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BingoBoingo remembers something happening to tinymce down the line with hanbots patches to mp-wp will have to dig to see what happened. Neither of the editor tabs appear to be linked to anything in the mp-wp's I've pressed recently. They've just been html input/view boxes.
mircea_popescu: i suspect breakage somewhere along the way, because iirc hanbot 's mp-wp that i testrun at some point had these.
mircea_popescu: this completely breaks it, at least as far as my workflow is concerned, because i never use anything besides 1 and you can't very practically get images in without 2. they're both core functionality of why i even bother with mp-wp in the first place, rather than some random other solution.
mircea_popescu: well BingoBoingo can i then have the item installed, since that's what i'm trying to test.
mircea_popescu: am i missing something here ? either it is or it isn't -- {automated ; identical}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it ?
mircea_popescu: (seeing how there's ~nothing else for them to do on a shared acct anyway ; at any rate it's been why i funelled them)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo somehow i had this idea you just keep around a standard version that's auto-rolled into shared hosting users
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I can set one up for you
mircea_popescu: jesus i mashed f7 more than any other key before or hence
asciilifeform: to revisit upstack, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-22#1882749 << there still aint anyffing (on pc, rather than bolixisms etc) that even equals the handiness of turboc & watcom (ideological successor, arguably) -- i.e. with the single-stepping inside editor, etc ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: maybe he comes back. or, whoknows , some folx tune out but leave box on autopilot for ~years~ (e.g. mike_c did, or for instance Framedragger's log thing still worked as of coupla wks ago when i last looked.. )
diana_coman: the summaries link is still working from what I can see
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i fiddled with 'quickbasic' (the 'non-crippled' ver of microshit 'qbasic' for more yrs than care to admit
asciilifeform: never (at least then) located a programmable-anyffin that ran on these. all i managed to do was find how to get to the rom forth and hose the 'lockdowned' boxen
mircea_popescu: i took it as a "freedom" : back in soviety, had to have basic, here can install w/e one wants.
asciilifeform: i remember thinking 'where the fuck is the rom basic'
asciilifeform: they had'em in the school i ended up in when went to usa
asciilifeform: i recall
asciilifeform: i.e. almost toyota in current .
diana_coman: I actually timed it on a comp and it's not *that* bad,no
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 20:14 asciilifeform: i can actually think of applications where you'd want 100% egypt.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ty ! i'ma roll this (and your prev sigs) into the currently-baking ch
asciilifeform: ( i could go on at length, they've reached heights of lulz unknown even in 1990s, when they at least sold standard hdds. today even the drives have custom pinouts, cost 10 : 1 vs ordinary )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, phf I've signed and mirrored ch6 of ffa: http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/#selection-603.0-617.46 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: no, i mean apple. they're still out there trying to sell three inch "cables" for 19.95 aren't they ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 07:39 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "tumblr goes full retard", https://i.ibb.co/HrXHSKJ/tumblr.jpg
mircea_popescu: yes, i recall, since http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881337 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm totally NOT blowing the dust off ye olde ro chan thing for fuck's sake.
mircea_popescu: anyway, nfi what their racism angle is, most girls to call themselves "thicc" i ever saw were white (a subtrope of how "most girls to everything -- white, there's barely any blacks extant anyway).
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure. I'll spin one up for you. GPGgram me an ssh public key.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo can i get a shared hosting instance briefly spun up so i test drive it ? i have like a suspicion mp-wp is subtly broken in places, maybe, or something's afoot.
lobbes: spyked: as planned I have turned lobbesbot's rss-o-tron offline- feel free to have feedbot join #eulora at your convenience
mircea_popescu: anyways, i don't expect you have to or should vpatch the ~data~. is thar what you meant by "vectors" ?
asciilifeform: aand with that, i'ma bbl.
asciilifeform: ( and yes i'll be surprised if we dun find that somebody has a box with rotten nonecc ram , or similar, and exposed by this. )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-22 00:29 asciilifeform: on proper (i.e. constanttimeistic iron mul) irons, 'uniform' and 'slid' test vectors will give same (to within timer jitter) runtimes when fed to ffa (of either ch13 or ch14 variety.)
asciilifeform: i dun presently own any examples of the last two mentioned irons, so gonna need some help (anybody have a ppc?)
asciilifeform: on defective (i.e. non-constanttime iron mul, or any other similar defect) they will give variant runtimes.
