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BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 583.77, vol: 8107.38220171 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 581.0, vol: 4810.71151 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 583.9899, vol: 4888.78347245 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 600.01, vol: 34.50767128 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 575.192574, vol: 2277.19400000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 584.0, vol: 5.97791428 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 587.35, vol: 41.56679934 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 998 @ 0.00013639 = 0.1361 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;eauth mircea_popescu
gribble: Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:15fe50f1e823040fe9f0418e90b7848df01f4b2a7052ce1bb09784ba
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: ;;rate FabianB 3 Ruby pympex extension, some trades etc
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user FabianB has changed from 1 to 3.
TestingUnoDosTre: a little bit late, but this was an awesome comment in the california hacker article "It IS relatively easy for an nationally/regionally accredited operation to advertise a degree program, collect tuition, and then provide low-quality education. Somehow I see a deep parallel, and the problem is what again??"
mircea_popescu: ;;rate pankkake dev, my ATC broker
gribble: Error: 'dev,' is not a valid integer.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate pankkake 3 dev, my ATC broker
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user pankkake has changed from 1 to 3.
pankkake: I don't qualify for this
mircea_popescu: ;;rate BingoBoingo 3 blogger, my ATC investment banker
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user BingoBoingo has changed from 3 to 3.
mircea_popescu: pankkake lol wut ?
pankkake: I'm holding like 0.1 BTC worth
dexX7: re wired: wasn't this mcmillan guy the one who was here a few days ago?
BingoBoingo: dexX7: Yeah
Apocalyptic: doesn't contradict the fact you may be a broker
mircea_popescu: dexX7 possibly.
BingoBoingo: He didn't do much in the public chan
dexX7: yea
mircea_popescu: ;;rate mike_c 3 blogger, dev
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user mike_c has been recorded.
pankkake: Not with a rating of 3
mircea_popescu: pankkake how do you know how i score things ?
pankkake: is there a maximum?
dexX7: 10?
mircea_popescu: 10.
pankkake: thought it was 5. maybe then
mircea_popescu: pankkake it seems you're labouring under the misapprehension that these ranks are sort-of like school marks
mircea_popescu: that's not what they are. they're statistical dampeners.
pankkake: no, I just take them as trust
mircea_popescu: the only thing someone's aggregate score tells you is how likely it is for you to have someone who knows him in your network.
mircea_popescu: and the individual score is not "how trustworthy is this guy" but "how well i am acquainted with this guy", ie, how valuable my input may be to a third party asking for references.
duduqa: "misapprehension"...boy, I´m learning good English for free here. Big THANK YOU, Mr. MP
mircea_popescu: duduqa yw
pankkake: I see
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, pankkake, i can mark as 10 someone with whom i only do 0.001 trades, inasmuch as i judge that i can 100% describe them to whoever asks
mircea_popescu: "he'
mircea_popescu: conversely i could keep someone at a 1 even if we trade millions, if it's a hit and run affair and i couldn't really tell them from adam.
BingoBoingo: ;;gettrust pankkake
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user pankkake: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=pankkake | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pankkake | Rated since: Thu Jun 6 12:07:25 2013
BingoBoingo: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 11 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
nubbins`: interesting system
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's really how the wot's supposed to work.
TestingUnoDosTre: intruiging
nubbins`: too true
TestingUnoDosTre: I'm confused though
mircea_popescu: it's a web of trust not a web of facebook likes.
nubbins`: i think the highest rating i've left anyone is maybe a 2.
TestingUnoDosTre: Let's say your .001 trader comes around looking to trade 5
pankkake: but I could trust someone I know nothing about
TestingUnoDosTre: how do you judge his merit with your system
mike_c: thanks for rating mp. i have found wot useful even for someone like me with a small graph. you rate people you trust, and then can leech off their ratings.
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre suppose this guy comes to trade 5 with you. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you don't know him, but know me. so you come to me ☟︎
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07349999 = 0.147 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "hey, what's this guy worth in trust ?" ☟︎
nubbins`: ;;rated mircea_popescu
gribble: You rated user mircea_popescu on Thu Oct 17 15:12:06 2013, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: patron of the arts.
nubbins`: yep, top of my charts
mircea_popescu: and i tell you "we've done a bunch of 0.0001 trades and i trust him to so and so and back and forth"
mircea_popescu: and you go "but specifically in this context ? "
mircea_popescu: and i go "well maybe X or maybe Y" etc.
TestingUnoDosTre: too much thinking. I'm going to go create a web of likes and dislikes ;)
BingoBoingo: Basically it is what LinkedIN imagined it could be ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lol it's the thinking that makes it powerful tho.
mircea_popescu: i can cut through the chase in about ten minutes because of it,
TestingUnoDosTre: just joking. you explained the concept quite well
mircea_popescu: and that's quite why i;'m so distrustful of various "Experts" and "ceos" and whatnot that don't have one.
pankkake: people accept anyone's friendship in linkedin. I always get recruiters as shortest paths, it's useless :(
TestingUnoDosTre: I absolutely hate recruits on linked in. It's like they believe their likelyhood of staying with a company depends on how many contacts they have
BingoBoingo: Basically the part where you contact the raters is why the apserzersorLords aren't keen on the WoT and default to Pirateat40 to justify their sloth
pankkake: they did some things right lately, you can *endorse* people
nubbins`: linkedin sucks
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the farm of evil, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.msg5902521#msg5902521
nubbins`: i'm suspicious of people who add me on it
TestingUnoDosTre: I've had some Indian dude that I briefly hung out with at work like 3 years ago ask for endorsements on his project management skills. I complied...
nubbins`: heh
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the who ?!
nubbins`: yeah, i've had people i worked with 3 years ago "endorse" me for skills out of the blue
nubbins`: doesn't make any sense
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The forum aspies
mircea_popescu: oh oh
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And the wanna be Ceo aspies
nubbins`: "the hr manager at your first job out of university has endorsed you for the following skills"
nubbins`: GREAT
pankkake: I've been endorsed for skills the people endorsing me knew nothing about. that's because it bugs you to endorse people…
mircea_popescu: useless social bs.
nubbins`: ^
BingoBoingo: The people for whom any social interaction is a greater burden then clicking button on whatever virtual BBQ retreat they go to
nubbins`: linkedin: it's like facebook, but without your friends and family
mircea_popescu: kinda why i love nanotube. he's a geek, and he's not making the wot any more social than it is
nubbins` endorsed you for the following skills: beard-growing
pankkake: I removed a lot of friends this year actually
pankkake: ahah
mircea_popescu endorses you for your girlfriend. and also endorses her.
mircea_popescu: where en-dors-ing would mean...well...
mircea_popescu: something to do with behinds.
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, weaker than usual pun :)
TestingUnoDosTre: oh my gawd that comment is priceless https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.msg5902582#msg5902582
nubbins` endorsals your gf for the following skills
nubbins`: rusty trombones
nubbins`: hot carls
mircea_popescu: it's getting harder and harder to argue with that chick
mircea_popescu: davout she totally owned joo :D
mircea_popescu: endorsaled!
nubbins`: her ignore button is no longer yellow, -1
mircea_popescu: "would ignore again ++++"
pankkake: because of thermos
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: pankkake really?
pankkake: yes, because it slows down the server or some crap
nubbins`: so you could say that thermos has... INSULATED her?
nubbins` cackles
pankkake: because that obviously can't be cached…
nubbins`: btctalk is fucked these past few days
nubbins`: i get a 500 error upon first connect, without fail
nubbins`: hit refresh, it loads
pankkake: who's behind https://bitcointa.lk/ by the way?
nubbins`: open a thread w/ images, all broken. refresh, all there.
dexX7: hehe wanted to drop bitcointa.lk too
nubbins`: pankkake: i think thermos is, so he can cut and run with the forum upgrade funds
nubbins`: ;D
dexX7: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/208sss/say_hello_to_2014_bitcointalk_i_created/
ozbot: Say Hello to 2014, Bitcointalk. I created Bitcointa.lk, a real alternative to Bitcointalk.org. 5 mil
mircea_popescu: o wait wait... the 3k btc worth of server can be slowed down ?
mircea_popescu: dexX7 maybe drop the guy a note to come by ?
mircea_popescu: i think pretty much everyone likes him by now.
TestingUnoDosTre: what did he do?
mircea_popescu: an undeletable tardstalk
mircea_popescu: well... undeletable by the same crowd at any rate.
TestingUnoDosTre: did that guy just copy bitcointalk?
dexX7: it's a mirror
BingoBoingo: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/no-women-allowed-why-men-served-lunch-nuclear-summit-n61706
ozbot: No Women Allowed? Why Men Served Lunch at Nuclear Summit - NBC News
davout: mircea_popescu: haha yeah, "ceci n'est pas un ownage"
dexX7: i think this is the original thread on btctalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=515932.0
mircea_popescu: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CD0QtwIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.secretservice.gov%2Fjoin&ei=9CEyU9nLH82shQf-toCIBg&usg=AFQjCNE_cmlK613EqMnFHoIjvZgI30-x-Q
nubbins`: davout: "but it is an ownage!" "okay, then, smoke it" "..."
mircea_popescu: hey, anyone recall that iconic confidence scam scene where the guy pretends to be an ex marine waiting for a money order ?
davout: i know of one where the guy pretended to be a pirate or sthg
mircea_popescu: no, he pretended to be a stranded marine
mircea_popescu: prmised the mark 30 bucks out of his inexistent check,
mircea_popescu: mark gets his check first, offers 30 bucks
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riy4God934c
ozbot: House of Games (1987) - Short Con - Western Union Scene - YouTube
mircea_popescu: ty invisible hand
TestingUnoDosTre: hahaha that was awesome
nubbins`: house of brutal acting
mircea_popescu: yeah they can't act
mircea_popescu: kinda makes the thing stronger, imo.
punkman: good movie
punkman: that "thank you sir, may I have another" was hilarious in the end
nubbins`: hm, mamet
nubbins`: i saw glengarry glen ross earlier today for the first time
mircea_popescu: one should never see that film for the first time.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=520882.msg5902901#msg5902901
ozbot: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide
nubbins`: i don't know what that means
mircea_popescu: lol !b 1
nubbins`: you ruined it ;(
mircea_popescu: aww
assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1756474/plain/)
nubbins`: !b 4 ✂︎
nubbins` cackles
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.60235671 = 10.8424 BTC [-] {10}
nubbins`: so my folks don't like their neighbours. the kid just got hauled off in a cop car. mom sez:
nubbins`: "Young Ronnie is just gone off in a cop car. Looks like he's handcuffed. Bozo and Dogface left right after in their car."
nubbins`: heh
mircea_popescu: bozo and dogface ? your folks sound pretty cool.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00602382 = 0.4638 BTC [-] {7}
nubbins`: mom had a glass of wine with supper, guess she's all brazen now
mircea_popescu: nubbins` anyway, the comment was a contrived "you should see it multiple times"
nubbins`: aha, i figured as much
TestingUnoDosTre: Alright... this video get's boring between like 0:30 and 1:45, but it produces continual excitement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o96MUuM-UM
TestingUnoDosTre: * after that
nubbins`: between that and wall street last night, i ended up remembering that "salesman" was totally a thing that men were, for a while there
nubbins`: so anyway the movie recommendations from you guys are 2 for 2 so far
nubbins`: what's next?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.048 = 0.192 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05739998 = 0.1722 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/category/trilematograf/
ozbot: Trilematograf pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: o look what i found! asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2011/daca-eram/ an excursion in the romanian ribald tradition
nubbins`: hm, i've seen maybe 90% of the english movies you've reviewed
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOZztHuPfmg < part of it with interpretation
ozbot: Parazitii - Daca Eram (Necenzurat) - YouTube
nubbins`: cannibal holocaust was a piece of shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.04939866 = 0.3458 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.05403334 = 0.3242 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: it was lol.
mircea_popescu: "Daca eram un canibal si te prindeam cu o urata te luam la pula-n scurt baga-mi-as pula-n ea de strimba."
mircea_popescu: intraductible.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.054 = 0.108 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "Daca eram gropar te ingropam drept in ocean si-apoi la vaduva-i bateam, zimbind, cu pula-n geam." if i were an undertaker i'd had undertook you straight to the ocean and then i'd be arround knocking in the widow's window with my inflamed schlong
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell benkay Idea
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Monopoly goes BernanKoin http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/03/25/monopoly_house_rules_hasbro_is_crowdsourcing_changes_to_the_official_rulebook.html
mircea_popescu: anyone seen revenge of the cheerleaders btw ?
nubbins`: the mint doesn't fuck off with these "9x% sold out!" emails
nubbins`: i read "9x% sold out" and i translate as "we're having a hard time getting rid of these shit coins!"
mircea_popescu: possibly worse than canibal holocaust. also tits and ass.
benkay: what's this notion you have BingoBoingo?
nubbins`: CH borders on Troma territory
nubbins`: like what was the one... I Was a Nymphomaniac Barbarian in Dinosaur Hell, or something?
nubbins` shakes head at the memory
mircea_popescu: nubbins` revenge of the cheerleaders thing is basically "rent an old space opera B set, make some floozies run naked around it"
nubbins`: funny style of revenge
mircea_popescu: it's not that it doesn't make sense
mircea_popescu: it's more that you can't figure out what it doesn't make sense about.
nubbins`: heh.
nubbins`: "this isn't right. it isn't even wrong"
mircea_popescu: amir speaking in an amir-designed microphone would be a decent approximation
mircea_popescu: yeah.
nubbins`: now i'm imagining a man shouting into a sandwich
mircea_popescu: into half a sandwich which for some reason has some packing peanuts glued to a jello tin
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: "maybe it
nubbins`: 's not turned on"
mircea_popescu: "then why the erection"
nubbins`: pouring drain cleaner on it
nubbins`: stapling it
nubbins`: etc
nubbins`: so we're set to have a -- no joke, this is what they're calling it -- "weather bomb" on wednesday night/thursday morning
mircea_popescu: someone set your weather the bomb ?
TestingUnoDosTre: <BingoBoing> absolutely great article on monopoly house rules
mircea_popescu: your client truncates TestingUnoDosTre
mircea_popescu: davout how the fuck do you have more activity than mpoe-pr
mircea_popescu: do you even sleep!
nubbins`: i even saw davout posting on reddit today
nubbins`: anyway, should be a shit show, since the city laid off 80 of its 130 snow clearing workers this past friday
davout: mircea_popescu: that's because you'll always be a newfag to me :D
nubbins`: resulting in such situations as this:
nubbins`: ...as i fail to find the link
nubbins`: anyway a garbage truck was making its way down a steep road, lost control, picked up TWO CARS parked on the curb and brought them down with it
nubbins`: finally smashed into an SUV at the bottom of the hill, saving the occupants of the adjacent house from certain death
nubbins`: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjlgQqVIEAA8DKY.jpg
nubbins`: there we go
nubbins`: for reference, that picture was taken 3pm today and the snow stopped falling YESTERDAY.
nubbins`: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bjlf19dIIAAYDa8.jpg
nubbins`: ah, heh, i actually know that tall garbageman in between the truck and the green car
nubbins`: he always posts facebook status updates about the heavy metal CDs he's listening to in the truck that day, and says things like "heavy metal garbage truck: where long hair is the law"
moiety: evening mews all :)
moiety: hows everyone?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00266649 = 2.1332 BTC [-] {27}
benkay: i have a beer-suds mewstach, moiety
moiety: excellent work benkay, i have a pressed grape thingamajig here, i dont think it will give me a mewstache though D:
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04800133 = 0.144 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: i'm debating running to the store before it closes
moiety: do it because 5 minutes after it does you will wish you had gone
moiety: or is that just me?
