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phf: sad, i was warming up to it as a note taking tool..
phf: nah, i didn't go as far as motherboard removal. i was thinking this might be heat issue, but that would be out of the box, and the pattern don't really correspond to heating
mircea_popescu: suppose there's a measure of human fitness, not quite IQ but anyway, just as insanely, a positive integer scalar. suppose there's a measure of human confusion, going from 0 (full pantrsuit, actually believes socialism is a thing, etc) to 1 (actual republican).
mircea_popescu: not to mention it readily explains a lot of other things, such as why we opress the stupid, the poor, the "alternatively" sexuate, the bizarrely literate etcetera.
mircea_popescu: hm, this "write line as long as you wish, program will split" fix turns out to not play so well with logreader...
mircea_popescu: specifically, writing software is not some kind of hired work, like polishing boots or cutting hair. writing software is a dignity, in the exact sense there contemplated : republic gives you, ivan ivanovich, a budget of so many lines, as if it were so many bitcoins, to ~EXPEND~ in a defensible, meaningful, useful an' rational fashion ( hence http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-07#1832667 discussion ). ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:17 asciilifeform: as for asciilifeform , he would actually prefer if mircea_popescu shot straight and said 'hell no i won't pay for no stinkin' software', rather than the peculiar ritual of having a contest, then to proclaim the submitters as a whole 'self-indulgent indolent' and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 15:33 asciilifeform: Mocky: to function as a troo vtronicist, gotta grasp the concept, described by e.g. dijkstra, that a line of code you have written is not an asset, but an expense. (specifically, an expense against the time budget of other thinking people, who must read and grasp what you have written. )
asciilifeform: ( for all i know, they're already in, dressed up as gpg keys by somebody or other... )
asciilifeform: imho dispensing with 'files as a unit' is The Right Thing, rather than complicated graph walkers. but i'ma not replay the trinque thread.
phf: (btcbase doesn't choke on circular graphs, though in a general case it bails. if the circle is in the descendants order is determined by walk's order of entry, a circle back to genesis though can still be broken by explicitly designated something as "genesis", etc.)
asciilifeform: but so far nobody seems to see it as dire enuff problem to actually resort to this
phf: if you want to reduce the problem to a "don't do this" policy, then it stems from repeated hunks across multiple vpatches, i.e. if you have two or more vpatches that have identical state transitions. something like that is bound to happen when you're attempting to port a feature between branches, as is the case with vtools. (i.e. you patched foo.c in one file "remove broken behavior", you now want to also introduce same fix to the other branch)
phf: asciilifeform: nope, another form that as of now doesn't have a name
phf: let me retest it, but as far as i recall it was producing a patch order that doesn't press
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 11:48 spyked: it might also in a way be interesting to report how I stumbled upon this: I tried to recompile gnupg-1.4.10 on my broken debian system and got the same "multiple definition" linking errors as in vtools' case (though I *did* use gcc<5). so I dug and found the usual kochs "fixing" things to compile gnupg on newer gccs.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-09 22:25 mircea_popescu: the correct solution is to distinguish selling and buying auctions. change the "A#285" lede into either "B#285" or "S#285" and then if it's a S have it work as it works now, but if it's a B have it work ~reverse~, so smaller bids overbid larger bids.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-09 01:53 mircea_popescu: esthlos can't select portions of your blog! but anyway, "Make a new patch with esthlos-v_genesis and some node of the EuCrypt tree as parents." wasn't contemplated, because http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-29#1592769
mircea_popescu: the correct solution is to distinguish selling and buying auctions. change the "A#285" lede into either "B#285" or "S#285" and then if it's a S have it work as it works now, but if it's a B have it work ~reverse~, so smaller bids overbid larger bids. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: as i understand, idea is auction of dollars denominated in btc (i.e. special-purpose honest exchange)
lobbes: mod6 I would gladly work to earn that grant. As it is, I already need to get the 'legacy' auctionbot away from heathen dependencies (in this case, the 'supybot' api), so in building this custom auctionbot for pizarro I may just take the opportunity to design something sitting atop ircbot/logbot and eventually release a proper genesis ☟︎
mod6: That would be wildly helpful. Something such as that, could basically replace the entire OTC.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/johnson-resigns-as-uk-foreign-secretary-over-impossibility-of-mays-soft-brexit-effort/ << Qntra - Johnson Resigns As UK Foreign Secretary Over Impossibility Of May's "Soft" Brexit Effort
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform she holds on to a post. you know, just as when punished ; you pull. she ends up winded and you end up sweating.
mircea_popescu: comes as close to giving the woman a good beating as humanly possible without welts and leather straps. which ~makes me suspect~ it was very much not coincidental
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lasting-er impact, as a fashionista, than as one of these, whatever they are, "intellectuals" or so. << Whoever came up with those graft jeans has a legacy
mircea_popescu: and ~just as~ in the computer case, fashion also has some kind of vague relation with objective realities. somewhat. tit holes usually go in front, registers usually go on a bus, sorta level of reality constraint.
