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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform isn't it interesting how agricultural applicaiton ends up giving an anti-intellectual sheen to ANYTHING it touches. << anti-intellectual sheen is part of the appeal of having named castle thusly, scares those who need it.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759406 << guaranteed no-go. it's rather like trying to sew a squirrel into a rat skin and expect it to live happily as rat. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 00:29 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758743 << this historically worked CONSIDERABLY better than 'let's throw the reddit toilet into reverse gear and see what crawls out of the pipe'

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758896 << i have this vague memory that both phf and trinque were originally introduced in this sense by ben_vulpes ; whereas you were introduced similarily by hanbot. by comparison the pantsuit "evidently correct & only method" of herdemocracy has produced a whole lot of indiancandies and other self-choice delusionists. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759388 << see also lulthread >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1703064 ☝︎☝︎

BingoBoingo: https://www.macstadium.com/colo/#dcselect << Was a finalist I considered $35/month for small machine

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, the fresh blood you (and trinque ) pumped in trb ecosystem made a lot of secondary nodes gain lots of speed too. << Aha, since the aggressing started and some trb nodes changed ver string my nodes have had an easier time staying at the tip

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BigTexasBingo: ever seen this photo : https://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/0/6/6/5346660.jpg ? << Not until now

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> !~later tell BingoBoingo where was that hoster that'll host peculiarly small boxes , that you were using back in the day ? i have a buncha http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754247 that fit exactly those dimensions << I looked at "Mac Stadium" but ended up going with Joe's Datacenter before the payment portion of Joe's website went full NameCheap retard. ☝︎

asciilifeform: 'Real price of bitcoin could be $0.00, warns Morgan Stanley' << didjaknow.

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/fowAf << from samerag, moarlulz

shinohai: http://archive.is/vAfjT <<< now THIS is the lulziest thing, to me, of the entire week. ☟︎☟︎

shinohai: http://archive.is/VuSSm <<< Autists literally made this happen. Their logo is a fidget spinner, ffs

a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 00:26 shinohai: http://archive.is/EwgIC <<< US must wire $5000 via western union before the sale can proceed tho

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759288 << bwahahaha right on,\ ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759277 << any actual history of bitcoin, as opposed to the usual "and then hillary clinton really won the elections and global warming etcetera" ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759271 << please do. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759338 << dog very much perceives the flea. just like zek perceives the louse. but what exactly is he to do? either of them. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759241 << it's not altogether clear to me soviet union wasn't continued exactly in the spirit and direction of "the great father". ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759237 << have you ever wondered, like prepubescent mp wondered, why all these various animals on nature show never fucking kill the parasytes like you'd squish a flea ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759236 << the problem is rather the ability to tell people [as a fine example, one's own sons] that they have failed miserably, and here's the small stiletto that'll wash somewhat of the miserable stain they placed on your name. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759229 << jesus christ clucking in algebra on that clunker of a kbd... ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759209 << no fucking way it's that old. 2000s item ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759208 << i consider it perfectly acceptable ; if crapple software were improved to swallow 100% of their luserbase's output as opposed to merely 1% or w/e it is now it'd be even more acceptable. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: can offer it in the logotron as a [?] item, ie message is "blablabla http://someu" and next line goes "rl.com/hurddurr" and your log shows the line as "blablabla http://someu [ http://someurl.com/hurddurr ?]" or perhaps in shorter format, "blablabla http://someu [<a href=http://someurl.com/hurddurr>?</a>]"

a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 17:14 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759185 << i sometimes wonder if there's some clever way to link back split posts (i mean in cases where urls are lost, perhaps by looking at cases where 250 byte message, followed by same person within ~~<3s or somesuch)

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759198 << look at cases where a message that overflows the buffer has the last word leading by http of any line and the first word of the next line include any / ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759179 << when i use it, i mean that my foremost node is ahead by delta. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-12 15:42 asciilifeform: meanwhile in pinoy spamola, http://peltebesining.tk/giwe/asic-bitcoin-miner-schematic-1634.php << image-embeds asciilifeform's lispm keyboard schematic as 'asic miner' . bonus : if loaded via archive.is, gives entirely ~different~ spamola, prolly based on ip block