asciilifeform: on proper (i.e. constanttimeistic iron mul) irons, 'uniform' and 'slid' test vectors will give same (to within timer jitter) runtimes when fed to ffa (of either ch13 or ch14 variety.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't follow the logic ? are they that big or aren't they that big ?
asciilifeform: i'ma sign an' post these with the rest of the thing.
asciilifeform walks on just this side of the razor's edge of 'fucking, i'ma make own shoes' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes, well, i ain't gonna buy that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have no use for the synthetic "textile" bs.
asciilifeform: i was about to say
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-21#1882622 << it's exactly janissary corps. ( and so i suppose we'll know that he tried if his head ends up 'defunded' like the last d00d's ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-21 21:56 mircea_popescu: in other minutia, i just took possession of ~custom made house slippers~. because you can't fucking buy leather slippers anymore for the love of fuck, "plastic should be enough for everyone".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-21#1882620 << funnily enuff, brother had slippers from su, lasted ~decade; whereas today i buy visually-identical chinesium that's good for ~6mo. tops ☝︎
mircea_popescu: by "cia" i mean 100% of government-sponsored "intelligence community", including all "agencies" and the respective subreddits.
mircea_popescu: in other minutia, i just took possession of ~custom made house slippers~. because you can't fucking buy leather slippers anymore for the love of fuck, "plastic should be enough for everyone". ☟︎
asciilifeform: presumably it's satisfying, tho i cannot fathom how.
BingoBoingo: As far as I can tell other than the young Barron, his children ain't all that loyal
asciilifeform: iirc i said this after end of yr1 of trumpreich, 'guess what, still can't tell who is in white house by looking out of my window'. and can say it again at end of 2nd yr. machine is built for continuation of 'biz as usual' at all costs, and will work while it has physically with what.
asciilifeform: there's 0 on paper to keep him from 'you can have all the freisler trials you like, i'ma pardon erryone'
trinque: chairman orange has already said "half the country will revolt" if dethroned. wouldn't mind to see what if, not that I'm holding my breath.
asciilifeform: i still suspect that proof won't 'Officially Count' cuz 'not pdf.' (tho hey, i have a coupla uniturds, and even a lolcat!111 )
mircea_popescu: i think so.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, original portion of the way sword cuts thing seems much older than 2018.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-15 14:52 mircea_popescu: incidentally, since we're doing lost arts, where the fuck did i state the pantsuit's problem of integration (ie, that pantsuitism doesn't stand a chance in the republic because the republic integrates it) in the terminology that "this sword cuts for them a portion of the way and for us the whole way" ? ie, that they're always dependent on state, whatever shit they come up with gotta be carefully ~stopped~ on various slippery
asciilifeform: that's what peddling 'just as good as actual cheese' does, in the end -- sets the table for 'hey i have a just-as-just-as-good , with flashier gui and endorsement from ibm' etc.
asciilifeform: and, like mircea_popescu , i also dun buy the excuse that 'lispm was expensive, i HAD to write kraft cheese for cheap micros'
mircea_popescu: i can absolutely see the angle.
mircea_popescu: or not see, either way, i'm just saying, "no, it's not that i spit because i do not use ; but vice versa".
asciilifeform: some people dunlike dogs, for instance, and refer to'em as armored personnel carriers for fleas. in this case so happens that i like dog. so interested in whether mircea_popescu was going from a 'dogs, who needs'em' angle or spotted flea in particular.
mircea_popescu: you asked me if i spit on things merely because i do not use them ; i explained teh reasoning thereof. i dun expect you to ~do~ something as a result of this, besides i guess saying "oh, i see what your issue is"
asciilifeform: ( he's pretty close to full-bore snoar naodays, tho. i delouse that linkbar not nearly as often as oughta, beginning to suspect )
asciilifeform: rando blogger which i historically read for elispism.
asciilifeform: i can't think of any reason to tolerate. but i also dun have a from-the-ground replacement for emacs per se.
mircea_popescu: i expect this is true.
asciilifeform: i suppose for certain kinds of people, 'hammer' is what you use to smash own thumb. for some other kinds, heads. but as far as i'm concerned it's for nails.