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/father-ordered-to-leave-canada-after-choking-daughter-1.2585455?cmp=rss
ozbot: Father ordered to leave Canada after choking daughter - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
nubbins`: man throttles daughter in greasy fish-and-chips shack
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00260697 = 0.7821 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: you'd think at 30 he'd be glad to get shot of her
cedivad: "an undeletable tardstalk"
nubbins`: the best part is where it says she secretly already married the guy
cedivad: that's me, yes
moiety: o.o "...went into the washroom to text her boyfriend, who happened to be at the police station laying charges against Alshaek for the earlier incident at the restaurant." well that probably helped the case
nubbins`: cedivad, welcome
nubbins`: the best part is at the end. apparently it was the new husband who should have been choking her
nubbins`: "Alshaek said through an interpreter that if he'd known that, it would have changed everything. Alshaek said he would not longer have been responsible for disciplining his daughter — that would fall to the husband."
adolf_fishler: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5nhhpWIlj1qc1he5o1_500.jpg
nubbins`: the greasy spoon in question is maybe a 5 minute walk from here
TestingUnoDosTre: still truncating/
adolf_fishler: too fat.
adolf_fishler: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5j3ir0SZC1qkoo3yo1_500.jpg
adolf_fishler: not fat enough
adolf_fishler: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m63x0ulTmf1qdhl8uo1_1280.jpg
adolf_fishler: whoa, too much dick
davout: bah
adolf_fishler: who let the man in here
adolf_fishler: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m66fsaCWxE1r1rxrbo1_500.png
nubbins`: bum shelf
pankkake: http://cdn-w.pornstarblognetwork.com/clubkacistar.com/public_html/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Kaci-Starr-Teasing-005.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.048 = 0.192 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.054 = 0.216 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.10144642 = 0.4058 BTC [-] {2}
adolf_fishler: who the fuck is that
adolf_fishler: ?
pankkake: answer in url
adolf_fishler: someone needs to put that whale
adolf_fishler: back into the sea
benkay: :(
nubbins`: ah fuck the store closes in three minutes
nubbins`: it's too late D:
benkay: that first one was great
pankkake: i thought you wanted fatter
nubbins`: someone recommend a movie
adolf_fishler: haha
benkay: Tank Girl
nubbins`: veto
adolf_fishler: no you severely underestimated
adolf_fishler: the fattness
adolf_fishler: of my request
adolf_fishler: i want her to be like, cant get out of bed
adolf_fishler: and i have to wash her fat rolls daily
Duffer1: nubbins`someone recommend a movie >> The Secret of Nimh
nubbins`: seen it
benkay: the fourth fast and the furious
nubbins`: :(
Duffer1: The Dark Crystal
nubbins`: seen it
nubbins`: (great movie btw)
benkay: neverending story
moiety: oh btw nubbins` you are the only other person ive met (otherthan who showed it to me) that has seen Funny Games, highly underrated film
nubbins`: guys i'm 32 years old
cazalla: kaci starr is fine for me, love em chubby like that
Duffer1: same nub ^.^
nubbins`: moiety: the silence+breakdown at the end shook me to the core
adolf_fishler: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/070/9/d/4_sexy_chinese_girls_by_cfs5403-d5xoxjm.jpg
adolf_fishler: here is not bad
nubbins`: i guess i didn't spec it out enough
nubbins`: recommend a movie for adults that isn't about honda civics
adolf_fishler: hrm
adolf_fishler: what kind of movies
adolf_fishler: u like?>
moiety: the red hair but on the farthest right girl would be perfect
adolf_fishler: matchstick men
adolf_fishler: is a good movie
adolf_fishler: ya she's nice.
moiety: momento nubbins`
nubbins`: an interesting drama or something with intrigue
adolf_fishler: WATCH MATCHSTICK MEN
nubbins`: seen memento
moiety: memento*
adolf_fishler: ITS A GREAT MOVIE
adolf_fishler: it wont disappoint.
moiety: cache
Duffer1: first season of Rick & Morty
nubbins`: nicolas cage, really?
moiety: actually if you thought funny games was disturbing, don't watch cache
adolf_fishler: trust me
adolf_fishler: its his best movie
adolf_fishler: you have to trust me on this one.
nubbins`: that's like saying x is the best altcoin
adolf_fishler: how long have we known each other, TRUST ME
nubbins`: or a blender is the best way to lose your dick
adolf_fishler: it has a good cast
adolf_fishler: - cage
nubbins`: ok, ok, i'll trust you on this
nubbins`: you better not fuck me
adolf_fishler: i wont i promise
adolf_fishler: its a good fucking movie
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00260346 = 0.2994 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: cage
benkay: nubbins`: u gettans trolled
punkman: nubbins`: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0972542/
nubbins`: benkay i know right?
moiety: nubbins`: have you seen I come with the rain?
nubbins`: nicolas "the numbers are the key to everything" cage
adolf_fishler: ;o
nubbins`: moiety nope
adolf_fishler: no thats jim " everything adds up to 23 " carey
nubbins`: nah cage did one too
moiety: please do at some point, again disturbing but awesomely done
nubbins`: "knowing" or something
nubbins`: altho that did have an EPIC plane crash
moiety: its pretty violent in bits too though, be aware
nubbins`: the movie itself was such a stack of shit
adolf_fishler: yeah
adolf_fishler: it wasn't great.
adolf_fishler: however it ranks high on the list of
adolf_fishler: cage movies ive seen
adolf_fishler: i like con air
adolf_fishler: it was prett ygodo
adolf_fishler: but that could be a john malcovich movie
adolf_fishler: instead of a cage movie.
nubbins`: actually, being john malkovich is maybe the only cage movie i like
adolf_fishler: da fuq
adolf_fishler: cage was in that?
moiety: all i hear is sweet home alabama whenever con air is mentioned
nubbins`: wait fuck that was cusack
nubbins`: HAHAHAH
adolf_fishler: lol
nubbins`: see?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: What about "Bad Lieutenant"
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: tried it, stopped about 10m in
Duffer1: Gross Point Blank?
nubbins`: saw it
Duffer1: cusak
adolf_fishler: if ur gonna watch
adolf_fishler: one cage movie
adolf_fishler: make it match stick men
nubbins`: you sure i shouldn't watch the one about the bees?
adolf_fishler: isnt that sienfeld?
moiety: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1024744/
ozbot: I Come with the Rain (2009) - IMDb
adolf_fishler: this movie
adolf_fishler: is quite awesome also
adolf_fishler: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123755/
ozbot: Cube (1997) - IMDb
nubbins`: saw it
adolf_fishler: cant believe it only gets 7.4
adolf_fishler: u like?
nubbins`: cube is canadian :D
adolf_fishler: o
adolf_fishler: i didnt know
nubbins`: acting sucked, great concept
moiety: how do you feel about subtitles nubbins`?
thestringpuller: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdoADutGZg
nubbins`: i don't mind em
thestringpuller: ^- random but like wtf
nubbins`: oh also guys, the real fuckbook is back, according to these ads
nubbins`: apparently their site has too many hot women, so older men join free
mircea_popescu: nubbins` clearly not even the google works in canada now that they fired the snowplows.
moiety: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0901487/?ref_=nv_sr_2
ozbot: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom (2008) - IMDb
moiety: The Good The Bad The Weird
mircea_popescu: davout im not that new, i'm like almost bitcoin bodhisattva rank here.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Seen Sharknado yet?
adolf_fishler: haha
adolf_fishler: that movie
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: except for nanotube
adolf_fishler: is amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
adolf_fishler: the ending
nubbins`: moiety i'm ruined on korean movies
adolf_fishler: is so epic to sharknado
nubbins`: watched too many of them
cazalla: get with the times, it's all about sharkalanche now
adolf_fishler: how about shocktopus
mircea_popescu: "curb it" ahahaha
moiety: nubbins`: Impossible!
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Which James Bond movies haven't you watched?
Duffer1: nubbins' http://www.imdb.com/genre/?ref_=nv_ch_gr_5
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: if you're a bodhisattva nanotube is buddha
thestringpuller: lol
adolf_fishler: someone ban popescu he doesnt have enough women to be in this channel
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: the most recent ones with daniel craig
mircea_popescu: cedivad o hey, nice work.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Any of those three are actually great.
nubbins`: ah
nubbins`: well matchstick men is at the top of the list for now
nubbins`: but keep em coming
moiety: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382077/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_31
ozbot: Hide and Seek (2005) - IMDb
nubbins`: moiety quotes from that korean movie:
adolf_fishler: rofl
adolf_fishler: i saw that
adolf_fishler: movie was pretty funny
nubbins`: Man-gil: The bounty on your head is 300 won. Yoon Tae-goo: What? I'm only worth a piano? Man-gil: A used one at that.
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre i dunno, do you see BingoBoingo as <BingoBoingo> or <BingoBoing> ?
nubbins`: 300 won is like $0.30
moiety: OMG nubbins` BEST film ever have you seen The Man From Nowhere????? its the best thing ive ever seen
moiety: its like Taken but with bells on
BingoBoingo: ;;ident BingoBoingo
gribble: Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None
cedivad: thank you mircea_popescu
Duffer1: nubbins' Dark City
moiety got excited - spologies
moiety: apologies*
nubbins`: moiety: srsly, i'm ruined on korean movies
nubbins`: i lost count of how many gritty revenge thrillers i saw
nubbins`: Duffer1 saw it
adolf_fishler: i thought u said
moiety: sigh ok, watch I come with the rain , its a thai director but its english language
adolf_fishler: girthy revenge thrillers
adolf_fishler: iwas confused for a sec
mircea_popescu: wait is bodhisattva good ?
mircea_popescu: i thought it was kinda sucky
nubbins`: not sure but it was the name of a dispensary in Weeds
thestringpuller: lol
nubbins`: which, incidentally, sucked
thestringpuller: nancy botwin....
nubbins`: so full circle there i guess
thestringpuller: made that show suck
thestringpuller: they should have just killed her off and replaced her
moiety: how many arms does it have? or belly size....generally an indication
mircea_popescu: adolf_fishler which one are you ?
nubbins`: heh
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you saw true romance ?
adolf_fishler: which one?
nubbins`: yep
adolf_fishler: go on
mircea_popescu: how about four rooms ?
adolf_fishler: omg
adolf_fishler: popescu
adolf_fishler: so few people
adolf_fishler: know that movie
adolf_fishler: epic movie
adolf_fishler: wierd as shit but i love it
adolf_fishler: the dead person in the bed is my fav part
nubbins`: four rooms, saw it
mircea_popescu: jackie brown ?
nubbins`: i think bruce willis was uncredited in that
nubbins`: saw it
nubbins`: many times, most recently last month
adolf_fishler: he was great there also
moiety: Donnie Brasco!
nubbins`: saw it
nubbins`: also great
mircea_popescu: casino, bronx story, etc
nubbins`: saw, saw
adolf_fishler: home alone 2
moiety: i love casino but i havent seenbronx story
adolf_fishler: the porno.
mircea_popescu: o i got one you've not seen : hot summer in the city
mircea_popescu: 70s sexploitation.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Maybe instead of watching make the shitty animated version of -assets?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu actually, saw it
nubbins`: i have a friend with a massive collection of blax
nubbins`: blacula, black jesus, etc
nubbins`: blackenstein
mircea_popescu: o hey.
moiety: lol blacula
adolf_fishler: how come
mircea_popescu: you gotta send me this.
adolf_fishler: transylvania
adolf_fishler: is associated with dracula?
adolf_fishler: in my mind
nubbins`: adolf_fishler prolly some crossed wires
adolf_fishler: hrm
adolf_fishler: could be
nubbins`: dracula was from ohio
moiety: youve watched too much sesame street adolf_fishler
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you seen white cat, blakc cat ?
adolf_fishler: lies
adolf_fishler: theres a nintendo game!
nubbins`: nope
BingoBoingo: Ohio is THE worst
mircea_popescu: a, great film. you'll prolly love the music.
nubbins`: yugoslav romantic comedy?!
moiety: wait is there actual cats in this mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: not really romantic in any sense
nubbins`: incidentally i noticed there was some Talking Heads in wall street
Apocalyptic: is four rooms any good ?
mircea_popescu: but bregovic plays.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic definitely.
nubbins`: Apocalyptic its worth a watch
nubbins`: tim roth, pre-tupac
mircea_popescu: moiety just a pair.
Apocalyptic: k guys
mircea_popescu: nubbins` how about sea of love ?
mircea_popescu: old pacino.
nubbins`: haven't seen it, and we have a winner.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` also, malena must see.
nubbins`: so sea of love, gravity, and matchstick men
nubbins` pops corn
mircea_popescu: and spielen with liebe, and for that matter bycicle thieves
mircea_popescu: with lol
mircea_popescu: mit
nubbins`: liebe und frieden!
BingoBoingo: My goal for the next year. Meet up sort of people to start asking other meetup people if they are me https://twitter.com/DorianSatoshi/status/448634060307705856
Duffer1: nubbins' The Fountain
mircea_popescu: also liz taylor'
mircea_popescu: s weird movies. x y and zee
moiety: has anyone seen this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097108/ i just remember it being really strange
mircea_popescu: oh and vozvrashchenie
mircea_popescu: moiety was so-so
mircea_popescu: thye didn't do nearly enough nudity i nythe 80s
moiety: one of those they focussed too much on making it look a certain way and not on the story
nubbins`: fountain looks ok
mircea_popescu: an entire decade of these completely stranged movies, that are sorta like a 15yo prissy rendition of "risque"
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakville,_Washington
ozbot: Oakville, Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: spermdrops falling on my farm, boy...
Duffer1: nubbins' it wasn't my favorite, but i believe it's underrated
mircea_popescu: nubbins` btw, pink flamingos ?
moiety: lmao @ "handling the blobs"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.048 = 0.192 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.054 = 0.216 BTC [-]
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mircea_popescu: also malizia (the one with laura antonelli_
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00270701 = 0.1489 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg5872355#msg5872355
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moiety: I have a pink flamingo! http://i.imgur.com/HClc33U.jpg frances, slightly stolen from a hawaiian party
mircea_popescu: so basically kraken claims it passed whatgever "proof of reserves" audit thing
mircea_popescu: but there's scores of people ciomplaining they've not received their withdrawals etc
mircea_popescu: on the off chance anyone here was silly enough to have btc there, prolly a good idea to get them out asap, this looks as awful as it getds.
mircea_popescu: moiety tis a film tho.
BingoBoingo: md4 puzzle HEX: 50BF68999A8C67CE26B191DCA5D331A8 or B64: UL9omZqMZ84msZHcpdMxqA==
moiety: mircea_popescu: bubble burst
BingoBoingo: Kraken has been toxic almost as long as vircurex, haven't they?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg5862210#msg5862210 <<< you broke it!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nah, much more recent, and originally they looked legit
mircea_popescu: something that never really was the case for vircurex
BingoBoingo: Well they pulled their name after your PR supposed a Pirate like thing named Craken in the famous Posting the called out Pirate
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=524071.msg5896886#msg5896886
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo did they ?
mircea_popescu: RagnarsBitch who the fuck is ragnar ?
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, they just finished a 5 mio funding round
BingoBoingo: Well, WHat came first them or the PR saying how to clone Pirate post?
mircea_popescu: ragnar le viking ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo pirate post was april 2012, kraken was like august 2013ish
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic except they had a 600 btc hole from before.
mircea_popescu: that's 3-4mn of the round.
Apocalyptic: i guess that's why they did it
mircea_popescu: and in general holes are rarely solo.
BingoBoingo: See, the Kraken name's jsut always seemed too toxic.
Apocalyptic: but then kinda dubious why would some potential investors want to patch that hole
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you saw actual paper that it actually happened ?
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: WHo says they know better?
mircea_popescu: in general nothing keeps someone from claiming they got funded.
Apocalyptic: I didn't
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: "Investors" patched Vircurex's 1000+ BTC hole the first time...
