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asciilifeform: ( 1 remaining lulzdetail -- fella's apparently a free man today, and 'activist businessman'(tm) )
asciilifeform: point being, no one gave half a shit re the leaflets.
asciilifeform: this aint the interesting part tho. prior to this fella went all around moscow and dropped anonlulz leaflets 'kill gorby now'. after printed a run of each, destroyed typewriter, filed off the pads, buried. went through 5 or 6.
asciilifeform: knew how to get within range, also a++ . but was just slightly too slow on the draw, missed 1st shot, flunkie fell on him during 2nd
asciilifeform: recently asciilifeform dug up ancient case: d00d tried to nail gorby, iirc circa '87. had a++ scheme, sawed off german double-barrel 12ga, overcoat, carried pro-gorby plaquard on metal rod to get past metalsweepers (succeeded) ;
asciilifeform: afaik 'anonymity' was never the hard part, the tricky bit is getting anyone to give a fuck re the anon spews
asciilifeform: the sailors had done quite a few things, 1st 'standard', then 'nonstandard', e.g. bled air from torpedos to try an' dry out flooded compartments. did not simply sit.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu saw with own eyes such a boat, in cr, once
mircea_popescu: a yes
mircea_popescu: hard to believe they couldn't fix a handle in 2 weeks
a111: Logged on 2019-05-31 13:48 asciilifeform: in 1 particular documented case, where boat was raised 7yrs later, they found that an old salt turned valve in wrong direction. fella served on a diff design for a decade, where dir was opposite. he put such strength into 'closing' valve that the handle was bent. rest of crew breathed for 2wks, aside from one who hung self in bed and another who shorted battery with both hands.
asciilifeform: the old 'whack-a-mole' approach of filtration maybe was workable in '90s, but today 'fresh' ips cost, what, half a penny ea.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: the way I see it re your approach is that it effectively takes the "prove you are not a robot" route i.e. assumed default is robot, human only if proven rather than the other way around.
mircea_popescu: that it was. but im still not taking tests to leave a comment.
mircea_popescu: this theory is how you have 0 comments from me on loper-os, over half a decade.
asciilifeform: ip-banlist filtration imho sucks tho. puts burden on site operator, for no good reason. whereas if erry www keeper made commenters solve even ultra-simple 'reading comprehension' puzzler prior to comment entering queue, ~for so long as said puzzler aint standardized, a la idjit 'captcha'~ -- then spam, at least of the mass-scalable variety, evaporates.
mircea_popescu: what's the idea anyway, that i'm going to scour earth to find some net dork that sad the unkind about my slaves ? cuz what, i give a fuck ? and what, if i give a fuck it'll be protonmail and 10bux/year vps that's gonna prevent me ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, indeed not. think about how this works : a) the comment includes a link not-to-trilema. so it's potentially a spammer ; then b) uses an "vps" ip, which has a very high likeliness of being previously used to a spammer, and marked as such in trilema's own antispam.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-31 15:57 asciilifeform: they also have a thing where the captain can point to anyone, 'you!' , and then point to any piece of gear, from reactor to toilet, and demand an account of what are all of the parts, and how it works, in detail. and the pointed man must pass the exam. if fails, has no moar 'r&r' time , must study, until passes.
asciilifeform: imho this is a mighty fine practice and oughta be adopted elsewhere.
asciilifeform: they also have a thing where the captain can point to anyone, 'you!' , and then point to any piece of gear, from reactor to toilet, and demand an account of what are all of the parts, and how it works, in detail. and the pointed man must pass the exam. if fails, has no moar 'r&r' time , must study, until passes. ☟︎
asciilifeform: there is an interesting tradition in ru navy. they open a kingston and fill a lamp cover with sea water; the boat dives, and the green recruits are given to drink, and told : 'this salt water will be the last thing you taste if you fuck up' .
asciilifeform: in 1 recent case, in iirc '07, a diesel boat was sold to india and sailed to purchaser, crewed by ~builders and designers~ (is called 'factory crew'). and there was small fire, during which they ended up pumping halon into wrong compartment.
