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lobbes: Oya, much safer to keep "controversial" facebook phriends from comfort of mom's basement (which, amusingly, not safe at all as Facebook is honeypot, but whatevs)
mircea_popescu: JUST AS MARRIED AS ALL THE OTHERS
asciilifeform: and, as diana_coman describes, its brokenness artfully painted over
mircea_popescu: hole fucking thing EXISTS, in the first place, AS A HUMONGOUS AND HUMONGOUSLY EXPENSIVE CLOCK! but why bother.
mircea_popescu: it got windy here a week or two ago. maaaybe dropped as low as 15C briefly. o my teh shivers, teh sads.
BingoBoingo: Aha, the median summer temperatures and humidity are very similar, but the extremes encountered in the Middle west don't happen as routinely here
mircea_popescu: nah, what, 5kgs each ? ~same as hosting a card trading party.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-16 02:45 mircea_popescu: technically .5 btc is "more money than zek is pewrmitted to have" as it is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the application here was, "gee, how cheap is mobility!" ; but again : for a zek coin (as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-16#1752109 ) you can have 100 of these. serialize them, the half minute becomes eight hours. ☝︎
asciilifeform: you mentioned cranking tho, as advertised application
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 02:55 asciilifeform: hey bureaucrat sees ~everythign~ as usg org chart, climbable, naturally has steps! itmust!!
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mircea_popescu: trinque as per ye olde http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/#selection-39.50-45.12
mircea_popescu: Techman there's a lot of interest in shortwave here, as per say http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22shortwave%22 ; i suspect we have a lot to talk about. but can be tomorrow or whatever, there's no rush.
toohigh: All the old owners are retired or passed on, it's just not the same as the old days
toohigh: It can be run as a Gentleman's Club with 100's of beautiful girls and 3 ugly ones. (tm)
toohigh: team as an oxymoron xD
mircea_popescu: as memorable as the holocaust.
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mircea_popescu: trinque yeah, it's ok as it stands.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 02:03 asciilifeform: ( the linear flow display was also a mistake, it misleads people, does not actually help anybody. really ought to have exclusively tree-flow display, as mod6 had )
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toohigh: mircea_popescu Used it as a down payment on a new cruiser ;)
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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756156 << exactly as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752680 : being rich doesn't necessarioly promise much, mensa is fulla high iq losers and marinas/golf courses/boardrooms fulla high networth losers. HOWEVER! at the OTHER END... if you're poor you're dumb, no question. ☝︎☝︎
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phf: i thought the spam was funny, because i want to his youtube channel and there was a bunch of very upset and confused people there. i thought it was an intentional, as they say, good show
phf: is that same l0de as http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1752954 ☝︎
mod6: Anyway, more as I have it. Thanks[
asciilifeform: so to expand : we take each 'out' , and follow it back as far as we can. ( when we meet a nil, we stop recursing, in that branch. ) when we meet a non-nil, recurse. when the recursion unwinds, the actual unixpatch (or phfian patch, for that matter) util invocations, happen.
asciilifeform: ( the linear flow display was also a mistake, it misleads people, does not actually help anybody. really ought to have exclusively tree-flow display, as mod6 had ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: pointedly the 'flow' should not be used as the input for any operation , other than to display to user
BingoBoingo: <esthlos> i'm trying to implement V, without reading too much source (as asciilifeform suggested), so how is this so far: << Well, stop reading code and take V on a walk down the Rambla.
mod6: I'll stop working on all other things, and dig into this. Will advise as I have more to say.