Apocalyptic: true, so you think it's just some PR move on thin air ?
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, unwillingly so
asciilifeform: re: kraken et al: makes me wonder how much chumpatronium fuel is left.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anything any particular way
asciilifeform: do we get to see 'Peak Chump' ?
mircea_popescu: but their pr is spiraling out of control in a certain pattern. that's usually the end sign.
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: You might be confusing that with the second hole in vircurex.
Apocalyptic: I may indeed
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform peak chump actually was 2011.
mircea_popescu: in btc terms
Apocalyptic: haven't followed that vircurex story since the beginning
asciilifeform: '11 was before the fiat world shat forth the 'btc investment phunds' etc
asciilifeform: so perhaps peak chump is now. or, shortly.
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> i don't think anything any particular way // your question seemed to imply otherwise
BingoBoingo: Vircurex went: 1) hole 2) Investment 3) hole boogaloo 4) scam 5) BTC-TC and Buttfunder died 6) Cryptostocks scamissance 7) Advertising "Interest" 8) Freeze Mothafucker
asciilifeform: it's like watching a 'bug zapper'
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic im just not taking anything for granted at this point.
asciilifeform: flitter - flitter - bzzz
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, fair enough
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but back then 1k btc was peanuts.
asciilifeform: point
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Vircurex's AssPO was actually spring 2013
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well yeah
BingoBoingo: When a BTC was ending it's cheapphase
BingoBoingo: Eh, I know what Imma blogging tonight. Asparagus is going to have to wait.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 42 @ 0.00532521 = 0.2237 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: "Vircurex, never even amateur" seem like a decent title for a Vircurex post?
BingoBoingo: The post is basically going to be "Vircurex went: 1) hole 2) Investment 3) hole boogaloo 4) scam 5) BTC-TC and Buttfunder died 6) Cryptostocks scamissance 7) Advertising "Interest" 8) Freeze Mothafucker" with elaboration
nubbins`: hm, raspberry pi reboots when i insert a usb drive
nubbins`: pretty sure that shouldn't happen
adolf_fishler: try throwing it
adolf_fishler: at your dog
asciilifeform: nubbins`: weak voltage regulator
nubbins`: can't; no case, no dog
MisterE: morning
MisterE: neighbor dog
asciilifeform: nubbins`: raspi is a turd in 20 different ways.
adolf_fishler: nieghhhhbors horse
nubbins`: it's a cat neighbourhood
adolf_fishler: lol
adolf_fishler: hoa rules?
MisterE: thats why they so cheep
adolf_fishler: no dogs?
nubbins`: asciilifeform: agreed, but it's lovely for streaming media to the tv :D
adolf_fishler: do people walk cats there?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: one of the worst fiddybucks i ever spent
nubbins`: adolf_fishler: occasionally. mostly they just let em wander
MisterE: cat is the internet spirit animal dont fuck with cats
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: find the best cat pictures
BingoBoingo: *finds
nubbins`: asciilifeform: not me, but that's just because i've spent fiddy bucks on terrible shit in the past
adolf_fishler: can i has poland?
adolf_fishler: CAN I HAS POLAND?
adolf_fishler: oh its i can has poland.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo not really a good title
mircea_popescu: it's not clear what it's supposed to mean.
nubbins`: adolf_fishler: if matchstick men sucks, you're fucking DEAD
adolf_fishler: rofl
adolf_fishler: if matchstick men sucks
adolf_fishler: ill put on an apron
adolf_fishler: and be ur wife
adolf_fishler: for a week
nubbins`: I HAVE A WIFE
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
adolf_fishler: well
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well I asked for a reason
adolf_fishler: ill come fuck her
adolf_fishler: for a week then
adolf_fishler: hows that sound.
nubbins`: adolf_fishler: no you won't, she doesn't like rice
nubbins`: (see what i did there?)
adolf_fishler: lol ;o
nubbins` cackles, turns on movie
adolf_fishler: nope
adolf_fishler: oh u dl already?
adolf_fishler: u guys seen matchstick men?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: find the best cat pictures << http://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/0/38/551/38551326_1232655606_medvedev_i_manul.jpg
adolf_fishler: lol
adolf_fishler: ok i laff
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3302/reden5.0/0_1d54_b60d10aa_orig
adolf_fishler: in real life
adolf_fishler: what the fuck
BingoBoingo: Those are the ones
mircea_popescu: ok ima have to ignore this dood. too loud.
adolf_fishler: what my enter smashing habbits too much for you?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If our local strays were like that I'd have much less coyote handling to do on my walks
asciilifeform: these aren't housecats, though.
asciilifeform: ;;google manul
gribble: Pallas's cat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <;' target='_blank'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallas's_cat>; Manul – the Cat that Time Forgot ~ The Ark In Space: <http://www.arkinspace.com/2011/04/manul-cat-that-time-forgot.html>; Pallas's Cat Manul - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13bkwYYcxE>
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BingoBoingo: Well, coyote handling doesn't involve putting hands to coyotes either
asciilifeform: aha, 'handling' in the german 'Sonderbehandlung' sense.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.10144642 = 1.2174 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: where do you even live that has coyote.
BingoBoingo: Well step 1) spot coyote at a dumpster 2) growl and intimidate coyote away from dumpster 3) Piss on dumpster maintaining eye contact with coyote
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Illinois
BingoBoingo: Rural southern Illinois
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo can women do this ?
BingoBoingo: Prolly
mircea_popescu: you ever seen it done ? or know for a fact ?
moiety: asciilifeform: i have a manul as my profile pic now
BingoBoingo: Not seen women do this. Personally done these steps a few times this winter.
asciilifeform: moiety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoBjtE2ffJs
moiety: lol that one is even bigger!!!!!
mircea_popescu: im kinda curious if it'd work.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0731999 = 0.1464 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well coyotes aren't that big and I haven't seen them in packs here.
mircea_popescu: the entire thing'd hinge on whether the animal responds to the behaviour or to the chemical.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform interesting, these aren't really cats, more like leopards.
asciilifeform: ~lynx sized, afaik
mircea_popescu: i originally thought they're basically stray cats that took to the wild
mircea_popescu: but seems not
asciilifeform: it's one of those 'not quite extinct' exotic beasts
mircea_popescu: yea
asciilifeform: for some reason, the archetypical russian lolcat
moiety: lmfao is this cat polite
mircea_popescu: "Like rabbits, after eating they initially produce soft green feces, which they eat again to take in further nutrition, before producing the final, solid, fecal pellets."
mircea_popescu: (pikas)
moiety: the manul is where modern cast comes from, they havent changed in 12 million years
nubbins`: well matchstick men is a piece of shit so far
asciilifeform: it being 'felis', could probably be crossed with housecat
asciilifeform: paging zoologists.
moiety: cats*
chetty: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/i-r-s-says-bitcoin-should-be-considered-property-not-currency/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&hp&_r=1&
benkay: mircea_popescu: kraken signed with the 600B addy last time i ready
benkay: read*
moiety: i think its a shame they keep them in zoos, they are so solitary their immune systems cant handle living so near people and modern day life, they get sick and die a lot :(
mircea_popescu: benkay sure, but that was never in question. if I have 5 that owe me 600 btc pay to the same one address, the fact that i can prove i have received 600 btc in that address is neither here nor there
mircea_popescu: the fact that i can't univocally resolve their claims is the problem, and decoying it doens't breed confidence.
mircea_popescu: on the contrary, it ruins reputations.
asciilifeform pictures a scammer who provides 'wiggle XXX coin address' service to other scammerz
mircea_popescu: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_matc3bAwmE1qen79bo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i imagine it's coming, but it wouldn't have worked in this case.
moiety: asciilifeform: so basically if i want a job involving manuls, i need to go to uni. sucks.
benkay: HAW
benkay: no shit they signed from an addy that wasn't that to which their 600 missing were sent?
benkay: lawd ahmighty
mircea_popescu: benkay no no it's like this :
mircea_popescu: reports surfaced that they showed the same deposit address(es) to multiple users.
mircea_popescu: those people sent btc there.
asciilifeform: this, for some reason, inescapably reminds me of the folks who sell the fake piss to dope aficionados
mircea_popescu: the fact that they can show that some btc made it there is not relevant.
mircea_popescu: the fact that they can't apportion the sent btc to the various users is the problem
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The way to reduce piss test fraud is to give portions of the tested at times asparagus and other times no asparagus
mircea_popescu: somehow nobody picked on "hey, one address per transaction has its issues as a model" as a result, either.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the common factor isn't the sham, but the lack of any serious desire on the part of the shammed to probe deeper.
MisterE: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu : this is what you need, will solve all your problems... http://i.imgur.com/Po4yC.jpg
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for most of the testees having to eat asparagus prolly qualifies as cruel and unusual.
MisterE: I took that pic, real product
MisterE: Asparagus is delecious
BingoBoingo: MisterE: The thing is coyotes don't make sounds like either dogs or cats, they hoot like owls
MisterE: if not overcooked
BingoBoingo: Asparagus is great
MisterE: hOOters eh?
moiety: asciilifeform: what does this one say? http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3302/reden5.0/0_1d54_b60d10aa_orig
MisterE: Beware this credit card scam, tons of guys losing money to it! http://i.imgur.com/1jsoff4.jpg
asciilifeform: moiety: 'so you aren't fond of cats? / then we are coming to you!'
moiety: lololol ty :)
moiety adds to manul collection
adolf_fishler: my question
adolf_fishler: who is the camera man here
MisterE: timer
MisterE: yay! http://insecure.org/news/fulldisclosure/
moiety: "a fresh start (rather than importing the old Full Disclosure member addresses)", ie. he wasn't allowed them
asciilifeform: at this point, burden of proof of lack of diabolical (i.e. nsa) involvement is, sadly, on the curator
asciilifeform: mailing lists 'can also have problems'
BingoBoingo: http://gawker.com/cnn-producers-arrested-for-trespassing-at-the-world-tra-1551650052
ozbot: Two CNN Producers Arrested in Sad Attempt to Break into the WTC Site
asciilifeform: http://gawker.com/secret-service-agents-sent-home-from-amsterdam-for-part-1551701724
ozbot: Secret Service Agents Sent Home From Amsterdam For Partying Too Hard
benkay: this is similar to what happens to american kids when they encounter alcohol for the first time at age 18.
benkay: and similar to what happens to the remaining rule abiding ones who wait until they're 21.
moiety: is it just the scots that start at like, 14-16 then?
benkay: so the local three dee printing get together is an utter crankshow
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asciilifeform: moiety: is it just the scots that start at like, 14-16 << i thought they started at ~ -1
asciilifeform: moiety: do you folks still have 'drambuie' ?
BingoBoingo: Ugh
asciilifeform: when i think of scotland, i think of drambuie, haggis, bagpipe, and james clerk maxwell.
asciilifeform: together.
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moiety: thats pretty much it
asciilifeform: who needs more.
moiety: and pey, my aunt lives across the road from a drambuie place
asciilifeform: how many nations have a maxwell.
moiety: shes been given free bottles at christmas time and stuff
asciilifeform: re: drambuie: mendeleev's great discovery wasn't periodic table of elements, but how to make strong drink non-flammable.
asciilifeform: ;;google mendeleev 40 degrees
gribble: Dmitry Mendeleev and 40 degrees of Russian vodka - English ...: <http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/21-11-2011/119683-dmitry_mendeleev_vodka-0/>; History of Russian vodka | Mendeleyev | Original Russian alcoholic ...: <http://www.vodka-tf.com/history_of_vodka/>; Vodka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodka>
moiety: also: add cream, its also the best kind of drambuie
asciilifeform: or perhaps not.
moiety: re James Clerk Maxwell, the building named after him and Edinburger uni is pretty immense http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/images/jcmb115-585.jpg?1247494244
moiety: at*
asciilifeform: ;;google the maxwellians
gribble: The Maxwellians (Cornell History of Science): Bruce J. Hunt ...: <http://www.amazon.com/The-Maxwellians-Cornell-History-Science/dp/0801482348>; The Maxwellians by Bruce J. Hunt — Reviews, Discussion ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3796857-the-maxwellians>; The Maxwellians - Bruce J. Hunt - Google Books: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: recommended.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean on cartwright ? or on fyodor ?
mircea_popescu: lol nioce one BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: cartwright?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Which one? The CNN dorks who could not act like white trash?
mircea_popescu: yeah
BingoBoingo: Ah
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the original maintainer
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: either
asciilifeform: both
mircea_popescu: and wtf you people with your gawker. what the hell is this, we're supposed to be gun totin' libertarians, we reading gawker nao ?!
mircea_popescu: this is a complete breakdown of the system
BingoBoingo: Gawker amazes me in its ability to oscilate between the relevant and the worst fermented turds in the sun
asciilifeform: 'from entomological interest only', as russians say
BingoBoingo: lol
mircea_popescu: i can;t for the life of me figure how exactly russia taking crimea disqualifies it as an industrialised country.
asciilifeform: 'Like excrement, it contains enough undigested nuggets of nutrition to sustain life for some. But it is not a tasty pie...' - dennis ritchie
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever see film 'mean girls' ?
moiety: this is the best woman in russia http://youtu.be/odEiLWJYBL4
mircea_popescu: im not sure. maybe not
asciilifeform: it merely got kicked out of the 'plastik fantastiks', that's all
mircea_popescu: oic.
benkay: hey smartypants: what's the 3d imaging technique where you use some knowledge of the lens distortion to compute a point cloud?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The thing is Americans based on pre-fracking thought reflexively seem to disqualify nations capable of producing fuel from the ranks of the industrialized and are only beginning to shine that light on themselves
mircea_popescu: ;;google 3d imaging technique where you use some knowledge of the lens distortion to compute a point cloud
gribble: Point cloud densification - Department of Computing Science ...: <http://www8.cs.umu.se/~tfy98mfn/exjobb/report.pdf>; 2nd Assignment 776-Spring2013_v2: <http://www.cs.unc.edu/~jmf/teaching/spring2013/2ndAssignment2013.pdf>; Photogrammetry - Agisoft: <http://www.agisoft.ru/wiki/Photogrammetry>
moiety: mircea_popescu: if you can remember a time where lindsay lohan had reach puberty but not fucked up on drugs yet (yes it was a small window) that would be mean girls
mircea_popescu: oh i think i know it.
asciilifeform: moiety: best woman in russia << http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/a/ac/%D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%97%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%91%D1%82_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5,_%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B5.jpg
mircea_popescu: sorta the thing that spurred paris hilton's crap, then kardashian's crap etc
benkay: mircea_popescu: why does google work for you and not me
MisterE: Kardashian got famous by being fucked on a reality show iirc?
benkay: photogrammetry, by the way
mircea_popescu: benkay for i am mp, lord of all things ?
mircea_popescu: MisterE but what she was trying to do was a sort of mean girls livetv
MisterE: ahh okj
mircea_popescu: at least that's what i took it for
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: industrial machine vision systems live and die by 'programmetry'
asciilifeform: e.g. pcb inspection
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asciilifeform: http://apikabu.ru/img_n/2012-08_6/b6n.jpg
benkay: wow where'd you find that, asciilifeform ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i don't see what the fdl brouhaha is all about
mircea_popescu: the dude did it for over a decade
asciilifeform: benkay: places
mircea_popescu: how the fuck long is he supposed to stick with the shtick ?
