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BingoBoingo: I was wondering what this surgery was, but was suspecting followup to the December abdominal cleanup

BingoBoingo: When I left they were still doing the cookie cutter cul-de-sac subdivisions full of stick built

mircea_popescu watched "old school" yest with the gals because i don't recall why. holy shit that's a transparent piece of femstate agitprop (not coincidentally, with the same crew as http://trilema.com/very-bad-things ) -- who could possibly pass on the "career woman" with a kid in tow and all that nonsense.

BingoBoingo: Those are "mid rise" stick built over a ground floor podium http://bingology.net/2019/02/19/mundane-shit-i-took-for-granted-that-is-new/#selection-121.0-125.387

mircea_popescu: this has got to be the sorriest thing i saw, since that obama sadness.

mircea_popescu: i wonder if you can directly splash water from the faucet on the "modern, dynamic, blabla" "seated" at the workbench over there

a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 20:11 asciilifeform: relatedly, i recently hung up a 'premium, high end' corkboard, several square metres, and it turns out that 1) maybe half the depth is actual cork, the rest -- cardboard 2) no other kind is available

asciilifeform: i still have difficulty swallowing that they can make anyffin moar complicated than camel saddle.

mircea_popescu: i'll believe. more sense than qatar, for sure.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hooka worx best with ~servant~ who fills/empties, i suspect

BingoBoingo: Eastern tobacco involves ritual and some trivial amount of work. Most US hookah purchases I've seen end up on a shelf as another piece of kitsch after just a few uses.

mircea_popescu: very far cry from the "only I wish

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my (admittedly nonexpert) understanding is that hooka is used for what in asciilifeform's alcoholic orcistan is referred to as 'kvasing', i.e. slow intake over whole day/night

mircea_popescu: lotta things chinese did lot more honest. the black lotus retirement plan way the fuck more effectual, secure, reliable AND PLEASANT than https://i.eprci.net/thorazine-ad ; not to mention the chinese didn't give it to children.

a111: Logged on 2019-03-02 23:34 mircea_popescu: diana_coman btw, can i get you to "update posts set post_content = REPLACE(post_content, 'http://polimedia.us/trilema/', 'http://trilema.com/');" ?

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in fact -- almost NOTHING is EVER a theoretical process. << I'm going to decorate with this point so it gets through the skull case

mircea_popescu: diana_coman btw, can i get you to "update posts set post_content = REPLACE(post_content, 'http://polimedia.us/trilema/', 'http://trilema.com/');" ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i think it's one of the better pieces ever penned in the style ; feel free to put up some of your usenet selections, i'm curious.

asciilifeform: just when i thought the genre died with usenet, mircea_popescu resurrects!

asciilifeform: with chinese ? i guess i missed

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i admit, mine is entirely a 'exterminate the brutes' pov

asciilifeform: but possibly i'm thick.

mircea_popescu: also i suspect BingoBoingo has it, the chinese have no notion of individual.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-02#1900087 << possibly i'm thick, but i dunget why beijing doesn't catch a coupla dozen usg daughters and send'em to washington 1 finger at a time until the matter's resolved. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: I though Nessie died from anti-freeze poisoning because British cars leave piss puddles like puppies

asciilifeform: i suppose loch ness monster also choked (perhaps on cock?) long ago, and hence absent..

mircea_popescu: "i haven't been doing my reading back in 2013-2014. this totally means the shit i don't understand in 2019 is fascinating to everyone else and important, rite guise ?!"

mircea_popescu: i meant on qntra.

mircea_popescu: and yet, i keep encountering this apparently archetipical romanian -- coming up late to a party he can't even describe.

mircea_popescu: i retorted to him that if by this age he hasn't yet figured out such a place doesn't exist, there's no helping him.

mircea_popescu: there's this iconic moment at the peak of "caritas" (cluj-based MMM pyramid) where an old man in traditional peasant garb asked me on a bridge "if i know where's this place where they give money for free".

mircea_popescu: romanian bloggers, i swear. showing up years late to a party they can't even describe.

