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mircea_popescu: ima ask again the thing i asked you lot when you came up with the batshit insane options arrangement : do you think he's not a real person because he's actually DOING things, real things, scary real things such as fucking venezuelans, and real people are only the meditative kind ?
mircea_popescu: 2. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831375 STILL didn't get a direct answer, two weeks later. this "withdraw into busywork" reaction to uncomfortable realities may work (it doesn't work, but subjectively may seem to work) in lines typically well fit to the autistic. but as things stand here it's at least mildly insulting to BingoBoingo, that he's the dood on the ground and you're somehow looking right throguh him. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( as with the most recent one )
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834322 << this is a fine question. what's the envisaged happy ending here ? << As I was saying, was hoping to hire someone. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Well, pizarro has the dedicated boxes that require invoicing and the occasional standup. The rockchips that require invoicing and the occasional standup. Then there's the shared hosting server which is beefy as hell and runs a very lean gentoo.
trinque: yep, delicately saying as much. activist customer is about as far as I'm able to sign in blood atm.
mircea_popescu: i'm about as impressed of this autistic waste as of pete_dushenski's latest lists of important bitcoin posts he thinks he's made, and whatever other monkey-emperors of "all they survey".
mircea_popescu: because the moron utterly has to http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/ ; can't simply come fucking here, register a key, do something useful as ordered. no, none of that, business school produces more special cuntlets than miss america competitions, he gotta sing his own fucking tune. because this is actually possible, every dick, tan and harry can come up with marching tunes.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-13#1834316 << hence by extension of http://trilema.com/2010/doua-fete-argumentul-economic/ , the harem as an economic necessity. the marginal cost to make bread for 12 as opposed to 3 is sub 50% ; the marginal benefit from having local taylor to make you a dress while you make bread... ☝︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, I'm full time at s.mg as it is
asciilifeform: iirc jurov already declined, as did mircea_popescu
mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : Ben and I have been pouring over the numbers (as i'm getting an education here), and the prorated cost for the rest of July for UY3 will be: 0.03542985 BTC
diana_coman: I suppose my great grandparents' house could work fine as a museum
BingoBoingo: They remain a rural crackpot thing in USistan as well along with R-22 to propane conversions
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there used to be this thing, mostly in orcistans ( 1950s su, ro, elsewhere ) where starvation-cheap fridge, no compressor, but driven by heat ( typically ammonia as working fluid ) , could even run off kitchen gas
asciilifeform: there is not a techno-pill against the requirement of wot, just as there is not a system of magnets and pulleys that gets you a working perpetuum mobile.
mircea_popescu: just saying, the "p2p protocol" as a broad construct seems pretty well fleshed out.
asciilifeform: bbs -- in so far as it represented 'can talk without necessarily going through nsa backbone in london' -- was a greater loss than email.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: tbh i'm surprised that email lived as long as it did. it was exactly 'dodo bird', 0 defenses against predation at all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he actually baked a patch, about same time as my aggression item, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-December/000282.html
asciilifeform: notably , the patch started life as a general-purpose profiling of a whole buncha things in trb, but i ended up cutting out all but block timing, given as that was where something like 99% of ~active~ (i.e. as opposed to waiting for rain to fall, this was pre- aggression) cycles are spent
diana_coman: asciilifeform, no, I didn't; and yes, it has stayed as far as I can tell (i.e. I check it daily to see if it's in sync and it has been in sync for several months now); if you have somewhere a step-by-step thing with what would be interesting to publish, I can go through it and do it but otherwise tbh I'm so swamped with other stuff that it's waaaay at the bottom of any queue
asciilifeform: it is, but worx for so long as you dun write to it, lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in abominably rubbishy toolchains, the practice of 'doing the checks the compiler oughta have but author was dropped as a baby and so it doesn't', roughly.
ben_vulpes: https://eslint.org/blog/2018/07/postmortem-for-malicious-package-publishes << the entertaining part is how much work they put into disguising Kevin Partington's role as "the maintainer"
mircea_popescu: first thing, you know, slavegirl comes across is this plain "you're entirely fucking worthless". pons asinorum, as it were.
mircea_popescu: and the wives, too, strike me as the products of people who think women valuable.
asciilifeform: dunno that the official spiel has any connection, however tenuous, to reality. you've witnessed the products of ameri-schooling. do said schools strike you as an item produced by folx who 'believe kidz valuable' ?
asciilifeform: i dun dispute that they could believe. but the hypothesis dun strike me as a necessary one.
mircea_popescu: because why ? because you'll just make up classes to explain it away as need be ?
mircea_popescu: and yes, there are. everyone buys it, as the necessary prerequisite of being "in".
mircea_popescu: yes, but if there's structure there can't be equality. and if there can't be equality, it then follows that ~not everyone could be anything they wanted to~. that could is currently underpinning the whole world economy, as the jesus nut of it all.
mircea_popescu: pro tip : to pubescent eyes, sexual congress readily translates to "daddy beating up mommy", as a factual matter. and to similarily infantile minds, what i do to my slavegirls is you know, "abuse" or however they put it.
