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trinque: I will not use an item that can't give me metadata for a given path without loading the potentially gigantic item itself
asciilifeform: we don't use it ? it dies. that simple ☟︎
asciilifeform: deedbot's rss doesn't
asciilifeform: and don't intend to
BingoBoingo: Still haven't found it. Most of the local scrapping industry tends to center around hawking junk finds at la Feria Tristan Narvaja on Sundays.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mod6: try as i might, i can't picture how a photo would help to exploit yer box ( aside from the 'tells enemy which rack to dynamite' aspect, but mp_en_viaje addressed that one earlier ) << Ah, datacenter fellow expressed some bemused curiosity about the unbranded Qntra machine. Apparently everything else is plastered in brand names because latino rather than assembled into generic steel chicom chassis
ave1: as for the switch, in old docu it is here: https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gnat_ugn_unw/Switches-for-gcc.html#ndex-g_t_0040option_007b_002dgnatm_007d-_0028_0040command_007bgcc_007d_0029-125
mod6: (i don't really care, just sayin')
mod6: yeah, I don't think ours will even have that anyway. BUT, the point stand that, I didn't build it; who knows what nasty pitfalls are in there.
mod6: well, yeah, i didn't mean physically, i meant "remotely pwn"
asciilifeform: mod6: try as i might, i can't picture how a photo would help to exploit yer box ( aside from the 'tells enemy which rack to dynamite' aspect, but mp_en_viaje addressed that one earlier )
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mp_en_viaje: there was a thread, while back, re physically-compact, low-wattage machines as a sane alternative to cloudism. can't seem to find it in log << The 8 PCengines to 1U recipe would still be appreciated. Especially if someone can bake them and move them... ( danielpbarron?)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there was a thread, while back, re physically-compact, low-wattage machines as a sane alternative to cloudism. can't seem to find it in log
a111: Logged on 2018-02-01 21:24 phf: diana_coman: ty, i'll try wiring it in, and keep you posted. i assume ada<>c interop is pretty straightforward, though i won't have a chance to try until later next week. suddenly busy
asciilifeform: don't be ashamed of the old microvax, lol
mod6: <+mp_en_viaje> BingoBoingo, seriouasly, form the mental habit. pics and blog. << Hey all good as long as you don't take pics of the foundations boxen.
mp_en_viaje: aren;t looking at a case where qntra is alone on a box ? qntra can't afford such luxuries by itself.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-01#1779082 << a cool. can't do this from here, so will be weekendish. but the important details are missing, such as what software did you eventually pick to manage your cloud and so on. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: don;'t be silly, the numbers are in the log.
mp_en_viaje: because i don't want a throng of poor but stupid women begging in my driveway.
diana_coman: phf, ada<->C interop was quite straightforward last time I tried it, didn't take much at all; you'll need to add a few exports iirc
phf: diana_coman: ty, i'll try wiring it in, and keep you posted. i assume ada<>c interop is pretty straightforward, though i won't have a chance to try until later next week. suddenly busy ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: in some applications, speed doesn't really matter almost at all. and in those, it is even now possible to, e.g., take ch5 ffa for rsatron.
asciilifeform: in this particular case it wouldn't even matter if it were run by honest folx
asciilifeform: just like apache, nginx, etc. it has the microshit-quality : you can throw darts all day long and hit only things that really don't need to be there for anything sane people are likely to do with http
a111: Logged on 2015-12-20 00:13 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1348050 << you know what's great? rat poison STILL WORKS even if you don't explain to the rats exactly ~how~ !
mp_en_viaje: the problem with imbeciles is exactly the problem of bogota, buenos aires, whatever : they don't actually want to do any specific thing. they just want to look a certain way.
trinque: the ass-kissing line would be too long by now; ain't nobody got time for that
trinque: "because once you have enough money, money doesn't matter"
mp_en_viaje: so you don't sit there like miss xue yue in the chicken coop.
mp_en_viaje: i didn;t even know they still made cars without, why the everloving would you
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, 100% all the inept argentinian idiocies. "oh, you can't have that item from menu, it's not its hours yet" "bitch, say what ?" "we only sell things when WE feel like selling them, fu. welcome to bogota"
asciilifeform: i was able to , e.g., emerge emacs and not suddenly see dbus appear. there isn't much moar that i even want from gentoo/portage.
phf: eh, i haven't found anything that worked better or worse. everywhere i have to carve a haven, but put it on top of quicksand
asciilifeform: but it also was entirely diff chipset, and wouldn't possibly eat my bios
phf: i don't really want to waste much time tweaking the confs, so most things don't really work for now. i have audio and wifi, but suspend dosn't work, nor does the nifty touch screen, etc.
