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asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman has 1 in asia somewhere also
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 17:55:26 diana_coman: test line citing works, quite nice
asciilifeform: i can't imagine diana_coman is the only 1
asciilifeform: diana_coman: go ahead and make a 'centos' in /contrib or where were these, in vtree, other folx may want'em
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-31 13:24:01 diana_coman: asciilifeform: thank you; I haven't yet set the cron jobs, yes; will do it later today.
asciilifeform: if next patch is diana_coman's -- invited to put in cron etc.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i noticed that your db snapshot link dun go yet. here is example, how mine worx. and here is the crontab. can adjust paths for yours.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 12:07:47 diana_coman: name's ossabot so can haz !o maybe?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 12:06:34 diana_coman: yeeeee, works and test-live at logs.ossasepia.com (185.163.46.29)
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932253 << congrats diana_coman! I tip my hat to your beating me to the finish line
asciilifeform: diana_coman: from where loaded ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: look in reader.py to see why, i made it default to selected chan ( for if folx want to substitute it for phf's on their blogs )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: doesn't your default /log go to #o ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: a++
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 16:31:43 asciilifeform: diana_coman's actually faster, from usa, than mine .
asciilifeform: diana_coman's actually faster, from usa, than mine .
asciilifeform: meanwhile diana_coman's log appears to be a++ current. pretty neat.
asciilifeform: aand it's made of junkyard parts ( see diana_coman's laments ) . at some pt we will have a civilized, human replacement.
asciilifeform: press asciilifeform's vtree and follow the readme ( with diana_coman's nitpick from 12h ago , re the createdb step )
asciilifeform: mod6: consider standing up a log mirror, like diana_coman today. it is relatively imho 'light' exercise, oughta be good for morale of mod6 , and makes very useful result .
asciilifeform: girlattorney: diana_coman lives here + in her chan #ossasepia .
asciilifeform: girlattorney: re colo -- talk with diana_coman , who has been surveying various colos. ( piz is pretty packed in re trb, has no fewer than 3 operating nodes . and really these benefit from being dispersed geographically, rather than concentrated in 1-2 cages ! )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: dun fughet to put bot & reader in cron, '@reboot ...' etc
asciilifeform: diana_coman: how didja fill in the lines ? /raw/ and by hand ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: observe btw that the bot config allows to put ~list~ of fleanode endpoints. so it is not necessary to use the default rotation dnsism, can in fact do like mp_en_viaje does and put list of favourites
asciilifeform: ty for making mirror, diana_coman !
asciilifeform: diana_coman: well why not it talk when given links to own log
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i think it needs a green light from mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932187 << loox, btw, that diana_coman has a working mirror ! so neveragain 'ooops no l0gz!', ha.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 08:52:51 diana_coman: apparently transfagarasan not that well covered, lol
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma cycle the dumper manually . go and load the 'raw dump link' in 30s or so. (and if anyone speaks between now and when you import it, can fill the hole with the raw export knob and eater.py )
asciilifeform: why ty diana_coman .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia-test/2019-08-30#1000017 << you'll prolly want to swap that link for wherever you keep your personal vtree
asciilifeform: diana_coman: seems to work !!
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Thank you
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/static/piz.jpg Here's one. I'll try to dig for where the rest of the mod6 banners are. Searching the #pizarro logs returned 404'd links
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i tested the bot by setting chan to e.g. #asciilifeform-test . can do similar, then you can use whatever unregged nick etc (dun fughet to set pw to empty then)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: dun fughet to set up the config knobs (per readme)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: mine's on nginx. but something like this oughta work
asciilifeform: oh hey diana_coman , worx ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 05:30:10 diana_coman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932144 - do you mean cuntoo or what exactly?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 21:09:24 asciilifeform: diana_coman: you'd need to bake pg glue for ada, there aint any
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 21:02:32 diana_coman: asciilifeform: so then what, I'm still better off writing the bot in C or what?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 20:59:22 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i vaguely suspect that this is the thing that discouraged past folx who made loggers, from genesising. 'dafuq is the point, likely no one can even replicate this'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 20:52:37 diana_coman: he's on gentoo so it should be more similar to your env/packages/versions though
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 18:27:23 diana_coman: to cite from flask's description, for full allergy-triggers: A micro-framework for Python based on Werkzeug, Jinja 2 and good intentions
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 18:09:05 diana_coman: centos 6; because gentoo problem as you just described + the poor moldavian guys anyway pretty much @kukuruz
spyked: diana_coman, yeah, well I suppose that's another reason why the manifest mechanism is useful: if I signed a patch P at t1, and later I found out that it does something stupid or subtly malicious or whatever; then at t2 I can sign the "inverse" to P and give context to that signature in the manifest (whoever tries to press that has to know why particularly I made some change)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 13:25:11 diana_coman: but it's a more difficult thing to catch as it were: as above, it's unclear if "no signature" is a sign of "seeking to hide imperfection" or of "no read" or wtf already
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 18:21:10 asciilifeform: diana_coman: rly it oughta be in tmsr-adalisp (tm)(r) but this apparently dun exist yet.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 20:52:37 diana_coman: he's on gentoo so it should be more similar to your env/packages/versions though
asciilifeform: goodnight diana_coman
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you'd need to bake pg glue for ada, there aint any
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma jump with a parachute made of garbage bags before writing www-facing proggy in c, but maybe that's just me..
