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assbot: Paedophile porn rings 'selling live streams of child rape on Skype', Europol warns | Daily Mail Online ... (
http://bit.ly/1BoSZ18 )
cazalla: it's old news btw, for some reason they dug up a report from last year and ran it today as new
cazalla: thestringpuller, yeah, i was gonna write it up under heading of hundreds of paedos use microsoft products to rape kids, but actually covered the report the above article mentions back in october or november last year
cazalla: microsft really enable these rapes because not only do the paedos use skype, but they use windows as well
cazalla: plus the paedos have the gall to use legitimate services such as Bitcoin
cazalla: actually there is a new report.. may as well write it up
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mircea_popescu: <mike_c> idk. noobs will make sites. and their wordpress blogs will be used in ddos reflection attacks. what can you do. << kvetch
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mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> (oh, and those "experts" in rails/django/yii/whatever tend to swallow wholesale whatever braindamage comes out of the "community") << that's because these are experts in groupthink, having come of age in the 90s at the earliest.
assbot: devsata.c - inferno-kirkwood - Inferno for the Marvell Kirkwood/Sheevaplug - Google Project Hosting ... (
http://bit.ly/1zFdfp0 )
mircea_popescu: <mats> and anyway i like to see what people offended by mp are up to << lol me too. but this guy... he's not offended, he's just trying to you knwo, "make it in this game".
mats: its revealing how people react when confronted with inadequacy
cazalla: you won't sleep with me? ya fucking slut!
mats: hm, 'Citizenfour' is public domain due to being used as evidence in a suit
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mats: i'm not really sure how it works
gribble: Current Blocks: 345015 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 1736 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, 2 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 43633659578.1 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.53477
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assbot: Defense provided 2 DVDs of Citizenfour as exhibit in Edwards suit. So film in public domain as unsealed record. On HBO 2/23/15. Leaking $.
mats: i'm not certain that submission as evidence nullifies IP rights
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mike_c: "I'll fetch when i damn well please"
Vexual: New rules for foreign investors buying real estate in oz. You pay a small lubrication fee to the firb and despite any n shell companies you are liable for theoretical noncompliance fines.
Vexual: Only took a week and everyone happy
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mircea_popescu: <mats> i'm not certain that submission as evidence nullifies IP rights << it's a right nightmare.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller part of the reason it doesn't matter is that nasdaq would like it to.
assbot: The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site' | US news | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/1AIGUR4 )
mircea_popescu: part of the reason nasdaq would like it to is that it's yet anopther "make bitcoin more like fiat retardness"
mircea_popescu: “It’s sort of an open secret among attorneys that regularly make police station visits, this place – if you can’t find a client in the system, odds are they’re there,” said Chicago lawyer Julia Bartmes.
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ben_vulpes: this "snore" attitude is part and parcel of the decay.
ben_vulpes: "boring, world's going to hell in a handbasket."
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decimation: how do you negrate the city of chicago
decimation: re: federal employees overpaid < I suspect the whole system operates as a net with a hole - all the talent get sucked in and immediately leaves, but the bottom suckers end up 'caught'
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decimation: so, sure some feds are way underpaid, but the majority are overpaid losers
decimation: actually there's a deeper problem. When you 'work' for a 'democracy', your boss is 'the people'
decimation: when everyone is your boss, no one is your boss
decimation: who is accountable to a chain of bosses who ultimately account to themselves
decimation: or maybe Obama fires people for failing to deliever?
mats: "They have been persisting in their misrepresentations, lies, whatever you want to call them, about their activities there to my face"
decimation: one wonders how many usg state department officers would be hired by other countries if usg went bankrupt
decimation: "Oh I'm totally an awesome diplomat, look at my years of usg experience!"
mats: that post is silly. the guard would fail overnight.
mats: give it another four years and all the useful combat vets will have exited the service out of sheer disgust
decimation: mats: I've witnessed that happening too
mats: the clever ones are already losing their minds in group
mats: too much political fuckery, civ and mil, for any useful body to bear
decimation: unfortunately, this means that the current population of the military is strongly selected for nominal loyalty to usg
decimation: at least as long as the dollars keep rolling
decimation: asciilifeform: why does usg keep wanting to bring back the cold war? nostalgia?
mats: SS didn't get stomped multiple times and asked to enjoy it.
mats: granted, they were trounced in ... northern africa? my ww2 history knowledge languishes.
mats: anyway, i did say useful. night folks.
ben_vulpes: jurov, asciilifeform: as though "lisp" and "algol" even exist as actual things.
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decimation: asciilifeform: unfortunately ada (derived from pascal-algol) has 1-based array indexes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15186 @ 0.00040757 = 6.1894 BTC [+]
decimation: all the examples I've found start with a 1
decimation: I assumed it was a language 'feature' like matlab
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6065 @ 0.00040757 = 2.4719 BTC [+]
decimation: asciilifeform: how can any kind of signal magically compromise a stu?
