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mircea_popescu: i had this two-battery, no port radio as a 12yo boy.
mircea_popescu: which is my point here : ipod is not a thing to be, much like "american cuisine" is not a thing to be.
mircea_popescu: ipod was a thing like ipad was a thing, or like groupon was a thing : no sort of thing
mircea_popescu: because it never fucking did. it was temporarily "a thing", in the sense of, hyped up ~name~ for a category, about as inconsequential as whatever other name.
mircea_popescu: speaking of a minor point above : mp tried to find slut an ipod, so she can listen to music while woprking out. mp discovered ~ipod item no longer exists~, not at used electronic shops, NOT AT POND SHOPS.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's other pt, tho, i gotta entirely agree with -- the item is a stupidity summer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was, from a technologically perspective, about on par with the canvas-wing biplane.
mircea_popescu: the whole wikileaks debacle demonstrated however not just that the web is not a thing, but rather that the libertard concept of "civil society" is actually ~a myth~ rather than an object
mircea_popescu: at its origin, it was envisaged as this cvasi-magical "perfect systematic solution to a large set of previously ununderstood problems". part and parcel of this, the (in retrospect) ridiculous blather of the wikitard as to the "human knowledge" and other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850928 slash huxleyan nonsense, "transhumanism" blablabla. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ftr, cuz this is interesting from a cultural history perspective : the "web", as an item in the socio-conceptual space, died ~with assange~, and not with wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-01#1899937 << item of least concern currently, pretty much the only public use for a toiletbox is "web proxy the republic". ☝︎
diana_coman: it cites the title + a few words from the page linked
diana_coman: in other lolz, #musl has a "feepbot"
diana_coman: quite a bunch of issues on the arm it seems, yes
asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato. tho i did find that the arm build won't build a x86 gnat ( still afaik mystery )
diana_coman: in good news, it seems that the static-only ave1-gnat builds itself fine (with the tarballs ofc so ultimately still relying on the corpse but at least that's frozen and the whole thing is NOT relying anymore on a deployed adacore)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-01#1899918 << iirc trinque baked a working musltronic apache at one pt ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 09:03 phf: this really has been a low priority item until i moved to russia, but now i'm stuck in secular hell, so this whole subject elicits only anger and i'd rather something good actually came out of it.
asciilifeform: next thing there will be a 45 deg. shot, to find what side the die is even on
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-01#1899892 << the xray setup is really for the pcb (not done yet, but film is here.) the ic shot is so possibly to figure out where to cut, right nao i have 3 ~different~ packages, so if i cut one and smash it , doesn't tell me anything useful re how to try again, it's a 'measure 7777 times, cut 1ce' situation. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-26 23:21 asciilifeform: !Q later tell spyked that gutenberg tarball -- didja get a chance to auto-kill all of the header liquishit ? i'd prefer to mirror a flensed copy, the 50kB of 'this text copyright wikitards(tm)(r)' is eyesore
spyked: update re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-26#1899440 : it's almost done, I'll document it and post the new archive sometime next week. long story short: the headers/footers are non-standard, so it's taken me a while to find the proper grep recipes. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i see phf's having a blast tho!
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-01#1899820 << will have a look at mes; so far potential deadline -- next weekend. ☝︎☟︎
bvt: i do not expect to see a lot of exceptions from sjlj
bvt: re sjlj/zcx: i guess i'd stick with a variant of c (http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897694): sjlj by default, use zcx only when facing high overhead from sjlj AND where this is possible due to threading model. ☝︎
phf: this really has been a low priority item until i moved to russia, but now i'm stuck in secular hell, so this whole subject elicits only anger and i'd rather something good actually came out of it. ☟︎
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 1 day, 8 hours, and 12 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> i hate to become 'thread necromancer', but would really like a resolution of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875722 & the related quandaries some time before i die of old age. plox to comment.
asciilifeform: as for server, iirc it's a pure diana_coman matter , and still in the worx
asciilifeform: pretty sure it's a noise, i.e. one can't usefully milk the circuit from it
a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 01:58 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-28#1899802 << this ties directly into above. it's not a problem of "these engineers did not do enough". it's not an engineering problem at all. it's 100% political, "these sorry schmucks passed themselves off for an authority they could never possibly be". this'll never wash, and in particular indigence is the worst possible plea they could bring. if they ALSO are poor then THEREFORE even LESS q
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-28#1899802 << this ties directly into above. it's not a problem of "these engineers did not do enough". it's not an engineering problem at all. it's 100% political, "these sorry schmucks passed themselves off for an authority they could never possibly be". this'll never wash, and in particular indigence is the worst possible plea they could bring. if they ALSO are poor then THEREFORE even LESS q ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 20:47 asciilifeform: bvt: i started with the supposition that it was built for irons where there is no time slicer , but currently nfi whether this is so, or whether was simply a kludge for no particular reason
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-28#1899801 << it's a methodologically defensible "charitable read" ; nevertheless not actually supported by the facts, as it happens. this dun invalidate the method i dun think. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the point you pursue would be A LOT more defensible among the honorable poor, people who say "we did this much and intend to do this much more when we can".