asciilifeform: current situation is suboptimal for all sides -- focus on individual debts, rather than the actual and dire problem of distinguishing men from vermin, leads to where some men nailed at ~random, while vermin win reprieve after reprieve (typically by 'demoocracying' as a blok )
mircea_popescu: hence all the nonsense that has, and will, blow up in their faces. "debt tranching, allowing you to remove the debtor entirely from consideration !!! " "does this actually work ?" "our gauss copula indicates that it definitely will work for as long as it does!"
asciilifeform: it is rather analogous to venice-credit, the cannoneer is spending the resource of another, and is at the mercy of 'creditor', who can decide to hang'im as traitor -- or not -- if the attack fails
phf: asciilifeform: i believe it was a reference to earlier mention of three musketeers as a source of useful knowledge, rather than any particular plot element. at least i meant dumas as generally high adventure
mircea_popescu: phf this sounds great, and works fine for as long as you stick to pulp fiction (this ~particular~ narrowness of viewport is why dumas never counted as an important writer). try and step outside of the threemusketeering and see if it can still be meaningfully applied.
mircea_popescu: "progress" renders all evaluation meaningless as a prerequisite.
mircea_popescu: nah, as late as 1960 it meant "end of life" in that you became a nigger and had to sell ("voluntarily", heh) your suburban home
mircea_popescu: note how it was also the law of the land, even as late as 60s.
mircea_popescu: cated floor washer, and some others) says, at the peak ? "i want you to have all the money". what's rose say in http://trilema.com/2015/the-war-of-the-roses/ ? yep, that's right, "you should have all the money". originally started as a blacksploitation item (and here's our tie-in with "ubuntu, the african philosophy") -- what's willie dynamite say (to the fat, middle-aged "social worker", no less) ? "i want you to have all th
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's an entire field. The hamplanets trying to appear as human sized is just one flavor.
mircea_popescu: now, much in the vein of http://trilema.com/2013/a-deal-can-be-anything/ ; any interaction can be moved towards a long con. you simply take whatever the op says they want to happen, and use that as the misidrection point.
mircea_popescu: as you might expect, chick's way fat, way older than she claims, and cutting pics in the way of the catfisher.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jp item not halberd variant. jp item ~falx~ variant, as in the dacian weapon. very practical according to romans, either, feared the future romanians like no one else.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 19:35 phf: madam blavatski and her followers did a lot of damage for years to come. it was literally in her writing that original meaning doesn't matter, as long as the translation sounds cool (there's a rationalization for why that somehow supposed to make sense)
mircea_popescu: as fucking if a) africans and philosophy can be used in same sentence ; b) "translated as" is not a dead fucking giveaway of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1542003 -style cultural appropriation and on and on. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: Ubuntu (Zulu pronunciation: [ùɓúntʼù]) is a Nguni Bantu term meaning "humanity". It is often translated as "I am because we are," and also "humanity towards others", but is often used in a more philosophical sense to mean "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".")
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 21:27 asciilifeform: but in that case it can be debated whether he is still using 'the same machine' as he bought, or a 'new', africanized one
a111: Logged on 2018-07-12 13:32 asciilifeform: hats off to trinque , pretty great item. ( as i understand , we will still need a troo tmsr tarballs mirror, and coupla other things. but it's a good start, 100% musltronic gentoo. )
asciilifeform: i left it as-is, in the interest of authenticity.
trinque: this and the number of cpus, and perhaps others as args, yes
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-12#1833748 << this I did to allow building the system as a USB-attached external drive, which could later be plugged in as primary hd and still boot. recall I started my gentoo experiments with "infectious gentoo" as a target ☝︎
asciilifeform: i have my box set to stty... both on boot, so i never observed this effect. possible quirk of the pl2302 driver. i recommend , as in any battlefield installation of FG, to carry out the s.nsa-recced tests.
diana_coman: nope, no such thing as usual brazilian guy
diana_coman: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo access to box & config confirmed; FG on ttysUSB0 had a wobble at first and I don't understand why: I ran the stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 raw -echo -echoe -echok and then tried dd iflag=fullblock if=/dev/ttyUSB0 | hexdump -C but nothing came up; then I ran the stty on usb1 as well and tried again and it...worked; any idea wtf was that at first? ☟︎
asciilifeform: hats off to trinque , pretty great item. ( as i understand , we will still need a troo tmsr tarballs mirror, and coupla other things. but it's a good start, 100% musltronic gentoo. ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: at the risk of pedantry -- all of the pasted items, other than (4) , exist on your box's disk , exactly as pasted.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme know if box functions as expected. you will prolly want to install ave1's gnat . but even prior to this, can proceed with emerging eulora deps , and see which ones work under muslism .
asciilifeform: 2) http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bxS2w/?raw=true << lilo.conf ( original preserved as lilo.trinque )
asciilifeform: are hardbaked into kernel. trinque as i understand is working on an automatic process for this.
