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lobbes:
I could bring it in now even, it just is logging to my test site
lobbes: mp_en_viaje, agreed (btw if
I ever do make it to CR real coffee will be one of the first things
I try)
mp_en_viaje: omfg, the coffee in this country. idiot germans come in and buy all the best sorts anyone can be arsed to sell them ; then you go to germany and can't have a decent cup of coffee.
i just can't set it down.
mp_en_viaje:
i for one'd have expected the structural definition in the comments'd be more useful than the actual dump file ; but in any case, there's more problems even higher up.
lobbes: mp_en_viaje, ah
I see what you mean. Yeah
I guess that may be a bit of a pain trying to produce something in that format. Hm
lobbes: mp_en_viaje, hm,
I can't find a reference to a log8.txt in that discussion, but if that was what you used for your input file then yeah definitely
I'd want to see that
lobbes: mp_en_viaje, yeah that was the discussion.
I think the script that ended up working for you was in
this comment mp_en_viaje: lobbes, im digging through the stuff here, because
i suspect there might;ve been more to it all than just that, so a sec
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-10 13:51:09 diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: to my mind there wasn't anything new/unknown/controversial in there really; (or
I'd have moved it to #t earlier anyway).
mp_en_viaje: this is of course my problem ; you can do it elsewhere cheaper / better / whatever,
i'm the last dood to get in the way of any such a thing.
mp_en_viaje: there ~is~ of course substantial cost involved in
i dunno, keeping a capitalized company on the books while alf derps about re-doing the same mistakes on the chickenfeed he's found in his couch cushions. there's similarily a substantial cost involved in maintaining all these trilema herramientas
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-10 13:38:48 jfw: mp_en_viaje: does the idiot list include me this time?
I could try to be more mindful of when a discussion should be moved or started here
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-09 22:57:45 lobbes: Also, are you good for tomorrow night or were you looking for doing this during the day?
I'm slaving in the mines tomorrow but my night is clear. If need be
I may be able to weasel a work-from-home day though, so
I'll check back when
I wake up tomorrow
lobbes: Instead,
I figure why don't
I just cut out 2,3,4,5 and instead
I just alter my 1) to pull logs from my Postgres database in the same format of your input into your backfill process (which has already been
proven to function to spec)?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-02 16:41:29 mircea_popescu: ima try putting the first few in and we see (
i hope for eg you do the sed 's%"%\\"%g' | sed 's%*%\*%g' escapings, yes ?)
lobbes: To lay it out, my convoluted process last time of getting you the data you needed was: 1) Pulling logs from my Postgres database to a flatfile 2) importing that into mp-wp's MySQL database 3) getting a mysql dump of *that* 4) altering said dump with e.g.
sed escapes, etc. then finally 5)
I give it to you
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-09 22:57:28 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: In preparation of our next attempt at getting this project done,
I've been going through my
faff-fest from last time.. and trying to figure out how we should pick back up
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-10 13:12:20 mp_en_viaje: is pondering this wonder. wtf are you idiots doing over there ? srsly tryina come up with all this shit on your own, who knows, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, then
i go read it on qntra and what, maybe
i agree, maybe
i don't, in any case ~after the fact~, at which point as chance dictates, either
i sever the link or not ?
jfw: As for the private key, since as
I understand you want to spend from an existing one imported from some other wallet implementation,
I should note that it can be imported in hex or WIF format, however, as in TRB, "compressed" keys aren't presently distinguished. It's possible to use them through some code tweaks, though it's presently all one or all the other.
jfw: The consequences of its being incorrect are mostly that the tx won't validate - EXCEPT (
I recently realized) for the value field, which could be used to subvert the fee and change computation.
jfw: The function of the 'online' code
I referenced is to index this information and get it in the required format; you could instead use block explorers or whatever you please to get the information and it's none of my business. Or
I could provide it, since you gave the address.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: to my mind there wasn't anything new/unknown/controversial in there really; (or
I'd have moved it to #t earlier anyway).
jfw: As best
I could determine for my
spec, this is an unavoidable consequence of the design of bitcoin transactions. Specifically what's required: address (as an identifier for the private key from a set of multiple; if you just have one then of course this is trivial); txid, output index within that tx, and value,
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-10 13:23:21 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman,
i guess you're stuck with a much larger chunk than originally contemplated, unexpectedly enough.
jfw: mp_en_viaje: does the idiot list include me this time?