phf: yeah, can get for now, but X doesn't magically start, so i need to figure out what's going on there. probably requires hand written xorg.conf
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-31#1778747 << bios patched, but i haven't tried kernel conf, i'm running freebsd on it. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, tis a sad state of affairs. this item in my hands is, in a physical sense, quite fine. but then there's this intervening bullshit. literally like kid with autism/depression/anxiety/whatever the fuck. it would work fine if it just weren't born to ustards in ustardia.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-17 06:23 phf: but you're not supposed to touch those files directly, oh no, they are undocumented and what are you some kind of terrorist. instead there's 20 incompatible power/suspend/battery/sensor/fans/specialkeys control daemons in various states of disarray. "oh, if your fans don't kick in you want termald, or try batterd, which works with new lzmi acpi functions."
a111: Logged on 2014-07-22 20:06 Mats_cd03: and, there is an ACPI table exclusively for telling Windows not to apply fixes for buggy hardware because its in a VM, and VMM emulation of the hardware doesn't include said bugs.
mp_en_viaje: what's so forced about "no, you can't run code. if you want your hardware object '''configured''' or w/e the fuck, here's the bios api, pass data into it. if you can't, fix your printer"
mp_en_viaje: "and besides, correct programs can't even be written" "so then why should they be priviledged ?" "no, see, kernel can be correct because fly eyes fly like fruit."
mp_en_viaje: "but mp, our users need to run random code they have no idea about all the time" "no they don't"
asciilifeform: there isn't , on x86olade, a 'longer than 16b regs, no segmentation, but no mpu and bios calls work' mode.
mp_en_viaje: so no, protected mode hasn;'t become because it offered. the pantsuit decided it must be, and therefore prevented the non-mongoloid child from offering. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: oh those still won't work, in shitware bios
mp_en_viaje: i don't want the fucking bs of hey mp we notice your brightness keys do not work would you like to restart the program.
mp_en_viaje: C9K94UC#ABA (hp eliteboook 8470p) for the precision minded. i wouldn't recommend buying it, even though the chassis may seem fine.
mp_en_viaje: worth a shot but i don't feel like rebooting my windows terminal yet again
mp_en_viaje: xgamma does nothing. /sys/class/backlight doesn't exist. ye olde grub trick (GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_backlight=vendor") does nothing.
mp_en_viaje: HOWEVER they didn't have the fucking sense to make my key open the main gate. fucking banks can figure out this much for atm, but not these dorks. so i gotta wait there for a guard to show up and unlock it and wish me welcome, after the outside guard asks me n times what my room number is.
mp_en_viaje: but, get this -- these idiots DID make the elevator not work if you don't have your magical key card, so i had to comandeer a maid to get me to my floor. cuz that's fuckinguseful, needing your key for the elevator
asciilifeform: ( on little-endian box, e.g. uint32_t with 'most of the time'-range below 255 will be 'safely' castable to char/uint8_t , and often is... )
phf: given the general going ons i wouldn't mind "basic instinct of manhood" as a kind of working baseline, to improve upon later
phf: when i was a child i wanted to be able to catch a pickpocket, in the process, and then invite him to work for me (i'm not sure doing what, but you know build a team of highly skilled thieves or somesuch), kind of like how it was in the opener of Thief game. unfortunately by the time i actually had money to cary, it didn't seem like a particularly interesting idea
a111: Logged on 2018-01-31 02:19 mp_en_viaje: other anecdote : different woman, ~same age, warned ~me~ to put my wad away, there's thieves. this one, you see, hadn't yet accepted her age. so she was being useful, "if you had one like me, your cash would be so protected. ask me to follow ?"
mp_en_viaje: other anecdote : different woman, ~same age, warned ~me~ to put my wad away, there's thieves. this one, you see, hadn't yet accepted her age. so she was being useful, "if you had one like me, your cash would be so protected. ask me to follow ?" ☟︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: well it wasn't a museum piece, was printing out a coupla mil in old-fashioned paperbenjies per minute. but i get the idea.
asciilifeform: i can't think of who or why
phf: well, they won't see it either, the whole adventure is organize by a swiss middle man, utmost discretion
phf: in 2009 or so, if you did ue at night, there was always a person who was body aware, who would've heard of parkour or was practicing it. shit, half of america was doing parkour in the 05? 15? i don't remember
mp_en_viaje: phf, i suspect this nver happens, "evolve into one another". seems t ome it'salways 100% new biostock
asciilifeform: what do folx in a 5M+ city busy themselves with anyway..? they can't all drive cabs or sell stocks
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, girl called desk to call me a cab. desk wanted to know where it's going. insistently. when they didn't get what they want, they OPTED NOT TO DO WHAT TOLD.
