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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774891 << and why is it you don't remember ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774882 << great blog fodder in any case. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774880 << communism was harsh but at least it kept the idiots down. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:59 spyked: re naggum article, "programming is both similar and different. whether you are a user or a programmer these days is often hard to tell (this has good qualities to it, too)" <-- this user/programmer dichotomy being a direct consequence of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774116 maybe? ftr, /me started with a microcomputer and first thing he could do with it, by nature, was program it. even if the "program" consisted merely of LOAD ""

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774869 << no, it's because the boys wanted to grab ass so they introduced the punched card to have a reason to hire a buncha secretaries. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:53 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774737 << btw, ty ben_vulpes for writing this article. After I get archive .zip delivery up and running I will be taking time to get my castle in order. This will include: 1) learning 'v' 2) get a working trb 3) testing my damn fgs already 4) ffa chapter 1 (at least)

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774866 <<< epic. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774865 << what is the fucking alternative, if you're not the sort that can shoot someone in the head, all point blank and cool as shit ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:29 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774654 <-- from my experience, learning for a purpose can lead to a personal place of misery. consider http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/ ; if anything, rather study computing *because* people who know computer systems are needed today (hard to believe they won't be needed tomorrow either) than for any imagined fame and glory. the romantic image of pentester belongs only to "hacker" movies

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774857 << speaking of this, it occured to me earlier in teh car that if the current "intelligent car ; self drives" trend continue (as it doubtless will), the net result will in short order be a standardization of curves. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774856 << loller. this, btw, VERY much a thing. i dunno how they survive, but if i wanted to make a life as a thief here, easily could. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 16:37 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774669 << if you're in usa or europistan, that's a 'staying above water' wage, nobody's retiring on that, 'early' or late or otherwise

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774819 << he's like 19 and in chicago. this was in the logs! ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774802 << nah, he got his phd years ago iirc. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:36 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750682 << in retrospect, regarding the matter cooly and with the disinterest of old age, i can affirm that this is ~the only important and enduring portion of computing as an education tool in my life. it's what feeds eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749457 and everything in between ands up to that : the 6yo mp's discovery that there exists a numeric universe underneath, and that it's t

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751003 << the commodore thread ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774932 << this is an actual problem. ☝︎

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774783 << "org mode", i haven't found else with which to htmlize coad ☝︎☟︎

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774643 << you've been tricked, there's two kinds of pentesters: "modern" ones, which are basically a security equivalent of a coder, they are taught how to use nessus and metasploit effectively so that their parent company can charge $x for a regulatory assurance "penntesting performed, following findings communicated and addressed" ☝︎

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774622 << this was left non-deliberately, but it's a safe change. safer than having /bin/bash there. /bin/sh is posix, so any unix is going to have ~something~ there. on this freebsd machine /bin/sh is a pure posix shell, while bash lives in /usr/local/bin/bash ☝︎

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YwTUK/?raw=true << Wire information with the name and number to throw in the notes

spyked: re naggum article, "programming is both similar and different. whether you are a user or a programmer these days is often hard to tell (this has good qualities to it, too)" <-- this user/programmer dichotomy being a direct consequence of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774116 maybe? ftr, /me started with a microcomputer and first thing he could do with it, by nature, was program it. even if the "program" consisted merely of LOAD "" ☝︎☟︎

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774737 << btw, ty ben_vulpes for writing this article. After I get archive .zip delivery up and running I will be taking time to get my castle in order. This will include: 1) learning 'v' 2) get a working trb 3) testing my damn fgs already 4) ffa chapter 1 (at least) ☝︎☟︎

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774654 <-- from my experience, learning for a purpose can lead to a personal place of misery. consider http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/ ; if anything, rather study computing *because* people who know computer systems are needed today (hard to believe they won't be needed tomorrow either) than for any imagined fame and glory. the romantic image of pentester belongs only to "hacker" movies ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:18 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774633 <-- --> https://ocw.cs.pub.ro/courses/cns ; shameless plug, I wrote some of the materials there. but ftr, I completely agree with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774650 "security research" actually involves understanding systems; then only then e.g. the fundamental weakness of "C machines" becomes apparent.