mod6: Initial findings after digging into it here quickly, my V seems to have the leaves in a separate flow order than from Stan's (v99). Which, by itself, (as we've discussed before) isn't a problem per-se. It seems though that in the case here where the leaves are ordered differently, and you press (with my v (99994)) up through 'ch2_truerandom.vpatch', it also includes the 'eucrypt_mpi_fix_copy_incr.vpatch' a
esthlos: i'm trying to implement V, without reading too much source (as asciilifeform suggested), so how is this so far:
diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, I plan precisely a unifier; that makes total sense to me, see above where I already said I consider v99 behaviour as correct
asciilifeform: v as i originally devised it, specifically 'grasps' by ~1~ leaf, when calculating a press
diana_coman: fwiw mod6 I'm rather happy you wrote it though, as it helped me a lot in the beginning when I was trying to get my head around v itself; having at least 2 implementations to compare is not a bad thing
diana_coman: it seems I also found a difference in press behaviour between asciilifeform's v99 and mod6's v: this new vpatch of mine si correctly identified as leaf and otherwise descendant of ch1_mpi.vpatch by both v ; however, when pressing ch2 vpatch, mod6's v presses this other leaf too from what I see, while asciilifeform's v99 does not press it; to me v99's behaviour seems correct but I don't know if this is something that was discussed before
asciilifeform: btw, ftr asciilifeform considered f77 as close runner-up for 'in what to write ffa and all from nao on'
phf: teractive environment is basically there to parametrize, and then it spits out a fortran code that crunches the numbers as it is
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 01:52 phf: i think correct method would really be to get the transaction out as a binary array into shiva, and then have a transaction parser in shiva itself that'll break it down into a sexp or whatever
asciilifeform: a 'pistol only' cut , as discussed earlier, would be interesting
shinohai: `Long Island Iced Tea shares soared 500% after the company rebranded as Long Blockchain. The decision came at 3 AM, during a long "product testing" meeting, after one executive mentioned that his son had made a lot of money on "Betcoin [sic].`
asciilifeform: ( as well as dozen hops of prb nonsense )
mircea_popescu: true in 1817 as today
asciilifeform: sorta where i was going with experiments such as 'wires' etc
asciilifeform: as i understood trb historically was 'and here is bitcoin minus the post-2011 barnacles, deviate at your own risk, derps, it will still be there an' working'
asciilifeform: it isn't as if the heathens read, or ever read, it
asciilifeform: it'd be 'supreme court' for the whatever As connected.
mircea_popescu: and as it should be.
asciilifeform: btw 'block node' per mircea_popescu's cut , doesn't have to be a 'daemonic' process at all, even. can run as 1shot cmdline util, that can be asked to eat a candidate-block ( and report success/failure ), or disgorge a previously-accepted block (by header , or by height) ; then terminates
BingoBoingo: Anyways, as many republicitas as los senors.
BingoBoingo: trinque: As far as the racks themselves. Ready within 72 hours of signing a contract and paying for them, but IP address block from LACNIC will take 2 weeks from application to allocation.
mircea_popescu: we have, as the man says, A problem.
asciilifeform: and as 'ship is made to sail', knob -- is made to turn.
trinque: I agree with that as well.
asciilifeform: iirc recent prb ( as analyzed by jurov, still digging for the thread ) will simply drop you if you connect and report <0.7 .
asciilifeform: trinque: that knob is there, to be turned. i've no argument that 'version dun matter', it may well matter. but oughta be tested correctly, as indep. variable.
mats: in regular practice i'm uncertain how to masquerade as prb without running a heathen node and plugging trb into that
mircea_popescu: we have no isp. we can't as much as fucking hire a chinese girl.
mircea_popescu: trinque i gathered you moved from knob set to x to knob set to y ; that's not the same as a "do this experiment".
trinque: it is not as though I restarted the trb node once, said "oh ok, worx nao"
mircea_popescu: it's funny how ll works as j[olly]j[oker] : it's sh in the south, moves to g in colombia, it's y normally...