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ben_vulpes: `emacs` on remote server pops x11 frame locally
ben_vulpes: `emacs -daemon && emacsclient -c`...not so much.
cazalla: mmm home made potato gnocchi with muh tomato/chilli sauce (both from garden) and chorizo.. just missing a beer :\
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ben_vulpes: decimation, lmk if you need a hand with erc and sasl.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.82, Best ask: 238.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.38000, Last trade: 238.11, 24 hour volume: 5762.20622708, 24 hour low: 236.3, 24 hour high: 240.98, 24 hour vwap: 238.981156577
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ben_vulpes: if it's not one thing it's a dang nother.
ben_vulpes: your cloak is applied after you join, fyi
gmaxwell: man y'all will get a kick out of the latest foundation lol-event. They have some _utterly_ braindead 'blockchain voting' scheme for their board vote run off (gotta love changing voting infrastructure mid election for election integrity)
☟︎ gmaxwell: So if you want to block Olivier Janssens from getting approved; for example get miners to just block payments to 1MG6SSwK2qSASM2QgBez2g4YFe3ib4d2eL.
gmaxwell: (the site is so broken that I'm having a hard time extracting addresses for the other options)
punkman: well at least they didn't do another fork to implement colored voting coins or whatever
BingoBoingo: I am astounded at all of the ways they manage to keep screwing this election.
gmaxwell: At the moment it seems all you can do is vote in favor of Olivier Janssens (thats why I'm able to see the address there), the rest of the options are coming up as "not available yet"
gmaxwell: oh the jim harper options are up now too.
punkman: is anyone still buying foundation memberships?
gmaxwell: Org seems to be doing its damndest to commit suicide.
gmaxwell: I also like that contacting Jinyoung Englund to report how buste things are, gets me a "I am out of the office Weds, February 25 through Sunday, March 1, 2015"
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2015 17:39:09; mircea_popescu: this is exactly like suicide : the people who succeed we want. the people who fail should have succeeded.
BingoBoingo: I mean they were not doing too bad when they were just burning various agencies' time, but then they just pivoted and stopped doing that
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gmaxwell: yea, I actually thought there work there more or less made sense; it had some liability (since they couldn't seem to resist letting people think they 'spoke for bitcoin') but it generally seemed to be going okay. Mostly burning pointless peoples pointless time, sure; but it was nice having _someone_ in combatting all the really agressive fud that some 'bitcoin alternatives' are slinging.
gmaxwell: Another interesting property is that it should be trivial to buy votes with this thing.
fluffypony: how are the votes authenticated? based on the address they're coming from?
gmaxwell: sadly they didn't use this in round 1 where a real statement could be made by buying all the votes and assigning them to a joke candidate.
gmaxwell: fluffypony: looks like it, hard to tell this system is opaque doesn't seem to be publically documented.
gmaxwell: They have some hacked up flaky counterparty wallet software that gives you some preset destitions to vote.
gmaxwell: looks like for each voter they fund them with 0.0021 BTC (and some amount of 'counterparty' altcoin, I dunno how to tell how much)
gmaxwell: looks like one can just take the 0.0021 BTC and not vote.
gmaxwell: (well the UI doesn't prevent it, but the user appears to have the private key for it.)
BingoBoingo: To the best of my knowledge the counterparty altcoin s just BTC that's mislabeled when you look at it through their wallet
gmaxwell: BingoBoingo: nah, it seperately tracks 'counterparty' value, like a colored coin, the bitcoin is irrelevant, and just gets around the fact that bitcoin core won't relay 0 value txouts and miners are lazy and don't change defaults.
thestringpuller: gmaxwell: now that is a name I have not seen in a long long time.
gmaxwell: This channel isn't usually to my taste, but I knew some here would appricate this latest BCF lolspectacular.
cazalla: gmaxwell, what about #b-a is not to your liking?
gmaxwell: I like how this ubersecure voting application embeds third party JS in every page (google analyitics); thats exactly how you go about building secure election and finance software. yup.
gmaxwell: cazalla: not my taste doesn't necessarily imply an active dislike.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: cazalla: The porn isn't to his aesthetics.
fluffypony: I like GA for the interwebs, it's easy to block if you don't want to be spotted by it
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Still people insert GA in places it doesn't belong
gmaxwell: It's just an extra sideshow on the general lolfest of incompetent broware.
gmaxwell: people building finance software, voting systems, etc. without spending 5 minutes thinking through possible failure modes and making trivial tweaks to mitigate risk.
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BingoBoingo: The entire AJAX bullshit is a scam. All of that user facing javascript is just there to same them on the server bills
gmaxwell: yea, well, I've given up yelling "get off my lawn" at people, seems the whole world wants to eat suppositories and other such acts of brillance; my patience in telling other people that they're wrong mostly ran out years ago.
BingoBoingo: punkman: He's got some really good ideas, but an elliptic curve? really?
punkman: "it's gotta fit in twitter msg"
gmaxwell: BingoBoingo: not sure why you'd fault that. Any _general_ improvement in ECC pretty much directly translates into an improvement for factoring; the converse is not true. And all the alternative schemes for _encryption_ have high overheads and complex security stories (though one could use two cryptosystems in parallel intelligently for long term security; I tried arguing for that w/ openpgp years
BingoBoingo: gmaxwell: I'm just inclined towards giant RSA keys and presenting a hard problem. It's just I'd like the option. That and ECC is already keeping the money safe...