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774633 <-- --> https://ocw.cs.pub.ro/courses/cns ; shameless plug, I wrote some of the materials there. but ftr, I completely agree with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774650 "security research" actually involves understanding systems; then only then e.g. the fundamental weakness of "C machines" becomes apparent. ☝︎☝︎☟︎

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774802 <-- neh, I'm freshly outta PhD; and outta teaching since late 2016, but still doing that occasionally, mostly for the 1-10% of students who appreciate the beating. ☝︎

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773844 <-- thank you, trinque! ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774749 << as a rule, if you NEVER byte-address, you can ignore endianism ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774662 << exactly this. some people grasp the lesson after reading ; some -- after 1, 2, 3, however many failed corps and debts and 100% wasted productive years of life and etc ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774669 << if you're in usa or europistan, that's a 'staying above water' wage, nobody's retiring on that, 'early' or late or otherwise ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774654 << if being a 'they are REQUIRED to hire an X' X doesn't turn yer stomach, there are more lucrative usg.bureaucracies than the seekoority racket ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774652 << http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-06#1044114 + http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-06#1044115 ☝︎☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774643 << this is a terrible idea. it is a tournament market. and by all indications (i.e. yer asking the q) , you're trying to join it as an adult. which promises to be a double-width shitsandwich. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774634 << it's a 'learn by doing' item ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774633 << '9000' places to learn. e.g. the amd manual. or just about any www page on subj. or there's now even an apress b00k, iirc 'low-level programming', that's ~ok . or , or ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how much did that thing take ? << site takes 1%, arrangements took little time to make

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> contract number, something. does your contract have a number ? << Asking. I have my registration number, but I am asking them for clarity.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774768 << i must confess, very curious re what a 800bux network switch is ☝︎

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774613 << Will compile ☝︎

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774611 << Arranging trades today to test the waters. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774593 << This has been a particularly painful lesson and an expensive one with respect to time. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774614 << I have never seen a wire. I will intinsify my effort to suck less. I am trying to learn without falling into the outcome where we write this off as a learning experience. ☝︎

trinque: douchebag: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-27#1648758 << maybe a thread for ya. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 15:23 deedbot: http://107.170.141.103/2018/vdiff-fixes/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - vdiff fixes

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774125 << Good Evening TMSR. I have followed the steps here, and repeated the given steps with the expected results. Which looks good! I have also done a bit of additional testing on this vdiff change with a local vpatch created with the original, and the new, and then comparing the output vpatches. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Knj0f/?raw=true ☝︎

shinohai: http://archive.is/3uTCK <<< "We have investors that pay us to throw car show. I took funds and invest in BITCONNECT in DEC 2017. They run wit money n I dunno what to do."

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> a circa 2008 box, for >8x what i paid for a dulap-class opteron cum ssd raid << Has two of last year's http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-EPYC%207251.html and 128 GB of RAM, I am asking for a list but if you could forward some spec'd by alf suggestions it could be helpful.

a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 22:00 ben_vulpes: http://www.industryweek.com/labor-employment-policy/german-union-steps-fight-modern-28-hour-workweek << "gimme moar!"

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774473 << the problem is there's not what to have them do for even 14 hours a week. there's just too many of them, they're just too fucking useless, and they literally expect to live better than their parents. nuttery of the sort wasn't encountered ever since people on sunken titanic expected waltz to sound just as good underwater!!! ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774471 << youtube clips sure as fuck cost. ended publishing just about. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-27#812096 << there is that. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774453 << bwahahaha << I think that was a RagnarDanneskjol thing ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774453 << bwahahaha ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 20:24 asciilifeform: in other oddities from asciilifeform's wwwtron referlog : http://armoredcoin.org << anybody here wants to confess to authorship of this ? it claims interop with trb , compliance with asciilifeform's '7laws' , etc

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774415 << this is mildly interesting. who dun it ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 01:14 BingoBoingo: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/3nbdH/?raw=true << Sample beefy machine 8328 including everything but the 22% VAT, Apparently per unit price comes down quite a bit ordered in quanity. They haven't been able to find refurb suppliers. Going to send solicitations to local "Gamer" oriented computer shops about importing shit from Newegg et all

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774519 << this is brainmeltingly ludicrously overpriced ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774412 << you know ? especially on some particularly salient salients that lend themselves well to articlization. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 01:07 mircea_popescu: holy shit https://gpg4win.org/get-gpg4win.html << paywalled nao ?!