mircea_popescu: there's really no rule there must be crap "made available" to "the public". a) there's no such thing as "the public" and b) srsly now. do it right or go the fuck home, tell wifey your troubles.
a111: Logged on 2015-08-19 00:18 asciilifeform: cabbie: 'this ford is a piece of shit. stalled again.' mircea_popescu: 'i have a solution!' cabbie: 'oh???111' mircea_popescu: 'here, have this broomstick.' cabbie: 'how do i drive customers on that, feed my family' mircea_popescu: 'you misunderstand, my good man. you stuff it in your arse.' cabbie: 'and... how does this feed by family?' mircea_popescu: 'no, you sit there with it in.'
asciilifeform: a very http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-19#1243116 answr ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-28#1899789 << but ofcouars. "requires netbase" too, i'm sure. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: a most infuriating implementation of broken-by-design, ironically exactly the thing foss was supposed to prevent.
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-23#1898712 << i would also like to have a deeper look at this 'mes' item. is this ok? ☝︎
asciilifeform: cuz that'd be interesting. i initially supposed that it was built as a 'lowest common denominator', i.e. without presumption that os supports preemption
asciilifeform: bvt: didja turn up a zcx version with working abort ?!
asciilifeform: btw there were a great many 1990s os that behaved exactly like zcx model -- no preemption, tasks run until they yield or self-terminate. e.g. win9x, crapple os <= 9, etc
asciilifeform: bvt: i started with the supposition that it was built for irons where there is no time slicer , but currently nfi whether this is so, or whether was simply a kludge for no particular reason ☟︎
diana_coman: in truth, they do say "coding standard verification" but I suspect that means whether a piece of code follows whatever convention specified for that project, hm
asciilifeform: it aint a bug.
asciilifeform aint about to use a closed turd compiler , regardless, for any practical work. but still finds the q of 'is there a standard-compliant adatron somewhere' not wholly uninteresting
bvt: zcx is a recent item, https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/osdi2000/wiess2000/full_papers/dinechin/dinechin_html/index.html
asciilifeform: last i looked, didn't turn up a leaked copy anywhere.
diana_coman: but I suspect it's simply one of those "you should prefer" a la http://ossasepia.com/2018/07/14/cutting-mysql-into-musl-shape/#selection-47.98-47.160
a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 17:51 mircea_popescu: in any case, there's no basis for a standard-breaking runtime here. "oh, it gains some speed in corner case", gimme a break, go implement the standard.
mircea_popescu: then computers turn around and it's all "oh, you know, what, this compuiter could cook vegetables one slice of each at a time" "and wash knife in between ?!" "of course!"
mircea_popescu: entirely possible. there's a large tower of "too smart for own britches" usually hiden behind these "blac arts"
mircea_popescu: i was thinking, "what's a slice anyway"
asciilifeform: btw when we plant gnatism on bare irons, will have to implement a scheduler, and it is 'black art' of sorts ( how big to make the quantum ? how to apportion slices to cores ? etc )
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, it's a vestige from days of running on os with no scheduler (dos etc)
mircea_popescu: in any case, there's no basis for a standard-breaking runtime here. "oh, it gains some speed in corner case", gimme a break, go implement the standard. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in any case, it seems the heathen claim that "it is faster" is only true in a very narrow corner. otherwise--false.
asciilifeform: really oughta have a backplane connector, also ( the actual rk, takes up good 70-80% of enclosure space with cabling and legs )
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform would luvv a rk-like item baked by sane folx, could easily be half the size or smaller, i.e. w/out the useless ports, and perhaps with e.g. sata instead )
asciilifeform: rk actually has a video port, but asciilifeform baked the kernel w/out support for it
BingoBoingo: Well I plug the monitor into a blue VGA port
mircea_popescu: a well then!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun have a 10MeV source ( do you ?? ) . tho i suppose one could float the thing on balloon and hope to get lucky with cosmic ray..
