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orgndnor: yeah.
that's exactly why i am here, again.
mircea_popescu: you're not making much sense, you know. pick some priors and build a
thread.
orgndnor: respect and all
that shit, i assume
that involves discipline.
orgndnor: well, in fact of matter, genetic appropriation might have relevance
to intellectual heritage
trinque: check out
the walmart discount persona on
this guy
orgndnor: hows
the digital beanie babies, bros?
orgndnor: i guess lock down
til
the fuedalists return
orgndnor: well, i've read a lot of material. most of
the available logs, monsiuer p's blogs...
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-21#1785459 << incidentally,
this doc has been very useful
thus far in illuminating my own naivete. Spent
the last coupla days just learning ultra-basics of, e.g. hash preimage, second preimage, and collision resistance. Hell, I even had
to look up simple big O notation. I am, however, learning it, at least. "One day at a
time"
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 14:52 mircea_popescu: and as
to
the final
thing :
the whole idea of
the archive item (which lobbes asked for and i very much doubt he realised at
the
time what an immense item it is) is
to RECONSTRUCT
the poorly designed "web" into proper structure. hence
the merkle
tree discussions and so on. so very much yes, eventually we'll be using a proper republican accessing scheme.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu:
ty linked on
the WOT:nonperson
text
mod6 is drinking a bottle of water after snow-removal. am quite stunned it doesn't say "Gluten Free" on
the bottle.
BingoBoingo: Seriously. Who could have know so abjectly little would happen between Summer 2017 and
the first half of February 2018
BingoBoingo: Anyways it seems like Qntra returned just in
time
to shit
to start happening again. Just now
the stakes and pantsuit stanks are higher.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-31 14:34 mp_en_viaje: so no, protected mode hasn;'t become because it offered.
the pantsuit decided it must be, and
therefore prevented
the non-mongoloid child from offering.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, if
this
tree is orphaned for whatever reason (such as someone regrinding some chunk
that includes portions downstream from minigame's press point),
the prevailing of
that regrind is ~actually~ based on proper social behaviours. it must have been supported by minigame
too,
to have prevailed ; or else minigame's agency must have been indeed so insignificant as
to warrant some serious self-examination
there.
mircea_popescu: for as long as
this
tree is built upon,
the VERY FACT
that it is built upon guarantees minigame
that it will ALWAYS be able
to build its prerequisites. because in being older
they come earlier in
the press, so you just stop sooner.
mircea_popescu: so suppose
today minigame calls eucrypt complete, and proceeds
to build upon it. suppose later, for whatever reason, something useful is added
to
the
tree (say
the elastic hash item -- as it happens
there can be decent arguments had both pro and against including what's really not
that cryptographic an useful item).
mircea_popescu: anyway, at
the risk of boring
the more advanced minds, let us
take
this opportunity
to harp on
the perfection
that is
the v model.
mircea_popescu: yeah, get a rack with meathooks in
there
too, will double as punishment room jus' fine
mircea_popescu: it's
this huge,
taller-than-person, double-door purely usian abomination unknown in
these lands. i just opened it and
the act apparently upsed
the clever packing scheme used because i ended up covered in items.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 16:03 BingoBoingo: One benefit of prolongued Republican exposure: Every now and
then you come across a coy newsy
thing
that dances around a fact, when
the fact really should have been
the headline.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know what
they say, a
tendency
to bury
the lede in journalism is not unlike a
tendency
to spread legs in a convent : sure signs one does not actually belong
there.
mircea_popescu: ima waste all
the dozens of bytes at a
time i feel like, holy hell "install disc".
TO INSTALL AN X
THAT CRASHES ALL CLIENTS.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with
two separate utilities built on
the same lib exposing different edges. "wasteful" but in a veheheheeeery
theoretical sense, when compared
to 10mb webpages.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, if unix philosophy were anymore
than 15yos notions
that "that's it, now i understand women!"
they very much would be.
mircea_popescu: the reason
they're lib'd
together (in say eucrypt) is rather
the fact
that
they require similar standards of care.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 15:45 mod6: I was
thinking lsat night about my version of V in Ada, and am using shellouts
there for
the gpg related
things. even with an integrated FFA, still need
to add in an integrated Keccac from s.mg -
those
two I can work around. Others might be harder
than it sounds.
BingoBoingo: One benefit of prolongued Republican exposure: Every now and
then you come across a coy newsy
thing
that dances around a fact, when
the fact really should have been
the headline.
☟︎ mod6: brb, gotta remove
the snow here quick.
mod6: But, not impossible. I'm not sure, maybe someone else has better ideas how
to handle
this.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i don't
think shellouts PER SE are a bad idea, or
the wrong
thing, or untenable. much like
the notion of building houses WITH DOORS isn't in itself problematic. now, what gets in
through
those holes, well...
mod6: I was
thinking lsat night about my version of V in Ada, and am using shellouts
there for
the gpg related
things. even with an integrated FFA, still need
to add in an integrated Keccac from s.mg -
those
two I can work around. Others might be harder
than it sounds.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: of course,
the converse view (that complexity is alreadyu added
the moment you shellout
to
them) also holds some water.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> something like "shellouts marked for extinction anyway, no point building on
them" ? << and
this, yes.
mod6: Well... I'm worried
that if start
to
try
to pin down all of
the versions and
their hashes, it just adds a bunch of complexity.
mircea_popescu: something like "shellouts marked for extinction anyway, no point building on
them" ?
mod6: I've gotta go snow blow
this 8" of snow. Will
think on it a bit.