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asciilifeform: http://anticache.img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80-%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%83-%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80-%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%8C-675117.jpeg
asciilifeform: caption: 'girls, calm down'
MisterE: hehe
asciilifeform: http://im6.asset.yvimg.kz/userimages/theyakov/EfsEXtM8qloHc0pny8ekEwIPTI4Y6y.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://24.media.tumblr.com/776e3462fa6e556e23838bba79048a73/tumblr_mkgxfbIZZa1rif94fo2_500.jpg
benkay: just so you know old guys i <3 you and all your wisdom: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117088/silicons-valleys-brutal-ageism
benkay: “Really, you got this funded?” Stamos asked. Yes, said the kid. “But it obviously didn’t work out,” Stamos replied. Right, said the kid. At which point Stamos began to piece together what must’ve happened. “You collected the data and realized a lot of the data out there is horrible, and you couldn’t make sense of it,” he said. The kid allowed that this was true. “You probably talked to CVS—everyone talks to CVS. And they tho
benkay: the best thing since sliced cheese, but they were never willing to buy it.” Again the kid said yes. “Then you realized that anything you’re doing that has to be regulated, like making medical recommendations, requires FDA approval.” By now the kid was demanding to know how Stamos had guessed all of this. “You see these gray hairs?” he said. “It’s the classic model everyone goes through. I know it from Phase Forward.”
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i think i wrote this somewhere.
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asciilifeform: ;;google knowing which screw
gribble: Knowing which screw to turn - Calvin Correli: <http://calvincorreli.com/2007/05/27/knowing-which-screw-to-turn/>; Nail vs. Screw vs. Bolt: Knowing The Right Hardware To Use : Home ...: <http://www.diynetwork.com/home-improvement/nail-vs-screw-vs-bolt-knowing-the-right-hardware-to-use/pictures/index.html>; The Screw - SlideShare: <http://www.slideshare.net/lotharm/the-screw>
moiety: sorry went on a hot croissant/coffee mission
moiety: asciilifeform: ok ok fair point, best news reader in russia
mircea_popescu: that first post is incredibly retarded.
asciilifeform: no idea what's in there
mircea_popescu: "i dunno man, i justr google here"
asciilifeform: ought to be, the ancient legend of 'penny - turn screw, $maxint - 0.01 - which screw'
mircea_popescu: it is yea
mircea_popescu: some fucktarded "life coach" or w/e shits all over it.
asciilifeform: ;;yandex foobar
gribble: Error: "yandex" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: phuck
asciilifeform: wtf is a life coach
mircea_popescu: some derp that's trying to make a living out of conferences, and looking for sponsors
benkay: 'statistics' aside, "Jones found that people in their thirties contributed about 40 percent of the innovations, and those in their forties about 30 percent. People over 50 were responsible for 14 percent, the same share as the twentysomethings. Those under the age of 19 were responsible for exactly nothing."
mircea_popescu: but under survival pressure has curtailed the conference to just two people
mircea_popescu: and would like you to pick up the tab.
benkay: i guess buterin just misses the cutoff.
mircea_popescu: benkay yeah because "innovations" are now commodified, like brent
benkay: mhm
benkay: you just sink wells randomly, right?
mircea_popescu: author should just make some hamburger already.
benkay: couldn't possibly predict where the sweet stuff is.
asciilifeform: re: commoditized 'innovation' - here's a snipped from me turdbox. translation of a page in pelevin's epic 'snuff' (the one with s/ukraine/orkaine, 'orcs', etc) ☟︎
asciilifeform: - How come they use the word "sommelier"? - he asked yet another stupid question, - So many different professions, but only one word...
asciilifeform: - That's what they used to call servants who fetched wine. They had big lists of wines, from which gentlemen could choose. And later, this is what they started to call people who dealt in what was once considered creativity.
asciilifeform: - Why?
asciilifeform: - People had already devised all necessary things. Once, long ago, mankind developed in leaps and bounds - not only did the objects around us change constantly, but so did the words we used. In those days there were a great many names for a creative person - engineer, poet, scholar. And all of them constantly invented new things. But that was mankind's childhood. And then it reached maturity. Creativity did no
asciilifeform: t vanish - but it was reduced to choosing from that which had already been created. Figuratively speaking, we no longer grow grapes. We send for a bottle from the cellar. People who carry out this task, we call "sommeliers."
BingoBoingo: ;;ud derp
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=derp | A simple, undefined reply when an ignorant comment or action is made. Brought to life in the South Park series, when Mr. Derp made a guest apperanc...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: derp
BingoBoingo: ;;ud herp
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herp | Herp. The prefix of "derp". Usually used when saying something foolish. Person 1 : Does anybody know why I can't get my TV to turn on? Person 2: Try plugging ...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: herp
moiety: my guess i began with someone trying to tell a noob they were more skilled/important than they actually were asciilifeform
moiety: it*
asciilifeform: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.N.U.F.F.
ozbot: S.N.U.F.F. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: moiety probably in a quest to get in her panties.
mircea_popescu: which probably worked, which is why it got perpetuated.
mircea_popescu: I BLAME WOMEN!
asciilifeform: nitpick with pediwikia - the 'batman' in the epic is not wearing a 'batman' costume. he's a bloke who smashes heads with a baseball bat. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: (can you imagine the word 'batman' being remembered as something else?)
moiety: baby daddy is so cool, he's a sommelier you know
mircea_popescu: sooo... aaron spelling is just re-doing the same shit over and over
VanCleef: anyone heard an update from sfi?
mircea_popescu: this baby daddy thing looks exactly like bh20910 or w/e it was
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re: 'derp' - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#507103 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'd never forget Birthday logs
asciilifeform: i can't help but think of the 'derp' from that tale, when i see the word, because - believe it or not - i heard it there before elsewhere.
asciilifeform: whereas 'herp' inescapably conjures up herpetaria. or perhaps herpes.
VanCleef: IRS Declares Bitcoin Is Property and Must Be Taxed As Such.....?
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moiety: this conversation prompted me to check on our site. my manul doesn't look happy with the cat next to him http://i.imgur.com/k5AUNwZ.png
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moiety: VanCleef: question is, did anyone listen to irs?
BingoBoingo: I forgot how long the Vircurex Dossier was, so in the interim enjoy: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/25/the-curious-case-of-vircurex-part-one-try-to-imagine-the-instrumental-theme-for-the-terminator-playing-in-your-head-as-you-read/
VanCleef: not sure moiety but this is pretty bad
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Derpasaurii as a construction necessitation clarifying relations between herp and derp
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ended up misreading as 'Depresaurii'
asciilifeform: depressed/deprecated megafauna
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, that may be usefull as I turn my notes into a post.
BingoBoingo: They are one of the first ventures in this space I was a customer of
BingoBoingo: I depreciated them from my doings when after hack #1 they revealed they made an exchange on RoR
asciilifeform: speaking of terminology, is there a... 'suburban dictionary' ? 'rural dictionary' ?
BingoBoingo: At that point I imagine they fragment too much
asciilifeform: ;;ud RoR
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ROR | ROR. Abbreviated form of "Raughing out Roud". ROR! I rike fried wice. by www. severedband.com July 13, 2003. 414 73. Mugs & shirts Buy “ROR” mugs & shirts  ...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: ROR
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo much better title :p
BingoBoingo: Thanks mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: I thought suggesting a 13/16 time signature for a reading cadence at the start might get the gravity of the reading going
BingoBoingo: Publishing the quote untitled with simply notes 1 and 2 was also something I weighed
KRS-One: .bai
KRS-One: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2r52o8tqD1qhi11io1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: I have so many vircurex notes
BingoBoingo: If anyone just wants to ask questions and scoop a part of this, I'd be cool with that
nubbins`: i used to live with a sommelier
nubbins`: he sure did know how to recommend the shit out of wine
[\]: mircea_popescu: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1604971_10153660262365058_918624375_n.jpg
BingoBoingo: My favorite Grape product has always been Egri Bikaver
nubbins`: so gravity was ok but i didn't realize hot pants were standard issue for female astronauts
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: So you didn't solve my md4 puzzle yet?
nubbins`: didn't even try :D
BingoBoingo: Well the answer isn't this what-if.xkcd.com/89/
BingoBoingo: It may have been a hosted online stream of skyfall though
nubbins`: tungsten intoxication, imagine
MisterE: nubbins`: what was the last movie you watched?
nubbins`: gravity
MisterE: you were telling someone their recommendation better be good...
MisterE: the name seened interesting
nubbins`: ah
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Seriously though, Craig is prolly the best Bond since Dalton
nubbins`: matchstick men
MisterE: thanks thats it
nubbins`: it was a piece of shit, turned it off 15min in
MisterE: lol crap
nubbins`: fuckin nicolas cage
VanCleef: craig isterrible
VanCleef: sorry
MisterE: oh fuck I'm not even going to imdb that
MisterE: nick Cage
nubbins`: if there's one thing that 5 men will never agree on, it's who the best bond was
BingoBoingo: VanCleef: Craig is the third best Bond
MisterE: what is his good:bad movie ratio like 1:10
MisterE: ?
nubbins`: 1:oo
VanCleef: robert rodriguez is making a latino james bond film
VanCleef: should be interesting
BingoBoingo: Bonds ranked: Connery, Dalton, Craig, Moore, the rest, Connery
MisterE: best bond was ofc Shawn Connery
VanCleef: i liked dalton and licence to kill tho
MisterE: right moiety ?
BingoBoingo: Except when Connery was the worst
mircea_popescu: [\\\] lol not bad
VanCleef: http://www.indiewire.com/article/robert-rodriguezs-new-el-rey-network-plans-a-latino-james-bond-series
ozbot: Robert Rodriguez's New El Rey Network Plans a 'Latino James Bond' Series | Filmmakers, Film Industry
BingoBoingo: VanCleef: License to kill was prolly the best bond move in the three decades it is in the center of
mircea_popescu: nubbins` where oo stands for oo-aa
VanCleef: yeh i rewatched it the other day, quite good
nubbins`: it was the closest i could get to an infinity symbol without trying
BingoBoingo: VanCleef: You realize such a thing is basically Breaking Bad, but centered on Tuco
MisterE: who was the Bond in the one with Jaws? Moonraker?
VanCleef: not a fan of breaking bad
MisterE: Breaking Bad is top 5 series ever made
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Both of those was Roger Moore
MisterE: probably tied for #2 with Sopranos in my book
MisterE: Roger Moore ok he was great
BingoBoingo: VanCleef: Honestly it would be better from the Salamancas point of view
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Still only the 4th best bond though
MisterE: you have them ranked?
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Very ranked
VanCleef: bingoboingo who do you think would make a good james bond after craig?
BingoBoingo: I dunno if it is time to think after Craig yet.
BingoBoingo: Craig is so solid and I dunno that any active English actors are ready yet.
nubbins`: cage
nubbins` cackles
BingoBoingo: VanCleef: The thing about Craig is LayerCake sold it.
VanCleef: i think Michael Fassbender
BingoBoingo: Fassbender doesn't have a LayerCake though
nubbins`: the idea of the "paleo diet" is interesting, but i can't help be suspicious that it's for fucking idiots
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: It is atkins for idiots
nubbins`: mostly based on the fact that most of the stuff i read about it appears to have been written by fucking idiots
BingoBoingo: Like Diablo-D3
nubbins`: "Now that you’ve been eating like a predator for some time, you are discovering that when you eat like a predator, and play like a predator, you start thinking like a predator. Stupid people aren’t annoyances: they’re profit centers. Fat people are no longer disgusting: they’re delicious."
nubbins`: what the fuck
BingoBoingo: Such idiot, much ketogenic
nubbins`: "ever since i went paleo, i don't find fat people disgusting"
MisterE: how about Jason Straham?
MisterE: is he English?
BingoBoingo: Statham?
BingoBoingo: English enough, but too old to replace craig
MisterE: ah yes I knew I was spelling last name wrong
MisterE: I seem to like many of the movies he's in
BingoBoingo: These roles have narrow time windows
nubbins`: transporter movies sucked
BingoBoingo: craig's replacement will prolly be unknowable until at least two years after he's too old
BingoBoingo: trasnporter one was good
BingoBoingo: The Crank movies were great though
nubbins` groans
nubbins`: not contrived at all
BingoBoingo: Contrived has aesthetic uses though
nubbins`: like when dude banged his wife in the middle of a football field
nubbins`: y'know, for the plot
MisterE: Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels he was good in that
BingoBoingo: Well, yeah
BingoBoingo: That scene was about liberation
nubbins`: not because all the HURR DURR knuckleheads who cummed at that scene in the first movie wanted to cum again
nubbins`: Crank is the kind of movie the roided-out cokehead at the gym would make
BingoBoingo: They can't make it
nubbins`: if they could :D
BingoBoingo: It isn't a problem of lacking the ability to, they lack the humor
joecool: the crank movies were shot on pretty low budget
joecool: if i recall they used off the shelf cameras from best buy
joecool: so yeah prob good have a bunch of gym guys make it
joecool: :)
BingoBoingo: joecool: They did indeed
nubbins`: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21dgu7/how_can_bitcoin_be_taxed_as_property_but/
ozbot: How can Bitcoin be taxed as property, but regulated as money? It's time for a class action lawsuit.
nubbins`: it's time for a where's my ritalin
BingoBoingo: lol
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: If you can throw a baseball in the strikezone at 92+ mph that will cease to be a dilema
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BingoBoingo: Way down the line in my cue of things I need to post about is why Marijuana is the best performance enhancing drug for handegg
VanCleef: another terrible buy from facebook today
BingoBoingo: The handegg-weed argument basically boils down to persistent analgesic effect and appetite stimulant effect
nubbins`: for lots of stuff
nubbins`: i did AP math in high school
nubbins`: this one kid used to get lit up before class
nubbins`: he wrote his calculus exams with a fucking pen
BingoBoingo: I took the GRE plastered
BingoBoingo: Off of Dewars white label scotch
BingoBoingo: Took the ASVAB with a migraine
nubbins`: there was a canadian snowboarded who lost olympic gold after testing + for pot
nubbins`: i say give him the silver as well as the gold
nubbins`: *snowboarder
BingoBoingo: Eh, fuck the Olympics
nubbins`: on that, we can agree
joecool: nubbins`: he got it back and now runs a very successful pot chain, ross' gold
nubbins`: ha
joecool: (srsly)
joecool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Rebagliati <
ozbot: Ross Rebagliati - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BingoBoingo: On the ASVAB I did the multiple choice thing well enough to qualify for any enlisted job training in the US DoD, but failed the MEPs psych screening
BingoBoingo: I was manic as hell that weekend
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VanCleef: dealing with cash seems alot easier than complying with these new bitcoin irs rules
BingoBoingo: Not really
BingoBoingo: Just convert between the two more selectively
BingoBoingo: The only thing the new IRS rules really hurt is Gyft's mode of operation
BingoBoingo: Where you convert at astoundingly high frequency
BingoBoingo: VanCleef: Were you the NYDFS VanCleef
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BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530306.0
ozbot: VIRCUREX IS RUNNING WITH NEGATIVE NAV: BEWARE EVERYBODY
cazalla: supernodes is back - https://twitter.com/balajis loves to repeat the term
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I really just want one of these SV types to kiss my glans and say, "I'm sorry"
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/448693246160404481#
ozbot: Twitter / BBoingo: @DodgersNation @cfarivar Would ...
