our-democracy-or-rather-mostly-theirs/#comment-147687 << you know, i actually live in costa rica, i ain't going anywhere. what http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-03#1958805 means is that i'll be in costa rica till late may, and then from june onwards ; it's true i've lived 11 months in 33 or some shit euro towns, but that was a brief interruption as these things go -- be
billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-06#1958982 << that was my understanding, i meant home base in cr
mp_en_viaje: http://archive.is/7LwE5 << not that the other side is any better. imagine, all the "socially well adjusted" morons who can't add managed to re-do the same trite nonsense 50000 times, NOT ONE thinking to mention... i dunno, any of the self-obvious points, from "it depends on what is is" and onwards.
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, from a sadly-still-practicing anthropologist pov, this notion (that a) "all the enemy is the same enemy" and b) "the name for it is satan") is quite likely the oldest human idea ; much older than any kind of religion howsoever loosely defined, and i suspect OLDER THAN LANGUAGE.
diana_coman: I have no idea; that's what the spam said and it made to me ~as much sense as that log.
diana_coman: I'll counter that with today's blog-spam: "metal pants!"
mp_en_viaje: a coupla years, and even if before that argentina etc, as i told the (new) manager of my old indian restaurant : "i've been coming here for fifteen years". literally, since 2005, just about this time of year, place's had at least three owners that i know of in the interval and a dozen or more generations of peacocks, but i perdure.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-03 12:40:10 mp_en_viaje: jfw, well, i plan on maybe going to rio late may ; other than that i'll be mostly around. pick a day, i don't specifically care which and it doesn't make any sense for you to try and coordinate with large groups at large distances -- if indeed there's a gathering you can take the hourish trip down again, at the considerable cost to you of a lunch out or w/e it is.
mp_en_viaje: billymg, http://trilema.com/2020/our-democracy-or-rather-mostly-theirs/#comment-147687 << you know, i actually live in costa rica, i ain't going anywhere. what http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-03#1958805 means is that i'll be in costa rica till late may, and then from june onwards ; it's true i've lived 11 months in 33 or some shit euro towns, but that was a brief interruption as these things go -- before that i lived in cr
diana_coman: bvt: cool, I should be able to give it another spin on Monday the latest (or so is the current plan).
bvt: good, so i guess i can release a vpatch this weekend
mp_en_viaje: bvt, i think a large part of it is that indeed this tool is evoloving ; and has been, but deliberately under the specific sort of pressurte, which comes with usage. you're not under some great weight of "having to get it perfectly & forever right" now, just as mod6 or ben_vulpes or anytone else wasn't 3 years ago.
diana_coman: or at least no need that I can see, even if the tree is huge.
mp_en_viaje: because each time someone blows a fuse and ends up wanting an official word, i end up looking at some shit so stupid it's beyond this world.
bvt: i extended the examples to also show vpatches selected for presses (http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=8Hrq): would this make "leafs" not needed in your view?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i am too lazy to search where in the discussion on which blog inside which comment i made months ago the point that he's very poor at estimating anything and generally (and universally unreviewed) wrong
bvt: diana_coman: i have a question about leafs command: can you explain how you use it? i gave it some thought, and honestly i fail to see how it is useful: after adding the manifest which linearizes the vpatches, "leafs" reports only one leaf, without showing the split vtree branches before it.
diana_coman: I doubt being right is their concern at all really.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-21 01:58:17 mircea_popescu: jfw, tell mom to come in sometime, i wouldn't mind commissioning ru versions of some trilema articles from ye 30year veteran editor of the executive intelligence review.
jfw: I tried a nearby "GNU Awk 4.1.3" on 1gb of `yes`. The direct reading was consistently slower than both input redirection and cat | , which is certainly suspicious in itself; seemed to work though
jfw: also http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-04#1958852 occurred to me, and I figured "to irritate the kind of people who complain about such things". Looks like I should indeed ask more things.
jfw: well then, seems we're solving a bigger problem than I realized
mp_en_viaje: i guess we'll have to patch bash to recognize it, and that's that.
mp_en_viaje: honestly i think my first guess is also correct, /* */ is the widest
mp_en_viaje: it was intended to be valid comment. i am annimated by the vague hope that there can be such a thing as "comment" in all languages
jfw: hm, I've heard of it but was under the impression that padding is a different thing.
jfw: mp_en_viaje: I mighta tried to stuff too much into one article... my original goal was to explain how bitcoin transactions embed the signatures in the broader context of other ways it can be done.
jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-04#1957893 - diana_coman observes I need more practice at figuring things out through discussion / asking than quietly on my own. Anyway, in my latest I've attempted to sort out my thoughts on the matter. There are some questions there on the clearsigning
diana_coman: well, the pics I really wish I had would cover the '80s rather, so dunno; but anyway, since can't take them in past, might as well take them when there next, what else to do.
mp_en_viaje: o, this was panama ? i thought it was florida
mp_en_viaje: in any case, this is the fundamental defect of all utopian "thinking", of the reformation ("the testament i read, and the testament that is, are the same testament!!!") in general, and of pretty much all usian attempts, from "believe women" to "manifest destiny" or w/e. this hope to one thing.
mp_en_viaje: "people shouldn't lie" "motherfucker, I WAS TELLING A STORY!!!" what, "nevertheless!!!" what is this, jeffersonian democracy ?