asciilifeform went to compute mircea_popescu's q, 'just how much did it eat', apparently it's a bitch : absorption constant varies by chip, and in heavy industry folx mostly gave up , they stick dosimetric film underneath the board. i'ma get an upper bound tho, it's important q when we do the bitflip thing.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 20:45 asciilifeform: apu2 dun have a vga, for instance.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 00:29 mod6: If inquiring minds would like to know, happy to elaborate. But I'll put up a blog post about it sometime before the end of the weekend I suspect.
asciilifeform: so, to answ http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-28#1899681 , it's a fat 0. as known even 100y ago.. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: or at least put a geiger to the smoldering remains ?
mircea_popescu: even a sheet of legal pad exposes in half an hour.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can calculate the probability function of a single atom being moved, which'd be the quantum of gate breakage.
asciilifeform: re flipped bits -- actually considered soft xray as a potential diddle for e.g. google's fritz chip. possibly worth a shot at some pt.
mircea_popescu: "orlov either graduated or dropped out from college, and could turn competent prose if kept on a short leash, but he tended to believe he can actually be in charge of things. left to his own devices, he indulged in antireality boat designs and ridiculous sociopolitical systematization."
mircea_popescu: this is actually a great orlov piece ; once he abandons his nonsensical hallucinations of "having grasped the big picture" and takes up simple description he's actually quite readable.
mircea_popescu: "Another housemate, George, had a vicious temperament and had been in and out of jail many times. He was permanently one parole violation away from ending up back “on the inside” and had long given up any hope of getting his driver’s license back. He had been virile and fecund and had a couple of former wives who had taken out restraining orders against him and several children whom he wasn’t allowed to see. George wa
mircea_popescu: makes a definitive piece, basically.
mircea_popescu: you knjow, the micron at a time might be a good thing to do ~anyway~.
asciilifeform: it's not even clear that this dance is req'd, of yet, seems like there's a lid which simply needs to come off, on these
asciilifeform: can grind off micron at a time.
mod6: If inquiring minds would like to know, happy to elaborate. But I'll put up a blog post about it sometime before the end of the weekend I suspect. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 19:28 mircea_popescu: you put in a violet source, take a pic. next you put in a green source, take a pic. next, yellow and red.
asciilifeform: ( not today. and not tomorrow ; but asciilifeform would ~really~ not rather end up having a second http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881965 thrd ! when revving up the saw. ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 16:26 phf: asciilifeform: before you agree to a decap, give me some more time to get you the docs, maybe they'll be enough to get things going. i'd hate to lose an ivory to get some pretty but useless pictures, i'd rather it fry on a breadboard in the process of directed discovery
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf i hate to become 'thread necromancer', but would really like a resolution of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875722 & the related quandaries some time before i die of old age. plox to comment. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did not know. but it's a fairly basic observation, and i expect it occurs regularly to mircea_popescu & other thinking folx when seriously thinking re 'wai pc sux'
mircea_popescu: whereas there's also a proper technology, which does not.
mircea_popescu: in short, there's a kind of "technology" that produces recursively these sorts of nooks and crannies for "nature, by itself" to return
mircea_popescu: certainly not. yet -- it makes a point, specifically that the whole "natura expellas" is a problem not so much of nature but rather of the nature of the expeller.
asciilifeform: iirc there was a site that had this js dosbox thing, for old games, some even ran. (it's no way to live, imho, tho)
mircea_popescu: right. but -- and this is the truly painful part -- for a ~defensible~ reason. he was doing it instead of tcc ~for rms's failure to rule~.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure there's a windows emulated in javascript somewhere.
asciilifeform: apu2 dun have a vga, for instance. ☟︎
asciilifeform: hrm you defo dun want to build a kernel for a dulap-style machine with 'apu2' config
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun expect you'll want to eat the whole article, but it sums to quite a bag of lulz : can run entire proggy in the 'speculated' parallel universe, in such a way that it dun logically exist on e.g. by-the-book emulator, but only on post-2009 shitcpu
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899468 << the thing didn't work out, but principally owing to ustardian incompetence (they failed to pay protection money, because they think they're mussolini or some duim shit). little to do with your ideal of humanity, merely a practical application of the superiority of patriarchy. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 00:22 asciilifeform: sorta how in ru today 1e6 lolcat watchers for erry d00d with half a brain who builds pdp with own hands. whereas in 1990 , 1e6 builders of pdp and 0 lolcat.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899452 << this'd be precisely why spawning's a waste of republican time. the daughter of random orcs from africa makes just as good a putative slavegirl, the son of random chinese provincial governors makes just as good putative meat for the noose as anything your missus could be bringing you home. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899446 << pretty sure there was a ONE mcd in havana, best-korea style. ☝︎
lobbesbot: diana_coman: Sent 6 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> were you able to build a working ave1gnat with sjljism ? or is that still an open puzzler?