MisterE: wow, close call: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg9PWSHL4Vg&feature=youtu.be
MisterE: wow, close call: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg9PWSHL4Vg
MisterE: ozbot dont do YT eh
cazalla: wow, 2 minutes and it's gone
MisterE: yea amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
MisterE: construction fires are some of the scariest
MisterE: tons of fail by the FD there too, painfully obvious they were out of practice and coms were non-existant
chetty: http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/03/26/bitcoin-mtgox-idINDEEA2P03C20140326
ozbot: Mt. Gox says working with Tokyo police on investigation
MisterE: I think people will get some value back out of Gox once they unravel the mess
MisterE: seems like there is some there
BingoBoingo: Differences between the crazy and the merely ignorant, the crazy possess an enviable ability for introspection http://www.crazymeds.us/CrazyTalk/index.php/topic/25093-how-can-i-invent-a-new-disorder/#entry158059
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07 = 0.42 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.049 = 0.392 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;; later someone remind me that tonight I started a great post about the quartz revolution and the swiss watch industry
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "someone" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
benkay: ;;later tell BingoBoingo tonight you started a post about something
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: h/t
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell benkay like any good research paper organizing the rest of it is the challenge
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62899771 = 1.887 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.048 = 0.144 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.04899999 = 0.441 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0530005 = 0.106 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.10144642 = 0.2029 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.10144642 = 0.4058 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.62699805 = 4.389 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.62931987 = 8.1812 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62988969 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.6298897 = 5.669 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 529 @ 0.0027771 = 1.4691 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0476 = 0.1428 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.04670999 = 0.9342 BTC [-] {8}
moiety: ;; later tell MisterE nah, the original James Bond to me is Roger Moore; modern Bond Pierce Brosnan/Daniel Craig equally. I can't take Sean Connery seriously after the film with the flying penises, not to mention his ever exaggerated accent :P
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: ;; later tell BingoBoingo something about watches. also i'm unsure if i fell asleep or fainted after reading vicurex's distribution plan :s
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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jurov: wuuuuuuut 1000 lines? guys and gals you outdid yourself
jurov: *yourselves
jurov: what about a bet "#bitcoin-assets daily log to have > 5000 lines any day"
jurov: to hedge my inability to keep up
moiety: jurov: there was movie suggestions going on XD
VanCleef: i like how fb is just throwing money away
VanCleef: they're getting desperate
HeySteve: you talking Oculus Rift, VanCleef?
HeySteve: not sure what FB would want with VR headset but doubtless something sinister
cazalla: gotta keep up with google glass
VanCleef: yeh steve
VanCleef: they're making the matrix fo realz with extra ads
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07102 = 0.3551 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.00263502 = 0.137 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15317 @ 0.00095264 = 14.5916 BTC [+]
cazalla: you will need to login to facebook before logging into the matrix
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.00532521 = 0.1331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00095088 = 17.2109 BTC [-]
dub: ;;later tell asciilifeform remember: Your brain is LIQUEFYING from hanging out with RETARDS. Your PRINCIPLES are liquefying!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: nubbins`: the drive asks too much juice, use other or a powered hub
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00094844 = 19.1585 BTC [-] {2}
Mats_cd03: hi cuties
only: hey love <3
Neil: Don't really want to restart the convo of 24hrs ago, but I'll just point out that our friend http://bitbet.us/stats/16tAoe9PWgyncvCRxjtisPiNy9Pbcrqsgf/ has done simultaneous bets on both sides of several bets. *Every* 2-way bet that has resolved so far has been a loss for him, often substantially so.
jurov: needs bigger sample, one lucky bet could get him into the blue
jurov: or black? whatever
jurov: and BingoBoingo, don't forget to feature >1y old vircurex screenshot from archive
jurov: tables on top of each other and everything.. it was minimalistic ugliness unsurpassed since
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05491999 = 0.2746 BTC [-] {3}
Neil: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/2c5b2be64d84c73c2a52ccbbe312b2ab/tumblr_my1p1nQKGZ1t0j8ebo1_1280.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.10144642 = 0.2029 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.04540624 = 0.7265 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.045 = 0.18 BTC [-]
chetty: Neil:http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/betting-bitbet-both-ways/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07299489 = 0.292 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07299689 = 0.365 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07299789 = 0.365 BTC [+]
chetty: http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/03/25/Cops-Man-Hit-Girlfriend-With-Anger-Management-Book
ozbot: Cops: Man Hit Girlfriend With Anger Management Book
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04739966 = 0.1422 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00095005 = 7.5054 BTC [+] {2}
Mats_cd03: is anyone else tired of this 'big data' tripe being parroted
Mats_cd03: i just talked to an "intelligence professional" that wants to study "data sciences and analytics" through a "masters in (applied sciences) big data"
Mats_cd03: im about to die of buzzword poisoning
Mats_cd03: universities should just offer 'ripping off government acquisitions managers' as a degree and be done with it
cedivad: Mats_cd03: lol; +1
blackwhite: morning gents
mircea_popescu: ello
blackwhite: so this is unrelated to bitcoin but might still be of interest. I am doing a contextual note taking app for osx. I have an alpha version and is looking for a few people to test it. The look of it is like this http://grab.by/vs1G
blackwhite: and I would love some none designers to test it out
herbijudlestoids: hullo
herbijudlestoids: just thought id pop in
mircea_popescu: hey herbi
herbijudlestoids: hows life?
mircea_popescu: just in time, i'm hatching a scholarship thingee
herbijudlestoids: orly?
mircea_popescu: yarly.
herbijudlestoids: tell me more
herbijudlestoids: ps: i saw your letters to the SEC. lelz.
herbijudlestoids: randomly on coindesk one day saw MPex mentioned, about a week ago ithink
mircea_popescu: you need better sources lolz.
mircea_popescu: anyway, prolly next article.
herbijudlestoids: anyway i just wanted to pop in and check that youre all alive and well
herbijudlestoids: <3
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TomServo: mircea_popescu: when you laying that egg?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, it's one of those
mircea_popescu: floating in my head doesn't want to come out
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-have-fun-as-an-intelligent-person/#comment-98711 << today i learned someone's been actually doing something pretty close to the whole google-bitbet thing
ozbot: How to have fun as an intelligent person pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/smvuacK.png
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Mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: what was your MOS
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mircea_popescu: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/08/Obama-Administration-s-Operation-Choke-Point-On-Mission-to-Destroy-Key-Sectors-of-Private-Lending-Industry
ozbot: Obama's 'Operation Choke Point' Seeks to Destroy Sectors of Private Lending Industry
mircea_popescu: " 'Operation Choke Point,' which is designed to destroy three sectors of the private lending industry: third party payment processors ("TPPPs"), payday lenders, and online lenders. ". sez breitbart.
Mats_cd03: i disagree with the belief that payday lenders are toxic
Mats_cd03: the fact that banks suck so much is precisely why consumers have fled to their services
Mats_cd03: ^ away rather
mircea_popescu: what's toxic is, as always, plastic.
mircea_popescu: the fact that they enforce it on the "Well to do" govt employees makes it very expensive for actual workers to gateway to the cash ecpnomy they use
mircea_popescu: basically they're forcing people to be paid in lala land whether they live in lalaland or the actual tide economy
Mats_cd03: its simpler than that
Mats_cd03: http://www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2013/09/why-poor-choose-go-without-bank-accounts/6783
ozbot: The Real Reason the Poor Go Without Bank Accounts - Lisa J. Servon - The Atlantic Cities
Mats_cd03: less friction seems to be the simplest way to describe it
mircea_popescu: yup. is pretty much what i meant.
chetty: the organization plays a critical role in influencing the behavior of banks and financial institutions around the country
Mats_cd03: the above article should be required reading for self titled bitcoin enthusiasts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.05562636 = 0.6119 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: we probably should make a list of required reading
mircea_popescu: lampelina hey, you considering a "must read these" page ?
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chetty: Mats_cd03, that was a great article, thanks much
Mats_cd03: glad you liked it chetty
lampelina: mircea_popescu, what do you mean with that
lampelina: a faq or similar?
mircea_popescu: no, like a recomended reading list.
ThickAsThieves: maybe it ends up a curriculum
ThickAsThieves: again now http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/26/oculus-shares-up-152-but-its-not-that-oculus/?mod=WSJBlog
mircea_popescu: Oculus VisionTech Inc.OVTZ +87.50%,
lampelina: will think about it when I come to this
mircea_popescu: and then we bitch about bitcoiners being clueless.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves we definitely need a curriculum, currently it's "stfu and read", but the implied "read what ?!" is never really addressed.
ThickAsThieves: yeah, "go read the logs and the forum" isn't quite realistic anymore
mircea_popescu: making a proper reading list is definitely something someone with a background in education could halp with
ThickAsThieves: it's a fucking oddysey by now
mircea_popescu: the logs are > 50mb on my disk. who can read that ?
mircea_popescu: and the forums i wouldn't advise anyone to read, unless they had mastered both the topic and internet stuff.
ThickAsThieves: i feel like i should be able to get a job just mased on all the readin ive done the past year
mircea_popescu: in principle you should, yes.
ThickAsThieves: based*
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure eventually people will, just this bs "o we're the sec/jpm/herpdiderp, we don't need no stikinin' obedience to bitcoin" will have to be either crushed or dissolved first.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00270082 = 0.2593 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: what did that thing ipo at, was it 25 ? or 30 something ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.0027008 = 0.6131 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: both i guess
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> making a proper reading list is definitely something someone with a background in education could halp with < yes someone give her a hand so we dont end up with links to facebook :p
ThickAsThieves: xbond round was 25, full offering was 30
mircea_popescu: ic
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla kinda what im tryin for :)
mircea_popescu: "If your employer offers you insurance that doesn’t provide free ella, or anything else on the list of “preventive services”—as defined by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and ultimately by Obama—then it’s subject to a fine of $36,500 a year. But if your employer doesn’t offer you insurance at all, it’s subject to a fine of $2,000 a year. "
mircea_popescu: the usg wrote the book on perverse incentives, srsly.
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Marriage_Leopold_of_Austria_Eleonore_of_Pfalz_Neuburg.jpg << cocksucking was A LOT more expensive in 1676.
kakobrekla: <ThickAsThieves> i feel like i should be able to get a job just mased on all the readin ive done the past year < isnt it the point that you end up not having 'a job'
asciilifeform: somebody explain the mindfuck from earlier. the 'check cashing shop' thing isn't a straight scam?
ThickAsThieves: depends how you define job kako
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ThickAsThieves: i define it as something productive, worth doing, that provides mutual benefit to me and at least one other party
kakobrekla: i thought it was an acronym for just over broke
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 118 @ 0.01603934 = 1.8926 BTC [-] {7}
kakobrekla: <ThickAsThieves> i define it as something productive, worth doing, that provides mutual benefit to me and at least one other party < you dont need a biz or a job or anything for that
kakobrekla: go pick up trash
mircea_popescu: about 200mn of us citizens live in the fictitious world of bezzle. they never use cash for anything. about 50mn us citizens live in the real economy, they mostly use tide for currency, but at the fringe there's this exchange of people who work for the fictitious economy,
asciilifeform: the way it was explained to me, by one wretch, is that many folks who refuse to use ordinary banks do so because they were hounded by creditors (ordinary ones, and government alimony collectors)
mircea_popescu: but then try to obtain their wages in actual cash
mircea_popescu: nope. it's mostly because they are not part of that world.
mircea_popescu: like you know, some people don't wear dockers, because they're not social justice warriors, the women they fuck don't even know what dockers are, etc.
asciilifeform: how does using paper benjamins release you from bezzle?
mircea_popescu: it's not that it releases you from it,
mircea_popescu: it's just that it makes no sense for you to keep virtual benjamins if you do nothing in the bezzle.
mircea_popescu: by now it's pretty much two different currencies.
mircea_popescu: the 401k-dollar and the cocaine-stained-dollar,
mircea_popescu: different entirely.
asciilifeform: a little hard to buy a reel of 0805 resistors with paper hundies
mircea_popescu: but that guy does not buy a reel of resistors.
ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla> <ThickAsThieves> i define it as something productive, worth doing, that provides mutual benefit to me and at least one other party < you dont need a biz or a job or anything for that /// only in the broad sense, i wouldnt personally find that "worth doing" in my own values of what my time is worth
mircea_popescu: a little hard to buy what he buys with wot rating.
ThickAsThieves: not saying i'm "above" picking up trash, i have at times, just that it's not the right fit, nor taking advantage of any of my experience
ThickAsThieves: i guess i am saying i'me above it, i dunno
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: that escalated quickly.
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: i've laid cable, for instance, to eat.
ThickAsThieves: well, sure, gotta do what you gotta do
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kakobrekla: i did a lot of stuff to eat
ThickAsThieves: let's not veer over a cliff here, this started mostly by pointing out that anyone who's well read in this space probably has something valuable to offer
kakobrekla: never had a job in my view.
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if you're hard up for work, become a reverse engineer
ThickAsThieves: i'm not hard up for work
asciilifeform: people have serious problems hiring any
ThickAsThieves: i am however having trouble choosing work
mircea_popescu: i guess im the only privileged asshole here, i never did anything to eat.
mike_c: i cooked and disposed of laboratory trash to pay for school. worst smell of my life.
kakobrekla: >Goat's posts are disappearing.. by whom?
kakobrekla: >>Probably deleted by himself because his user ID does not appear in the modlog (Ctrl + F "44233" without quotation marks). All deleted posts are still visible on bitcointa.lk though (this thread is 6 pages longer).
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 401k-dollar and the cocaine-stained-dollar << nobody forces people to jump in chumpatron
kakobrekla: double lel.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but yes they do. suppose you work for company x.
mircea_popescu: you can't instruct them to pay you in cash.
asciilifeform: in u.s. you can usually become 'contractor' and get your pay in whole, then you are required to pay the tax collectors manually
mircea_popescu: no, you can't.
mircea_popescu: if you become a contractor you will be paid by check
mircea_popescu: and that will be deposited in your bank account
mircea_popescu: and you can't take the cash out.
mircea_popescu: on one hand because you are legally required to keep your money in the bank
mircea_popescu: on the other hand because you're not rlegally allowed to make withdrawals.
ThickAsThieves: i missed something, why can't someone withdraw their money?
asciilifeform: since when? every bank i ever used let you take it out. granted, if you take more than $xxxx in one day, the anti-terrorism folks get a phone call.
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: I was unwaiverably ineligible, because crazy
benkay: another cuh-ray-zee aspect of the bezzle is the plastic rewards thing that makes cash more expensive.
chetty: well you can withdraw, but its not so easy etc.
ThickAsThieves: yes the $xxxx thing is a real throttle
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so then what part of "not allowed" don't you follow ?
mircea_popescu: you're allowed except you're not and if you do we fuck you up ?
mircea_popescu: let's run some scenarios. i am a contractor, working for you. you write me a check for 100k.
mircea_popescu: i go to bank, order them to pay me 100k.
mircea_popescu: they tell me they can't.
mircea_popescu: problem solved.
mircea_popescu: i order them to pay me 10k.
mircea_popescu: they tell me they can;t.
mircea_popescu: problem also solved.
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mircea_popescu: they then proceed me to tell me that they can pay some, but can't tell me how much.
ThickAsThieves: you could do 9k per day without much fuss
mircea_popescu: if i hire someone to go take money out every day for a year, 300 bucks at a time,
mircea_popescu: and keep it at home, i'll be in violation of the "corps must keep their funds i na bank" rule.
mircea_popescu: in any case any qty of cash will be confiscated by govt agents on sight
mircea_popescu: and on it goes.
asciilifeform: that last part, is, afaik, true
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the fuss will be that on the third time yo udo it your house will be confiscated,
asciilifeform: but there isn't an official 'humans must keep cash in a bank' rule atm.
ThickAsThieves: hmm
mircea_popescu: pending you prove that you have a "legitimate reason" and in any case you face prosecution under the "trying to avoid prosecution for using your own money" laws.
asciilifeform: you are theoretically welcome to keep your pay in gold, or cement, so long as the tax was paid
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, but contractors aren't physical persons, they're legal persons, and that rule does exist.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform very theoretically. in the sense you're theoretically welcome to shoot the president.
mircea_popescu: so no, participation in the us chumpatron is voluntary in the sense participation in the communist party was voluntary.
asciilifeform: ok in that sense it is very true
jborkl: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=534620.0
ozbot: Selling Sperm
jborkl: heh
mircea_popescu: lol. someone should point out to the sperm seller the precedent re paying for child support.
asciilifeform: one can still decide on the degree to which to play the chumpatron. no one is forced to buy 401k, yet.
mircea_popescu: yes, you are.
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mircea_popescu: ever worked in an office asciilifeform ?