mircea_popescu: iptomonede, opinii" but even manages to write a piece on the celebrated http://trilema.com/2011/romania-cea-de-basm-partea-i/ item (four years later) without somehow managing to at all EVEN MENTION let alone fucking address the whole reason public funds were even misdirected towards printing that (meanwhile melted down) piece of crap. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2014-12-08 05:33 mircea_popescu: "Sunt fondatorul uneia din cele mai mari retele de bloguri de nisa din Romania (Stepout Media), cu siteuri precum: www.construimimperii.ro," i am the founder of one of the biggest niche networks in romania, with sites such as webuildempires

a111: Logged on 2019-01-25 17:05 mircea_popescu: in any case, in 2011, as in 2001, as in 2021 i can say "academia romana keks" or http://trilema.com/2011/stimata-academie/ whatever ; but they can't say "trilema.com", because holy shit.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-25#1889862 slash http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-08#948046 lulz : the dork i used above for a source for the commie radio pictures (not that he originates them, they actually come from http://www.latrecut.ro/2006/05/ric-stramoshul-ipod-ului/ which is significantlly better contextually, but I was lazy) not only passes himself as a "Ministrul Cyberculturii | Recenzii, cronici, cr ☝︎☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: i find the howling vacuum when looked 'who tried this' suspicious, tho.

mircea_popescu: no, i'm saying, this is the problem. if you don't have sufficient crystalline surface to provide separation, you end up with the microequivalent of a disco ball.

mircea_popescu: but again, i've not sat down with maths for this, just first pass "you got any suspicions ?" thing.

asciilifeform: you'd need a monochromatic beam (i.e. not what's in asciilifeform's brutal machine, naturally) but can't see why not in abstract worx

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i ~suspect~ without having done the math that the doped nature of the si crystal makes the picture too noisy to be usable.

a111: Logged on 2014-07-27 21:29 asciilifeform: if i recall, last words were 'enemy is at the gates. they've opened fire, oh shi....'

asciilifeform: apropos of nuffin : mircea_popescu can you think of any reason why laue diffraction wouldn't work on a ic die ? seems like nobody ever fessed up to having tried. what am i missing

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: maybe i slept through it, but did a plague kill off the midwestern farm boys who obediently 'die for the motherland'(tm)(r) or wut

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's no such thing left. i know it's difficult to conceptualize, but it's nevertheless true. there is no such thing as an us army.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i found a buncha these, when http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-13#1895632 ☝︎

BingoBoingo: Everyone in the US I've met that worked a "public contact/customer service" position has the same epiphany. None of them think humanity is bad or democracy unworkable, they fatlogic that everyone else is exactly as same age/gender/human as they are.

BingoBoingo: Or if I am feeling fancy "todo bien, gracias"

BingoBoingo: The police here are so much more pleasant than back home. Even in small town USA(TM)(R) new recruit cops would stop me during late night/early morning walks to ask what I was doing. Here if the police even care to address me, nothing more needs to be said than the traditional exchange of "todo bien? todo bien."

mircea_popescu: i actually expect this will be a thing, did you see the very good walking robots they have now ?

asciilifeform: 'no one has yet created body armor with air conditioning built in' << iirc this was actually commissioned during usg's iraq adventure. ( or at the very least, a golden toilet contract was issued for it, i have nfi what the accompanying theatrical prop looked like, and whether anyone bothered to produce )

asciilifeform: ha loox like i had mircea_popescu's pictured earbud. it's the only thing that worked with my crystal set

mircea_popescu: i had this two-battery, no port radio as a 12yo boy.

asciilifeform: ( i.e. accumulates stupid , from all possible inputs , rather than somehow factoring out )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's other pt, tho, i gotta entirely agree with -- the item is a stupidity summer

mircea_popescu: i guess we'll have to disagree on this point.

a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 17:15 mircea_popescu: i never perceived him as anything other than or besides https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM-2030 character.

mircea_popescu: not that i don't admire efforts of people trying to make better web proxies ; but i think those efforts are slightly misdirected and grossly premature.

a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 17:09 asciilifeform: as i understand various folx use gnarly custom apache ( iirc mircea_popescu definitely ) and so it'll have to be massaged also

diana_coman: I was curious re activity @ musl so I joined the channel: the topic is same as http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-05#1188244 ☝︎

diana_coman: at least that's what I saw so far

asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato. tho i did find that the arm build won't build a x86 gnat ( still afaik mystery )

asciilifeform: might be worthwhile sacrificial test subject, if at some pt i can dig one up

asciilifeform: re those rivets : earlier this yr i tried to find where else used; turns out , hp ( who fabbed the bolix ) in late '80s also used on certain of their 'pa-risc' items, e.g. http://www.cpushack.com/gallery-1/hp/hp1fe4-0010-pa7300lc-b/

asciilifeform: as i understand various folx use gnarly custom apache ( iirc mircea_popescu definitely ) and so it'll have to be massaged also ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 15:18 spyked: but after about three semi-automated passes through the texts, I'm fairly confident I got most of the crap out

a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 15:09 spyked: re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 , specifically glibc is gonna go from my machines once I encuntooate them. it's not yet clear to me how this will impact e.g. apache, which calls dlopen for its loadable modules thing. google didn't turn out anything on the subj either.