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in an apparent imitation of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749817 : http://destery.info/cidal/mpex-bitcoin-nupe.php <<< aaaaand, very similarly, returns ENTIRELY different turd to archive.is. orig. screenshitted, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpex_flavoured_spamola.jpg for posterity. ☝︎

shinohai: http://archive.is/EwgIC <<< US must wire $5000 via western union before the sale can proceed tho ☟︎

lobbes: <asciilifeform> [19:42:10] in other vintage heathen lulz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_bitcoin apparently. << "Before disappearing from any involvement in bitcoin, Nakamoto in a sense handed over the reins to developer Gavin Andresen" lol, didjaknow?

phf: the other thing that i wanted to do is add xref for those inline quotes `phf: asciilifeform: grrrrr ... << kek` that people like to do

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759185 << i sometimes wonder if there's some clever way to link back split posts (i mean in cases where urls are lost, perhaps by looking at cases where 250 byte message, followed by same person within ~~<3s or somesuch) ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://www.worldtruth.mx/mathematics/link-id_34145/ << pinoys neversleep(tm)(r)

asciilifeform: in other lulzy backlinx from asciilifeform's www, http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2944&p=57778#p57778 << 6502 enthusiasts , presumably some were not awake in the '80s-'90s , try to rederive carry-bit formula. d00d links asciilifeform's. which is hilarious because on what, do you suppose, asciilifeform originally studied...

deedbot: 2017/12/22 02:03:16 <esthlos> BingoBoingo: yes, I think it's time for that

deedbot: diana_coman rated esthlos 1 << He seems to really want to learn.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759152 << not up to 'tip' yet. it did walk 3000+ blox in the night, however. which before patch sometimes took week+. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758978 << waaay ahead of the wake, wildman! ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758974 << very much so ; and especially on a blog. there's utterly nothing wrong with being wrong, and discover it over time, especially if gracious about it. not like you sign the damned things, nor like the distinction isn't very fucking clear a a matter of public policy. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758965 << this is exactly what's discussed in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758702 : only way to recover code in a heretic patch (ie, one you're not pressing upon) is to literally lift it and include it. ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759045 << correct, misspelled. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 01:41 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758909 << if vtronic software is the same frayed rope, no one can ever modularize within the same v-tree. this may be a feature.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758945 << explain what modularize means here ? ☝︎

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754425 << worth linking again. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 21:22 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758679 << to my mind this suggests the hashes present in vpatch blocks are wrong. if they were rather the hash of the entire concatenation of the diffed item before and after applying that block, there'd be no need to pointlessly edit files to continue on the same branch.

a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 00:46 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758883 << sure. in the sense blockchain is frayed rope, this also.

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758909 << if vtronic software is the same frayed rope, no one can ever modularize within the same v-tree. this may be a feature. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 00:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758901 << what's the problem with a "wasted" FZ anyway

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758913 << it's not the wasted 8kbit or whatnot ( though on e.g. fpga, that's real waste that you can take to the bank...) but the ~ugliness~ ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 00:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758864 << you engage in a category error. you don't know what's in the box BEFORE opening the box.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758907 << the reason engineering is even possible , is that it is not necessary to open ~every~ box. sometimes can form quite accurate picture without spending whole life opening boxes, eating every rotten egg top to bottom etc ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758819 << she kinda got sent off for NOT being looking dedicatedly enough ; then she got pissy because i imagine in her dumb head she had self-delusions as to self-importance as dear as they were baseless. << Ah, gets BTC once returns years later and has less sense and more ideas ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758901 << what's the problem with a "wasted" FZ anyway ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 00:28 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758753 << i misread : 'platypus'. wouldn't be surprised...

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758894 << portobello not pleurotus anyway. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 00:23 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758779 << i see e.g. trb tree, as the frayed end of a rope. in long term, observe, the loose ends that dun get built on -- fade away, like orphan chains. btc is actually more or less same kind of system. but iirc we had this thread.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758883 << sure. in the sense blockchain is frayed rope, this also. ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758864 << you engage in a category error. you don't know what's in the box BEFORE opening the box. ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1758859 << gotta get SOME filtering process in place though ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758681 << if there existed anything like a market in (reasonably recent) miners -- they'd already be installed at the plant, in place of those gigantic resistors . ( and iirc there was a mircea_popescu thread, involving e.g. fish ponds ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758743 << this historically worked CONSIDERABLY better than 'let's throw the reddit toilet into reverse gear and see what crawls out of the pipe' ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758753 << i misread : 'platypus'. wouldn't be surprised... ☝︎☟︎