mp_en_viaje: i have a new theory by the way. so bogota is ~8mn inhabitants. and there's DISTINCT signs of argentinetardation. but i mean itemized, multiple strands, quite visible. eyt the folk themselves aren't at all similar, not fenotypically nor culturally.
mp_en_viaje: t think anyone imagines uruguay can be genoa of 2020.
mp_en_viaje: spiderman got bit by a strange bottle, right ? it wasn't a prepubescent girly some dood in british academia was trying not to actually fuck. it was spiderman!
phf: actually i don't know! i'm in a bad place, spatially, DC is literally the worst place to keep tabs on this kind of stuff. everything seems dead, but i know if i were to just travel two hours north there's going to be updates on what's happening
phf: which was convenient since i didn't really know the area at all
asciilifeform: i have a -- what i think is -- 'lombard'. but with ancient and dying mechanical hdd, and it won't eat literally anything in its place, tried repeatedly.
phf: and a powermac g4, that i haven't booted in a while. i'm pretty sure it has netbsd on it though
phf: i don't remember specific designators, a g3 ibook that was a hand me down when i was poor and just came to this country, a g4 powerbook that i bought since it was "last model to run os 9", a wallstreet that someone game recently (i like the "my name is the plague" kind of feel to it, but have no use for it)
ben_vulpes: hey it was a nice one!!1 "don't laugh, it's paid in full" or whatever that bumper sticker says
ben_vulpes: few, but how many princelings are now running around. the nissans are saved for the poorest, who don't even get into nyu.
mp_en_viaje: t find ONE woman he likes...
ben_vulpes: mp_en_viaje: well they didn't offset the costs of eleventy thousand princelings while the spigots were open...
mp_en_viaje: losses are a product of optionality. wtf optinality does saudi have ? if they don't sell it they could also... sell it ? o wow. such options.
mp_en_viaje: you understand bogota is 2x the size of ny ? you've not seen traffic jams this good in ny. not since.... well never, back when it still mattered they didn't have the cars.
mp_en_viaje: eh, at some point it was a major mainstream item, late 00s or so. kinda bicoin of the period, $item every office drone hasta know about / if you don't have "formed your own oppinion
mp_en_viaje: conversation isn't waiting for the other speaker to finally shut up so you can speak your piece.
mod6: ah, no haven't had a chance yet.
trinque: this some kind of "without the workers we wouldn't have all this glorious fy00t0r" ?
asciilifeform: won't buy post-2011 amd either.
asciilifeform: fwiw i will not buy any new intel product. haven't, for quite some time.
asciilifeform: winintel doesn't want people debugging the drm spyshitware in the bios; or the winblowz kernel. ergo xhci.
asciilifeform: laplinker: i don't particularly need this for anything, when i have a working sageprobe and amd boxes
asciilifeform: it ain't gdb-compatible, for one thing. requires windows shitware which they sold for $10k's and never afaik leaked
asciilifeform: 'why not use the pragma Provide_Shift_Operators?' << it doesn't work on gnat2016, try it
shinohai: yup and also doesn't use --no-emit-version
trinque: people don't show up at some empty lot hungry and then later there's a restaurant
phf: well, to be fair i'm sure i mean to direct that at you, but what you said wasn't directed at me.
asciilifeform: mod6: at the risk of repeating myself : don't babysit nodes. if it genuinely 'gets stuck', and not merely on account of poor block propagation at the particular time you are watching -- it is potentially serious problem, and you want debug info . if on other hand it is a chronic situation, you want to instrument the thing with timers, find out where it spends time.
asciilifeform: phf: worx with variable success. didn't , for instance, for FG to diana_coman
BingoBoingo: A common recurring answer is they don't know because everyone they know goes to Miama with one bag and returns home with 5-10
mod6: well, probably wasn't "stuck" just takig a long time or whatever.
phf: well, then you can't arbitrarily say that big endian system is illogical because it has little endian bit order but big endian byte order.
mircea_popescu: i don't agree that implementation limits my power of representation.
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think it makes sense to talk about bit order on any of the architectures that we're discussing, since you can only address by bytes. big endian systems could have little endian bytes and you would never know, likewise little endian systems could have big endian bytes and you would never know. logically though there's no reason you can't view big endian to be a bit reverse of little endian
mircea_popescu: i can't conceive who the fuck else was ever equipped to touch this shit.