BingoBoingo: punkman: gpg2 isn't really shipped with anything though because the interface on gpg2 actually sucks
fluffypony: I had to use gpg2 to recv-keys today, because gpg refused to (import filter bug)
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assbot: Gemalto presents the findings of its investigations into the alleged hacking of SIM card encryption keysGemalto presents th ... (
http://bit.ly/1Dov6Vc )
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Vexual: !up rotary dialder yor pre phreak hipster
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Vexual: Its prolly spelling something our
Vexual: Youre allowed to touch the button to verify u know
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Vexual: Next thing u know im not allowed to catch a train to turkey
Vexual: Free passage for the masses I say
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danielpbarron: gmaxwell> So if you want to block Olivier Janssens from getting approved; for example get miners to just block payments to 1MG6SSwK2qSASM2QgBez2g4YFe3ib4d2eL. << ah that's why i saw so many doublespends in my debug.log
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mats: i am really disappointed in moxie
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mats: gpg does suck in a buncha usability ways, but then he goes on to address exactly zero actual problems
mats: then goes on hn to say he doesn't know what the solution is but shills Open Whisper Systems, Mailpile, LEAP
mats: as if Text Secure is usable, has a spec or docs like opengpg, as if mailpile doesn't shell out to a gpg binary
mats: also deliberately misleading folks about widespread use with the quantity of keys on sks keyservers
☟︎ mats: like XXXmn people on e.g. linux don't rely on it daily
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lobbes: "Looking forward, however, I think of GPG as a glorious experiment that has run its course. The journalists who depend on it struggle with it and often mess up (“I send you the private key to communicate privately, right?”)" << lol, this doesn't sound like a problem with gpg. I'll never understand this 'hard-to-use' argument. Just take an afternoon and learn the fundamentals!
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mats:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9104188 >> mike_hearn "In the world of crypto, where we've learned so much, yes old means bad. Almost always... How many crypto geeks STILL spout rubbish about how the PKI is totally busted and the web of trust is the future? Way too many... The future of encrypted messaging is not GPG."
☟︎ mats: he went full retard from sentence one. wat.
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mats: hearn and moxie start from the same premise, where tech and crypto are somehow going to paper over deficiencies in human relations and bring useful encryption to everyone everywhere, and somehow gpg is inadequate because it doesn't solve all problems they've imagined but don't actually present as problems to technically capable people
lobbes: reminds me of the 'bitcoins for all the people in Africa' mantra, and if it can't support that it is somehow 'broken'
assbot: I used to dream of a world where everyone would install GPG. Now I dream of a world where I can uninstall it:
http://t.co/eRZ0hdlmgx bitstein: ^ That was the tweet I was responding to, not my own.
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mats: yeah seriously. installing Thunderbird is hard!
mats: so try my Text Secure app on the Play Store.
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jurov: seems they built it on top of obamacare
jurov: "After confirming your yes/no choice you will be looking for a way to get back to the other candidates to vote for them."
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thestringpuller: bitstein: re: gpg << "GPG is not what consumers have come to expect" is what I'm seeing here.
mats: some of the hn comments are, 'lets make gpg as usable as facebook:
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: but now can finally pour flondor cement << brutal. you sure you don't want to be a mobster? :D
mike_c: asciilifeform, why have you always had slight revulsion? I used to think better of him, but this article is useless. poorly written rant with no suggestions.
bitstein: asciilifeform: What I posted was the important part.
thestringpuller: reminds me of my current CEO, "Blah blah blah ENCRYPTION AS A SERVICE, blah blah blah. THE FUTURE." *applause from dumb audience here*
mike_c: phil zimmerman is a bad guy?
mircea_popescu: my heart was the size of a rice grain when djikstra got linked yest.
thestringpuller: mike_c: disappointing << people are disappointing no? otherwise we would not need WoT...
mircea_popescu: right. neither did zimmerman until he one day started derping about "dark phone"
mircea_popescu: actually, i recall mentioning here that "wtf, this guy publicly takes pride in having lost his gpg key ?" a while back
thestringpuller: dat balmer syndrome...one day you're just "Developer developer developers" sweating profusely on a stage and you don't know why.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Kerry: Moscow lying 'to my face' over Ukraine << roflmao. fuckwit lost some election long long ago, imagines what this does is put him in charge of Barbaria ? instead of you know, Usia ?
mircea_popescu: same al gore schtick. "what's at state in a us presidential election is who gets rome and who gets constantinople"
mircea_popescu: that's not the point. the point is, who the fuck ever heard of the attitude.
mircea_popescu: "moscow" "lying" "to his face" ? wtf is he, supervisor in chief ? dad ?
mike_c: moxie's sekrit thingy is open source though. that's better than somewhat silent circle
mircea_popescu: you know ? he's arguably not even PART of the usianistan.
mircea_popescu: decimation: "Oh I'm totally an awesome diplomat, look at my years of usg experience!" << this lol.
mircea_popescu: were i putin i'd put something in pravda.us "Kerry is so inept I would fire him if I ran the US."
mircea_popescu: why would anyone still receive him after something like this i dun understand ?
mircea_popescu: next he shows up have him detained at border for 36 hours, let him go with a 10 year interdict.
mircea_popescu: mats: give it another four years and all the useful combat vets will have exited the service out of sheer disgust << almost there anyway, yeh.
mike_c: fine. i will deduct two points from his wot rating in my head. that's too bad.
ben_vulpes: "An agile, distributed, and secure strategy for replacing Certificate Authorities" << agile, hah.
