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mod6: yeah, the first message says as much.
asciilifeform: also phf's linked pediwiki item is hilarious : '...floating material in lava lamps, extracting random data from the pictures, and using the result to seed a pseudorandom number generator.[1] Although the secondary part of the random number generation uses a pseudorandom number generator, the full process essentially qualifies as a "true" random number generator due to the random seed that is used.'
asciilifeform: ( will also point out, the lamps per se contribute ~0 entropy, arrangement is really ~same as hashwhitening output of camera static with the lens cap on )
asciilifeform: in other noose, chaum ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-10#1365552 ) peddles promisetronic shitcoin, https://archive.is/DQPVe , as if he had any reputation left to burn ☝︎
spyked: I like w3m as well. the codebase is surprisingly easy to understand (took me a few hours yesterday to get a vague idea of how modules work together), though I have no idea why they need a gc. links is even more minimal, but I use w3m mainly because it runs in emacs.
spyked: the original w3m-js patch adds a -ljs compilation/link-time flag. now, there's another issue: if your libjs is in a path that the run-time linker can't find (e.g. /usr/local/lib as opposed to /usr/lib), it will fail again at some point.
spyked: shinohai, I remember getting this as well at some point. can you also paste config.log? the js library bits that I added to ./configure are very hack-ish (IMHO the thing shouldn't be dynamically linked anyway, so I just hacked through it to make it work)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 19:38 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741179 << you can just ignore the whole "string" question in first version, McCarthy's lisp used symbols instead of strings (that's why early nlp code, like eliza all come out as DOG SAID, HELLO) and the only operation you could do at some point was read and eq.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 19:35 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741176 << i don't need to consider that, i grok metacircularity, i.e. there's no such thing as builtin symbols. bytecode or not is lateral to that point.
ben_vulpes: good example of tmsr as antireddit: nothing in the "nollij of crowds", but if yr lucky some sages will come by with a set of koans to set you rethinkin priors
asciilifeform: btw this is approx same as what they look like if burst unexposed.
mircea_popescu: bathroom in most us places works as dark room, screw in red light plug the window if it exists.
asciilifeform: meeeaanwhile in failed experiments, asciilifeform tried to take an xray of the bolix-ivory die, so as to get moar realistic microscopy quote at some point. method : ra-226 capsule (commercial geiger test src), b&w 'polaroid' film. weakness turns out to be the latter : when developed using rolling pin, fixer pouch bursts, and result is liquishit
mircea_popescu: it started as a straight gaz clone
mircea_popescu: people did that sort of thing, back then. and all the fuckbook tards who paint the dude (rightfully or not, i don't give a shit) as the summum malum never as much as put together a fucking lego box. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 19:38 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741179 << you can just ignore the whole "string" question in first version, McCarthy's lisp used symbols instead of strings (that's why early nlp code, like eliza all come out as DOG SAID, HELLO) and the only operation you could do at some point was read and eq.
asciilifeform: 'Under its own policies, Facebook should have flagged these ads, and prevented the posting of some of them. Its failure to do so revives questions about whether the company is in compliance with federal fair housing rules, as well as about its ability and commitment to police discriminatory advertising on the world’s largest social network.' << ohnoez, plebes illicitly trying to practice freedom of association
a111: Logged on 2014-05-09 19:48 asciilifeform: one other thing about housing in usa - that is rarely spoken of in the open literature - is that the americans switched to housing price as a means of putting the '60-70s race wars on hold
asciilifeform: whaack: not difficult to add up all of the various 'softfork' liquishit tho -- it shows up as 'cannot decode' on ben_vulpes's blockviewer ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is more or less a given. what was the last heathen artifact that we found usable exactly as found? i can't recall even one
asciilifeform: could even formulate the very definition of a forum, as a set of folx who agree on a minimal readtable.
phf: as they say in russia, флаг в руки
phf: there's no such thing as a standard sexps. sure (foo "bar" 1.2) but #\abc or #x123 exist in the same realm as #.(...)