asciilifeform: in 1 particular documented case, where boat was raised 7yrs later, they found that an old salt turned valve in wrong direction. fella served on a diff design for a decade, where dir was opposite. he put such strength into 'closing' valve that the handle was bent. rest of crew breathed for 2wks, aside from one who hung self in bed and another who shorted battery with both hands. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: some of the former would go on to become the latter, most did not. a conscript sailed for 3y.
mircea_popescu: nobody speaks on the boat ; and if someone does, it's because someone else made a mistake. but real men don' tmake mistakes, and boys aren't welcome on the boat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, a yeah, the silence of the classic nuke sub. usgistani agitpropo makers never get this right, from capra's submarine all the way to star trek there's always endless pointless chatter, and bridge bunnies. no such thing in reality.
mircea_popescu: in other news of little consequence, i added 4 more headers and deleted like a dozen or so (older, shittier ones), leaving the grand total at 57.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-31#1916316 << "sindicalism" / "community organizing" in a word. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: PIT-CNT is more or less a parallel local government
BingoBoingo: rá en aproximadamente dos semanas– la menor superficie de los últimos 25 años, con una caída del 30% en la intención de siembra (a unas 135 mil hectáreas). Pese a que Uruguay es uno de los líderes en productividad a nivel mundial, los crecientes costos del cultivo encadenan ya cinco campañas consecutivas con números rojos."
BingoBoingo: lol http://trilema.com/2019/din-togo-din-togo-da-de-a-cui/#selection-966.1-971.71
asciilifeform: in principle a useful os could consist simply of a lisp runtime and nic diddler (dun strictly need fs etc; could store bits on a nfs or the like)
asciilifeform: ( and yes needs interrupt handler to ~send~, as well as receive, a frame, go figure. )
asciilifeform: phf: i once sank good bit of time into attempt to bring up the ubiquitous 'crab nic' (realtek gb) from asm. broke teeth, it needs a working interrupt stack to run (i.e. 'spittoon in 1 strand', need entire os) . since then, found the 'seekrit' datashit, theoretically could do it, but not had time. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a++ phototour btw
mircea_popescu: maybe not fs. but it takes a bite.
asciilifeform: phf: not clear for what one even needs linux if you got a lisptronic ip stack
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/din-togo-din-togo-da-de-a-cui/ << Trilema -- Din Togo, din Togo... da' de-a cui ?
phf: they use some subset of intel cards that let you push/pull own raw packets from userspace, essentially bypassing linux tcpip implementation. that is a direction to consider..
a111: Logged on 2018-08-21 17:36 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843300 << little known fact: slime's architecture was originally implemented in a similar project for erlang called distel, by the same author luke gorrie. lukego also wrote an emacs clone in erlang and tcp/ip stack in cmucl.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-29 08:51 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1915245 <-- in other c coad, /me spent his last 2-3 weeks looking at the tcp stack implementation in linus' kernel. it is truly a fungus, macguyvered with duct tape and rubber bands, such that changing one line almost anywhere breaks shit all over the place.
asciilifeform: ( sounds like quite a feat )
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, well, meanwhile since i'm here put a little more weight into the network and so on.
BingoBoingo: And in local cultural weird, the pichis are more likely to tell the government surveyors they smoke "pasta base" (cocaine refining waste product) than marijuana https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/personas-que-viven-en-la-calle-aumentaron-a-2-038-segun-datos-del-mides-2019530111026
asciilifeform: how found that he's a blue muppet ? ( caught and connected to 220v and confessed? ) or indirect ?
mp_en_viaje: i thought it's a little weird, /me throws a small bone, dog studiously pretends to not notice while tryna get all sorta typically needful "projects" off ground, like writing books and makign tv pilots.
