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esthlos:
phf: oh yes, the dynabook, you're right
esthlos:
phf: I think he wanted to build something for adults, but his work at apple disillusioned him, american adults too retarded for multiple desktops etc. so then yeah, pedo phase
mircea_popescu:
phf amusingly, this is a ~type~, like the 90s academic in the pepit jacket with the square bag slung over shoulder.
esthlos:
phf: you know, about a year ago I wrote Alan Kay asking wtf happened to computing since the days of darpa and xerox parc. his response was "funding now sux"
mircea_popescu:
phf trying to whittle down the "ide" vs "wm" dispute. multithreading is a major point here.
mircea_popescu:
phf nah, this is a dumb approach. nevermind "what version", first and foremost, "what do we want here"
mircea_popescu:
phf i have nfi what you're doing. this is what this opening of the pandora box is all about, trying to grok it once.
mircea_popescu:
phf and i'm a troglodyte for thinking this isn't right ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 17:36
phf: there's also the thing that emacs started as a lisp machine tool with a certain set of binding and behavioral conventions, and then slowly moved away from those conventions towards "user come to expect". we can't even talk about consistency here because things change drastically from v19 to current v25. e.g. <return> is newline <control-j> is newline and indent. but these days "everyone" expects return to newline and indent so the change has been globa
mircea_popescu:
phf the problem there is, that if a cut can't be identified, why are we even doing this.
mircea_popescu:
phf yes; but amusingly asciilifeform doesn't admit this. somehow.
mircea_popescu:
phf can you reduce this short leg metaphore to a strict example ?
mircea_popescu:
phf explain it to me again, why should it be abandoned ?
mircea_popescu:
phf we will have to somehow resolve this issue, because neither of the current outcomes is seemly. having republicans use the google drive systemd website thing is idiotic ; taking people's shit is idiotic. wut do.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 17:02 mircea_popescu: well... how would you feel about forking emacs,
phf ?
mircea_popescu: and
phf is quite ripe for a major signature project like that ; eulora dun seem to interest him, so...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
phf in any case it's high time emacs is either dropped or published.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 01:32 asciilifeform:
phf: speaking of which, consider the easiest winner , if the anti-patch condition is absent -- a google shitmonkey who knows the hole already and 'wins' on the monday right prior to patch tuesday.
trinque:
phf, Mocky, and others waiting on cuntoo, the genesis.vpatch which contains only the ebuilds necessary for a minimal system is about 4mb.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 18:26
phf: asciilifeform: they burn the seeds, and then overbrew the drink, and it's exactly that "come to expect". girl worked in a coffee shop, but having been exposed to good coffee she brews it "soft", and lots of people complained that it's "watery". of course there was also a group of european expats that religiously came every morning
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 18:12
phf: their solution to shit coffee is putting milk and syrups (see also "bulletproof coffee"), kind of like the solution to poor soil and bad farming practices is to put "dressing" on vegetables
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 18:09
phf: asciilifeform: americans are uncomfortable with own butts. "enema" is a european concept that only freaky health nut anorexic girls are into..
ben_vulpes:
phf: is "seeds" a ru-ism or are "beans" an usgism
a111: Logged on 2018-06-15 19:50 asciilifeform: speaking of h1 ,
phf didja get a working snake ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but that leaves us unfettered to take on your unfactual feeling. why oh why, my dear
phf, would you get such feelings ? hm ? HMMMM ?
diana_coman:
phf, well, it brings an existing project to the point from where it can be further changed/developed correctly; with respect to the past it makes now explicit the intended order (which existed anyway but was previously less strictly enforced meaning on branches and when those are brought together only)
mircea_popescu:
phf but it can continue thenceforth correctly can it ?
trinque: a111, put
phf's vodka down!
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 19:54
phf: heh, the kommuniti consensus around recent intel bugs is "don't do crypto on cpu, that's what tpm is for"
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 17:44
phf: asciilifeform: i suspect chromeos partner console is on a need to have basis. if it's just oem partners, then i'm out of luck, but if there's some flexibility there, then yes, there are official channels
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 16:56
phf: asciilifeform: i think you _might've_ misunderstood the thread. the point seem to have been not so much that the whole attempt is pointless, but it's the framing that was questionable. if you make a couple of snakes and send them at own expense to interested l1/l2, i don't see how it won't be worthwhile. we just don't have any idle reversers, who want to take a stab at it for the lulz, available at the moment.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:08 asciilifeform:
phf: i need an arbiter so as to give players some amt of confidence that rules will not change underneath them.
mircea_popescu:
phf, "bounty $100 paid for any information of whereabouts of dangerous criminal, except if he shoots the police and escapes"
mircea_popescu: it's perfectly possible google just fixed it on their own. and now you want
phf to decide this somehow ? fucking how ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:07 asciilifeform: after $time ,
phf goes and buys, from amazon, a c101pa , and administers the pill. if it is cured just the same as his current one, the other half of prize is to be awarded.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:06 asciilifeform:
phf: correct, full overwrite of whole 256kB fw space with arbitrary bits . repeatably.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 23:39 asciilifeform:
phf: you will test using your c101pa. and so you will need the debug snake, i will need to put the output of sysinfo , ver , brd , etc cr50 console commands into the statement.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:07
phf: yes, but if you are going to establish a procedure why do you need an arbitrator, or in other words, i don't see a point of separate arbitrator if the process is your own
mircea_popescu: "shows to signs" is not a computable string for the
phf-machine.