phf: strings as lists of character is a schemist wankery anyway along the "our cpu uses church numerals!1"
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:21 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737956 <-- but lists are sequences too, and strings can be represented as lists. this becomes problematic when O(1) random accesses are needed. if/when that happens, I will have to implement arrays, but until then... strings are lists-of-characters.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741179 << you can just ignore the whole "string" question in first version, McCarthy's lisp used symbols instead of strings (that's why early nlp code, like eliza all come out as DOG SAID, HELLO) and the only operation you could do at some point was read and eq. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:19 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737923 <-- also, spyked's adalisp is missing more fundamental things, such as closures. it's an early prototype, barely usable, but > 0. interning is of course considered, but not added yet. anyway, phf, consider the following point: built-in symbols (car, cons, etc.) still have to point *somewhere*, and that somewhere must not be addressed in a C-machine style! symbols should point to Lisp memory (via
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741176 << i don't need to consider that, i grok metacircularity, i.e. there's no such thing as builtin symbols. bytecode or not is lateral to that point. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( granted, it is not an ~impossible~ matter, as it would be if the proggy had been written in pointerlang. but merely ~difficult~. )
mod6: you were saying as much yesterday iirc
asciilifeform: ( for max speed you want ~0 function calls at all, if possible, for so long as the thing still fits in cache )
ben_vulpes: 'trivially', did not want to start gentooing dryers as well
scriba: Logged on 2017-11-21: [14:05:15] <jurov> also, there's "bitvoin gold" pump going too, apparently it's possible to exchange for BTC the same way as BCH, will be looking into it
mircea_popescu: nobody cares of sum as in a+a+a+a+a+a+a+a+a
asciilifeform: they see it as 'noble lie' etc.
asciilifeform: funnily and coincidentally, it was happening at exactly the same time as, far away, asciilifeform refused to take 'top seekrit' holy orders for usg 'contractor'
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 21:08 rothbart: I've been trying to grok the segwit "theft" incentive - as the bounty grows, so does the PoW defending it - doesn't this keep the segwit outputs safe?
mircea_popescu: basically, they had all the lohtron ready and oiled, sadly no sheep went that way, trying to get as much as possible out of its functionings anyway ?
jurov: also, there's "bitvoin gold" pump going too, apparently it's possible to exchange for BTC the same way as BCH, will be looking into it
a111: Logged on 2017-11-21 07:13 ben_vulpes: this is a hilarious curveball to throw civvies: "but i thought you were so virulently anti-altcoin?" "no man," long drag on cigarette, "you gotta realize that even the dipshittiest, hilariously self-critting piece of nonsense like the thing that self-advertised as usgcoin /is still a better buy than usg fictions like the 'roth ira'"
mircea_popescu: "will provide further updates AS THEY become available". disavowal overdrive, what the fuck, THE UPDATES are the agent here ? they make themselves avaoilable like elliott's girlfriends ?
ben_vulpes: this is a hilarious curveball to throw civvies: "but i thought you were so virulently anti-altcoin?" "no man," long drag on cigarette, "you gotta realize that even the dipshittiest, hilariously self-critting piece of nonsense like the thing that self-advertised as usgcoin /is still a better buy than usg fictions like the 'roth ira'" ☟︎
lobbes: <BingoBoingo> [04:33:27] It is indeed. Also first voyage on an airplane. << damn. btw, if yer sinuses are as bad as mine the final descent (~30 mins) is usually accompanied by intense ear pain/itching.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 03:30 BingoBoingo: Arrival in Montevideo arranged for Dec 6th, at same time as departing prior day.
asciilifeform: typical, http://adagin.blogspot.com/2013/12/ada-2005-access-types-part-i.html , lively : type Hooker_Array is array (Positive range <>) of Hooker_Class_Ptr; procedure Violate_Bodies (x : Hooker_Array); ... 'We want to track all our victims, presumably in some sort of set or container, so that we might disinter them later as needed. Similarly, we might also want to do strange, awful things with the dead bodies of the hookers.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: o develop the pronouncing dictionary we have used the largest online dictionary for Romanian language, the DexOnline dictionary [13]. DexOnline dictionary is freely available, can be downloaded from the Internet as a mysqldump generated SQL file and used in accordance with the terms of GNU General Public License. The database can be easily restored on a MySQL database server.'
asciilifeform: 'Based on the input grapheme codes, the neural networks generate one by one the 30 bit code indicating the presence or the absence of the 30 articulatory features. The output feature vectors are compared with the encoded vectors of the phonemes used. The distance between the output vector and each coded vector is calculated using Manhattan distance function and the system response is chosen as the vector with the smallest distance. T
mircea_popescu: and average doesn't have to be higheer, at all. if five men are measured by your criteria as 12, 11, 10, 9, 8 and five women are measured 10.5, 10.4, 10.3, 10.2 and 10.1, the female average is still way over the male average and yet the first two Xs will be men.