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774512 << 'zero' button seems to work ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774401 << and this is why i have nfi what to do about it, he evidently understands, just through a very tortured process. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/3nbdH/?raw=true << Sample beefy machine 8328 including everything but the 22% VAT, Apparently per unit price comes down quite a bit ordered in quanity. They haven't been able to find refurb suppliers. Going to send solicitations to local "Gamer" oriented computer shops about importing shit from Newegg et all ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 19:34 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774395 << what i don't understand is how i can have the same conversation ~with ascii~ over and over again and still he'd be repeating the same original stuff. i don't think it's a question of my blog here, unless you're saying that me saying things in log have no merit because i don't have a blog post to back it up with. this is a novel take by the way, because log used to be canon

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774399 << entirely separate concerns. as to 1, yes, we all have repeated conversations with alf in this vein, i dunno what exactly to do about it ; 2. the quality of your killshot was poor, and it is my theory that this is because the sort of topic would greatly benefit from the cohesive power of an article ; nothing to do with log not being canon, but a matter of collected convenience. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: holy shit https://gpg4win.org/get-gpg4win.html << paywalled nao ?! ☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774190 << this has such a great ring to it. ☝︎

shinohai: http://archive.is/dmaBV <<< tariffs on solar panels lmao

BingoBoingo: <deedbot> http://trilema.com/2018/challenge-accepted/ << Trilema - Challenge accepted! << Like my Spanish, my camera foo requires work

a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 15:23 deedbot: http://107.170.141.103/2018/vdiff-fixes/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - vdiff fixes

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774125 << lovely! is this the new you phf ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774109 << plouffe! ☝︎

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/challenge-accepted/ << Trilema - Challenge accepted!

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774078 << you don't say! ☝︎

shinohai: https://gpg4win.org/download.html <<< without the `www`

shinohai: http://archive.is/fVvBX <<< Guess I'm gonna have to patent VC spray for Conbase, they are making so much money.

ben_vulpes: http://www.industryweek.com/labor-employment-policy/german-union-steps-fight-modern-28-hour-workweek << "gimme moar!" ☟︎

jhvh1: asciilifeform: Seachoice @ gmail.com : Shannon Morrisey, United States: <https://domainbigdata.com/gmail.com/mj/fJbR9CShO6LwjGplwSQadw>; SeaChoice - FIS - Suppliers - Company Details: <http://www.fis.com/fis/companies/details.asp%3Fl%3De%26company_id%3D160670>; Seachoice 15' Wht Nylon Dock Line - Free Shipping On Orders Over ...: (1 more message)

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774420 << as i see it, it's an attempt to 'cardanocoin', i.e. quietly barnacle on tmsr ☝︎

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774169 <- cheers! ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 17:36 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773923 << well, i suspect they're countrymen. weren't they both from lebanon or somesuch ?

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774215 <- they probably are, yes; still an ugly sight if not worse ☝︎

BingoBoingo: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/01/18/datacenter-costs/#comment-114568 << The contracted numbers for the curious

asciilifeform: in other oddities from asciilifeform's wwwtron referlog : http://armoredcoin.org << anybody here wants to confess to authorship of this ? it claims interop with trb , compliance with asciilifeform's '7laws' , etc ☟︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 18:54 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774030 << he has a point you know ; there's A LOT of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760917 because significant impedance mismatch between phf state and phf blog.

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774395 << what i don't understand is how i can have the same conversation ~with ascii~ over and over again and still he'd be repeating the same original stuff. i don't think it's a question of my blog here, unless you're saying that me saying things in log have no merit because i don't have a blog post to back it up with. this is a novel take by the way, because log used to be canon ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774030 << he has a point you know ; there's A LOT of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760917 because significant impedance mismatch between phf state and phf blog. ☝︎☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774019 << this leaves one wondering ; hey caaddr how long did you actually spend reading the logs ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774008 << this goes right into stream processor as opposed to cpu and all that. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773999 << it's not clear that this separate-and-oh-so-different-this-time attempt to implement dwim has any more merit than any of the previous ones. for as long as i can't say "paperclip, write the novel i feel inside of me", you can't say "software transformation compiler". ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773988 << aaaaahahaha, yeah, i totally wanna see this for a gnat. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773977 << this incidentally is a very cogent objection. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773976 << it's not automatically clear this situation is unpleasant. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773970 << so you will ~actually~ not build on his patch, forcing him to maintain an alt tree if at all ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 02:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719939 << pretty much 100% of present day "us tech" "industree" etc is built on bait and switch.

mircea_popescu: one day eric raymond came to mp and said "given enough eyes, all bugs are shallow" ; mp extended him the can of beluga roe he was dipping into : "here you go, a whole <<<new software movement>>>". eric raymond never understood what just happened.

BingoBoingo: <caaddr> what if there had been a multipart guide to building your own phuctor from scratch, *without* revealing the end purpose of the software until the end? would that have attracted more or less commentary? << No one wants to read more random python

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773933 << you know alf, it occurs to me ffa actually attracted a lot more intelligent commentary than phuctor's results. fucking_unexpected.gif. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773923 << well, i suspect they're countrymen. weren't they both from lebanon or somesuch ? ☝︎☟︎

trinque: caaddr: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/t3aUb/?raw=true << deedbot was only given a signing key, it appears, not an encrypting key.