MTW: [16:55:48] <+trinque> danielpbarron: your boy MTW all set?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758770 << this is not unlike poking out one of your eyes to save on eyeglasses cost. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758779 << i see e.g. trb tree, as the frayed end of a rope. in long term, observe, the loose ends that dun get built on -- fade away, like orphan chains. btc is actually more or less same kind of system. but iirc we had this thread. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: and how big will be the vtron ? mine was <400 lines. imho this is worth something. and every feature added, comes at a cost.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758790 << this'd eat away substantially at the human-readability of the vpatch. which imho is a key property. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758781 << this only oughta be done in 2 situations -- 'releases' , as discussed by mod6 et al ; and to avoid fuckuppy as seen in orig shiva patch, where there was a logical dependence , but not a vtronic one , b/w shiva-part1 and -part2 ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758789 << ben_vulpes if you look at phf's patch tree graphical viewer, you will realize how asciilifeform solved this problem ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758788 >> 'The founder also promised that in addition to the common practice of crediting BTC holders with equivalent balances of the new coin (B2X), they would also receive “a proportional number of Satoshi Nakamoto’s Bitcoins as a reward for their commitment to progress.”' << lol!! ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758809 << i gotta ask : why ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 23:02 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758790 << especially in the light of 1. move/rename 2. edit double-patch method this seems more and more like the right thing ; but then again what to do of regrinds ? regrind should ideally be "one patch out of many"

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758834 << it is not clear to me why the current scheme ( leaving aside the idiocies of unix diff/patch, in particular the file moves thing ) is not satisfactory. i dun subscribe to the 'force beauty through mechanism' school of thought. it is the job of the patch author to make it behave acceptably in the target vtree, ~before~ releasing. and failures are of the author, not of the mechanicals. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758839 << asciilifeform did a bit of survey of the sw spectrum ( where he lives , but also elsewhere, via helpful public toilet ip-streamed receivers. ) plenty of digital ???? in'ere. incl. in places where none 'ought', Officially, to be. but 1) could just as easily be usg 2) it's all, definitionally, carriered signal, or asciilifeform would never have learned of it ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758841 << the real mega-puzzler is , what if anything are they capable of that is of any use whatsoever. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758819 << she kinda got sent off for NOT being looking dedicatedly enough ; then she got pissy because i imagine in her dumb head she had self-delusions as to self-importance as dear as they were baseless. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758815 << do it in castellan, maximum lulz. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758811 << how's danielpbarron 's radio voice ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758800 << this was re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758556 ☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758790 << especially in the light of 1. move/rename 2. edit double-patch method this seems more and more like the right thing ; but then again what to do of regrinds ? regrind should ideally be "one patch out of many" ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758784 << true. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 17:52 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch?

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758679 << to my mind this suggests the hashes present in vpatch blocks are wrong. if they were rather the hash of the entire concatenation of the diffed item before and after applying that block, there'd be no need to pointlessly edit files to continue on the same branch. ☝︎☟︎☟︎

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758742 <<< Implying I don't already do this ..... ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758679 << the ~only way to fix a tree that has diverged is to regrind that portion of the divergence you intend to keep. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758666 << speaking of, /me saw fox something-or-the-other over at whorehouse/steakhouse yest. they had a chick with an ass/waist/boob range that was iiincredible, and then had her act like a retarded 12yo playing pattycake and whatnot with the blondy they had paired her up with. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758647 << better than average, let's put it that way. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758644 << what's your daddy DO HIMSELF ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 01:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758589 << i don't get what the problem is. write a patch that modifies the filebase into the shape you want it to be. what's the problem ?

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch? ☝︎☟︎☟︎

deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/26/other-assorted-trivia-on-navidad-in-uruguay/ << Bingo Blog - Other Assorted Trivia On Navidad In Uruguay

shinohai: http://archive.is/5AOg5 << Run moar prb ... "I dont know how i got hacked, i use my laptop just for coldstorage, i turn it on and all my BTC are gone."

shinohai: http://archive.is/LBEfk << Wonder if I can get a discount if I use Prime.

deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/26/as-it-turns-out-fireworks-do-not-photograph-well-navidad-in-the-land-of-tranquility/ << Bingo Blog - As It Turns Out Fireworks Do Not Photograph Well: Navidad In The Land Of Tranquility

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-hippopotamus/ << Trilema - The Hippopotamus

a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 00:25 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758144 << comment stuck in spam queue?