a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 09:03 phf: this really has been a low priority item until i moved to russia, but now i'm stuck in secular hell, so this whole subject elicits only anger and i'd rather something good actually came out of it.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-01#1899898 << would be pretty great. i wrote to dks again re the PALs , and re whether he has any moar cpus , dead or alive, to sell, so far no answr ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-01#1899892 << the xray setup is really for the pcb (not done yet, but film is here.) the ic shot is so possibly to figure out where to cut, right nao i have 3 ~different~ packages, so if i cut one and smash it , doesn't tell me anything useful re how to try again, it's a 'measure 7777 times, cut 1ce' situation. ☝︎

spyked: but after about three semi-automated passes through the texts, I'm fairly confident I got most of the crap out ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-26 23:21 asciilifeform: !Q later tell spyked that gutenberg tarball -- didja get a chance to auto-kill all of the header liquishit ? i'd prefer to mirror a flensed copy, the 50kB of 'this text copyright wikitards(tm)(r)' is eyesore

spyked: update re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-26#1899440 : it's almost done, I'll document it and post the new archive sometime next week. long story short: the headers/footers are non-standard, so it's taken me a while to find the proper grep recipes. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 20:10 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899484 << i heartily recommend http://trilema.com/2019/trilema-images-no-longer-showing/

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899545 <-- ty, pill applied. tho I don't expect any automated attempts to get the thing occured, only the immediate post-publication 'imbulzeala' ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 15:50 mircea_popescu: some time to look at things and consider matters will be needed ; but i specifically want to hear something from asciilifeform ave1 bvt diana_coman phf spyked trinque

spyked: re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 , specifically glibc is gonna go from my machines once I encuntooate them. it's not yet clear to me how this will impact e.g. apache, which calls dlopen for its loadable modules thing. google didn't turn out anything on the subj either. ☝︎☟︎

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897733 -> even stronger on this given the recent experiment since I can't see *any* reason for indulging zcx ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i see phf's having a blast tho!

mircea_popescu: oh oh. yeah i c

bvt: mircea_popescu: i guess the message did not parse correctly. i'm not proposing c the programming language; i meant something similar to "option c" from the list of possibilities you outlined in thread http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 ☝︎

bvt: i do not expect to see a lot of exceptions from sjlj

bvt: re sjlj/zcx: i guess i'd stick with a variant of c (http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897694): sjlj by default, use zcx only when facing high overhead from sjlj AND where this is possible due to threading model. ☝︎

bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897636 << as long as i need userspace C code to run, I'll be happy to use musl. it's not bugs-free, but its bugs have very different nature than glibc's. i see no reason for keeping glibc on non-toiletboxes. ☝︎

phf: this really has been a low priority item until i moved to russia, but now i'm stuck in secular hell, so this whole subject elicits only anger and i'd rather something good actually came out of it. ☟︎

lobbesbot: phf: Sent 1 day, 8 hours, and 12 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> i hate to become 'thread necromancer', but would really like a resolution of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875722 & the related quandaries some time before i die of old age. plox to comment.

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 << i've been building everything using ave1's gcc/gnat which is musl based. i don't see any reason to keep glibc ☝︎

asciilifeform: trinque: i put it in its coffin in 2015, with 'rotor' , and wasn't even aware that there was contemplation of keeping it alive until mircea_popescu asked last mo

mircea_popescu: it's organized tho, i perceive patterns.

asciilifeform: pretty sure it's a noise, i.e. one can't usefully milk the circuit from it

asciilifeform: i have honestly nfi what it is , presently

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-01#1899843 << i dun expect they'll be showing up to 'bring plea' any time soon. instead they're rakin' in the heathen dough just nao. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 20:59 bvt: i can try killing that code to see what happens -- i don't even understand why zcx won't just work, and there is no information on this problem in the whole internet

a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 20:47 asciilifeform: bvt: i started with the supposition that it was built for irons where there is no time slicer , but currently nfi whether this is so, or whether was simply a kludge for no particular reason

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-28#1899801 << it's a methodologically defensible "charitable read" ; nevertheless not actually supported by the facts, as it happens. this dun invalidate the method i dun think. ☝︎

asciilifeform: i dun know ~anyffin about it, either. q is where the fuck standards-compliant soft are to come from, to begin with.