asciilifeform: re moldavia : asciilifeform has a hilarious ro textboot, from sovok-era moldavia. exactly , near as i can tell, ordinary ro, but cyrillicized
mp_en_viaje: "you're still working for the government, you just don't get a pension"
mp_en_viaje: i think by now they use a sort of auxiliaries that are allowed to marry.
mp_en_viaje: making a lot of noise about... that.
mp_en_viaje: dood moved to romania, made a lot of noise about himself (iirc even married some local). meanwhile moved on to transnistria ("moldavia" thing).
a111: Logged on 2015-05-19 00:48 justJanne: Every. Single. Time. A governmentally owned institution got sold to a US investor they either closed down 2 days later, became shit, or just expensive.
mp_en_viaje: a nice t0 hear!
asciilifeform: and cock exists, and could, in principle, stand. whereas 'private email service' is a dry water, a square circle.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-29 23:45 mp_en_viaje: being a common "private" email service recommended outside the republic > being a "private" email service commonly recommended outside the republic ?
asciilifeform suspects that dijkstra would've enjoyed 'peh', where there aint even such a thing as a jump
asciilifeform: then sure. d called it 'structured programming' (i.e. the craft of ~not~ writing a proggy like this)
mp_en_viaje: you familiar with this phenomenon when, when a change is required, good program needs 1 line touched and github program needs EVERY line touched ?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-29 23:30 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-29#1916138 << this incidentally is as fine a measure of code quality as could ever be hoped for : DLC, "disentangled lines count", the number of lines which can be changed.
mp_en_viaje: being a common "private" email service recommended outside the republic > being a "private" email service commonly recommended outside the republic ? ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: meaning in a 160k lines of code, 78 can actually be edited.
mp_en_viaje: perhaps to be given as a ratio with loc, as 78/160k.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-29 08:51 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1915245 <-- in other c coad, /me spent his last 2-3 weeks looking at the tcp stack implementation in linus' kernel. it is truly a fungus, macguyvered with duct tape and rubber bands, such that changing one line almost anywhere breaks shit all over the place.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-29#1916138 << this incidentally is as fine a measure of code quality as could ever be hoped for : DLC, "disentangled lines count", the number of lines which can be changed. ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Sure, but that involves breaking a bunch of rather ingrained habits.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: get a https://archive.is/UQmLg . cheap, and you'll never want 'machine coffee' after tasted from it.
asciilifeform: a
asciilifeform: or how routers on erry hop of a connection are forced to maintain a 'circuit' state in memory, as if they were telco switches
asciilifeform: the protocol is 'fractally retarded' -- i.e. broken on absolutely erry possible level. starting from where it takes exactly 1 trivially forged packet to close someone's connection, to where 'allcomers' get a substantial chunk of memory allocated , and make ddos trivial , to where it forces 9000x moar complicated design of routing gear, to... could continue but why.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-29 09:06 spyked: the weird part is that the linux tcp stack ~works~ for the most part. I imagine the maintainer of that particular subsystem must be a neckbeard with 20+y experience in tcp (because sure, it's not only the implementation, the protocol itself is a mountain of complexity)
spyked: the weird part is that the linux tcp stack ~works~ for the most part. I imagine the maintainer of that particular subsystem must be a neckbeard with 20+y experience in tcp (because sure, it's not only the implementation, the protocol itself is a mountain of complexity) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 21:36 lobbes: As it stands I have two full pages of hand-written notes with various c and apache-stack likbez, and that was just so I could understand up to line 152 of https://github.com/mbattyani/mod_lisp/blob/master/mod_lisp2.c (only 900 or so lines left to eat). I most likely will publish these notes as a blog post once all is said and done
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1915245 <-- in other c coad, /me spent his last 2-3 weeks looking at the tcp stack implementation in linus' kernel. it is truly a fungus, macguyvered with duct tape and rubber bands, such that changing one line almost anywhere breaks shit all over the place. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
spyked: and I guess I'd prefer starting from code already battle-tested by L1 (in the form of a tarball + ksum?) rather than shithub, and turning _that_ into a genesis. although I suspect I'll have to dig deeper into the heathenpits of git commits anyway.