diana_coman: to start with I'm not sure there is such total separation between genders as in searches in male gender means advances do not translate further down the line in moving up the average on female gender too , for instance
mircea_popescu: that's the sadness of evo biology : if you have a sexuate species (as the predicate) then you will have sexual dismorfism. because if you don't, why bother with sexuation. if you have sexual dismorfism, you will have a more diverse and a less diverse gender. because that's what dismorfism IS. if you conventionally name the more diverse gender male (as you do) and the less diverse gender female (as you do), then NECESSARILY as
diana_coman: I guess you can take "women become dominant" as visible threshold of "everyone makes it" but to my eyes that's already late as it were; profession ended long time before that
mircea_popescu: others' mileage may vary, of course. but as far as i'm concerned...
mircea_popescu: all this aside, i'm very performance driven. i care much more about what she does than what she looks like. which is why djb, sexy as she might be, has nevertheless 0 hot factor for me. ill behaved / stupid hotties are not hot to any degree i can personally measure.
mircea_popescu: also, the testosterone issue is visible in much older women. when she was 16, noether was as much helped by the 16 yo's boon as any other girl.
mircea_popescu: explicit power relations, including rape as a definite portion of the curricula, all that good stuff.
mircea_popescu: eg, textile making survived for as long as weavers were men.
asciilifeform: 'We will be publishing a diversity audit of Make: as a company and our properties, and will be setting goals to drive progress on these issues' << самокритика !1111
asciilifeform: 'she and other Chinese makers are every bit as capable and creative as their Western counterparts' << ahahahahahawat
spyked dug for that one as well (w3m-js), seems to be gone
spyked: re. links/elinks js, mircea_popescu, shinohai, thanks for the pointers. attempts so far to get a working item failed, but it's worth reporting what I've found. long story short, elinks depends on libmozjs, steps at http://archive.is/UFpsz work only visiting e.g. http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/#selection-21.75-21.93 gives the following error: "The requested fragment
asciilifeform: the lulzy bit in 'shame and war' is that greenspun correctly identifies html as newjerseylade liquishit, but wholly misrepresents the focus of the braindamage ( he thinks it has something to do with lacking styling; and then 'hey they invented css, fixed it!' )
mircea_popescu: ah, it'd have to live as wrapper on tmsr scheme would it
mircea_popescu: not on top of js, but as part of tmsr-js
asciilifeform: as for js, it is intrinsically, deeply and infectiously retarded, on a level that is difficult to compactly express -- e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-10#1517759 is merely ~one~ aspect ☝︎
mircea_popescu: why not ? phf';s logotron posts them correctly, as /x whatevers
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/5xp1t/?raw=true << txt snapshot , as derp blocks archiver
asciilifeform: in other noose, far away, 'Bitbet is shutting down as the admin team is no longer in a position to manage the site. All contracts that could be resolved have been resolved, and winnings have been paid out...'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:33 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740268 <-- coincidentally, I've been working on a very similar thing this week-end. managed to get rid of gcc 5.4 through a variation on https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC ; compressed steps: 1. install heathen stage3; 2. right after minimal setup (timezone, locale etc.), install gcc 4.9.4, and switch to it as default using gcc-config; 3. mask gcc >=5 in portage; 4. rebuild @system (and/or
spyked: mircea_popescu, last time I tried (lynx, w3m, etc. even "links"), linking something such as http://trilema.com/2017/galati-yachting/#selection-23.0-25.14 didn't highlight
mircea_popescu: anyway, eulora client is specifically left as exercise to eulora player. can make it do anything you wish.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:33 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740268 <-- coincidentally, I've been working on a very similar thing this week-end. managed to get rid of gcc 5.4 through a variation on https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC ; compressed steps: 1. install heathen stage3; 2. right after minimal setup (timezone, locale etc.), install gcc 4.9.4, and switch to it as default using gcc-config; 3. mask gcc >=5 in portage; 4. rebuild @system (and/or
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740268 <-- coincidentally, I've been working on a very similar thing this week-end. managed to get rid of gcc 5.4 through a variation on https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC ; compressed steps: 1. install heathen stage3; 2. right after minimal setup (timezone, locale etc.), install gcc 4.9.4, and switch to it as default using gcc-config; 3. mask gcc >=5 in portage; 4. rebuild @system (and/or ☝︎☟︎☟︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737956 <-- but lists are sequences too, and strings can be represented as lists. this becomes problematic when O(1) random accesses are needed. if/when that happens, I will have to implement arrays, but until then... strings are lists-of-characters. ☝︎☟︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737923 <-- also, spyked's adalisp is missing more fundamental things, such as closures. it's an early prototype, barely usable, but > 0. interning is of course considered, but not added yet. anyway, phf, consider the following point: built-in symbols (car, cons, etc.) still have to point *somewhere*, and that somewhere must not be addressed in a C-machine style! symbols should point to Lisp memory (via ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is getting fucking ridiculous, for the record. human sums (as defined by supermarket practice) totally unworth bothering with dust in bitcoin.