BingoBoingo: Maybe they figure everyone's depreciated reading /var/
PeterL: "The best way to go is probably fixed fee + per line fee or something." I like this, encourages less LoC bloat
PeterL: ^from the trilema post just linked
jurov: so you imply nsa is behind btcatm anad changetip?
danielpbarron: i think my comment was something like "It's possible to achieve 'Perfect forward secrecy' with GPG; you're just retarded. And if it isn't brain damage, I can only assume you have been enlisted on to lizard hitler's payroll"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "diddlematics" << i never figured kako for a collaborator...
jurov: lol, like one can speculate i have created coinbr to preemptively get down on nsa or some such
jurov: i can see them trying to. only by sheer luck is what i'm doing covered as "financial service" atm
ben_vulpes: jurov: "preemptively go down" << ftfy :P
jurov: so that i don't need to mess with eu vat
nubbins`: incidentally, was there ever a qntra article about cavirtex shutting down?
nubbins`: they say they're shutting because they realized their customer db was compromised at some point in the past
jurov: but some day i can see them going "financial service? yea we got some regulation for you"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: this is simply what usg... is << i actually have a more psychotropic theory. basically, on some subconscious level, us knows it's become uss. and what it wants is, the validation of "well i didn't do anything useful, but at least the stupid thing i did i did WELL". this to be obtained, in the way such nonsense works, by confronting the symbolic representative thereof and "winning".
nubbins`: which sorta 100% agrees with everyone in #bitcoin-cad, including me, saying we started getting mysterious emails with .jar attachments around this time
mircea_popescu: notice that the us diplomacy is nowhere nearly as inept handling china. arguably russia is more of a threat tho, at least immediately.
nubbins`: PeterL they knew about the intrusion a year or two ago
mircea_popescu: chinese politburo isn't going around publicly and internationally humiliating us president with a monthly frequency.
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assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 07:05:44; cazalla: mmm home made potato gnocchi with muh tomato/chilli sauce (both from garden) and chorizo.. just missing a beer :\
PeterL: nobody cares what china does with its peasants
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mircea_popescu: no, it wouldn't. africa, as unfortunately and politically unpleasant that sounds, probably sucks because genetics.
PeterL: somebody just has to get the Africans organized and industrialized
mircea_popescu: how exactly different from us research you think that is ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL the problem is : africa is essentially "they who stayed". those always suck.
mircea_popescu: it's been selected for 250k years for suckage. no fixing that.
nubbins`: <+PeterL> somebody just has to get the Africans organized and industrialized <<< surely external help running the show is the path to self sufficiency
mircea_popescu: "hey, let's make it into the south pre 1830, then they can be invaded by lincoln v2.0 and have detroit!"
punkman: PeterL: somebody just has to get the Africans organized and industrialized << China's all over it, but they might have to import a billion chinese workers
PeterL: nubbins`: I am not saying self-sufficiency, I am saying rivaling china for output. I also have no idea how one would go about doing it, just saying there are lots of people in Africa which could be used as a resource for the right person
nubbins`: PeterL no doubt. worth noting that "rivaling china for output" is not necessarily a positive
PeterL: you want me to go over to Detroit and organize the populace into something not a worthless mess?
PeterL: "I have big plans, BIG PLANS!, as mayor I will accomplish AMAZING things, with your help!"
PeterL: my brother works in the Detroit Public Schools, from his anecdotes I have little hope things will change there.
chetty: put a big fence around Detroit and come back in a hundred years
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idea is that you have someone trading you 1 joule of fuel for half joule of electricity.
gabriel_laddel: it seems to me that if the west would just fuck off and let China have Africa everything will go swimmingly.
gabriel_laddel: they don't have the same sensibilities, being a different people (*gasp*).
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel that's the plan. it won't work, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: time for some non-white colonisation failures after all.
assbot: Save the Tiger: The animals bred for bones on China’s tiger farms - Commentators - Voices - The Independent ... (
http://bit.ly/1EQBgwS )
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punkman: "The Xionsen Wine Company sells bottles of eight-year-old tiger bone wine, also fortified with tiger penis, for around £200"
PeterL: they make the wine from crushed bones of 8-yo tigers?
NewLiberty: I don't want to know what they did to the tiger to encourage that kind of fortifying
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 08:22:52; gmaxwell: man y'all will get a kick out of the latest foundation lol-event. They have some _utterly_ braindead 'blockchain voting' scheme for their board vote run off (gotta love changing voting infrastructure mid election for election integrity)
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assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 08:49:12; gmaxwell: cazalla: not my taste doesn't necessarily imply an active dislike.
mircea_popescu: "the alleged hacking of SIM card encryption keys" eh ?
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2015 15:20:03; mircea_popescu: the ONLY way i'd have them fighting overseas is if congress approves this plan whereby a) all territory we step on gets granted territory status ; b) soldiers once veteranized are rewarded in homesteads there, and HAVE TO marry local
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 14:34:59; mats: also deliberately misleading folks about widespread use with the quantity of keys on sks keyservers
mircea_popescu: (we, of course, which prolly means we're redoing the sks too)
PeterL: add that to the #b-a todo list?
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 14:39:34; lobbes: "Looking forward, however, I think of GPG as a glorious experiment that has run its course. The journalists who depend on it struggle with it and often mess up (“I send you the private key to communicate privately, right?”)" << lol, this doesn't sound like a problem with gpg. I'll never understand this 'hard-to-use' argument. Just take an afternoon and learn the fundamentals!