I could try to be more mindful of when a discussion should be moved or started here
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman,
i guess you're stuck with a much larger chunk than originally contemplated, unexpectedly enough.
mp_en_viaje leaves off reading #ossasepia ;
i guess in principle there's nothing all that wrong with it.
mp_en_viaje is pondering this wonder. wtf are you idiots doing over there ? srsly tryina come up with all this shit on your own, who knows, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, then
i go read it on qntra and what, maybe
i agree, maybe
i don't, in any case ~after the fact~, at which point as chance dictates, either
i sever the link or not ?
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-03-09 jfw:
I think it's the right sort of bother: given all the code
I ~have~ read or written it seems an important distinction as far as which category someone chooses to trust from me.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-03-09 jfw: My plan is to start next week with creating a 'gypsy code signing' key then
I suppose get the list together and into some kind of order.
billymg: that's what
i was telling the local: they are making demands without willing to pay. if they want lifeguard on duty they'll be at a luxury resort paying 5x
mp_en_viaje:
i wonder when they're gonna start pestering bars, "we want to come and spittle in a beerbotle for three hours, but you gotta have driver."
billymg: mp_en_viaje: yeah, the conversation with the tico was productive, he was also throwing up his hands in disbelief at their request.
i coached him into telling them to walk after realizing they really have no other options (other hotels aren't gonna empty pools / don't have lifeguards on duty, and tour group dun have the budget themselves to hire the lifeguard)
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman,
i kinda think it is. typos aside, but anyways.
mp_en_viaje: billymg, ah. so build your backchannel with him. "wtf is this about, can you explain it to me ?
i spend money to build pool so they have fun, they want it epty ?!"
billymg: probably,
i'm interfacing through a nice and capable tico who's been organizing these groups of americans and doing business with this property / previous owner for years now
billymg: to which
i said fuck off, and they then said, find just dun let em swim
mp_en_viaje: that can be follow-up. "hi,
i got this property right next to yours, and we're thinking of pushing the x to draw optic fiber close. would this be something you'd like to get into ?"
mp_en_viaje: billymg,
i don't get it, what are you asking ?
billymg:
i then followed up with one of their technicians who visited the property and he said it was doable and we just need to go through the RFP / proposal process
billymg: (
i need to get on my lawyer here about filling out the RFP)
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-03-09 diana_coman: spyked: well, no boost dep is certainly a gain; and yeah,
I'm sure that the earlier the version the less of a monster it is; that being said,
I'm either really getting old or something but
I can hardly see the point of >10k LOC for what can be done precisely as wanted through <1k lines of cmd line tools, huh.
billymg:
i've got a temporary internet solution now as well (cellular LTE via Movistar) as we work on getting the real thing
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-09 22:57:45 lobbes: Also, are you good for tomorrow night or were you looking for doing this during the day?
I'm slaving in the mines tomorrow but my night is clear. If need be
I may be able to weasel a work-from-home day though, so
I'll check back when
I wake up tomorrow
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-09 22:57:28 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: In preparation of our next attempt at getting this project done,
I've been going through my
faff-fest from last time.. and trying to figure out how we should pick back up
mp_en_viaje: if this isn't what it does,
i suspect
i might deeply misunderstand wtf it actually does.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-09 22:26:10 jfw: mp_en_viaje: do you have a specific goal in mind for Thursday's wallet work? Do you also want to use the online part (
I would imagine so but could technically be done without)? If so, note that it takes about a day to scan the present blockchain once fed the address(es) of interest, and requires a TRB node. If you wish to also send the rawtx using it, as would be most proper, we'll also need that
diana_coman: what a great #o log to start the day to! BingoBoingo draft looks good,
I'd probably just add a comma after "to take shape"; and congrats to jfw on a straight-to-the-point quote!
lobbes: Also, are you good for tomorrow night or were you looking for doing this during the day?
I'm slaving in the mines tomorrow but my night is clear. If need be
I may be able to weasel a work-from-home day though, so
I'll check back when
I wake up tomorrow
lobbes: Since you already have that script working,
I figure we may as well use it for this piece. All my log history is in a Postgres database though, so
I need to "convert" my data at least once. Would you be able to send me a sample of that logstory.txt?
lobbes: Then
I realized that all that insanity was indeed because
I was needlessly translating all kinds of strings across boundaries.