diana_coman: I never heard it; dic says it's same as "a capitula"; possibly in a sponge-fight I'd gather
mircea_popescu: it's not merely a shame that "such problems" are continuously "identified" by idiots, but that the scream for help universally goes unheeded. if you think ~about~ such things as upspin.io, i don't mean if you're "working" at them or anything like that, if you merely think ABOUT them you're certifiably SUTO. get the fuck out, completely, right now, it's a worse addiction than krakadil. parts of your body are falling off!
cazalla: not that poland would be some paradise but step up from here, and i think kids would benefit from another language, young enough to pick up polish as first language instead of english
pete_dushenski: aha. "modern art" is often just so soiled as to be rightfully confused for tp.
asciilifeform: often enuff ugly as used toiletpaper.
pete_dushenski: "At some level, the $450 million number is so big as to be meaningless. If I told you that the painting was bought for 60,000 bitcoins, would that make it easier to stomach?" << lulzomatic commentary on said auction from felix salmon https://tinyletter.com/felixsalmon/letters/nota-bene-10
BingoBoingo: Arrival in Montevideo arranged for Dec 6th, at same time as departing prior day. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i dun see it as a blocking operation
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/cine-se-casatoreste/#comment-83174 << item from ancient trilema "how about if there was some chick that got implanted ovules from right-to-life xtian women only and strictly to abort them 10 weeks in as a trolling thing"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform always a problem of translaty dict, as discussed. no way out of this, translaty dict is perl.
asciilifeform: no reason these should not all exist as 1 hyper-whatevertron.
asciilifeform: the english one, afaik, is 19th c, at least most recent as exists on www >> https://ia800500.us.archive.org/15/items/webstersunabridg29765gut/29765-8.txt << for completeness.
mircea_popescu: got a gateway to latin and a gateway to the east, and the idiotic lingua franca of stupid people as the archimede screw for it all.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to eg alphabet co go-playing code.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as an aside : the "limba romana este singura limba care se scrie cum se citeste" ro linguistics dogmatics promises there's a workable ro-ipaize-tron somewhere. at least in the sense of "we could get 99% success rate". it IS a point of fact that ~any romanian speaker can correctly notate new words on the basis of sound, and this is PRECISELY the sort of artificial intelligence that's amenable to numeric methods.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to leave the pressure off : im still willing to go through it by line and improve as time permits, but there's no rush, so let's first make an optimal basis and see.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can even put them as aside binary blob, as discussed re fg/bootturds etc. "you wanrt to see the orcograms, find item #x in list"
asciilifeform: ( would put'em as a middle column, rather than in place of the existing )
mircea_popescu: this would be (as per tradition / discussion yest etc) actually a very powerful item ~for the student of english~, too. even if he only spake english.
mircea_popescu: you could ALSO add the etymology notation as separate field, but can also leave it as is (part of the expl)
mircea_popescu: capcană = trap, generally in the physical sense. căpcăun = strange item, pluriously rendered as ogre, troll etc. basically ro folklore big bad. in all appearances direct survivor of greek antrophophagos.
mircea_popescu: it misses so many of the most trite expressions it's not worth mentioning as a dictionary anyway, much in the way a "map" of texas that only had dallas.
asciilifeform: might even be worth using the tech list as ~subtractand~
asciilifeform: imho the 1st item was much too full of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740598 as it was ☝︎
asciilifeform: in other pipeline, the 'proverbs' item is hopelessly bitrotten, i'ma jettison it. the 'tech' and 'expressions' otoh are ready, dedupped, and flipped ( so as ro->eng )