spyked: so far I've been looking at the project changelog and the patch history and the patches seem like a mixed bunch, with (perhaps) some useful things and breakage a la sslism. so before going further, I'd like to get some idea of what version of hunchentoot the lordship and the L2 are using
a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 21:36 lobbes: http://www.thetarpit.org/posts/y05/090-tmsr-work-ii.html#selection-197.31-205.258 << I wager there's a good chance you'll publish a genesis of tbnl/hunchentoot before I eat through mod_lisp, but I agree: as pieces emerge, we can sync up, regrind as needed, etc.
spyked: good morning, #t! following up on the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1915244 thread: I've started reviewing hunchentoot, the first step would be to figure out which code base to use as a starting point from the genesis. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( to date -- no reports of a live specimen of constructed wedge chain, afaik )
asciilifeform: ( it'd be easier to say something concrete on this subj if ye olde shitoshi had actually included a reasonable set of debug knobs. but, unsurprisingly, did not, and made it quite difficult to retrofit, also )
asciilifeform: by constructing a set of successively-longer reorgable chains that take X 'on credit to allcomer' buffers to actually evaluate
asciilifeform: nao that i think about it, iirc we indeed had thread where calculated that with 10 or so % of total hash horse , could frag the net ~by orphanage size~ ( us, 0, heathens, a range of x's )
mp_en_viaje: i recall at least a half dozen of these "nope, nm, mp was right"
mp_en_viaje: there's a romanian derrogatory negative that exactly sums this problem : "din parti" ie, "no fucking way" (literally, "made of parts"). thisis what satoshi made, the "longest chain" of "highest early block and largest total block count". this does not actually sum to "best chain"
asciilifeform: hence why asciilifeform wrote a 'cement' mechanism, where you can explicitly feed in a signed list of hashes to newborn noad
mp_en_viaje: my chain, being both a) longer and b) having a "better" early block, is therefore the "longer chain" in bitcoin sense.
asciilifeform: ( observe that it is rather inexpensive, using current-day iron, to bake a phony chain from genesis to... blk# 200k or so )
mp_en_viaje: then i could continue this way to block 620k. just as long as i have both a) longest chain and b) a more difficultuous block sometime early on, my chain is technically, by protocol rules, the true chain.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-22 22:37 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrelated to anyffing: i have a tentative thing that eats a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-20#1864354 and gives trb option of replacing 'checkpoints' with it ( i.e. on boot, tests all already-stored blox against it, and if any blox in the tape are not yet present, then it requests & accepts them and only them, 1 at a time ). do we want this for field use ? (if so i can put on conveyor for cleanup)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i still suspect that safe bringup of a noad where certain blocks are immediately stored in readonly form requires some form of a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-22#1865197 ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: moreover, this discussion illustrates a major flaw in current bitcoin protocol -- it does not correctly judge SUMS.
mp_en_viaje: so then all that's needed is a % rule. "99% means, graveyward starts where the last 1% of total difficulty starts"
asciilifeform: well for 2-level db ( 'nursery' where blocks that are thought to be part of the snake's tongue that may still reorg ; 'graveyard' where errything else ) does require a number.
mp_en_viaje: what i'm sayng here is, that a trb w/o the rainbow tables is shipped defective, like a car without wheels or w/e, toys without batteries.
asciilifeform: it's a ~linear trade of time for space tho, conceivably could use same scheme with various sizes of table, at predictable cost
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, thinkign about it, there's just no way to have a proper trb without the rainbows. and yes it'd be 32 gb, but so what. the point stands, there is a minimal bitcoin box. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: im sure his vultr comes with 192gb ram and a takedown notice if you allocate >@
asciilifeform: ( the remainder, end up asking for a second lookup )
asciilifeform: handily fits in a reasonable ram. and 99.9999% of queries will land in it in O(1)
mp_en_viaje: 32gb is a lotta unrolling in this context. and yes, not terribru idea, seeing how dataset is >100gb