mp_en_viaje: if i do check it out, and in a week return, "bitch, i know five guys that've done you" she'll ask me "so ?" and if i go "you lied" she'll leave because "you're a fucking idiot". she has a point, doesn't she.
mp_en_viaje: it is substantially the same as the male equivalent (which for some reason is formally opposite, "i leased 20k chicks in one year!!!". cool!
mp_en_viaje: right. one day i met a girl, we fucked, then she told me i am her third. this happens ; what do i care ? i didn't refrain from anything until her claim checked out (nor did i bother checking), what difference does it possibly make.
dorion: I didn't mean it as how I treat them, but what my expectations are.
mp_en_viaje: the other's illustrated in glengarry glenn ross, "I want to show you something. It might mean nothing to you...and it might not. I don't know. I don't know anymore. What is that? Florida. Glengarry Highlands. Florida. "Florida. Bullshit." And maybe that's true; and that's what I said: but look here: what is this? This is a piece of land. Listen to what I'm going to tell you now:"
dorion: how I judge what they say is I look them up, ask around, etc.
dorion: in my mind, I talk to people to see who'd be a good fit. based on what they say, I decide if I want to continue talking to them. part of
dorion: mp_en_viaje hm, not sure I do see. you're baiting to see the degree to which I remain ustardian painted into the corner ? ftr, I for sure want to be aware.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2020/i-suppose-we-shall-now-recount-the-story-of-the-czech-teenager/ << Trilema -- I suppose we shall now recount the story of the Czech teenager
mp_en_viaje: you asking me how to verify an anecdote, the very substance of social banter, denotes you miss the point ; and it paints my observation in its true colors : i'm baiting, because i suspect you might.
mp_en_viaje: this is, perhaps, a weird thing to say ; then again i'm a weird sort of guy. to retort that "well... how would i go about verifying it" is pretty good repartee in the fancied context i just described.
mp_en_viaje: and i say "you know, from experience these never actually occured".
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-02#1958772 << in retrospect, i suspect maybe you don't take my meaning.
mp_en_viaje: maybe the bimbo, i'm old and lazy. but ty!
whaack: mp_en_viaje: cool, if you do a beach trip nearby and would like to surf I'll take care of the boards etc.
mp_en_viaje: whaack, i usually beach central rather than north, but maybe we drive up there one day, check it out
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-01 11:35:04 mp_en_viaje: speaking of which, where in cr are you whaack ? i dun remember
whaack: mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-01#1958708 Apologies, I had responded to this without having +v and didn't realize the message didn't go through. (thankfully jfw pointed out I had missed the msg) I'm in Playa Junquillal, a beach in Guanacaste (the nearest city is Santa Cruz) . It's pretty close to billymg's location. I am game for the 28th.
billymg: anytime after tuesday should work, just so i can rest after the flight over
mp_en_viaje: not that, but i figured we actually go have a cup of coffee this week
billymg: mp_en_viaje: i didn't mean to invite myself to anything though, if it was meant to be only for a smaller group i'm happy to wait until called upon
billymg: mp_en_viaje: yup, i'll be there permanently as of next monday. just figured i'd doubly confirm that i'll be around that weekend
mp_en_viaje: billymg, i thought you lived here
dorion: mp_en_viaje , jfw I'm game for the weekend of the 28th.
mp_en_viaje: i read once a sf story about some future world so bereft of actual meaning, people were buying "memories"
jfw: I admit I haven't seen.
mp_en_viaje: just, you know, ACTUALLY threadbare sheets, something i doubt you've ever seen irl.
jfw: mp_en_viaje: alright, I'll go for Saturday March 28th. If that works for others too, so much the merrier.
mp_en_viaje: jfw, well, i plan on maybe going to rio late may ; other than that i'll be mostly around. pick a day, i don't specifically care which and it doesn't make any sense for you to try and coordinate with large groups at large distances -- if indeed there's a gathering you can take the hourish trip down again, at the considerable cost to you of a lunch out or w/e it is.
jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-01#1958709 - I'm game.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-01 10:35:31 trinque: not tabled, and I apologize for the delay. I think it needs about one more post, and then there'll be a whole item described. I've been digging into that this weekend, ought to be able to squeeze it out today or tomorrow.
mp_en_viaje: oh ? i missed it
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-14 08:58:52 mircea_popescu: i will want a full release ready to go concomitantly, so if your client isn't liable to be around then maybe deed it prior.
mp_en_viaje: mod6, i didn't end up in costa rica by accident, you know ?
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-01#1958744 - thanks for the link and reality check. I have been skeptical given the negatives noted. all I've been able to find so far to verify is his partner's finra brokercheck checks out with his linkedin - for whatever those are worth.
mp_en_viaje: i don't think you understand ; costa rica is austin in march/april 12 months a year.
billymg: trinque: also, hey, i've got about a week left here in austin. if you're not too busy let me know if you'd be up for a drink or some steaks
billymg: trinque: i haven't looked closely enough at it yet to say but i will check out get_header and see if i can get it working that way. ty for the lead on that
trinque: mp_en_viaje: I might be able to travel in summer, don't mind the mugginess as long as there's beach.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i just did it, so yeah. fly avianca though, via colombia, leaving either spain or germany. easily the best airline over the atlantic today.