ThickAsThieves: it's shoved down your throat at least
asciilifeform: sure
mircea_popescu: suppose you work as an accountant, with six others.
mircea_popescu: suppose you're the only one who doesn't.
ThickAsThieves: so much so that your family advocates it endlessly too
mircea_popescu: suppose the yearly review mentions this point.
mircea_popescu: suppose someone has to be let go.
benkay: "but you're giving up free money!"
asciilifeform: if it's a corp that 'matches' 401k, and avaricious boss, he ought to fire the more expensive fellow (the one who opts in) ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the one who opts out is more expensive to him.
mircea_popescu: the matching gives him a tax break.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 675 @ 0.00048893 = 0.33 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: if he plans his budget, and you upset the planning,
mircea_popescu: you may actually force him over a threshold, with results so far out of proportion he might as well just shoot you and bury you in hudson river.
benkay: thereby collecting the insurance policy he took out on you.
asciilifeform: not that this situation is impossible - but most large co.s have a third party run their chumpatronics
mircea_popescu: so ?
asciilifeform: so the fellow who is to fire you may not even know if you use 401k
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mircea_popescu: third parties can also shoot you and bury you in the river.
mircea_popescu: hahaha.
mircea_popescu: what are you, from the 60s ?
mircea_popescu: they have like computers now and shit.
asciilifeform: once again, i can't say that this scenario is impossible. just that it includes an extraordinary level of 'personal attention' from bureaucrats who would normally rather play tetris
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00013107 = 0.1311 BTC [-] {4}
asciilifeform: actually i can readily believe that exactly this would happen to, say, an executive salaried $1M
asciilifeform: if he were to demand his pay in something like money (even banked, electronic money, with all applicable tax paid) he might 'begin to have problems.'
VanCleef: anyone know goats address i'd like to send him a bucket of sperm
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thestringpuller: !last m s.mpoe
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00094739 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;google kanye power
gribble: Kanye West - POWER - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L53gjP-TtGE>; Kanye West - POWER [FULL ORIGINAL HQ SONG] - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouwCWDbBskU>; Kanye West – Power Lyrics | Rap Genius: <http://rapgenius.com/Kanye-west-power-lyrics>
VanCleef: oh dear
artifexd: <mircea_popescu> suppose someone has to be let go. << Fire the person that sucks at their job
benkay: note the damoclean sword in that video, thestringpuller ?
BingoBoingo: !last S.POWER
assbot: I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
VanCleef: youknow whats funny about kanyewest his mom died from plastic surgery that he paid for lol
VanCleef: what a douche
benkay: comedy is when the bad guy dies
benkay: tragedy is when everyone dies
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours, 41 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <smickles> wtf bet on the price rising rather than buying more or buying an option (or similar)
thestringpuller: XD enjoi your retirement old friend
benkay: Neil: why not reignite the discussion?
mircea_popescu: artifexd i suppose that's the one thing that has never happened yet.
benkay: Neil: you neglected to mention that his odds are much longer than the house odds
benkay: and you also didn't tabulate and chart your claim, but that's neither here nor there.
VanCleef: how is candy crush worth 500 million its just an app
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.04501 = 0.3151 BTC [-] {2}
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, remember the tards from http://trilema.com/2014/robert-keith-cristopher-jr-matt-sartain-kristian-thomson-cryptorush-much-comedy-lulzgoldmine/ ?
mircea_popescu: yeah
Apocalyptic: seems they just played the "we got haxxed" part
Apocalyptic: http://pastebin.com/DdDjN72U
ozbot: Cryptorush BC shit (complete) - Pastebin.com
mircea_popescu: awww!
Apocalyptic: much sooner than I expected tbh
VanCleef: dot com bubble 2.0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.32121462 BTC to 4`622 shares, 50221 satoshi per share
Apocalyptic: "[03:43] <Linkandzelda> I built my exchange to work around the daemon's account feature for managing user trades and balances/deposits/withdraws
Apocalyptic: "
Apocalyptic: oh no this is too god
Apocalyptic: *good
Apocalyptic: it's well known that even bitcoin's account are completely buggy and broken
Mats_cd03: if someone hosts the so-called bitcoin educational page, ill help populate it with materials
Apocalyptic: or was until 0.9 anyway, Gavin claims to have fixed it
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 well lampelina will, i gather.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic maybe drop a link to the article ?
mircea_popescu: or what channel is this ?
Apocalyptic: i think it's #cryptorush, i'm not in that channel though
VanCleef: ;google theglobe.com
VanCleef: ;;google theglobe.com
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.07386573 = 7.3866 BTC [+] {8}
Mats_cd03: [03:45] <Linkandzelda> which basically, I dont knpow how, but it gave users too many coins (too many being an extra 21 million in total)
mircea_popescu: i left them a link, should manage on their own.
Mats_cd03: i bet this individual doesnt know the difference between signed and unsigned integers
padishah_emperor: what bitcoin stocks should I put money into ?
benkay: vircurex
mike_c: fyrstikken sounds familiar. what exchange does he run?
padishah_emperor: coinrush
padishah_emperor: ?
benkay: padishah_emperor: basically zero stocks have outperformed holding btc.
benkay: there are some notable exceptions, but they're not popular.
mike_c: oh, derp. he is one of the three amigos from coinrush.
VanCleef: you're better off holding coin
mike_c: er, cryptorush
padishah_emperor: benkay: ok thanks, thought so
mike_c: padishah_emperor: he was kidding. they are insolvent.
mike_c: geez. i am an idiot today. ignore that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6297 @ 0.00094853 = 5.9729 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: benkay orly ?
Mats_cd03: padishah_emperor: mpex.co ?
Mats_cd03: benkay mp is about to brag about mpoe just give it a second
benkay: well with a softball pitch like that why wouldn't he
benkay: if padishah_emperor hasn't found mpoe on his/her own...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.055 = 0.275 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 what is this mpoe you speak of.
padishah_emperor: mircea
padishah_emperor: do you want my money ?
mircea_popescu: notrly.
padishah_emperor: oh
padishah_emperor: mircea any advice on where I _should_ throw my money?
mircea_popescu: mnope. who are you anyway ?
padishah_emperor: just a guy with money
mircea_popescu: well then you should hold on to it and spend a year or so reading.
mircea_popescu: the log is in the topic.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07399999 = 0.148 BTC [+]
padishah_emperor: but time is money, friend
mircea_popescu: exactly. spend your time so you may keep your money.
padishah_emperor: i have lots of money but not much time :(
mircea_popescu: vacation is in order.
BingoBoingo: I hear Transnidstria is a beautiful place
asciilifeform: lol!
mircea_popescu: nah
mircea_popescu: it's a sort of "shity strip of new jerseu"
mircea_popescu: s/u/y
asciilifeform: someone needs to start a 'war vacation' agency
padishah_emperor: my father was from moldova
asciilifeform: basic training for extra cost
padishah_emperor: romanian
VanCleef: buy more time
padishah_emperor: mircea i think whether you like it or not you're getting my money
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.60409765 = 15.1024 BTC [-] {11}
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers_of_Fortune_%28film%29
VanCleef: buy some candrycrush shares
BingoBoingo: "The freedom fighters are poorly-funded, and thus are sourcing money via war tourism, inviting wealthy foreigners to join their ranks for the thrills and experience."
thestringpuller: "if you're getting bitcoin throw it in the air. bitcoin-assets, the hustler's lair."
Mats_cd03: your negro vernacular is lacking, thestringpuller
thestringpuller: COME AT ME BRO
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if this business actually existed, it couldn't rely on 'naturally-occurring' wars.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it would need to set up a reliable one. by shipping clients to both 'sides'
padishah_emperor: honestly guys I made ~680-90k aud on fucking dogecoin
padishah_emperor: so i have less aprreciation for money
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course.
padishah_emperor: and more for absurdist theatre
padishah_emperor: so I'm beyond it...
VanCleef: i believe your honesty
BingoBoingo: padishah_emperor: Maybe choose a side here? http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/
bounce: so now we have a bunch that did their own coind and customer funds went AWOL. and a bunch that used the reference client and customer funds went AWOL. now, digital finance is unforgiving, but I'll say that it's not purely operator error in a hostile environment; looks like the machinery is dangerous too.
asciilifeform: bounce: 'reference client hacked' is 'extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence'
asciilifeform: bounce: not because the thing isn't a turd - it is - but it is then necessary to explain why other people's coins have stayed put.
BingoBoingo: bounce: They used "features" that weren't really implemented
bounce: well, yes, but that's not really the point. the reference client perhaps shouldn't be filled with interfaces that don't work very well.
benkay: talk to the 'core dev team' about that.
BingoBoingo: Well, use version 0.4-0.6
BingoBoingo: With the config change to raise the DB locks
Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/gruuvtastic/the-black-keys-fever The Black Keys single
asciilifeform: reference client perhaps shouldn't be filled with interfaces that don't work << not everything in the kitchen is food. rat poison is not a condiment
bounce: oh, so the core devs are at it deliberately
asciilifeform: from whom is this a secret
VanCleef: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6MeB5uLflo
ozbot: Tulip Mania: The First Bubble [Debt & Doubt - Animation 6] - YouTube
bounce: bit of a problem then that from the outside you can't see just how the exchange's innards pick their condiments
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05500001 = 0.22 BTC [+]
adolf_fishler: wheres nubbins
adolf_fishler: did he watch matchstickmen
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00275 = 0.825 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 199 @ 0.00275 = 0.5473 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: http://buttcoin.org/irs-rules-bitcoin-actually-news
ozbot: IRS rules on Bitcoin; This is actually news - Buttcoin - The P2P crypto-currency for butts. - Buttco
ThickAsThieves: us buttcoin owner in this channel
ThickAsThieves: good stuff
ThickAsThieves: is*?
FabianB: has it been discussed yet why Huobi is paying ppl that were just too foolish to market sell into a too shallow order book?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07051101 = 0.282 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 585.5, Best ask: 586.29, Bid-ask spread: 0.79000, Last trade: 586.29, 24 hour volume: 11784.29834825, 24 hour low: 565.0, 24 hour high: 592.0, 24 hour vwap: 580.322827357
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/03/ubiquitous-comsec.htm << somebody needs a new shannonizer. this one's sputtering.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00278999 = 0.1395 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: potential sequel to your cesar cipher essay:
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/police-convict-chile-drug-trafficker-after-discovering-secret-code
asciilifeform: somehow this is all very reminiscent of folks disenchanted with the american medical establishment switching to snake oils, faith healing
Mats_cd03: benkay: leviathan wakes isnt bad, im ~100 pages through
benkay: i lost several nights of sleep to that book
asciilifeform: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-24/russia-gets-ready-for-life-without-visa-and-mastercard
ozbot: Russia Gets Ready for Life Without Visa and MasterCard - Businessweek
ThickAsThieves: http://pando.com/2014/03/26/oculus-rises-to-a-2b-exit-while-its-kickstarter-backers-are-left-with-cheap-swag/ it's interesting to think how regulation has actually created a situation where investors can be totally removed from any interest in the company they effectively funded
ozbot: Oculus rises to a $2B exit while its Kickstarter backers are left with cheap swag | PandoDaily
ThickAsThieves: oculus gets $2m to create their thing, sells out for $2b
ThickAsThieves: investors get a gizmo
benkay: i thought that was the whole point of kickstarter.
ThickAsThieves: this event puts it into real perspective though
Duffer1: i believe that's more an effect of a consumer mindset rather than a common sense mindset that would naturally want equity instead of swag
ThickAsThieves: sure, all the investors know what they got into
benkay: yeah but fartup equity is usually worth zero anyways
ThickAsThieves: and can only expect their gizmo
benkay: a toss up as to which is better value: likely worthless paper vs. entertaining gizmo
benkay: either way you get the fartup feels
ThickAsThieves: but if Oculos were allowed to actually crowdfund for equity investors, the odds are thats what they would have done instead
ThickAsThieves: Oculus*
VanCleef: with the money that oculoss made with fb they hsould pay back the kickstarter peeps
Duffer1: aren't they allowed already through a DPO?
ThickAsThieves: VanCleef, while that would be "nice" i see no reason they should
VanCleef: but yeh anyway another terrible buy from fb
ThickAsThieves: possibly
pankkake: them being bought by facebook make them unlikely to deliver the advertised product
ThickAsThieves: i agree that Facebook does not seem agile anough to imitate what google does
Duffer1: or deliver it on Facebook's terms
ThickAsThieves: enough&
ThickAsThieves: but it is still the only hope they have to survive
ThickAsThieves: to branch out
Duffer1: also the sequels to Leviathan Wakes were pretty disappointing imo
ThickAsThieves: i dont see how socilmedia-izing the Rift will help
ThickAsThieves: i'm typing like a champ today...
Duffer1: maybe they want to offer a vr platform for minigame devs?
VanCleef: so on kickstarter are you allowed to sell equity into yourprivate company or nah?
Duffer1: nope
Duffer1: er not that i'm aware of
ThickAsThieves: there are new laws on the table in the JOBS act I believe
ThickAsThieves: to allow for such
ThickAsThieves: but they are tabled or something
VanCleef: mmmk
VanCleef: that would be cool
VanCleef: id probably invest in things on kickstarter
VanCleef: if that were da case
ThickAsThieves: Candy Crush IPO opens at 10% under offer price
Duffer1: hehe
VanCleef: yeh that candy crush ipo is a joke
VanCleef: dotcom bubble 2.0
Diablo-D3: you know whats funny?
Diablo-D3: no one in here
Diablo-D3: can actually afford to do business with me
ThickAsThieves: ...
ThickAsThieves: you can say that again
ThickAsThieves: !
VanCleef: i think these are signs that market is topping and everything over valued bubbles etc and could see a decent crash this year
ThickAsThieves: hard to say
ThickAsThieves: inflation fucks up valuations for stocks
VanCleef: we're definitely in a bailout bubble atm
Mats_cd03: wouldnt be the first time someone said that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol the saga of bad crypto never ends does it.
mircea_popescu: FabianB nope. link ?
FabianB: mircea_popescu: http://www.coindesk.com/rumours-panic-ddos-attack-huobis-wild-week/
mircea_popescu: heh
VanCleef: http://youtu.be/4ECi6WJpbzE?t=18m39s
ozbot: Overdose: The Next Financial Crisis - YouTube
FabianB: "Huobi agreed to make its customers whole again at 70 RMB ($11.29) per LTC for anyone who sold below that level."
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves somehow this discussion is a strange rehash of the older "platinum records / musical talent" thing.
mircea_popescu: a large part of the entire "start-up success" fantasy by now is specifically NOT having any sort of technical merit or actual value
mircea_popescu: much like a singer won't win if they're good. they must suck to win, in order to "represent" the idiots watching at home.
FabianB: just wondered whether i got something wrong or if they really pay their stupidest users
mircea_popescu: FabianB i would suppose they're taking the opposite tack to the now-famous "fuck you and read" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.0541 = 0.3787 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: plenty of people trying to make a career out of doing the wrong thing.
FabianB: seems like
ThickAsThieves: i'm having trouble understanding this huobi thing
ThickAsThieves: how did people get negative balances? why are they refunding people in cash?
ThickAsThieves: etc
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` maybe tshirts with "A loser is You!"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves because it's broken ? i dunno, just my guess.
VanCleef: i blame Mark Karpelass
FabianB: ThickAsThieves: looks like you can margin trade on huobi
ThickAsThieves: ah
ThickAsThieves: most retarded headline of the week: Poll: 48% of Americans understand bitcoin but most still prefer gold - See more at: http://www.pfhub.com/poll-americans-distrust-bitcoin-and-prefer-gold-457/#sthash.yidxzuVA.dpuf
ThickAsThieves: 48% of americans surely do not own gold
ThickAsThieves: surely dont understand bitcoin either
mircea_popescu: "please believe us when we say the shit we sell you is worth buying"
mircea_popescu: "we have a poll to prove it"
ThickAsThieves: lol, in the recommended links on the same page:
ThickAsThieves: Poll: 76% of Americans never heard of bitcoin, 79% would never own one
benkay: 99% will never own one.
benkay: "We! Are! The 99%!"