mircea_popescu: whether you're aware of this or not : 2000s era standards of usgtronic "science" had decayed to the point where, running some random virus off the internet was deemed as "independent verification". literally this, "i downloaded a bunch of numbers and a vbasic script off a website, it ran on my machine to the same result as it ran on publisher's machine, THEREFORE ALLEGED EXPERIMENT HAS BEEN INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED"
mircea_popescu: not "piles of shit left by others". specifically, i pompously declare myself "literate programatician", what this does is, vbasic autorun ; i pompously declare myself "respectable scientificist", what this does is, i download an excel script, watch its vbasic reproduce the same errors of http://trilema.com/2013/why-mpex-is-better-than-fiat-institutions-part-349085-we-dont-use-excel/#selection-143.0-153.147 and declare i have
asciilifeform: i dun even ~like~ or use 'orgmode'. but must dispute the 'folx who write elisp proggies are destructive zombies and class enemy' blanket.
mircea_popescu: i do not agree.
asciilifeform: i refer to it as perlism.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~that~ is good % of what passes for tooling errywhere. i.e. mechanisms to clean up piles of shit left by others.
mircea_popescu: i dunno if you follow this, but the way through which "golf club pattern" idiocy existed is exactly this sort of "automation" : i """scientist""" downloaded an excel from the internet and it spat out in my cell what the website said it spits so therefore EXPERIMENT VERIFIED
mircea_popescu: when ~i~ quote from an idiotic third party, you know this is going down, by the presence of the word idiot in there.
mircea_popescu: i can't discern what argument you're brining in there.
asciilifeform: ( fwiw asciilifeform tried 'orgmode' at length, decade ago, but didn't like, found that it does ~90% of what i needed, and the remaining 10% felt like same amt of work as simply using plain txt files + grep entirely. )
mircea_popescu: man, i just quoted it didn't i ?
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, while it can be used that way, that's not the way i use it". whopee.
mircea_popescu: "literate programming" MY FOOT! that piece of shit is the ~exact antithesis~ of literate programming, it's illiterate excel-ing. and i do not for a second believe that the "misnomer" is accidental -- it's exactly usg-deliberate. nor do i think the mention on the original dork's blog is accidental.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-21 14:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-21#1882424 << i'ma bet you found the d00d through asciilifeform's links sect, where he has a well-deserved place for useful elisp material. ( does mircea_popescu have something specifically against 'orgmode' , or simply in the habit of spitting on anything he dun use personally ? )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-21#1882432 << mircea_popescu believes orgmode is ~stupid~, which carries no further import than this, and mircea_popescu does not begrudge the users their usage. he however also notices that what it LEADS to is fucking anathema ; because if indeed orgmode is in your mind a stepping stone from emacs to pdf, then indeed orgmode is exactly as stupid as i fucking thought it was. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can't think of what to possibly add to it.
mircea_popescu: they know it works (as it evidently does, phf wasn't even born there i have to point out to him that http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-20#1882391 ) and so they want every last indian in some remote hunting lodge somewhere to have at least one blanket. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i happen to know that the 'mit tyranny' consisted of standard patent agreement. which some folx 'ohnoezed' and 'preemptively' bowed over, and others -- simply raped, and laughed all the way to bank.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 20:50 mircea_popescu: fact of the matter, for ~these reasons~ i don't even believe mit told original symbolics&co fucktards to be fucktards.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in the end, the important usg hook in social process among the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877467 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813416 / http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-09#1641131 crowd of morons is -- "the secrecy", as a usg earworm. ☝︎☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: i realize this aint news to mircea_popescu , but gotta put in the l0gz for all the folx who aint 10,000 y.o. olympians
mircea_popescu: i never witnessed this phenomenon where the same young hussy giving some age-peer a hard time puts out unasked as soon as some gypo shows up.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to add moar weird to the story, last night dks actually answered, with 'i'ma dig for some PAL stuff, will write back after newyear'. old man simply moves slowly. ( and notice that i did not have to swear masonic oath to him !111 )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 19:24 phf: so i'm not trusted at all?
mircea_popescu: and whether you're both 16 and i'm her father-owner rather than her master-owner ALSO MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO YOUR STATUS.
mircea_popescu: if i have a woman going out who pretends to put out so that i walk in on you, throw a fit and fuck you in the ass -- whether i show up to actually do it or not MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO YOUR STATUS. you're still my cock rag.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 22:21 mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean, capable when producing what etcetera. i never pursued a woman in my life, nor do i intend to ever start ; i hold no grudges for those who do, but you do understand ~an entire half of the species~ survived to the present day by ~exploting~ this behaviour of yours, yes ?
mircea_popescu: on fifth (and i guess final) re-read, it occurs to me the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1882248 <-> http://trilema.com/2012/the-imbecilitarians/#selection-223.252-223.669 link really should be made explicit. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and i was honest, did not dig up github, nfi,