asciilifeform: the 1 non-trinquian component is the kernel, which is bitwise identical to what is on 1) dulap 2) the primary s.mg box. fortunately kernel carries own libc, musltronicity dun affect it. but the trinquian kernel src and my original config is still there, as well as my config for the iron; it is possible for diana_coman to later build the kernel with trinque's gcc, what is needed is to transform my config so that all necessary modules
asciilifeform: trinque's gcc, btw, is exactly as was printed on the crate, x86_64-gentoo-linux-musl 4.9.4 ☟︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, re ssh key, pizarro already has mine, just use that one; re box: I've read through the logs and in the end I'm still confused as to *what* is in there now - is it musltronic system or not?
asciilifeform: what you want is strictly lsmod output, as basis
trinque: so, can install busybox this way, user hand-rolls a script (perhaps from template), and this is as much initramfs as anyone oughta need
trinque: as for initramfs-ism, it has its place (i.e. embedded systems with peculiar root, squashfs + overlayfs or the like)
trinque: but aside that, pretty fucking cool you stood the thing up, as it was a scrape of my workbench into tarball and sig
trinque: seems upon the man building the kernel for allcomers to justify himself, as my kernels are narrower
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-11#1833642 << I am racist against modulism, as long expressed and explicit in the script ☝︎
asciilifeform: currently i am not able to make use of trinque's builder ( even though i fed it my kernel config verbatim ) as it does not handle the building and installation of the ramdisk where modules live ( dulap kernel is not presently cleansed of modulism )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's blinkenlight is normal, but now the port the KVM is plugged into shows orange (as opposed to green) blinkenlight
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it might've not escaped your notice standard tool required on alf's workbench is blamebox. he knows better than to proceed without it, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-11#1833373 etc. in this case -- you're it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: just as implied in the name. 'turn net into cable tv'.
asciilifeform: point was, i suspect that there cannot be such a thing as 'sane video www', there is elementarily no way to pay for the necessary bw with honest money
mircea_popescu: that's the whole fuckign thing. and it was a primary driver in the mind breakage of the 00s, and deeply related to practical issues such as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-10#1833240 ☝︎
asciilifeform: oooh and i found why no boot : root=/dev/sda3 console=ttyS0,115200n8 << oughta be sda2 , given as i abolished swap
a111: Logged on 2018-07-11 18:40 phf: i'm unconvinced there can be such a thing as hygienic latex, possibly there can be ghostscript if you pull out the pdf support (?)
asciilifeform: (as it is, it is happening ~32x slower than could)
diana_coman: asciilifeform, the ban mask and flags for using the 32 cpus of the box seem to me absolutely needed as a minimum; mind adding them ?
phf: i'm unconvinced there can be such a thing as hygienic latex, possibly there can be ghostscript if you pull out the pdf support (?) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( neither belongs on server, so i've not put much attention in it as of yet )
asciilifeform: ( as seen on dulap and rockchip )
asciilifeform: there's a coupla things obviously missing from the alpha cuntoo, e.g. my anti-poetteringolade ban mask, make flags for actually using the 32 cpus of the box, possibly other things. but i'ma let diana_coman add these at her leisure, box will be delivered with what is as close as possible to trinque's original item ( i'ma config the nic and that's it )
asciilifeform: hobotrinque: so theoretically this should be fixable when we bolt on ave1's gcc as the initial binary, aha ?
phf read that as "tities", was very confused
asciilifeform: trinque: i'ma revv it up with my current dulap kernel, customer can reconfig as desired
diana_coman: <asciilifeform> as i understand this will be the first field test outside of his bench. <- smg is an ice breaker of all sorts, what can I tell you
trinque: asciilifeform: pretty high degree of confidence in the build. oughta be exact same deps on your end as what I had on the workbench
asciilifeform: as i understand this will be the first field test outside of his bench.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-11 03:49 esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-10#1833105 << fwiw phf, esthlos-v resolves the graph in the same manner as btcbase, and can press based at any node. of course, without checking the hashes, currently...
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-10#1833105 << fwiw phf, esthlos-v resolves the graph in the same manner as btcbase, and can press based at any node. of course, without checking the hashes, currently... ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-10 21:41 diana_coman: no idea but fwiw I was playing with it on the rockchip; as far as I can tell both lobbes and esthlos used some previous versions; (btw esthlos can you maybe show the date of the post somewhere convenient? it's really weird to have to guess it/search for it)
trinque: as it happens, I can reach the deposit lever and will shortly mod6
diana_coman: no idea but fwiw I was playing with it on the rockchip; as far as I can tell both lobbes and esthlos used some previous versions; (btw esthlos can you maybe show the date of the post somewhere convenient? it's really weird to have to guess it/search for it) ☟︎
diana_coman: so I'm asking here as honestly I had quite enough of software for today
mircea_popescu: solving any problem consists of carefully loading very finely defined borders of issues in one's head. the hobbyst approach relies on a sort of "generally speaking", consisting of "people" and "having trouble" and "in the general area". as you might imagine, the mismatch is deeply irritating to the first set.
diana_coman: the actual pressing as far as v reports the flow works as expected
phf: asciilifeform: have you been using yours extensively, i.e. as a booted device, running linux etc. on a day to day, or it's only been on trepanation table so far?