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a111: Logged on 2018-05-02 00:40 asciilifeform: !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/piz_apr_parts.txt

asciilifeform: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.24737591 asciilifeform-powered snsa->pizarro crossborder transport ( see http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-02#1807162 manifest ) , inclusive of the iron repurchased earlier by pizarro ( i dun recall if the transport cost was part of the purchase, if it wasn't , plox to rebill ben_vulpes et al ) ☝︎

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-01 17:59 ben_vulpes: yes sold

deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.02 << 2 x 3ware RAID cards (1 in http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-1#309820 , 1 for smg spare and currently stored in orig packaging in the rack bilge )

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-01 17:59 ben_vulpes: yes sold

asciilifeform: !!invoice ben_vulpes 0.02 2 x 3ware RAID cards (1 in http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-1#309820 , 1 for smg spare and currently stored in orig packaging in the rack bilge )

deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.10813041 << http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-02#1807162

a111: Logged on 2018-05-02 00:40 asciilifeform: !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/piz_apr_parts.txt

asciilifeform: !!invoice ben_vulpes 0.10813041 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-02#1807162 ☝︎

asciilifeform: !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/piz_apr_parts.txt ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

mod6: diana_coman: We'll discuss and figure out what makes sense, will report back.

diana_coman: ben_vulpes, mod6 what's the price for a rockchip *with* fg as per asciilifeform's description above? ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( tho mebbe not, because one couldn't then http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/fg_typical.jpg )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly we oughta make the successor FG, in already the 'four holes of rpi3' form factor that rockchip has, so as to stack'em cleanly..

asciilifeform: ( i.e. they do not come with FG by default, but this is available as an option; interested folx should ping ben_vulpes & mod6 and inquire re price )

asciilifeform: mod6, mircea_popescu : they have not 1 but 2 uart's, already at ttl signal level, pretty much born to FG

lobbes: Ty asciilifeform for info. Ima bbl as well (leaving saltmines), but I'm sold. ben_vulpes: plox to invoice me for one quarter of rockchip box when you are able

asciilifeform: and afaik price is still same ( confirm with ben_vulpes & mod6 )

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6, that's actually... exactly the opposite of what i said! << I've got ya. I'm just gonna stay on this rawtx stuffs, I'm making ok progress atm.

asciilifeform: quasi-relatedly, asciilifeform found himself wondering, why we're still on fleanode... between pizarro, mircea_popescu's racked boxes ( idk where, but presumably good ones ? ) , asciilifeform's own fiber, trinque , etc. could have a very solid irc net, potentially ☟︎

mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks too for prodding me about Ada-vtron. I'll poke at it as I can, for sure.

a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 17:17 mod6: speaking of ada stuff. i did get horsecocks to compile just fine with the changes that were discussed previously with diana_coman

trinque: mircea_popescu: I am entirely willing to help esthlos finish his V

mod6: mircea_popescu: oh, betting against us or prb?

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hey mod6 how's your ada v coming along ? << Still stuck in the drawer. I haevn't even touched it since Q3 of 17. I'm distinctly intersted in rawtx tools getting into trb, currently.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1806945 << "did nasty things" is not a report ;/ << Yeah, my apologies, I'll re-do. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: speaking of which, his fix seems to work ( build still going , already got past where last barfed )

phf: mircea_popescu: well, we have examples of diana_coman etc. who manages to do republican work while "raising a baby and having a day time job". presumably this shit can somehow be scheduled and managed better, i.e. the fact that those things even need to be communicated is an organizational failure. some progress could be made.

a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 06:55 mircea_popescu: is the manifest issue fixed ? is the graphing done ? am i what, going to lose v now because i'm too polite to yell, and left to your own devices you're just going to break it, permanently, obscurely, and forget about it ? or what's the fucking logic here.

asciilifeform: mod6: the linked item was written in as illustration of 1 possible solution to problem posed by mircea_popescu and trinque , in re spuriously-independent patches creating misleading graph

lobbesbot: asciilifeform: Sent 8 hours and 46 minutes ago: <ave1> The gcc makefiles use gnatls to find the runtime system directory, they do 'gnatls -v | grep adalib'. When ADA_OBJECTS_PATH is set, that line will return two directories and the build fails. Could you past the output of gnatls -v? (I can fix it with an extra head or tail call, but that also seems fragile)

a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 04:33 mircea_popescu: how about a convention whereby all new genesises must contain a manifest.genesis file, which file will be constantly patched on each patchj, no exceptions, by adding a line which reads : "This is patch #x and the codebase hash is blabla".

a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 04:05 phf: trinque: it wouldn't, i believe there's an antecedent->dependency transformation issues (i.e. the transform in mod6 v is adhoc, so it can't handle the tricky antecedent graph). the approach hanbot used was to just use the patches from the left branch of the graph, until, per mircea_popescu's request, i write a general purpose v graph code.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-09 14:31 mircea_popescu: a right. hanbot do me a favour : download ~only~ those patches which are in the leftmost trunk seen on phf's viewer (so exclude vtools_vdiff_sha, and its dependents) and try to flow again ?