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 14:42:59; mats:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9104188 >> mike_hearn "In the world of crypto, where we've learned so much, yes old means bad. Almost always... How many crypto geeks STILL spout rubbish about how the PKI is totally busted and the web of trust is the future? Way too many... The future of encrypted messaging is not GPG."
BingoBoingo: but, how could the chief scientusk of BitcoinXT be wrong?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitstein in a purely ops perspective, it's always a bad idea to link those you disagree with. replace with a link to something you agree to. @moxie knows what he wrote.
nubbins`: today i learned it is legal to sell and serve dog meat in canada
mircea_popescu: anyway, the speed at which the entire world seems to be coagulating around us is nothing short of impressive.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: BitcoinXT is the hearn foundation Bitcoin fork which has all kinds of features even Gavin rejected because they make nodes incredibly more DoS attackable
mircea_popescu: that b-a drives "biutcoin foundation" policy is not even remarkable. that assets like the marlinspike dood are thrown in the fray to try and prevent a wot based republic however...
mircea_popescu: at this rate indiancandy1 is getting replaced with madonna on the short term.
nubbins`: mildly amusing to see this phoundation push for full nodes after it started being worked on in here
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and you know, if you follow the course of events, #1 we went to anti-uspoettering debvian chan
BingoBoingo: It is amusing. Still when it comes time to replace GPG it will look more like
https://github.com/tedu/reop than any Moxenslit iPerson thing (except... with RSA support and done in ADA/Common Lisp)
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, chetty just found a layered bug in the stack eulora uses. one bug prevented the functionality (wrong pointer reference) ; the other bug prevented the previous bug from crashing every single machine all the time.
mircea_popescu: til internet dictionaries define indigence as "the state of being poor".
mircea_popescu: this is exactly wrong. indigence is the state of being worthless.
bitstein: mircea_popescu: Good advice, thanks.
mircea_popescu: "That a public education system could disgorge untold legions of literate, numerate, and motivated graduates is beyond their collective comprehension. How unlucky the Caucasoid races are to have all the kids with learning disabilities."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100850 @ 0.00042255 = 42.6142 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Reportedly did it in a locked bathroom with a .357 magnum
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26012 @ 0.00041268 = 10.7346 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "There just seems to be something particular about people who try GPG and conclude that it’s a realistic path to introducing private communication in their lives for casual correspondence with strangers. Increasingly, it’s a club that I don’t want to belong to anymore." << well... granted, eh.
mircea_popescu: the oil and the water are separating, and no welfarist state-sponsored mixer can do anything abotu the accelerating rate.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11038 @ 0.00040978 = 4.5232 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Worse, it turns out that nobody else found all this stuff to be fascinating. Even though GPG has been around for almost 20 years, there are only ~50,000 keys in the “strong set,” and less than 4 million keys have ever been published to the SKS keyserver pool ever. By today’s standards, that’s a shockingly small user base for a month of activity, much less 20 years."
mircea_popescu: "nobody else" as in, all people are equal, getting a 50k elite out of a 4mn aspirational set out of a 1bn population is somehow unexpected and un-natural.
PeterL: do people use keys not submitted to key servers?
mircea_popescu: Today, journalists use GPG to communicate with sources securely, activists use it to coordinate world wide, and software companies use it to help secure their infrastructure. Some really heroic people have put in an enormous amount of effort to get us here, at substantial personal cost, and with little support.
mircea_popescu: Looking forward, however, I think of GPG as a very dangerous technology that really has to go away if we're serious about making it impossible for journalists, their sources, activists and other enemies of the state to survive in a NSA/TSA/ETC-only world."
mircea_popescu: PeterL sure, there's nothing but convenience requiring it.
PeterL: so that number of users could be understated
mircea_popescu: as a side note : secure comunication via gpg works as follows :
mircea_popescu: 1) you find the public key of the public interface you wish to use
mircea_popescu: 2) you generate - SECURELY (see airgap guide etc) a new keypair for yourself
mircea_popescu: 3) you send mail to 1 using 2 and including pubkey for your new key.
mircea_popescu: this can be repeated as many times as you wish, and it can also be used as an otr process (just make new key for each exchange).
mircea_popescu: half way, because if the public interface is compromised it still sees all your emails.
mircea_popescu: "Even the projects that attempt to use it as a dependency struggle." heh
danielpbarron: the people throwing this term around are advocates of some fully automated process that runs on their phone, so...
mircea_popescu: i wonder if i could sell some cars to these idiots that are really wooden crates with lcd screen inside.
mircea_popescu: "but it's just as good and much easier to use than a car!11"
PeterL: and gets better gas mileage!
thestringpuller: the sad thing is you could do that and prob get bonus at some firm in the US
mircea_popescu: plus, it prevents not only traffic accidents (leading cause of death!) but also, this one time, this guy used a car and was robbed!
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2015 21:26:58; asciilifeform: the fastest, thickest, most luxurious car is --- not having to go places.
mircea_popescu: i should probably ycombinate a start-up to deploy tons of these in old warehouses across the us
mircea_popescu: get some fed grants for it, idiots will prolly go in the box just to be different...
mircea_popescu: and prolly have more market cap than gm, as far as that goes.
PeterL: and politicians will promise "an MP-car for every garage!"