ThickAsThieves: the numbers, they have a mind of their own!
ThickAsThieves: socially transmitted diseases
VanCleef: Putin approval rating is higher in American than Obama
ThickAsThieves: obama better hit the gym
asciilifeform: VanCleef: afaik this has been the case for years.
asciilifeform: VanCleef: same poll as 'bedbugs have higher approval rating than senate,' etc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00282999 = 0.1981 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "Congress to consider banning online gambling"
ThickAsThieves: when will they ban Twitter?
VanCleef: america should just ban the internet
mircea_popescu: lol. 75% of all statistics are made up
VanCleef: fact: a woman in Afganistan has more freedoms than a male in America.
dhenson: fact: soon, China will be the #1 english speaking country in the world.
Mats_cd03: thats dubious, have you ever interacted with chinese speakers that learned ESL?
Mats_cd03: their ESL programs are horrible
Mats_cd03: english speaking is a reach
adolf_fishler: fact: a woman in Afganistan has more freedoms than a male in America.
adolf_fishler: i believe that one
dhenson: They would only need 1 in 3 to speak english. With all of the american tv programming, I could believe it.
adolf_fishler: its ok for your wife to beat u in america
adolf_fishler: ur just supposed to let her. its the law.
asciilifeform: in antarctica, even more freedom.
Mats_cd03: lol 'only'
dhenson: A friend of mine's wife was arrested for assault, so not sure that's known by my local police if true.
adolf_fishler: what did she assault
dhenson: Of course, she did run over him with the car.
dhenson: (back tire)
adolf_fishler: o
adolf_fishler: yeah
adolf_fishler: thats attempted murder
adolf_fishler: slightly more aggressive than assault
dhenson: Nah, she was driving away and bumped the car into him and ran over his foot. just assault
adolf_fishler: it wasnt intentional ?
dhenson: Bumping into him was, she claimed running over his foot wasn't. Not sure what she thought was going to happen.
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: well, depends what your standards for "speaking english" are.
mircea_popescu: most us citizens don't speak english worth a crap.
asciilifeform: 'english as she is spoke'
asciilifeform: ;;google english as she is spoke
gribble: English As She Is Spoke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_As_She_Is_Spoke>; English as she is spoke by Pedro Carolino and José da Fonseca ...: <http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/30411>; English As She Is Spoke vs. Babelfish!: <http://www.zompist.com/spoke.html>
dhenson: At what point is it going to stop being called 'English'? Referring to the divergant language in parts of the US (south especially).
dhenson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik
ozbot: Southpark - They Took Our Job - YouTube
mircea_popescu: at no point.
asciilifeform: well, in afghanistan, a hill tribe 10km from another such may or may not understand the speech. but to us, they both speak pashto
asciilifeform: standardized language is a 'luxury of civilization', like your mains socket
asciilifeform: it doesn't happen automagically.
ThickAsThieves: it's already split, English (American)
ThickAsThieves: in most software at leats
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: software people writing 'spell checker' mostly understand this to mean just the websterian reform, where they snipped the 'u' from 'colour', etc.
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: and turned s to z in a bunch of continuous forms
ThickAsThieves: and change s to z
ThickAsThieves: bleh
mircea_popescu: yay i got one
asciilifeform: 'advertize'
mircea_popescu: martinizing and advertizing
the20year3: which is how it should be
mircea_popescu: the contributions of the us to englidsh
ThickAsThieves: z sounds more like s than s does!
asciilifeform: relevant: http://unspell.blogspot.com
asciilifeform: (herr orlov's crackpot crusade)
the20year3: utilization of the letter so it doesn't become obsolete
ThickAsThieves: it'll always have zebra!
ThickAsThieves: may one day it overcomes x too
ThickAsThieves: zylophone
mircea_popescu: and zylophone
ThickAsThieves: bam!
mircea_popescu: hahah
ThickAsThieves: the hive mind is improving
asciilifeform: http://unspell.blogspot.com/2013/12/what-does-one-need-to-know-in-order-to.html
ozbot: Project Unspell: What does one need to know in order to read English?
asciilifeform: http://unspell.blogspot.com/2013/11/why-doesnt-it-use-latin-alphabet.html
ozbot: Project Unspell: Why doesn't it use the Latin alphabet?
asciilifeform: etc
mircea_popescu: "Nobody likes you, generally speaking, and the presumptuous, misguided sort of nonsense I'm responding to here is a prime example of why. Romania is a large country, populated by a lot of distinct Internet users. Comparatively, wikipedia is a small shithole populated by a lot of indistinguishable idiots. Please stop getting into everyone's day."
mircea_popescu: dude who the fuck is trolling wikipedia to this insane degree
mircea_popescu: i wish to give him some atc
ThickAsThieves: has he actually taught anyone the language and studied if it isn;t worse for being so stripped down?
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: his son
ThickAsThieves: distinctive letters make text easier to scan, no?
asciilifeform: correct
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's more complicated than just that.
ThickAsThieves: surely
mircea_popescu: good simple rulesets also make text easier to scan
mircea_popescu: exceptions tho apparently have their own advantages
mircea_popescu: there's no consensus of what makes a better language, other than edge cases such as ergativity
mircea_popescu: ( ie http://trilema.com/2013/the-linguistic-mark-of-cultural-failure/ )
asciilifeform: there is plenty of data on what makes for a terrible one, though.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
dhenson: regardless of the validity of the investment, that Rockminer IPO was crazy last night... 13 seconds.
mircea_popescu remembers the days of bitvps ipo...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07050001 = 0.3525 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0705 = 0.3525 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00283 = 0.1415 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/26/4795861/charlotte-mayor-patrick-cannon.html#.UzMYaq1dXGT
ozbot: Charlotte Mayor Patrick Cannon arrested on corruption charges | CharlotteObserver.com
benkay: what happened, dhenson?
dhenson: They opened up 3750 shares for a public IPO at noon china time and they all sold in 13 seconds.
dhenson: 15k shares pre-sold in blocks of 2000+ before the public IPO so they sold out before most people had a chance to buy in.
benkay: this is on which sexchange?
dhenson: not an exchange, direct btc deposit to their IPO btc address.
dhenson: direct shares
mircea_popescu: o hey, like the 2012 mpoe ipo
dhenson: I wasn't around for that. In what way, the speed, or the nature of the direct purchase?
dhenson: @benkay here is the results of the 13 second IPO http://rockminer.com/IPODATA.htm
benkay: dhenson: no trading of shares?
benkay: bitcoin-assets: is a lockup like this auto-scam?
dhenson: not yet, they are going to build a UI just for trading their shares.
dhenson: ...ala activemining
benkay: footsteps of giants...
Mats_cd03: brilliant, really
Apocalyptic: <dhenson> not yet, they are going to build a UI just for trading their shares. << classic
benkay: mpoe trades on mpex so mp can manip
benkay: why not asicminer?
benkay: why not rockminer?
mircea_popescu: dhenson in the manner.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745
ozbot: Sa ne jucam de-a investitiile-n bitcoini. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: it's there.
ThickAsThieves: i personally find the rockminer thing to be rather shady
ThickAsThieves: he's essentially taking over what was supposed to be something AM does, which isnt horrible per se, sure AM wants to sell chips only, but why does he need all that money?
ThickAsThieves: he's been doing this for a while already right?
ThickAsThieves: if he is on the AM board, how is a fair price determined
benkay: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00525030 / 0.00532656 / 0.00562810 (207 shares, 1.10259731 BTC), 7D: 0.00520780 / 0.00542561 / 0.00567280 (2368 shares, 12.84784637 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00555954 / 0.00900001 (49167 shares, 273.34604977 BTC)
ThickAsThieves: bewteen companies
ThickAsThieves: so you buy RM shares and then slowly get your money back via AM divs?
ThickAsThieves: etc
ThickAsThieves: i dont see why theyd sell shares other than to push loss onto the shareholders
mircea_popescu: oh it's one of those ?
ThickAsThieves: is it more than a PMB? is it any less exposed to diff increase than other mining?
ThickAsThieves: i dunno
dhenson: I agree TaT it seems shady to me as well... especially if AM ends up not mining anymore.
ThickAsThieves: will diff calm down this year?
ThickAsThieves: like AM has been mining of any note anyway...
dhenson: But with new chips... everyone assumed they would.
TomServo: .d
ozbot: 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1732 blocks | Estimated Change: 9.3513% in 10d 21h 32m 56s
ThickAsThieves: they would only mine themselves if it were more profitable than selling
dhenson: You'd think mining would be more profitable than $1/GH
ThickAsThieves: that situation only exists if diff growth flatlines right?
mircea_popescu: maybe
ThickAsThieves: i guess exchange rate is important too
dhenson: Makes me wonder if FC is one of the private investors with a portion of the 60k private shares.
ThickAsThieves: if not, other board members are likely to be
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07287978 = 0.1458 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: https://blog.blockchain.com/2014/03/26/precaution-vanity-addresses/
ozbot: A Precaution on Vanity Addresses | Blockchain Blog
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/26/5550260/wu-tang-clan-will-only-sell-a-single-copy-of-their-new-album how long before it leaks?
ozbot: Wu-Tang Clan will only sell a single copy of their new album | The Verge
benkay: the girl is over her sickness
benkay: the apartment will now get cleaned
benkay: *fist pumps*
Mats_cd03: it is absolutely a money grab
Mats_cd03: the bottom is going to fall out at some point
Mats_cd03: you heard it here first
dhenson: So basically RM+AM = OLD AM?
mircea_popescu: so basically a rehash of the old "pirate pass through" scam
mircea_popescu: trying to push the looming hole on newbie "investors"
mircea_popescu: where's the overlord-padishah-grandking or w/e his name was
Mats_cd03: > padishah_emperor
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/762/neobee-orphaned-in-2014/ what's the story here ?
ozbot: BitBet - NeoBee Orphaned in 2014
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00281999 = 0.2284 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07288121 = 1.1661 BTC [+] {4}
adolf_fishler: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz8kvfE46e1r7rf54.jpg
BingoBoingo: http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/003/7/d/terrifying_manul_by_zauberparacelsus-d4l62ks.png
BingoBoingo: https://global3.memecdn.com/Smart-manul_o_63783.jpg
pankkake: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2014/02/fail-faster.html It is rare for a startup to admit it isn’t going to work out, and give some cash back to investors. […] A great application of prediction markets is to give better and clearer warnings of upcoming failure, to enable better mitigation, such as quitting.
mircea_popescu: pankkake definitely.
ThickAsThieves: "Male university students in North Korea must get the same haircut as their leader Kim Jong-un, reports say."
ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats
gribble: Current Blocks: 292609 | Current Difficulty: 5.0068605892054E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 294335 | Next Difficulty In: 1726 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 2 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 5498440775.59 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.81813
TomServo: Either I forgot how to read a graph or gribble and ozbots' diff stats don't match sipa. What am I doing wrong?
ThickAsThieves: gribble uses strictly data since last change
ThickAsThieves: unless you use ;;estimate
ThickAsThieves: which will also give data based on last 3 days
ThickAsThieves: the differences are all likely in the chosen sample ranges
ThickAsThieves: "TSA recommends airports use armed guards during peak hours"
ThickAsThieves: so much work, just shoot em if youre fed up
mike_c: what, the tsa is going to repel an armed attack on the airport? please.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11620 @ 0.00094474 = 10.9779 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: TomServo nothing matches.
mircea_popescu: mike_c no, but they may accidentally shoot some grannies...
mircea_popescu: i think the us is optimised for involuntary humour these days.
mircea_popescu: "We accept most international and local credit and debit cards as well as PayPal. Flattr use Euro as its base currency, but it doesn’t matter what currency you use, we take care of the exchange."
mircea_popescu: o look at that. there's some sort of fiat competition to bitcoin etc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.072877 = 0.1458 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: http://www.circle.com/press-releases/circle-internet-financial-closes-17-million-series-b-financing/
bitcoinpete: "Circle is one of the first companies built from the ground up to provide financial products for consumers that harness the power of Bitcoin to enable faster transactions, lower costs, greater privacy safeguards and increased protection against fraud and identity theft while enabling more frictionless global economic activity and cross-border transactions. The company’s forthcoming products, which entered limited availability release today,
bitcoinpete: promise to allow consumers and businesses to use digital currency easily, reducing much of the friction and risk that is currently associated with Bitcoin."
bitcoinpete: More VC noise
benkay: "to allow consumers and businesses to use digital currency safe in the knowledge that their governments will be able to know everything about our customers without resorting to thermorectal cryptanalysis."
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete by now i can't separate the "from the ground up" automatism from the earlier linked retards.
bitcoinpete: experience in complying with high-level bureaucrats must count for something
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: if that were true most wikipedia editors would not be unemployed.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.046 = 0.23 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0559 = 0.2795 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00281 = 0.267 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: i thought they wiki authors were retired or semi-retired, like many here
bitcoinpete: *the
mike_c: who in here is retired?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu:
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.046 = 0.276 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i used to be retired
mircea_popescu: but i retired from it.
bitcoinpete: mike_c: surely there are those who don't have to work anymore, but choose to. i call that retired
bitcoinpete: i tried it as well. lasted about 2 weeks
asciilifeform: i think we have multiple 'weight classes' represented here.
bitcoinpete: boredom took hold
mike_c: i don't call running a 1m btc business retired, regardless of motivations.
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: well there are at least 4 layers
asciilifeform: perhaps 5 if you count the vagrants
BingoBoingo: Prolly six if you count the people who aspire to be the vagrants
asciilifeform: who aspires to be vagrant?
mircea_popescu: mike_c i spent ~5 years or so in a tropical paradise doing... nothing.
TestingUnoDosTre: Nice... I'm getting bumped up to a vagrant?
thestringpuller: so mircea_popescu you are retired from being retired? so technically that would still make you retired?
mircea_popescu: would it ?