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i vaguely suspect that this is the thing that discouraged past folx who made loggers, from genesising. 'dafuq is the point, likely no one can even replicate this'
asciilifeform: diana_coman i'm curious how you went about installing the libs on yours
asciilifeform: diana_coman: on testbed , print flask.__version__ >> 0.10.1 ; python --version >> 2.7.5 ;
asciilifeform: diana_coman: naturally and postgres. i was speaking of the py glues.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i never posted that variant, imho it is useless moving part
asciilifeform: diana_coman: bot is own program and doesn't have any deps (aside from py per se and psycopg)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i at one pt blamed that coupling for the slow, and measured (plain rev.proxy vs 'wsgi' (equiv of php's fastcgi) , found 0 diff
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if it runs, will run, all that's asked of it is to forward a tcp pipe to port x (whichever yer py is on)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you'll want a front end thing for it to live under (prolly apache) also .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: my test bed fwiw used pg 9.4.5 .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: in re pythonisms -- for that matter i'm to ~this day~ ! using my orig v.py (w / phf's 'vdiff' , and your fixup patch.) also because never found in what to rewrite it.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'flask' , 'psycopg', etc. are erry bit as rubbish as the docs suggest. with the twist that the assemblage actually worx ( phuctor's been running, incl. under various abuses , for yrs , on same ) .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: for 2.6 need whole set of vintage liquishits that went with that specific py
asciilifeform: diana_coman: rly it oughta be in tmsr-adalisp (tm)(r) but this apparently dun exist yet.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if i had a palatable answer -- would have written in ~that~, lol
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you (or anyone) rewrite the logger -- i'ma clap
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you decide to fiddle with the proggy so it goes on 2.6, prolly can be done ; but keep in mind that i will not be able to run yours anywhere, there's no 2.6 on any known gentoo of past decade or so.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'flask' is the http shitting lib. i've used same 1 since 2013 (phuctor)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: where didja get a box with 2.6 even
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 2.6 has diff print() syntax from 2.7
asciilifeform: diana_coman: oughta work with 9 and 10, not tried others
asciilifeform: both lobbes and diana_coman , lemme know when yer ready to sync, i'ma manually refresh the db dump
asciilifeform: diana_coman: also imho it'd be neat if you wrote about how built the mirror, nitpicks, etc. for n00bz. ( i did not have time to write a pedantic cookbook, and as you can see even the readme had mistakes )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 16:29:20 diana_coman: asciilifeform: in your logbot readme: shouldn't it be create database nsalog; instead of createdb? at least my postgres chokes on createdb under psql
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931889 << diana_coman this is so, i found recently when making mirror . feel free to submit a patch to amend the readme, otherwise it'll go in my next one.
lobbes is determined to beat diana_coman to getting the 2nd logger online
lobbes: diana_coman: I had same observation: see >> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-17#1929471
trinque: this is the batshit and denuding coad diana_coman wanted !
lobbes: In other news, I just applied the suggested html comments bug fix from diana_coman to blog >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/08/on-relationships-or-how-pretense-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-76
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 18:53:47 asciilifeform: diana_coman: to add a few brush strokes to the picture of usa -- and perhaps already you knew -- 1) most folx get ~0 'vacation'. they nominally get '2 wks' but is reserved in practice for illness ; 2) are paid just enuff to stay alive (and locate themselves within vicinity of the mines) , 2-3 missed weeks of pay means destitution .
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in diana_coman roulette, http://ossasepia.com/2009/11/15/cine-sunt-eu/
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-26 11:06:28 diana_coman: if only code were more denuding and batshit - everyone would want to read it!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: re older logs -- we'll sync these when mircea_popescu comes home to where he had the archive he had fed to phf in '16 . (or perhaps earlier, if phf comes back from grave..)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc that one was actually discussed in early logs
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the tree trunk in asciilifeform's eye, the mote in other's, simply examples!111
asciilifeform: diana_coman: backlog on conveyor 1000km long
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this aint even the most egregious example, there's trb patches ~by asciilifeform~ that have since been reground that iirc i haven't signed yet
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 03:01:02 diana_coman: hm, not sure I follow what's the breakpoint of drive-trust at 100km
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-25 02:45:24 ave1_away: diana_coman: thx! I'm currently in the carpathian mountains, enjoying nature here
ave1_away: diana_coman: thx! I'm currently in the carpathian mountains, enjoying nature here
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-24 11:10:48 diana_coman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-24#1930582 - always good to learn something new but what are you aiming to do exactly?
mircea_popescu: otherwise, you don't specifically need pizarro to do outreach. you can do outreach on your own, on whatever lines are appealing. trilema is displaying a sexual avenue, "building a harem" ; diana_coman 's younghands thing is sorta 2year community college thing, "come and learn the basics of computing for very reasonable tuition". there's nothing wrong with that.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-23 10:25:30 diana_coman: do you still have the bug re html in comments perhaps?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty
deedbot: diana_coman paid BingoBoingo invoice 3
mircea_popescu: ahh, feedbot conveniently pointed to me diana_coman 's comment. this thing is so fucking useful, making me look like a cyborg