PeterL: heh, I like that name, because when you say it MP-car sounds alot like empty-car
jurov: dunno better comparison to pki would be a car without steering whell, steered by usg
jurov: which there already are some
thestringpuller: lol self driving car in future prevents you from going to certain places.
thestringpuller: "I want to go to the strip club" "Cannot drive to that destination"
mircea_popescu: nah, because a) the usg doesn't care to steer you a particular direction. it only wants you to not move - it's a bureaucracy after all, it has no resources to deal with change, nor can change mean anything but it's ass ; b) the illusion of free wheeling is what's important.
chetty: and delivers you to the gasenwagen when the time comes
thestringpuller: chetty: or turns into a gasenwagen! gas just starts spewing out.
chetty: well I guess they still sorta respect the 5th amendment, might be the only one left
thestringpuller: except when you exercise it they just throw you into a hole
chetty: well this fcc chair was against net nuetrality a while back, then he had a meeting with ?? and 332 pags of new regulation (stamped secret) appeared. You figure it out
mircea_popescu: being humiliated by shitholes like romania apparently isn't going to be a temporary situation.
chetty: well I guess the usaians need to learn from the greeks how make mesh nets
mircea_popescu: no see, the socialised medicine is just good enopugh to prevent an actually useful, individual solution.
mircea_popescu: it's how africa's being "helped" : ban the perfectly fine fillament lightbulbs just as they get to where they could maybe make some, trickle in a little food so most people don't want to work.
mircea_popescu: same thing will be with the fcc internet : just fast enough people don't start making an independent one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 's "gravity hole" is a constructive element, not a random occurence.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00042433 = 10.6507 BTC [+]
chetty: same thing will be with the fcc internet : just fast enough people don't start making an independent one.// speed will not be the only issue, think china
BingoBoingo: But the FCC internet will give users Fat Pipes, to better DoS real people with.
chetty: anybody tried raising pigeons?
gribble: pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 30 weeks, 3 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <pigeons> so far that seems accurate
jurov: lol....guess using drones is cheaper than pigeons by now
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: high speed << not actually a major problem in the american population centres
ascii_field: (e.g. i get ~100 megabaud and can get 500 if paid a little more)
ascii_field: decimation: how can any kind of signal magically compromise a stu? << no magic necessary, just ordinary heterodyne
mircea_popescu: however, romania is, like all of asia, on gbps sorta thing
ascii_field: but decent bandwidth isn't this totally unattainable thing in gringolandia
ascii_field: (and price goes up geometrically with distance from major 'icbm targets')
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24231 @ 0.00042433 = 10.2819 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: no argument that health care was attainable in the us cca 2010. just cost a liuttle more.
ascii_field: 'For a goat may butt, and a worm may sting, / And a child will sometimes stand; / But a poor dead soldier of the King / Can never lift a hand.' (herr kipling)
ascii_field: don't expect much of anything from usa 2020.
ascii_field: orlov, interestingly, argued that high speed net is key in the modern usg 'panem et circenses' program and will chug along long after problems with supplying the basics of life have begun
ascii_field: but it'll be the 'internet of the future' rather than what we're using now.
mircea_popescu: actually intermittent low bw internet would be better for that purpose. keep the redditard busy
BingoBoingo: "Streaming Video" and online gaming are the USG approved application of surplus bandwidth
ascii_field: don't forget streaming audio from microphones chump voluntarily keeps in the house, car, etc
BayAreaCoins: MP do you plan on pulling the CLAM bet on BitBet or is it going to run its course? If you do cancel it I assume the coins will just be sent to the payment addresses?
assbot: BitBet - CLAM losing grip -> sells 0.0029 or lower before April 25th :: 0.18 B (3%) on Yes, 5.08 B (97%) on No | closing in 1 month 3 weeks | weight: 93`348 (100`000 to 10) ... (
http://bit.ly/1Dqxbjc )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00041732 = 5.2582 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00041492 = 2.0124 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31124 @ 0.00042291 = 13.1627 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ascii_field dun take it teh wrong way, but! the thanking is kinda spammy.
mike_c: if we could sign into b-a with our facebook accounts we wouldn't have to get up'ed when we were in the field.
ben_vulpes: there an assbot persistent otp link per key?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00042147 = 5.0576 BTC [-]
jux: they just mentioned this place on teamspeak so i am checking it out
jux: teamspeak all the audio bitcoin chatters/traders
mats: teamspeak sounds like a horrifically bad medium to communicate with more than, say, three people at a time
mircea_popescu: most decent guild players have meanwhile learned to stfu / use it sanely.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00041819 = 6.3356 BTC [-]
assbot: What ARE politicians doing that’s so important that they travel with lights and sirens? | Burned-Out Medic ... (
http://bit.ly/1LEo00t )
ascii_field: ru politicos even fight to decide who merits 'blinker' - like roman lictors
trinque: got the deedbot blockchain up to date yesterday, haxed on the transaction creating guy
trinque: mired in irl work until this evening, but will be finishing up then
trinque: not to derail current convos, but I finally caught up on the current events blockchain as well
trinque: are we really trying to instigate wwiii?
trinque: advisors in ukraine like 'nam
trinque: I feel like I'm going to get my startup profitable just as the roof caves in
assbot: /danielpbarron Daniel r u going to come onto this 200+ user global bitcoin teamspeak channel and bring your cult /hashtag/bitcoinassets?src=hash mates?
