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mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: laugh if you will, but that graph doesn't fit on my display << it kinda doesn't on my default width on my notebook either. i have to zoom out a bit to see the full thing. :/
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: and ought to be on the www << cool, added it under the links section for the time being. when I get the v documentation complete, etc, i'll create a section for V itself.
mod6: asciilifeform: ok, added the link colorization and a graph label
mod6: thanks for writing 'v' asciilifeform; i really love this thing.
mod6: i wanted to just to ensure that I understand everything going on in there. it's a decent exercise programatically, but I'm not much of a python guy.
mod6: i wanna see if I can add a mouse-over label or something to each node to whom has signed each vpatch. which I think, with adding a custom attribute or something, I can do.
mod6: cool, thx. once i get it polished up a bit, yeah, will link it.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> but they prolly ought to be blue/linkified << I'll see what I can do about this. It's at the node level. So the entire node itself is linkified. I'm just getting into all the things you can do with this Graph::Easy thing.
mod6: i dunno, gotta think on it a bit on how that would look -- might just be a mouse-over or "alt" type of attribute.
mod6: i think there is also some sort of mechanical way I can walk through my validated seals hash and perhaps somehow label the node who whom has signed.
mod6: there might be a way to do this still, just might be a bit deeper than i'ev looked so far.
mod6: that's why i initially liked it too! but alas, if you can't grow TB or BT, then it gets hairy at 80 cols.
mod6: yeah, i re-wrote v in perl, and it does all the traversing etc, then i build the graph with recursion and the Graph::Easy mod.
mod6: mircea_popescu: it might. im not exactly sure how graphviz does its magic.
mod6: so this can be automated, but some cleanup required. im just read that you can make clickable links -- gonna give it a shot.
mod6: only one part that could be automated i think; just dumped out the graphviz config to file, and then tweeked the `rankdir' to 'BT' for (bottom=>top) by hand. then just gotta run dot to generate the image.
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks :]
mod6: <+ascii_field> see if you can make the patch names clickable links << i'll see what I can do. thx.
mod6: as far as the 'experimental' patches, i agree about the 'maxint_locks' patch.... maybe there's a better word than experimental. and, anyway, this will all change soon anyhow, so not sure how urgent it is.
mod6: ah. yeah, i'll have to play around with the format, etc. we'll see if i can make it happen. maybe?
mod6: deedbot.org white & black now 'eh
mod6 to bed, have a nice evening all.
mod6: I created this basic svg graph map of all vpatches to modified files. lol, thing is huge. ridiculous looking.
mod6: thx, havin some fun :]
mod6: whereas v0.5.3.1 has no disclaimer contained within, TEST2 does have a bit of a warning the README.txt file. So perhaps the warning could go away.
☟︎ mod6: lemme find it in the b-a logs.
mod6: asciilifeform: at one point ben and I discussed a 'warning' or 'disclaimer' because mp asked us to put something up there iirc
mod6: asciilifeform: basic disclaimer.
mod6: neat, got antecedents and descendants working.
mod6: what's all that about?
mod6: you just can't help it, if you were born retarded. you know?
mod6: ;;later tell asciilifeform ignore my previous message. I'm retarded.
mod6: yeah. well, its pretty far along.
mod6: ok no nevermind. i think its fine.
mod6: you know... actually, i think im still on to something here... i just didn't mean 'asciilifeform_and_now_we_have_eatblock.vpatch', ... but im going back over all of this again. the paste above & stuff was brain fart.
mod6: i think i've been staring at this for too long haha.
mod6: asciilifeform: im mentally retarded. nevermind. lol.
mod6: ;;later tell asciilifeform I've been testing/looking at 'v' quite a bit. Re-implementing on my own for better/full understanding (since I'm not a python guy). I'm confused about why here 'asciilifeform_and_now_we_have_eatblock.vpatch' is not listed as a descendant of mod6_fix_dumpblock_params.vpatch :
http://dpaste.com/08X2Q6P.txt mod6: <+trinque> hanbot: sorry to hear that; wish him a speedy recovery << yeah! send him our well-wishes.
mod6: <+shinohai> Nice work mod6 << ty
mod6: ;;later tell asciilifeform website updated.
mod6: shinohai: yeah sure, i'll get you all setup again with cukes, rotor, V, etc.
mod6: this weekend I'll get you sorted with stuff that you need for experiments.
mod6: just busted into your place? did they get a copy of your PGP key?
mod6: (15:05) <+shinohai> came home to find lappy stolen, need copies of our previous experiments. << oh no!
mod6: bring ur pgp key next time! :]
mod6: <+analmaster> why boxes << oh, yeah it is im sure, but i heard that if you're short on horizontal planting space, you can do the boxes and get them to grow vertically so you can produce more in a smaller space. maybe I'm wrong though?
mod6: I wanna build some potato boxes for next year too, at least, give it a try. Was going to do that this year, but ... got too busy.
mod6: not a bad idea. ima try that next year if I see 'em. year before didn't see any!
mod6: yeah, im up near minneapolis
mod6: apparently, "asian beetles" or something. they were fucking all over the leaves of the cukes, zucchs and rasberries. little bastards.
mod6: 60 days of melons tho, that's some fortitude right there.
mod6: had 22 plants haha.
mod6: im a gardening n00b. i grew two zucchinis. my cucumber plants died. i did get 1 metric fuckton of tomatoes tho.
mod6: +1 solid nick & job offer
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: hence why i asked. << it's been on my mind lately. thanks for prodding me.
mod6: <asciilifeform> please consider updating therealbitcoin www to include the actually usable version thereof ? << The only reason I'm holdin' back here is we don't have a certified release as of yet. Will consider putting up v0.5.4-TEST2
mod6: Well, one thing I don't want is a persistant store of the parents and children of a given patch. I want it to read it fresh everytime so ensure things aren't diddled or cosmic-ray'd or just stale or something. Not sure if that's what was changed on punkmans side. But I want the one that I use to do all of this in one shot.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> rich has ~the option~ of ignoring. << yah, & alarm clock, job, et al.
mod6: not that they're not good info, or good signals in a market place. but if you go shopping and have to think about weather you can afford to buy something, you're not rich.
mod6: i agree with ascii; if you have to look at the price tags, you're not rich.
mod6: dow was up 293 points today. im sure they use the circut breakers just as much when price movements are to the upside.
mod6: are you still trying to find MSM articles on that? i dug one up from bbc earlier...
mod6: oh yeah, they tried to pass all that through a while back.
mod6: everyone has these id cards?
mod6: asciilifeform: understandable.
mod6: im simply amazed that you can sit on that beltway everyday. that stuff was bananaballs.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> tho they have nfi about dairy. << that one italian place had some decent cheese iirc... but perhaps it was imported.
mod6: mircea_popescu: one thing about food in b-a, it's amazing how good /real/ food tastes! lol.