mircea_popescu: lasting-er impact, as a fashionista, than as one of these, whatever they are, "intellectuals" or so.
mircea_popescu: as xerox parc and say symbolics well proved (and crapple, shittysoft, etc all eagerly copied), no computer science matters for very long.
mircea_popescu: so it was, "re-grind your genesis ~as a patch upon eucrypt~."
mircea_popescu: esthlos can't select portions of your blog! but anyway, "Make a new patch with esthlos-v_genesis and some node of the EuCrypt tree as parents." wasn't contemplated, because http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-29#1592769 ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/another-case-of-human-labor-masquerading-as-ai-exposed/ << Qntra - Another Case Of Human Labor Masquerading As AI Exposed
asciilifeform: a Troo Eternal gnat oughta be able to build itself ad-infinitum, jumping archs as necessary
asciilifeform: phf: as discussed in the recent diana_coman thread, if you want systemwide musl-anythings, gotta have a pure musl box.
asciilifeform: it aint as if they dun know how to generate rando key to go with spamola rando luser acct tho.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-07 14:44 mircea_popescu: re http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/076-shithub-2018-06.html#selection-149.0-153.220 : you should see the "easy to detect" over @ fetlife, fucktards have five dozen DIFFERENT failure modes, all of them ujust as "specifically laid out". bot code is 60% "handle inept error pages" by mass. so fucking evident it's the result of "incremental development", too.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-07 04:26 mircea_popescu: actually... i suppose might as well get the whole pile archived
asciilifeform: ( euro-style cranked arbalest, somewhat interestingly, had ~same penetration as musket )
asciilifeform: but perhaps it sufficed as 'police arm'
mircea_popescu: (exactly as it sounds, 1700s musket-machinegun attempt. didn't work so well)
asciilifeform: granted, early cannon was nearly as lethal to the artillerist as to enemy. but that was state of art in 1500. turret pistol seems like a step back..
asciilifeform: horizontal ~drums~ work ok, as in rpd ( https://topwar.ru/14415-degtyarev-pehotnyy-pulemetu-dp-85-let.html ) , but these had a bolt & extractor
mircea_popescu: (ftr, turret pistol actually existed -- borne out of that "supporter of creativity" that's ustardian "intellectual property" laws. worked as well as anything the socialists ever sired ever worked.)
mircea_popescu: the whole discussion went 1. there can only be one ; 2. sure as fuck won't be hitler's ; 3. pick something
asciilifeform: as for keccak, util oughta take a bitness arg ( sorta half the win from keccak, is that you can demand e.g. kilobit hash output )
phf: now the reason i kept the branches separate is because i was expecting a rapid switch to keccak as soon as one's available, so the need to deal with sha patches would've been rare. that's not the case, and i want to have similar functionality available for both sha and keccak until there's no more active sha patches in the wild.
asciilifeform: ( these, as alert reader prolly realizes, signal immediately, they do not require bernsteinization to find )
asciilifeform: ( keys with dupe mods get processed correctly, they are addressable as distinct keys but mods are references to a mods table, and dupes get marked as dupes. bernsteintron works on deduped mods table. )
asciilifeform: what this also means, as i understand, is that there are some lusers with >1 mod .
mircea_popescu: it's the direct equivalent of a key, actually. if you regard a rsa key as "a succession of 2048 binary questions" to which one gives exactly correct answers ; then ~choices you make~ are ultimately the basis of identity.
esthlos: question for diana_coman then, is where to base press to get standalone keccak, as refenced: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/01/18/eucrypt-chapter-6-keccak-transformations/#selection-83.46-83.153
mircea_popescu: esthlos there's an eucrypt keccak you can either import (by patching off eucrypt) or copy over (as a different patch).
mircea_popescu: gotta check that the trusted (as established by sigs) transformation is applied on a) what it expects to be applied and b) the provided transformation ~actually matches~ the described transformation that was trusted.
mircea_popescu: and b) you're applying "fuck you()" on the expectation it hashes as "pupcakes and soda cop"
mircea_popescu transparently has about as much respect for the intellectual productions of north america as for the intellectual productions of the gabon republic.
mircea_popescu: right. might as well use realistic terminology rather than their in-universe nonsensical wank.
mircea_popescu: ie, ~same distribution as in 2016.
mircea_popescu: re http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/076-shithub-2018-06.html#selection-149.0-153.220 : you should see the "easy to detect" over @ fetlife, fucktards have five dozen DIFFERENT failure modes, all of them ujust as "specifically laid out". bot code is 60% "handle inept error pages" by mass. so fucking evident it's the result of "incremental development", too. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: author should be whipped to death in public square, as far as i'm concerned ; and all others like him alongside.
asciilifeform: 'As per the figures above, there were only about 4.6 million RSA keys in existence on GitHub on the 1st of July 2018, as opposed to the approximately 6.9 million found by JuroV' << i suspect that the culprit is the massed usg thrust towards 'use ecdsa nao!'