chetty: 200+ people talking at once? oh what fun, hold me back
danielpbarron: I joined his google hangout one time; the guy was so flabbergasted with my position that he kept repeating explitives relating to how unbelievable it was
trinque: mircea_popescu: heh, I've always figured I'd be dragging myself out of rubble at some point
trinque: haven't ever been certain whether that was a metaphor
chetty: think of all the fun to be had rebuilding trinque
mircea_popescu: anyway, the notion that dod is dumb enough to re-do vietnam...
trinque: chetty: one hopes it's an opportunity for greatness to emerge
mircea_popescu: the only practical thing it does is it forces women to shut up, with the resultant shutdown of welfare, classes with no grades, coddled children etc.
mircea_popescu: you'd think this could be modulated in the head rather than in the welted butt.
mats: learning windows internals is a daily struggle...
mircea_popescu: Believe me, I am no friend of Biederman's. But the money is a red herring. If you want to be angry about the specific ethics of a psychiatrist receiving Pharma money, fine, but I am telling you it is not worth the Senate time, not worth press space.
mircea_popescu: The real money, the real problem that goes unmentioned is the money that goes to universities, in the form of research grants. Biederman may have pocketed $1M, but I'm sure he was awarded much, much more for clinical trials-- money which he didn't get any of, which went to Harvard.
mircea_popescu: We aren't overmedicating kids because Biederman told us to; we're doing it because Harvard told us to. And Harvard told us to because that is what they are getting money to study. Biederman is just the nanobot that does it.
mircea_popescu: If Biederman never existed, nothing would be different. You read his resume, you think, wow, he's a big player. You don't realize that if he didn't exist there would be some other person in his exact position, who would also have become a Distinguished Professor, won awards, written 450 publications, etc. The machine was already in place, his slot was going to get filled; his mind didn't discover anything, those res
mircea_popescu: ults were coming no matter what, those publications were already going to be written.
mircea_popescu: The money isn't corrupting him into thinking childhood bipolar is underdiagnosed-- he truly believes it. The reason he believes it is his entire professional existence-- his whole identity-- is predicated on believing it. He's not a scientist, he's a priest.
mircea_popescu: if anyone in any position of "big playerness" in fiat is curious to see exactly how true this is ? take a week to not do anything. at all.
mircea_popescu: hey, you're a big player, right ? not doing anything is the default, i'm sure caesar could sit on his ass in the castrum and play dice with the centurions for three straight winters if he so wanted.
mircea_popescu: it's not that he didn't trhat makes him one of those big players, it's that it was solely his option to do so, and didn't.
mircea_popescu: is the same the case for you ? if you simply stop doing your cog-part, is there any pressure ?
mircea_popescu: how long can you stop the machine before you're simply replaced ?
pete_dushenski: sort of why obama fills every moment of every day meeting with various online celebs
pete_dushenski: if he sat still for a moment, you'd forget who was in the white house
assbot: Count your blessings, government employees, to say nothing of your days. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1LEvTTR )
trinque: mircea_popescu: how can anything be done about that particular problem of identity?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00042147 = 4.1515 BTC [+]
trinque: trying to articulate the actual question
trinque: seems having a name creates this bundle of "I am" in the head, which people protect as they do their own bodies
trinque: or even at the cost of their actual bodies
mircea_popescu: identity is the result of action. action requires agency. a perverse system (such as any high density population will always create) separates action from agency. ("i'm only doing my job").
mircea_popescu: this results in broken identity, and there's literally no solution except carnage (bring down that density), which is why people who figure it out usually leave a note where their assault rifles used to be.
trinque: saw you link joe stack the other day
trinque: friends and I had a little celebration that day
ascii_field: doing my job << 'i wüz ünly föllöwing ürderz'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00041818 = 14.4272 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: the entire "act from cause not towards purpose" thing on trilema is exactly a vaccine against that.
☟︎ trinque: his note got a little slogan laden, but I unerstand the grief
trinque: mircea_popescu: that's an exceptionally clarifying statement, and one which I think helps me articulate the identity thing
mircea_popescu: if person has enough sense to limit how much agencyless activity they put out, they will stand a much better chance to develop an actual idenity, and so not find themselves at age 40 flying planes into buildings.
ascii_field: 'Normal social discourse within the mouse community broke down, and with it the ability of mice to form social bonds. The failures and dropouts congregated in large groups in the middle of the enclosure, their listless withdrawal occasionally interrupted by spasms and waves of pointless violence. The victims of these random attacks became attackers. Left on their own in nests subject to invasion, nursing females attacked
ascii_field: their own young. Procreation slumped, infant abandonment and mortality soared. Lone females retreated to isolated nesting boxes on penthouse levels. Other males, a group Calhoun termed “the beautiful ones,” never sought sex and never fought—they just ate, slept, and groomed, wrapped in narcissistic introspection.'
