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spyked: @world, though this is not needed in early install); 5. send gcc 5.4 into oblivion (should have no dependencies left by now). I can do a more detailed write-up if still needed. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-18 06:55 ben_vulpes: likely has to do with that this box is running gcc 5.4.0, i think i have to figure out how to make a gentoo with gcc 4.9
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-18#1740268 <-- coincidentally, I've been working on a very similar thing this week-end. managed to get rid of gcc 5.4 through a variation on https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Upgrading_GCC ; compressed steps: 1. install heathen stage3; 2. right after minimal setup (timezone, locale etc.), install gcc 4.9.4, and switch to it as default using gcc-config; 3. mask gcc >=5 in portage; 4. rebuild @system (and/or ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 22:41 asciilifeform: !~later tell ben_vulpes https://github.com/threonorm/simulisp/blob/master/SCHEME-79/SCHEME-79%20Lisp%20on%20a%20chip.pdf << ( yes, pdf, it's an ancient scan, 1981 ) very spiffy review article by sussman re the famous scheme79 chip; also pertinent to anyone writing simple lisptrons of whatever kind
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 14:22 diana_coman: oh, ugh; and yes, now you mention it I think it was same-change in Ro too
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1738883 <-- pascal still in ro highschool curriculum afaik. ro school has much bigger problems, in the vein of http://trilema.com/2011/la-ce-imi-serveste-mie-radicalurile/ being asked not only by students, but by teachers themselves! (e.g. I once received q from teacher: "what's more important, physics or mathematics?" "both, bitch! and nao stop amputating those curricula!") ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 19:53 asciilifeform: phf: my understanding is that author was simply doing homework
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1738140 <-- ftr, I am following phf's initial advice re. reading lisp in small pieces; this, along with kogge's book. but at snail's pace (code easier to write than read) ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 19:03 jurov: a111: strings are sequences, not lists. cons/car/cdr does not apply, there's different set of functions for these
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737956 <-- but lists are sequences too, and strings can be represented as lists. this becomes problematic when O(1) random accesses are needed. if/when that happens, I will have to implement arrays, but until then... strings are lists-of-characters. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 18:50 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737529 << that doesn't sound right, read and eval are distinct phases, by the time you get to eval you shouldn't be operating with strings when but instead with interned symbols (i.e. things that can be eq'd in lisp and pointer equivalent on c machine level)
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737923 <-- also, spyked's adalisp is missing more fundamental things, such as closures. it's an early prototype, barely usable, but > 0. interning is of course considered, but not added yet. anyway, phf, consider the following point: built-in symbols (car, cons, etc.) still have to point *somewhere*, and that somewhere must not be addressed in a C-machine style! symbols should point to Lisp memory (via ☝︎☟︎☟︎
spyked: #t has had a lot of interesting discussed! finally ate them up.
mircea_popescu: there's been a lot of that going around.
mircea_popescu: i suppose by the time twice the supermarket price per item is hardly worth a bitcoin transacton, we might be well advised to revisit that "ancient" http://trilema.com/2015/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/ piece from two years ago.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-02 01:00 mircea_popescu: but anyway, lulzy "duel" of talking points from the libtards and really-not-libtards-promise. they all agree russia doesn't matter and that hillary will somehow win the "elections", but you're more than free to connect the rest of the dots any way you please ? hurr durr.
mircea_popescu: this is getting fucking ridiculous, for the record. human sums (as defined by supermarket practice) totally unworth bothering with dust in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: they're the premier driver behind the "need to pack sardines tighter" "technologies".
mircea_popescu: so whenever silicon valley is doing something other than circlejerking, is building ways for various "public protections" invented by dnc / usg.blue / tammany hall to NOT apply.
mircea_popescu: lism was long ago disarmed by a democratic process increasingly dominated by powerful groups with economic interests antithetical to competitors and consumers. And the courts, from which the victims of burdensome regulation sought protection, have been negotiating the terms of surrender since the 1930s." ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 05:53 BingoBoingo: And in appcidental research into the market value of SUTO grad student labor: "Images of delivery take-home pay amounts posted to the Instacart shoppers’ Facebook group show recent instances where workers are sometimes making less than minimum wage for several hours of work. One woman showed $16.95 for seven hours of work in Jackson, Mississippi. Another said she was paid $13.30 for a three-hour job in St. Louis, Missouri. Yet anothe
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741080 << the WHOLE POINT of usg.sv "tech" is to get around the "The Hettingas’ sense of ill-usage is understandable. So is their consternation at being confronted with the gap between the rhetoric of free markets and the reality of ubiquitous regulation. The Hettingas’ collision with the MREA—the latest iteration of the venerable AMAA—reveals an ugly truth: America’s cowboy capita ☝︎
diana_coman: eh, I suspect nowadays you don't even need that; after all you've been named "adofdifjYYY" to be unique and so on to start with
mircea_popescu: "how to make a name for yourself quickly"
diana_coman: well, the eternal dream : it will be easy and fast and so on
mircea_popescu: and it won't even need any work. not even much time. twenty pages. large script. three pages. a matchbox back!