a111: Logged on 2018-07-06 23:40 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831298 << unless you have particular preferences, i'm going to throw it into the same patchset as ircbot. it'll follow the grand ircbot tradition of a genesis that never the less relies on the adjacent patches
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-06#1832410 <-- ty phf! yeah, that works. though eventually it will be reground into a single tree, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818999 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: (as per the letter of the law, perfectly legitimate "business contacts" of everyone reading, seeing how you know the "requisite details" to distinguish ill-colored email from crown-blessed-color colored email.)
mircea_popescu: actually... i suppose might as well get the whole pile archived ☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831298 << unless you have particular preferences, i'm going to throw it into the same patchset as ircbot. it'll follow the grand ircbot tradition of a genesis that never the less relies on the adjacent patches ☝︎☟︎
trinque: as I recall just walks the strings present in that position in the vpatches
asciilifeform: well yes, as seen in literally erry place other than usa and perhaps jp )
asciilifeform: ( in usa hruscheba is build in ~week or 2, as they make from cardboard )
asciilifeform: same method as used here.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile " In 2014 Dundee was recognised by the United Nations as the UK's first UNESCO City of Design for its diverse contributions to fields including medical research, comics and video games."
a111: Logged on 2018-07-06 16:58 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-06#1832227 << this. "not as fast, but at least useful" (tm)
mircea_popescu: because as it happens this is ready knob for "distinguish man from child". i can ask people, "but does your '''project''' dlopen" and well...
mircea_popescu: a minimal os + custom built fs (doubling as bitcoin specific db ; possibly written as raid firmware at least in part) + proper net driver (i really don't need iptables ad-hoc scripting lang to do what evidently and universally bitcoin node has to do) + grandfather pistols bitcoin code => an actual definitive package.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-06#1832227 << this. "not as fast, but at least useful" (tm) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: Thou causeth the mother to neglect her child, also the father to act as he were wild, so that he neglects his loving wife and family dear, by spending his earnings foolishly on whisky, rum and beer.
asciilifeform: approx same level of complexity as that little mips.
asciilifeform: ave1: FUCKGOATS src http://btcbase.org/patches/fg-genesis makes as good an intro to verilogism as any imho
asciilifeform: asciilifeform in particular would like a gnat for mips, given as the latter actually fits in an ice40
ave1: asciilifeform, yes that was my first reaction too. It does does something with word copying though and also individual files can be build without any of the extra gnat checks. So maybe the ada versions can be stand-ins so long as a native asm based version has not been written.
ave1: it maybe possible to creat a stand-alone object file as target but I haven't found that option yet (so far I worked with libraries and executables).
ave1: the startup.S file, it needs to end up as a separate object file and not part of libgnat.a
ave1: thx diana_coman, It's now very minimal, mostly so that it can be understood as is. I'm working on adding all the code in so that at least ffa can build.
mircea_popescu: if you recall, unicode started as "how about we produce replacement for "Box drawings vertical single and right double"
mircea_popescu: the issue of textual->pictographic representation is a lot wider and deeper than what the imbeciles rephrased it as, and proceeded to "solve" in their usual fucktarded manbners.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-05#1832116 << dun forget 'in'shallah' ( iirc rendered in sp as 'ojala' ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-27 23:41 asciilifeform: generally -- the industrialist saw the artisan as a headache, and killed him. nao we get to 'enjoy' the fruits of de-artisan'ed industry.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:23 asciilifeform: the 'postel's law' nonsense, of silently forgiving people who send liquishit at the dusty disused corners of the protocol, enabling there to even ~be~ such a thing as dusty corners in a protocol!, MUST die.
mircea_popescu: yep, same exact thing then as now.
mircea_popescu: same thing as now, really.
trinque: (none ought be in the bootstrapper either, as I think they're all masked, though not by any hard protocol)
a111: Logged on 2018-07-05 16:40 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform imo this is not even the wrong way ; will not only significantly cheapen our end, but ~all of the enemy hardware will ahve to be replaced, at capital costs far exceeding its current capacities (projected to diminish in the future as they may be)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not like imperial ideology is meaningful in any sense anyway. might as well.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, trinque's script is basically proto-cuntoo as far as I understand it; and it will result in a mulstronic system so why are we talking of a glibc box?
asciilifeform: as i understand, diana_coman's system calls for the troo 'single gcc' toolchain, i.e. ave1's
mircea_popescu: at least as best i can discern.
mircea_popescu: so if i use it, the resulting system will in fact permit my testing of a whole set of musl-compiled deps, system wide, such as mysql and whatever other libs eulora pulls.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i understand, it would not be a wasted effort , given as if a musl-incompatibility is revealed , diana_coman can go straight to patching it, working in parallel with trinque's finishing touches on cuntoo
asciilifeform: i will help but strictly if mircea_popescu specifically asks, given as he had asciilifeform swear not to meddle in euloristic matters.
asciilifeform: if, as appears to be the case, the latter is far from battlefield deployment, it may be worth .
asciilifeform: this is actually testable on diana_coman's existing box, all it requires is to set up ( as i understand, diana_coman already has ) ave1's gcc toolchain , in user homedir