☟︎ trinque: mircea_popescu: when I became disillusioned with god and state, that involved a realization that I could feel towards myself any way I saw fit
trinque: my identity is as imagined as the god I used to believe in
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cazalla: logs were an interesting read this morning
cazalla: pete_dushenski, moxie and gpg discussion
pete_dushenski: sorta what kicked the whole thing off on twitter at least
assbot: I used to dream of a world where everyone would install GPG. Now I dream of a world where I can uninstall it:
http://t.co/eRZ0hdlmgx cazalla: yeah, i read the twitter discussion too
pete_dushenski: then again, i'd never heard of moxie until he decided to be a retard so i dunno if he really had that much cred to begin with. i assume he was small but not insignificant
cazalla: moxie is australian if memory serves
pete_dushenski: decimation:re: federal employees overpaid < I suspect the whole system operates as a net with a hole - all the talent get sucked in and immediately leaves, but the bottom suckers end up 'caught' << their getting caught is like a lottery winner getting caught
mike_c: he's done some cool stuff in the past. most famous (at least to me) for some ssl mitm stuff he built.
pete_dushenski: fortunate beasts are they who don't starve as nature intended
cazalla: unless i'm confusing him with someone else, i remember the name from an aussie forum 15 years back where one could learn to use a mcdonald's straw to get free phone calls from payphones.. amongst other things lol
pete_dushenski: mats:give it another four years and all the useful combat vets will have exited the service out of sheer disgust << to go work at sbux for schultzy ?
mats: the ones that aren't broke from carrying 70+ combat loads, sure.
pete_dushenski: shultz is on record as saying that he plans to hire 10k veterans in the next couple of years
mats: rest, civil service, fire & police depts, ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17398 @ 0.0004214 = 7.3315 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: i suppose there are less useful uses for us military training than caramel frappuccinos
mats: pff. 'triple canopy'.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37525 @ 0.0004243 = 15.9219 BTC [+] {2}
mats: working for a PMC is a sweet hustle. get into a NG SF group, take work leave, teach iraqis trig so they can do some basic artillery targeting.
mats: it'd be a holiday for me.
pete_dushenski: i can already see the beads and henna ink on the case design
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45202 @ 0.00041741 = 18.8678 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4648 @ 0.00041069 = 1.9089 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: You are blocked from following @moxie and viewing @moxie's Tweets. Learn more << LOL
pete_dushenski: i had a bunch of people who'd blocked me last i checked
danielpbarron: b-a is like the one place i'm allowed on the internet
pete_dushenski: to quote myself: "IRC, it being the first, biggest, bestest bastion of free-thinking men and all that"
pete_dushenski: it should definitely count towards lordship consideration
cazalla: yeah irc is the best, not sure why i left it so many years ago in favour of icq, msn messenger, steam chat treadmill
cazalla: only difference.. i swear there were more girls in #teenchat back in the 90s or at least more boys pretending to be girls
assbot: Hey /halophoenix, tip of the cap for mentioning GPG in your list of 'best file encryption tools'. Consider this an invite to bitcoin-assets.
pete_dushenski: cazalla being geeky isn't cool for girls anymore unless it involves a phablet
pete_dushenski: and quite despite the 'women in tech' lowering of barriers to entry
lobbes: 'faux-nerdism' is the rage nowadays
pete_dushenski: mya, big glasses, short skirts, the look, not the content
danielpbarron: the look isn't easy either -- need to use filters and camera angles that hide obesity and skin conditions
pete_dushenski: that's not easy ? there's like 1000 buzzfeed articles describing exactly how to do exactly that
pete_dushenski thinks this is how buzzfeed works, has only been to gawk at post-superbowl sharknanigans
pete_dushenski: cazalla re: kiddy porn: "Fortunately, the <del>hard hitting journalism</del> published by The Daily Mail" << doesn't parse with this part nixed
jurov: prolly with the "hard" left in
cazalla: yeah, couldn't think of another way to make it work so i left it as is, reader can replace it with whatever they so choose i guess
cazalla: half that report is just talking about bitcoin and drugs, not even cp
cazalla: my own personal rule of thumb - those who task themselves to combat cp are more likely to be producers/consumers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37400 @ 0.00041804 = 15.6347 BTC [+]
jurov: kako hasn't flushed the bash since feb 9
jurov: so i did.. ended up adding three pages... hes gonna kill me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00041472 = 2.0321 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: usual 30 bux a month << for 1 gbps ?! fuck me if that's even close to accurate.
pete_dushenski: fast enough for my needs, but they're not exactly giving it away
pete_dushenski: ascii_field:don't forget streaming audio from microphones chump voluntarily keeps in the house, car, etc << when it's already in your pocket...
mike_c: sold, i'll take 120 gbps for $120.
mike_c: insanity. qntra bids are over 0.0003? going to be the priciest share on mpex soon.
☟︎ assbot: Hey /halophoenix, tip of the cap for mentioning GPG in your list of 'best file encryption tools'. Consider this an invite to bitcoin-assets.
pete_dushenski: mike_c i'll sell you my qntra shares for 1 btc each. best price.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: depends very much on locale
pete_dushenski: "Morgan Stanley to Pay $2.6 Billion to Settle Mortgage Cases" << more usg tax collection
pete_dushenski: "thank you for carrying out our policy, here's the bill"
pete_dushenski: ascii_field just so i can have a ballpark feel for the numbers, let's say dc
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: mid-five-digits (usd) per mo., most likely
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: but keep in mind that data centre doesn't sell pipe alone
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Be aware that Henry is with a Gawker Media venture
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27779 @ 0.00041612 = 11.5594 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5779 @ 0.00041069 = 2.3734 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: hey, maybe we can recruit him for qntra after he does his 6 months
punkman: mircea_popescu: as a side note : secure comunication via gpg works as follows : << alt.anonymous.messages can also be useful
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15741 @ 0.00042433 = 6.6794 BTC [+]