TestingUnoDosTre: no
mircea_popescu: i dunno how these nominalist things work.
asciilifeform: 'retired' isn't a weight class.
thestringpuller: you are a retired retiree
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: 5?! that's dedication
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine there must be still more destitute than the vagrants
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: prolly an overstatement, more like 3
bitcoinpete: still lots of time for literature
asciilifeform: ok let's try this. bottom: penniless urchin hounded by creditors. next: penniless urchin, or child, with zero net worth.
the20year3: Got the little cottage rented out, joy
asciilifeform: next: wretch who works a full shift with no internet connection...
mircea_popescu: urchin has creditors ? how ?
asciilifeform: next: lowly engineer (yours truly)
asciilifeform: next: elderly engineer or businessman with serious income, but mortgaged up the gills
bitcoinpete: http://www.entrepreneur.co.za/advice-from-the-youngest-self-made-female-billionaire-in-history/
ozbot: Advice From The Youngest Self-Made Female Billionaire in History | Entrepreneur.co.za
mircea_popescu: uh
asciilifeform: next: man of leisure, but bound to the land
asciilifeform: next: international man of leisure (mr p)
bitcoinpete: Highlights: 5) Hire people you like and trust >> Sounds like WoT to me. 7) You CAN figure it out – you have the ability.>> Right...
mircea_popescu: spax is not worth 1bn, and she doesn't own it all. wtf.
bitcoinpete: hirarious
mircea_popescu: dude chick's 40 and still running the gauntlet
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Sara_Blakely_at_2013_Time_100_Gala.jpg
mircea_popescu: sucks.
asciilifeform: 'penniless urchin hounded by creditors' may be an anglo-world only phenomenon
asciilifeform: cross off where not applicable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean like, a dual php/grad student with no assets ?
asciilifeform: (perhaps it should be considered a sub-variety of medieval serf)
TestingUnoDosTre: wait wait wait. How is a lowly engineer below an elderly engineer or businessman that's mortgaged up to the gills
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: i agree, those two also seem reversed.
asciilifeform: the elderly engineer could take his next few salary cheques and run
asciilifeform: theoretically.
mircea_popescu: the kid could run as is
mircea_popescu: much less theoretical.
asciilifeform: if the kid could 'breathe vacuum', he would probably have run already.
mircea_popescu: kids CAN breathe vacuum
mircea_popescu: that they think they can't is what keeps society in order
rithm: i'm so confused right now
mircea_popescu: rithm most notable side effect of this chan
asciilifeform: 'iso-standard' penniless kid typically relies on various social connections (blood relatives, chums) for survival
rithm: true dat
mircea_popescu: also known as http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=90
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform easier to do in better countries
mircea_popescu: (which in this context means, non-anglo-saxon)
rithm: WHAT IN THE FUCK CAPS LOCK OH shit kids can't breathe in a vaccuum they turn dead
mircea_popescu: metaphorical kids, metaphorical vacuum, metaphorical breathing.
asciilifeform: rithm: understand 'breathe vacuum' as 'steal enough for a plane ticket and move to afghanistan'
rithm: if you had a jar and closed and sucked all of the air out
rithm: and you would call that a vacuum
rithm: but I would say nothing separates the jar
mircea_popescu: rithm if you took the average 16yo and paradroped them naked anywhere in the world,
mircea_popescu: they would live to be 18.
mircea_popescu: if you took the average 60 yo and paradropped them naked anywhere in the world, they would not live to be 65.
rithm: you give them 2 years
rithm: after being naked and alone
rithm: that's too many
asciilifeform: phun phact. every lab that uses mice has glue traps.
mircea_popescu: naked teenagers aren';t alone for long.
TestingUnoDosTre: I thought the quote was because people tend to speak here before thinking...
asciilifeform: and ~100% of dropped mice end in them
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre it's more of a +iq effect. just being here makes one smarter.
rithm: if the teenagers find drugs or soul crushing rules to live by they might make it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: picture moving an average (male) u.s. suburban kid to... anywhere
rithm: the old people similarly will need drugs to survive
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he'll be fine.
mircea_popescu: just cry like a little bitch for a coupla weeks.
mircea_popescu: byt the time he's 50 however... he can no longer be fine. no matter what.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, i would say heroin addiction is a fine analogue.
asciilifeform: orlov had a neat piece on soviet 50yo middle manager suicides
mircea_popescu: the six months old chipper != the ten year old user.
TestingUnoDosTre: I tried looking for this orlov piece and all I could find is an entire Russian family that runs back 300 years, and some hockey player
asciilifeform: TestingUnoDosTre: cluborlov.blogspot.com
asciilifeform: TestingUnoDosTre: 'post-soviet lessons for post-american century'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.05488041 = 0.5488 BTC [-] {4}
TestingUnoDosTre: Is this a better written form of that slide presentation someone posted yesterday?
asciilifeform: yes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.00094474 = 0.8975 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml
ozbot: Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century
TestingUnoDosTre: found it, thanks
TestingUnoDosTre: Speaking of oil, anyone know who places that bet about january 15 oil futures?
mircea_popescu: iirc bitbet had sometrhing re wti
TestingUnoDosTre: that's what my question was: do you know who placed it?
mircea_popescu: nope.
benkay: kinda one of the features of bitbet, TestingUnoDosTre
benkay: the po
benkay: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/09/13/a-business-idea/
ozbot: A Business Idea | Chateau Heartiste
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00094474 = 3.779 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that domain is familiar
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: famous in the 'moldbug' set
mircea_popescu: nah i only heard of modlbug... hm. through you i tihnk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2278 @ 0.00013001 = 0.2962 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: to my head he's very recent
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: linked to me once, a few years ago, describing as 'the moldbug of computing.' not sure if complement or curse.
mircea_popescu: hm
asciilifeform: he's one of the folks who write guides for axenic mice on how to emulate having an immune system.
asciilifeform: ;;google manosphere
gribble: Viva La Manosphere! - Now updated hourly: <http://vivalamanosphere.com/>; Manosphere - Return Of Kings: <http://www.returnofkings.com/category/manosphere>; Manosphere | Know Your Meme: <http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/manosphere>
mircea_popescu: oh, is this some dood from the pua scene ?
asciilifeform: right
asciilifeform: moldbug isn't exactly recent (circa '07, afaik)
asciilifeform: when he mostly quit writing, his stuff was picked up and 'digested' by various people
asciilifeform: and 'popularized'
mircea_popescu: must be someone i mocked at some point but i don't recall specifics
mircea_popescu: (the heartiste thing i mean)
asciilifeform: it's mockable, but you gotta understand where it came from
asciilifeform: ;;google scanners live in vain
gribble: Scanners Live in Vain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanners_Live_in_Vain>; Scanners Live In Vain : Cordwainer Smith : Free Download ...: <https://archive.org/details/ScannersLiveInVain>; Literature/Scanners Live in Vain - Television Tropes & Idioms: <http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/ScannersLiveInVain>
asciilifeform: it's interesting how, after many years of talmudic sophistry, the 'pua' folks arrived at their current technological state of the art: buying a plane ticket out of the u.s.
mircea_popescu: generally mockery is distinct from execution.
mircea_popescu: i don't mock with an intent to murder.
dignork: asciilifeform, btw thank you for refernce to moldbug, his texts are pretty amusing
BingoBoingo: ;;google trilema heartiste
gribble: Ideological Space - Outside in: <http://www.xenosystems.net/ideological-space/>; Is Game Making Women Overconfident? - Roosh V: <http://www.rooshv.com/is-game-making-women-overconfident>; 'Outreach' Open Thread | Handle's Haus: <http://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/outreach-open-thread/>
BingoBoingo: I'll dig up the Trilema article
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you sure you read it there ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I know you mocked it and linked it.
BingoBoingo: I think it was fall 2013?
mircea_popescu: aha!
mircea_popescu: so i'm not entirely deluded here.
BingoBoingo: Maybe a simple minded psychopath, but damned if you are deluded
mircea_popescu: lol
moiety: hihi
moiety: MOTD (manul of the day) http://wall4all.me/walls/animals/cats-manul-wildcat-1009019-1600x1067.jpg
moiety: that needs photoshopped into something immense
TestingUnoDosTre: what is pua?
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.04761666 = 0.5714 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/apparently-im-not-the-only-one-pointing-out-the-obvious/
mircea_popescu: o hey good catch
mircea_popescu: TestingUnoDosTre pick up artistry
TestingUnoDosTre: hmph. That's what I got from das google, but thought it somehow didn't fit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00451599 = 0.1355 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5530 @ 0.00094474 = 5.2244 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 153 @ 0.00280924 = 0.4298 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 27 @ 0.01637999 = 0.4423 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;seen davout
gribble: davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 20 hours, 57 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <davout> bah
kakobrekla: ;;later tell davout ping
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07288995 = 0.2187 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 89 @ 0.002839 = 0.2527 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: The real prize in Crimea http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140326/188762672/Crimean-Military-Dolphins-to-Serve-in-Russian-Navy.html
mike_c: have no fear americans, we're on it. "The facility is one of only two such combat dolphin training centers in the world, the other is run by the US Navy in San Diego."
joecool: BingoBoingo: oh same ones with the knives and pistols attached to their heads?
BingoBoingo: joecool: Does it matter?
joecool: BingoBoingo: well the US lost a bunch with toxic dart guns attached some years back
BingoBoingo: Well, things happen
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: poor dolphins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.055 = 0.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.10144642 = 0.2029 BTC [-]
qwebirc1010269: asciilifeform that was a good read, but I'm unsure of how quickly this whole US default will occur
TestingUnoDosTre: lost my username for a moment there http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml
moiety: combat dolphins?! sort of useless when they get distracted and go off on year long gang rapes
mircea_popescu: moiety i thought it was the goats with the gang rapes
tg2: dat context
TestingUnoDosTre: yah a year long gang rape? Dolphins copulate in like microseconds
mircea_popescu: afaik dolphins copulate like most other mammals
moiety: no, they group together and imprison a lone female for months at a time, taking it in turns
mircea_popescu: (which is to say, the male merely inserts the penis, and the female milks it)
mircea_popescu: makes rape a tenuous proposition.
moiety: its not the length of time they take, its the length of time they keep doing it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.10144642 = 0.3043 BTC [-]
tg2: dolphins are the only species to copulate more frequently than your mom.
mircea_popescu: http://www.myzimbabwe.co.zw/news/542-kwekwe-man-finds-goats-having-sex-beats-up-male-one-rapes-female-one.html
mircea_popescu: 23yo widower.
nubbins`: wreckhouse area of newfoundland set a wind speed record earlier this evening, 183km/h
tg2: stop you're making fox jealous
moiety: its an authority and territorial thing http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/9172937/Dolphins-resort-to-rape.html
mircea_popescu: http://www.myzimbabwe.co.zw/news/210-jealous-silobela-man-finds-donkeys-having-sex-kills-the-male-one.html
mircea_popescu: (mostly for pic of aroused donkey and hilarious copy)
moiety: err who to the goat rape pic?!
tg2: those are some solid english writing skills
moiety: took*
moiety: ffs poor donkey
Duffer1: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21foj9/funds_currently_being_stolen_from_vanity/
joecool: mircea_popescu: you ever consider a tabloid-style sister site of trilema? "Writing dumb shit for the masses"
nubbins`: Duffer1 imagine
Duffer1: hehe
joecool: mircea_popescu: stupid people often don't have money though, have to fund it with very invasive ads
mircea_popescu: joecool nah, too much work.
moiety: there's plenty sites that even just collect the shit from other sites of crap anyways
joecool: mircea_popescu: get other people write it?
joecool: *to write
mircea_popescu: well... you do it then ?
tg2: lol using 3rd parties to generate your private key
tg2: solid
nubbins`: ^
tg2: instant-e.com still scaming away
moiety: i'mmaking a completely useless site for my own benefit re my new obsession (blame asciilifeform)
tg2: makes me want to spam online wallet sites and just steal everybodies coins
tg2: like them
joecool: mircea_popescu: too much work, I already have other writers on those sort of projects
mircea_popescu: lol
tg2: #1 google result for "litecoin online wallet", extended validation SSL cert
tg2: straight up just stealing them lol
tg2: 5 months of "I GOT SCAMMED BY INSTANT-E.COM" threads everywhere
mircea_popescu: moiety what is your new, stan-induced obsession ?
moiety: manuls!
mircea_popescu: tg2 bfl is stillaround...
nubbins`: heh
tg2: can't say i'm mad
tg2: if anything I'm probably jealous
mike_c: joecool: isn't that bitcointalk?
moiety: all i need to make my life complete is a manul + laser pic
tg2: i tracked somebody who said they got scammed, followed the coins, went into a wallet with 17,000 LTC
tg2: for 1 month of transactions
joecool: mike_c: i have some shit standards
tg2: all source transactions were from nov
mircea_popescu: lambo on its way
tg2: dude is in china
tg2: i hunted him down
tg2: clown had his old software site hosted on the same ip before
tg2: threatened to reveal him if he didn't pay me 50ltc bounty
tg2: he did
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.360
mircea_popescu: some moar cog drama. kakobrekla ^
mircea_popescu: as far as i recall, about a week before disappearing, nefario froze goat'
mircea_popescu: s "assets" in a rather similar fashion
mircea_popescu: (goat was at the time running the more obviously fraudulent, highest volume shit glbse was listing)
tg2: " Why is the site off line SO OFTEN Huh "
tg2: dat webscale
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.05428002 = 0.5428 BTC [-] {3}
tg2: cloudflare pls
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286634.msg5917682#msg5917682
ozbot: [BTC-TC] CIPHERMINE.B1 - a virtual corporate bond with a 22% fixed-fiat APR
mircea_popescu: check that shit out. i remember the days the counter was... you know... xmas. http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuple/
BingoBoingo: moiety:
BingoBoingo: http://www.memecenter.com/fun/1513719/manul-the-cat-on-holiday
ozbot: Manul The Cat On Holiday by badratio - Meme Center
nubbins`: good ol' havelock
nubbins`: home of the legitimate fund
moiety: BingoBoingo: bahahaha that's epic. i love how they all have that "fuck off" face
B007: tg2: 50 ltc lol
tg2: 2 emails and 20 minutes of sleuthing
tg2: $2700/hr
tg2: if I really wanted to get paid
tg2: I'd have his hosting pulled
tg2: hosting at softlayer like a true cheapskate
B007: what do you do irl
tg2: sleuth
tg2: I am an angel vc
tg2: you?
B007: student
B007: nothing
tg2: cool, keep at it
B007: depends
tg2: build something cool
tg2: post it in here, have it shot down, collect yourself, settle into a career of tech support
tg2: thats the best advice I can give
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B007: tech support? im in cs
tg2: spot on
tg2: darkcoin 3x coming in the next 2 weeks
tg2: calling it now
nubbins`: [21:20:18] <B007> tech support? im in cs <<< that's why he said it ;D
kakobrekla: you slanderous soul you mp.
mircea_popescu: tg2 angel vc where ?
kakobrekla: its but a scratch.
tg2: everywhere
tg2: im in montreal
tg2: but I like to spread my seed around
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla "it's but a flesh wound"
B007: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=darkcoin
ozbot: Google Trends
B007: wut
kakobrekla: yea yea
tg2: yeah, darkcoin is not a bad idea right now
tg2: what do you do mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: fun factoid : my rift guild cosnsiting of ~1000 teenagers also somehow magically contains half a dozen of "special agents" in "bruxels"
mircea_popescu: at least if you believe what they say in chat.
mircea_popescu: tg2 i run game guilds.
B007: lel
tg2: better than being a student with nothing to their name
tg2: aye
moiety: mew benkay
mircea_popescu: i have endless piles of platinum, gold and other game currencies
tg2: quite the game
tg2: I hope you're winning at it
B007: he also has endless piles of irl money
B007: in case you didnt know
mircea_popescu: im in it for the social justice aspect.
tg2: not so different from game money
benkay: allo mon manul
benkay: mah?
moiety wonders why there is no manul game; goes to find game dev
benkay: hey mircea_popescu what's the correct posessive there
mircea_popescu: mein
mircea_popescu: mein mehnuler
mircea_popescu: (allo maman nulle ?)
tg2: mon = french
tg2: mah = black
mircea_popescu: ;;google mon mec a moi, il me port'en voiture
gribble: Les blagues - Restena: <http://w3.restena.lu/primaire/mondorf/altwies/5e97_98/5e_travaux/blagues.html>; Le couteau et la loi - LaToileScoute: <http://www.latoilescoute.net/le-couteau-et-la-loi>; Miroir dis moi qui sont les vrais, Dis-moi dis-moi.. – Dolce Vita: <http://rapgenius.com/1321974/Lacrim-dolce-vita/Miroir-dis-moi-qui-sont-les-vrais-dis-moi-dis-moi-qui-sont-les- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: hm
benkay: manul a moi
tg2: my boi, brings me in a car?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62703977 = 3.1352 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: i guess nobody is from the 70s.
nubbins`: close, '82
benkay: old men.
tg2: not at that advanced state of age
cazalla: B007: google trends is misleading, add litecoin so you can see the trend relative to another keyword
benkay: old, well-capitalized men.
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWcSEaEyR8
ozbot: Patricia Kaas - Mon Mec A Moi - YouTube
tg2: darkcoin actually adds some value
tg2: not liek every other shitcoin I've seen in the last 3 months
moiety: and women>> '84