mircea_popescu: YOU CAN TRAIN THE AVERAGE MALE INTO SUCCESS!
mircea_popescu: it's all in the wrist, see.
mircea_popescu: imagine that mound of sexual enthusiasm coming at you.
mircea_popescu: "Your initial state when seeing women you want is very important: the right one will cause you to approach them, the wrong one will panic and confuse you - preventing you from taking any action to ever meet them. If you do not meet them you almost certainly CANNOT have sex with them. Your internal state when you first see an attractive woman must be one of sexual enthusiasm, horniness, and unapologetic desire."
diana_coman: the way it goes then is that "but they weren't supposed to be like THAT!"
mircea_popescu: maybe if he took teh red pill ? do you think wikireddit could help him ? if he were more... less... i mean... if he where the fuck's that gunwitch dood.
mircea_popescu: but, democracy, rite ? gotta provide housing, food, loose shoes and a warm hole to sploodge in for ALL THESE.
diana_coman: if that did at least something....; and ugh
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i think it's evident women are to blame!
diana_coman: ah, "sorta girlfriend", can be; onth I did stumble upon all sorts of reports from the other side: "my bf is all the time on his xbox, wut do" and so on
mircea_popescu: i don't think she knows.
mircea_popescu: relieve. So even the idea of having to sell everything is killing me inside and stressing me. This is unfortunately causing problems with my (sorta) girlfriend since I just can't bring myself to get into anything sexual while it's on my mind. I feel bad that I am letting my personal problems affect her, but I don't know how to get myself into a better situation."
mircea_popescu: in related lulz, "Financial Struggles & Relationships, Journal Entry | 3 minutes ago : So I'm moving soon and am trying to scrape together enough money to pay for the move and for school fees so that I can get enrolled and back to classes. In order to do this, I basically have to sell all my gaming stuff since I don't qualify for any loans. The problem with that is that gaming is my life and pretty much my main form of stress
diana_coman: then they should add tambour de livre too at least
mircea_popescu: oh, retroversion of "throw in the towel"
mircea_popescu: wtf is the former ?
diana_coman: unrelated: asciilifeform's dic has this weird "a arunca buretele" but doesn't have "a caca steagul"!!!11
diana_coman: myeah, that's my "same thing by now anyway"
mircea_popescu: teenagers ? these are 30yos.
diana_coman: but I suppose it's about the same thing by now anyway
diana_coman: tbh it sounds more like teenage kids with too much pocket money or something
diana_coman: wtf that upspin; ftr the answers are no, no, no and NO, who has such "problems" anyway
mircea_popescu: (notes : desomorphine, item standing with heroin in about same relation tub-brewed methamphetamine stands with adderall) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 03:46 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728845 << update on Madonna of the Yarnwinder auction... sold for ~only~ $450mn.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 03:41 shinohai: Take a handful, write entire Romanian dictionary by hand in 2 nights.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741055 << if only that's how it worked. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if these kinds of non-items, memetic prions are anywhere in your mental space, you're suffering, from a disease. "if you're reading it, it's for you", and it's for you because you've already got a heavy load of misfolded protein. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's not merely a shame that "such problems" are continuously "identified" by idiots, but that the scream for help universally goes unheeded. if you think ~about~ such things as upspin.io, i don't mean if you're "working" at them or anything like that, if you merely think ABOUT them you're certifiably SUTO. get the fuck out, completely, right now, it's a worse addiction than krakadil. parts of your body are falling off!