mod6: mircea_popescu: I see your point re-hashes, might be something
to consider in
the future. Been avoiding painting myself into a corner with
the prototype.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 15:32 mircea_popescu: incidentally mod6 : given
teh centrality of
teh work he's doing, do you suppose
teh foundation could be prevailed upon
to give lobbes a grant so he can get himself a shiny dedicated box with pizarro ? could for instance
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-21#1785458 work as
teh application ?
mircea_popescu: but anyway,
the idea is
to gut
the anthill from inside
the ants.
mircea_popescu: and obviously calling it "a list" of hashes is just another playful reference
to
teh prior discussion. lel.
mircea_popescu: then you could just keep a list of
these and people ~would know~ when it is useful
to report
their runs.
mircea_popescu: print a warning, "your X util exists, but its hash differs from what i ran
this on, so please
test and report" ?
mircea_popescu: i'd
take it one step further and : mod6 do you
think it might be a good idea
to actually include hashes ?
trinque: ah I have no idea if
there actually is one without /tmp, but I get where
the guy's mistrust comes from.
mircea_popescu: also ben_vulpes :
the
thinking over at s.mg is
that we want a dedicated box for
teh server plus a vps for holding
the website and such
things, so we don't have
to eat
the whole apache overload on
the game server.
☟︎ trinque: at first I said
to myself "what unix ships without /tmp", and
then I get
to 0x04 and what can I say. "ship completely useless" indeed.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-21 18:48 mircea_popescu: normally i'd have alf explain it
to you ; but he's busy. so what i want you
to do is write a blog article about "how
to use merkle
trees
to avoid duplicate problem in web page archiving", and
then i'll comment on it.
mircea_popescu: incidentally mod6 : given
teh centrality of
teh work he's doing, do you suppose
teh foundation could be prevailed upon
to give lobbes a grant so he can get himself a shiny dedicated box with pizarro ? could for instance
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-21#1785458 work as
teh application ?
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: speaking of which, what do you
think diana_coman should eucrypt also include an elastic hashing algo on
top of keccak and serpent ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and as
to
the final
thing :
the whole idea of
the archive item (which lobbes asked for and i very much doubt he realised at
the
time what an immense item it is) is
to RECONSTRUCT
the poorly designed "web" into proper structure. hence
the merkle
tree discussions and so on. so very much yes, eventually we'll be using a proper republican accessing scheme.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and as
to
the selection : i just
tried ctrl^ and it worked fine. IN NANO.
mircea_popescu: that's
the fucking problem, x is "mature" rather
than
the abstract joke it was in
the 90s, yet it STILL doesn't handle
the most basic of
things. which is -- just fucking rebind
the pipes holy hell wtf, sigpipe is an acceptable behaviour now ?!
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 21:42 phf: we also at some point had a
thread, where i believe ascii but also others were leaning
towards
the idea of a single file vpatches (i.e.
that a vpatch should only ever contain hunks for a single file). i'm starting
to
think
that multi-file solutions in general are a hack ("we can't fit
the entire compilation in memory"), but
then i've been looking at
TeX on one hand, and
the "millions of support files" in diff/patch on
the other
spyked: there's another
thing,
though I still have
to get up
to date on
http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=hypertext :
teh
Trilema JS is
trying
to solve what seems
to be a limitation in
the current URI scheme.
the "resource" in URI refers
to documents/pages (files!), whereas we want
to (and it would be useful
to be able
to) link
to subtrees in
the document.
spyked: editor might actually make a good basis for a browser. emacs, if we were
to
take greenspun's
tenth rule into account.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-22 23:34 mircea_popescu: and also, why
the fuck would
text browser lack highlighting. how's it supposed
to even work.
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785621 <-- ugh, my engrish; of course, by "highlighting" I mean "text selection", which is a GUI
thing, and w3m and lynx/links seem
to lack it altogether. now, scrolling
they don't lack, but
the js bit still doesn't implement window.scroll. anyway, let's consider
the fact
that
text editors implement both selection and scrolling (and possibly other features useful for a browser), so a stripped-down
text
☝︎ mircea_popescu: phf so what is
the call on republican alphabetic order ? "all strings are made of bytes and
the byte order is
the alphabetic order" ?
hanbot: phf anyway re your footnote four, i
think it looks great, and stolen
takes one l,
though "stollen from elsewhere" sounds delicious
☟︎ mircea_popescu: hanbot im willing
to bet shitty gcc. what version is it ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf
trinque diana_coman so i'm
thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared
to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i
thinkl
that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile being able
to authoritatively answer "buy X, not Y" is very valuable, because unlike
the above scenario, where
time you expend actually dampens republican affairs (as for every dT you put in, everyone has
to put in some d'T as well),
this on
the contrary leverages : for every dT you put in, everyone DOESN'T have
to put in some d''T.
mircea_popescu: as in any case
the E' will have
to be resolved by recourse
to
the forum, and as b) is not all
that insignificant,
the dT investment is a poor usage of your limited
T resource.
mircea_popescu: then later, events E
that fall within W will
take (putatively) less
time
to resolve
than events E'
that fall within
the epsilon ; however a)
the probability of E'/E is not equal
to
the factor R/epsilon (but worse) and b) all
this requires people actually read W, which is a cost (leaving aside how it's also something some won't pay).
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
to explain what i mean :
there's some reality
the contract handles (R) and some actual wording of
the contract W.
the delta R-W can be brought under an arbitrary value epsilon, but not
to zero.
the delta epsilon
translates in a delta
time dT you have
to pour into
the wringing of
this allignment.
mod6: over-thought
that WAY
too much