hanbot: mircea_popescu i noted several times in the last weeks/months phf was reporting pretty clearly what was being worked on, etas, etc, fwiw --eg http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-25#1789616 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1786023 . it's gotta be difficult to keep absolutely everything not only organized but also organizedly communicated, eh. ☝︎☝︎

lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: phf was last seen in #trilema 13 hours, 26 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <phf> “Happy Birthday, Karl Marx. You Were Right (nytimes.com)”

ave1: !Q later tell asciilifeform The gcc makefiles use gnatls to find the runtime system directory, they do 'gnatls -v | grep adalib'. When ADA_OBJECTS_PATH is set, that line will return two directories and the build fails. Could you past the output of gnatls -v? (I can fix it with an extra head or tail call, but that also seems fragile)

a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 19:58 mircea_popescu: aaand mpex is back via mpex.biz.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu : what sort of sv usg.corp would it be if it did not ( like e.g. crapple ) have own 'microkernel' abomination

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, There were a good number of times in January-February where my roommates for the night would be 7 identical argentine schoolgirls. They would sit in a circle and stare at their phones for hours, but at least they understand the importance of ventilation

a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 00:29 mircea_popescu: poor bb.

asciilifeform: not aware, but will have to take mircea_popescu's word for it, if he saw this.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: alf-aesthetics is a rough pass filter

asciilifeform: i hesitate to say 'none', possibly i agree with mircea_popescu's taste ~somewhere~

a111: Logged on 2018-03-30 03:40 mircea_popescu: and "peasant civilisation" as in mirvniki or the wooden civilisation that covered the hills of transylvania as late as the 1800s is "both must repress"

mircea_popescu: https://78.media.tumblr.com/e516da884d9237b8481e7875b18c642b/tumblr_neqjl7Hrbi1tgx3vwo1_1280.jpg << most unsoviet item.

mircea_popescu: https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w300_and_h450_bestv2/rkmYIFbK0ooOgkxMdCB1aJGWs4Y.jpg << - >> http://viola.bz/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Tatiana-Drubich-27.jpg

asciilifeform: ( oh hah apparently usgarchive has it, https://archive.org/details/Imperium_352 )

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in adolescentine sexual practices, https://78.media.tumblr.com/08351997b65cf2bae4b3bd7db3909986/tumblr_nprm26qbOO1tfjnbco1_400.gif aan https://78.media.tumblr.com/77eec18157f25e241c29246aa264ff32/tumblr_nprm26qbOO1tfjnbco3_400.gif

lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.

douchebag: hey mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in ~factory~ machinery, afaik the trend's been quite the opposite ( small manufacturers of ic existed in 1970s by the thousand, in 1980s -- by the hundred, today -- gone. ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doubtful, for same reason that electron microscope has not become any cheaper. high vacuum system is a bitch, and exactly same bitch today as in 1930.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 18:12 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i strongly suspect that 'polaroid' is the correct path. ( i.e. photographic input of where-what-goes; all of the chemistry needed -- sealed in a capsule, pops and exposes )

PeterL: mircea_popescu: I remember seeing sometime in the logs you said (but I can't find it now) something along the lines of: girls that have sex have cleaner smelling cunt than the one who doesn't get any?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly you have a handwritten mpex.biz entry in /etc/hosts and points to different box ?

ave1: As far as I can see, the culprit is this part "-I/opt/gnat/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.9.4/rts-native/adalib /opt/gnat/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.9.4/rts-native/adalib/../adainclude", It contains a space in the "-I", so now gnatmake thinks it needs to build an "adainclude" which will fail. I'll look into how these vars a set. (It's the ADA_INCLUDES flag in the makefile).

ave1: I've run on multiple systems (ubuntu and redhat), procedure has been to unpack the adacore binary file, set path and go (no ADA_*_PATH)

ave1: ADA_OBJECTS_PATH and ADA_INCLUDE_PATH

asciilifeform: ave1: i have http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/XzKdk/?raw=true in my .bash_profile ( actually identical on all of my gnat2016 boxen )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gotta have at least 1uM process, to be of practical use, by my reckoning

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i strongly suspect that 'polaroid' is the correct path. ( i.e. photographic input of where-what-goes; all of the chemistry needed -- sealed in a capsule, pops and exposes ) ☟︎

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806493 << now you know what a vagina feels like! << What about menopause? ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaaha. sorta like a high-tech version of it. or moar general phenomenon of 'easy to make $mil: begin with $bil..'

a111: Logged on 2017-10-16 15:59 mircea_popescu adds this to his private "annals of orc history", in there with the scottish empire at darien and stuffs.

asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu has a pretty good oubliette design on trilema a while bacj

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the well of knowledge, pushing the infinite boundaries of darkness towards their core that spawned them, i give you... WOMAN! https://78.media.tumblr.com/dfa482d3716c7dd79d85a2ccf8dcff60/tumblr_nraxucVa9S1ribksno9_1280.jpg