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 06:06 mircea_popescu: btw, is that the new "african american" pc term ? i seem to recall chapelle making a big deal out of wanting to be called a "custodian" in one of those hennifer-lopez level horrifyingly bad flicks he keeps churning out.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 03:32 zod_: what do y'all think of http://upspin.io/ ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-20#1741043 << more of the same nonsense. whoever is involved in that should drop everything they're doing, quit their "job", give away their "devices", burn down their "books", tell all their "friends" to go fucking kill themselves and take a curator (see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721615 ) job for a year or so while eating nothing but tmsr logs. ☝︎☝︎
cazalla: guess fly back and forth in attempt to be a dad without guilt lol
cazalla: ah, def gonna go and spend some time there and surrounding countries
cazalla: i imagine that would get struck down on account of it being a NATO state
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Maybe start an ISP in Poland, keep backup plan in case tanks start rolling?
cazalla: maybe learn to fly
cazalla: BingoBoingo, who knows, time will tell i guess, not sure what else to do with myself besides this idea anyway
cazalla: lol pm from vexual, was outside watering the plants m80
BingoBoingo: Don't have to fixate on Poland though, could look to Romania and be the alfneighbor
cazalla: not that poland would be some paradise but step up from here, and i think kids would benefit from another language, young enough to pick up polish as first language instead of english
cazalla: really dont want to send them to school here :\
cazalla: will be easier getting it for the kids, i'm thinking convince missus we go for 6 month holiday, then buy and just stay
BingoBoingo: One could always make more kids with the Polish girls. Just make sure to get at least three so the jealousy keeps each in line.
cazalla: yeah, doing it from here, but they translate my documents and submit paperwork and apparently can take a while.. 3, 6, 12 months once all is said and done from start (kicked it off maybe 4 months ago getting dox) to finish
BingoBoingo: Ah, is it one that might be easier to get in country?
cazalla: the leaving part... i had downed almost a bottle of vodka, would like to buy a place there and take the kids with me but leaving them would be a bit much
cazalla: they drag their ass on paperwork so who knows on the citizenship part
BingoBoingo: What's your timeline to Poland looking like?
cazalla: BingoBoingo, safe travels
cazalla: not shitfaced this time :)
BingoBoingo: r woman posted a screenshot for $2.80 after doing a two-hour pickup and delivery in Austin, Texas."
BingoBoingo: And in appcidental research into the market value of SUTO grad student labor: "Images of delivery take-home pay amounts posted to the Instacart shoppers’ Facebook group show recent instances where workers are sometimes making less than minimum wage for several hours of work. One woman showed $16.95 for seven hours of work in Jackson, Mississippi. Another said she was paid $13.30 for a three-hour job in St. Louis, Missouri. Yet anothe ☟︎
pete_dushenski: and then there are those who take it too literally http://neemic.asia/image/data/blog_images/wang%20lei0%20copy.jpg
pete_dushenski: aha. "modern art" is often just so soiled as to be rightfully confused for tp.
asciilifeform: important bit is that it be authenticable.
asciilifeform: often enuff ugly as used toiletpaper.
pete_dushenski: much prettier than btc too but that mostly depends on how much you're turned on by p2p network mechanics
pete_dushenski: "Maybe the $450 million is just a function of how rich the world's richest people have become. The price needed to be that high, just for them to notice the money." << salmon is right here at least. stacks of gov-backed paper just don't feel like all that much these days.
pete_dushenski: "At some level, the $450 million number is so big as to be meaningless. If I told you that the painting was bought for 60,000 bitcoins, would that make it easier to stomach?" << lulzomatic commentary on said auction from felix salmon https://tinyletter.com/felixsalmon/letters/nota-bene-10
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 18:02 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski considering the current bezzle pressure / overwhelming inflation and the very personal-brand-oriented populace, it will probably be 1bn just to be able to say 1bn.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728845 << update on Madonna of the Yarnwinder auction... sold for ~only~ $450mn. ☝︎☟︎
pete_dushenski wasn't a steller uni student. played too much poker.
pete_dushenski: aha you sneaky chemist you. making me recall my organic chem from uni! i actually really enjoyed that class. it was one of my better marks in first year. b!
BingoBoingo: many things can be dex rotary
BingoBoingo: Thinking dexedrine is the only dex isomered thing is racis
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I am pretty sure most of us thing "levo"
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 19:19 mircea_popescu: an antique and therefore reliable copy of the dex (dictionar explicativ al limbii romane). 80 mb's worth.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740754 << am i the only one who can't read "dex" without thinking "dexedrine" ? phf ? ☝︎☟︎
zod_: BingoBoingo my dad lives in new york and drives a taxi. and my mom hopes he's gonna die soon.
BingoBoingo: zod_ Let's get to know each other first? Who is your daddy and what does he do?
zod_: what do y'all think of http://upspin.io/ ? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Arrival in Montevideo arranged for Dec 6th, at same time as departing prior day. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it was promised to me in 1995!11111 << HYPERCARD!!!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> anyway, srsly, married guy with small kids. gotta bring home some kind of bacon. he tried to put that idea into work, with you recall, betting something. imo did a great run of it, too. but it didn't catch. so he tried something else and that caught better. << AHA, does not have young unmarried unchilded option of hardware store to contribute minmally to USGism on principle