asciilifeform: so trinque , yer node synced on account of being reset. as in more or less every previous case of 'my node stalled, i changed knob K, and reset, and bam! , synced , knob K must be reason' -- it's the reset.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-04 00:55 asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu , as you can probably tell, if node misses the window when $block was being actively thrown at it, then it has only these two knobs for attempting to get it
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755750 << consider http://trilema.com/2015/facebook-sends-traffic11eleven/#comment-123260 ; how do you distinguish wordmagic 1 from wordmagic2 as in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755597 ? ☝︎☝︎
phf: i think correct method would really be to get the transaction out as a binary array into shiva, and then have a transaction parser in shiva itself that'll break it down into a sexp or whatever ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: sure, could be reasonable to dump to <txid>.bin in my mind as well
mircea_popescu: most of them are too anxious to actually answer a phonecall (too much pressure! i only talk to my parents!) ; most of them are actually unaware of the web as such.
ben_vulpes: had display on the outside, could read texts without opening the thing. had google maps; internet over cell; a marvelous little device. great camera for the time as well.
ben_vulpes: i guess this is new as of the lifted ban on interpreters and compilers?
asciilifeform: '...this linguistic battle is inherently non-winnable, as can be seen from how every term that was originally meant to be non-offensive, such as “moron”, “retarded” and “imbecile”, always became a schoolyard insult in short order. ... This is inevitable because the underlying reality that these words refer to is horrifying, and everyone can see how bad it would be to get hit on the head ...'
asciilifeform: ( there is not, notably, any possibility of a pill that dun force cpointerism ; as gnatv is at birth a cpointeristic turd )
asciilifeform: it relies , as is obvious , on the guts of gnat's main() initializer, that sets the turds . but in so far as i can tell , it is the same in all known gnats
asciilifeform: just as easily it is possible to give it a 'here's an empty string of length L to take a shit into, for each cmdline param, and if the actual exceeds it, trigger constrainterror'
BingoBoingo: Outside of tourist and mega business areas the trend seems to polished interiors while letting exeteriors do as they do.
asciilifeform: eh those ac units look as chronologically '80s as ipad.
mircea_popescu: though ALL SORTS of rank imbeciles, such as that "pirate party" fucktard, had complaints of the proofy proof flavour. ☟︎
phf: there's two sbcl apologists further in thread, one of them saying "I don't mind provocative /per se/, but what you were saying gives the a| impression that SBCL is willfully bad, as opposed to in development. But lumping it in with willfully noncompliant systems for this reason, | given it's version number, is inappropriate." and the other one is a core dev saying that they might add it. of course the expected behavior is still not there
a111: Logged on 2017-12-20 19:00 trinque: I dunno why orcograms aren't done the same way as image formats. doesn't need to be built into the OS.
trinque: I dunno why orcograms aren't done the same way as image formats. doesn't need to be built into the OS. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( at least as much so as my other gentoo boxen )
phf: past _THREE_YEARS_), thus it cannot ever act as (even an infereior) gcc
phf: version of tcc as far as I can tell, one which will never build an
phf: "then told me that I had to abandon my cleanup work and start over on his tree, and explain everything to his satisfaction (as a Windows guy) before it could go in"
mircea_popescu: funny how the "days gone by" immediately reconstruct themselves just as soon as one ditches the rotten principles preventing them.
diana_coman: for the very impatient: caller fails on the cases where it uses that broken macro i.e. any shift by a multiple of BITS_PER_MPI_LIMB; 0 is just one case, not the only one; further up, caller avoids the issue, as stated
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-20#1754999 <- it is broken anyway, yes; at the very top it works as I said: by avoiding it basically; in any case, hang on until tomorrow as next chapter will have to be patching this and sorting it out ☝︎
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phf: plan9 rewrote their soelim as a shell script..
mircea_popescu: and ftr, there's no excuse to EVEN HAVE soelim at all ; let alone as a standalone wtf
phf: i've actually recently went through an exercise of trying to spin up knuth's plain tex as a standalone typesetting system. it's nearly impossible
asciilifeform: i eat it as a ж for sumreason
mircea_popescu: zs is a transliteration of a sound in some language i speak, it got eaten as such
asciilifeform: * fit into 16 bits; as of Unicode 5 valid code points range from 0