I think the cleanest way to do this historical (May 28, 2016 to Now) log backfill is if
I just provide you a text file in the same format as your "logstory.txt" you reference in
this comment lobbes: mp_en_viaje: In preparation of our next attempt at getting this project done,
I've been going through my
faff-fest from last time.. and trying to figure out how we should pick back up
jfw: polarbeard patch which
I haven't yet got reground.
jfw: mp_en_viaje: do you have a specific goal in mind for Thursday's wallet work? Do you also want to use the online part (
I would imagine so but could technically be done without)? If so, note that it takes about a day to scan the present blockchain once fed the address(es) of interest, and requires a TRB node. If you wish to also send the rawtx using it, as would be most proper, we'll also need that
diana_coman:
I'll get around to it later today and will let you know how it went.
diana_coman: bvt: ah, glad to hear you found the trouble; whichever way you prefer really,
I can move the slot to Friday, not an issue (and otherwise plenty to fill the Monday time, heh)
bvt: diana_coman: fixed link; ty for your test set,
i have the fix (totally my bad), which
I can upload today in a few hours (as a vpatch) if you still have a timeslot dedicated to v.sh tomorrow, or if you prefer it with a writeup,
i will publish it until thursday.
diana_coman: bvt:
I forgot the "
http" on the link to the .tar.gz in my latest comment on your site, would you mind fixing it for me? something's still weird with that eucrypt dir & v.sh so
I've uploaded it, if anyone else wants to have a look at it.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-07 20:05:24 jfw:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-07#1959156 -
I first took this as "it's fine either way" but maybe there's a question there too. Supposing the change output always came first; then, someone who knows this gets more information about how much you're sending where from looking at the transaction than if it came in a random position. And this thought would seem to extend to any process
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-07 19:13:26 mp_en_viaje: jfw,
i don't imagine it makes any difference, why would it ?
jfw:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-07#1959156 -
I first took this as "it's fine either way" but maybe there's a question there too. Supposing the change output always came first; then, someone who knows this gets more information about how much you're sending where from looking at the transaction than if it came in a random position. And this thought would seem to extend to any process
mp_en_viaje: jfw,
i wasn't talking about the instant case necessarily ; but in general.
i expect most
2013-ish vintage itemsd have neither gnat nor python.
mp_en_viaje: ah ah.
i momentarily forgot about that part.
jfw: hm,
I wonder how much isn't clear then.
I wrote a Scheme interpreter, which is part of what
I need to get published. This in turn requires only gcc.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-07 18:23:47 jfw: mp_en_viaje: how do you define
totalitarian systems? (before
I even try to add on the 'meaningful' part)
mp_en_viaje: h
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-07#1959124 << and to answer the meaningful part : consider the usg's "obscenity standard". it is perfectly an' epitomatically meaningless,
i care naught that a buncha idle farmhands who can't talk for all the shit in their mouth "all agree". this inexpressible agreement is the definition of meaninglessness.
mp_en_viaje:
i have nfi why exactly your offline thing is in scheme, as opposed to something more likely to be found on an offline system (which, definitionally, ain't gonna be importing software in its lifetime).
mp_en_viaje: yes well,
i dunno how much of this "if in the future" is useful in context.
i mean, maybe the aliens invade, gouge the eyes of anyone who makes filenames under 6 characters long.
mp_en_viaje:
i have nfi, it's your code, it's your strategy. do you have shared parts ?
mp_en_viaje:
i dunno that
i'd ever want to press both at the same time ;
i also don't see that they have to have separate genesises necessarily. you can press one r the other by selecting the proper branch neh ?
jfw: 3.
I had planned to make a single genesis of both online (python) and offline (Scheme) parts, as it seemed sensible to have it all in one place even if the intent is to use separately, but dorion brought up whether it'd be better to have two trees.
I can't quite see that having any advantages, but how about you?
mp_en_viaje: jfw,
i don't imagine it makes any difference, why would it ?
jfw: 2.
I forget if
I mentioned it in my spec but my code shuffles the order of transaction outputs, for obfuscation or general "why not". Is this reasoanble / acceptable?
mp_en_viaje:
i dunno that it has to be nailed ad hoc here. there were preliminary discussions years ago that didn't resolve and haven't been revisited
jfw: So the question is...
I dunno, 'wut do?' Or, can we leave this one for now?
jfw: mp_en_viaje: a few other questions come up as
I prepare to genesis. 1: tabs vs spaces - my Scheme code is all spaces and
I don't know how to reasonably do it otherwise; lisp has established indenting conventions that tend to line things up nicely but require 1-column granularity. Somehow, setting the tabstop to 1 doesn't seem like any kind of solution (and still not sure
I even grasp the problem).
jfw: Can
I assume you have an x86_64 unixlike with gcc for the install?
jfw: well,
I suppose
I should rather ask who to read there than just guessing.
mp_en_viaje:
i suppose something like "complete" would be more intuitively appealing ; but a complete (or realised) system is one that merely satisfies the first criterion. things like the linnaeus classification have been complete since their introduction, for instance.
jfw:
I got that re the hash(hash( at least.
jfw: lolz.
I'm sure some top codebreakers are working on that.