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in urban exploration, https://78.media.tumblr.com/f71ae9ad47441b6d9b2ae0f62a32a567/tumblr_nraxucVa9S1ribksno7_1280.jpg

asciilifeform: btw ave1 the only WITH_ARCH i see in your text is 'armv7'. so how does it work on aarch64 ?

asciilifeform: ave1: what's CC_BASE_PREFIX ?

ave1: yes, but on a different architecture, i.e. you can build aarch64 on x86_64

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my observation was moar re the 'field' than even the particular item.

ave1: I build it with gnatmake -Pffa_demo.gpr (I did this up to chapter 3 so far)

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re ic fabs, see also ancient thread http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-18#1023009 . ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 06:02 ben_vulpes: http://sam.zeloof.xyz/first-ic/# << 'garage' ic

a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 01:57 mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-29#1806228 << >> http://www.mod6.net/2018/April/30/phexdigit_post.txt >> http://www.mod6.net/2018/April/30/mod6_phexdigit_fix.vpatch >> http://www.mod6.net/2018/April/30/mod6_phexdigit_fix.vpatch.mod6.sig

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in canine optionality, https://78.media.tumblr.com/bcceef2dd0612935295d943140eec9e6/tumblr_mxls22UAN91sg5ujao1_1280.jpg

lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-04-30 06:58:50: <mircea_popescu> well, if pinochle fellow gets around to modeling it properly, we might even find out what they're worth!

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, can has for whole year plox ?

a111: Logged on 2018-04-24 18:35 deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu .0336 << shared hosting for s.mg april 24 2018 through april 30 2019

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-24#1805215 ☝︎

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if lobbes wants to run ircbot separately, without the logbot functionality, he could if he liked, and without taking a dependency on the logbot stuffs. 'tis why they're separate trees.

ben_vulpes: your listening process just needs to 'listen log_new_message' and then use whatever the wait-for-message abstraction is in the programming language for your responding service to wait for the primary key to come in, read that line out of the table and then either insert a response into outbox with the appropriate target or not as it chooses

a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 18:26 asciilifeform: you changed 'channel' slot in ircbot class to 'channels', but never bothered to change the corresponding line in make-ircbot !! ben_vulpes )

lobbes: anyone out there with a running instance of logbot-multiple-channels-corrected (ben_vulpes, danielpbarron)? I've run into the same issue alf was having >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758074 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-04-29 14:58 mircea_popescu: yes, it was. to summarize, careful what you do with your patches, in the following sense : if diana_coman doesn't CONTINUE your patch, it will have to be reground later. as she's a human being with other problems and interests than folding in your alt universe, it helps IMMENSELY if you make your patches small and readable.

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-29#1806228 << >> http://www.mod6.net/2018/April/30/phexdigit_post.txt >> http://www.mod6.net/2018/April/30/mod6_phexdigit_fix.vpatch >> http://www.mod6.net/2018/April/30/mod6_phexdigit_fix.vpatch.mod6.sig ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 16:38 ben_vulpes: pinochle: reg a key and build a name now, lest you build the thing and nobody uses it because who is this person

zx2c4: mircea_popescu: by the way ive wanted to dig this up for you the last two weeks and keep forgetting

mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the hunt, https://78.media.tumblr.com/e5283747bbee343037934ea4a76dd258/tumblr_n8hdf5XwZZ1qj6d3fo1_1280.jpg

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~would have~ offered 'lenin's writings on tensors', if stalin had not exterminated every likely perpetrator of this ( after http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1757902 incident ) ☝︎

mircea_popescu: and in further ai lulz, https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZisI2p_1xUR_19DlHwJnT0L_1Jcz3NLVMmQtJ3lUFkMeRIXF3BzZK-KmjBXXjqw9oxlUP7etH2IhGTaQtS-AodWDbe4itMmHc6wRfikU3LJTW5sVQ0wk-lpnU7-Wx_1PD0JcnbQHooBzm6ANzy4AY_1JU6VqnUq02l8y3or5oBZforK340aqIZlqsyA-rxmsxWrpJv4qWD34BoZYWirTzhpj_15k9qSQm1HqCxIk8GfgEYPsU3FMG0uQHcc3H-A4iGjDa_1K3uBF4tj7oTixZFoa3IlJBWNjxhU5KK4IQhmb1voc--YI1JJFGNxc-Kl4_1TQJlqcCkapnP11KseH91QVl9saKKswa1Tvjg&btnG

a111: Logged on 2018-04-23 22:05 mircea_popescu: !!key zx2c4

zx2c4: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-23#1804912 O_o ☝︎

esthlos: mircea_popescu: I will watch for that. Last thing I want to do is to waste anyone's time

mircea_popescu: yes, it was. to summarize, careful what you do with your patches, in the following sense : if diana_coman doesn't CONTINUE your patch, it will have to be reground later. as she's a human being with other problems and interests than folding in your alt universe, it helps IMMENSELY if you make your patches small and readable. ☟︎

esthlos: aha, so if I want to patch "as close to genesis as possible" the mpi lib, AND I want this patch to be used in diana_coman 's proggy, the ONLY choice is to patch current leaf of diana_coman 's proggy