jurov: you even had list of known disk geometries hardwired in bios
mircea_popescu: anwyay, you could rewrite your io.sys. this was trivial enough to do that brigther highschoolers did it to prank each other.
jurov: and i'm not sure it's actually intel fault...rather msft was utterly inept to use real mode emulation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48400 @ 0.00045902 = 22.2166 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: twas industry standard practice. years in 2 bytes, memory 20 bits... if you asked for more, got called idiot
jurov: we got there by piling chairs upon poor 8088. preserving binary compatibility for all costs worked for people involved
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6883 @ 0.00047099 = 3.2418 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: people easily forget that the "two byte year" comes from a time when they also had a 20 byte bus
mircea_popescu: "real mode", in the following sense : just like you have ints and floats, ie, reals, ie, two ints bundled together one playing mantissa
jurov: mircea_popescu stan is talking about pseudo-8088 memory space done by real mode segments
mircea_popescu: wait, is this the thing which ambiguously allocated a part of the pages
mircea_popescu: so you could read a portion in front from two diff places
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is this the real that was address-ambiguous, which is how 286 "protected" mode came about ?
mircea_popescu: jesus they had some incredible "mystery code" back then, cuz you never really knew what's being addressed how.
mircea_popescu: maybe 15yo me speaking through my voice. but what i recall was "o noes, memory mapping"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00045834 = 5.8209 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00045752 = 11.2092 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: found a cool app that teaches basic circuit building. (like gates and shit), i was wondering if you had any references to good exercises, in your vast library :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00046095 = 18.8068 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00046666 = 10.2199 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: romanian press : "wow, find out how much alina eremia makes working for romanian tv!!!" "alina eremia paid kingly-ly for role in tv!!!11" "find out here..." etc.
mircea_popescu: chick makes 1500 per show, 18k for the whole season, pre tax.
Vexual: still decent money, no?
Vexual: she ends up with a better resume
Vexual: I'm no expert, I suppose they're all stuying polotics and stuff
Vexual: is cazalla looking for an au pair? free rabbits
ben_vulpes: working on some testing automation to boot
ben_vulpes: no effect for me either with a wedged chain
ben_vulpes: recently restarted from zero with the db_config file
ben_vulpes is frustrated with the manual testing process
Vexual: I've sent my fair share of malformed tx
Vexual: yeah, i send em out from time to time
Vexual: yeah all I want to know id who ignores it
kakobrekla: next question is should we even be doing bitcoinwhatever on x86
kakobrekla: 'i once tought about bitcoin but then realized we cant build a computer'
kakobrekla: you think i can come up with such stuff myself?
mats_cd03: what is the origin of this 'power rangers' nick?
mats_cd03: earliest log reference is to mp. no context.
Vexual: lol wheres batman when you need him
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2014 03:30:35; asciilifeform: nitpick with pediwikia - the 'batman' in the epic is not wearing a 'batman' costume. he's a bloke who smashes heads with a baseball bat.
Vexual: yeah or he just goes and takes tuxs safe
Vexual: remember, this lady prolly get free handbags and parties
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 3634 @ 0.00435265 = 15.8175 BTC [-] {13}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in bucharest probably a one room studio and buttermilk.
mircea_popescu: but this "in romania" discussion is entirely besides the point, not like she can't just as well do it in switzerland or luxemburg or w/e.
mircea_popescu: <Vexual> I'm no expert, I suppose they're all stuying polotics and stuff << they totally are. about 3/4 of my class in college was actual hos.
mircea_popescu: dude that bitcoin-assets bash is like the best site on the interne.t
kakobrekla: idk in a sense putting 0.5.3 together is worse than x10. not only it might tell you there is bad air, you cant open the window anyway.
mircea_popescu: lol wait, im caught in my own web of confusing references. say wut ?
mircea_popescu: "The attacker would need to guess the source port of the origin since he only
mircea_popescu: sees the query from victims upstream DNS, but since systemd-resolved also uses fix
mircea_popescu: holy shit is there something that's done right in systemd?
Vexual: did you see that snl bit?
mircea_popescu: later in that thread, "(This systemd component is optional, I strongly recommend not to ship it. It's not even possible right now to dump the cache contents to debug such issues.)"
kakobrekla: are you going to ignore everything after 252450
mircea_popescu: why not just put it in journal binary files with the core dumps!!1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38000 @ 0.00047018 = 17.8668 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: in five years people will be asking me why they can't load qntra and instead of pointing to braindamaged "code is poetry" wordpress version 1-4, i'll point at braindamaged "code is poetry" wordpress versions 1-28, AND at systemd "hey, you can talk directly to the dns resolver, because it's on a fixed port, and the legit server can't even race you because it is standards compliant and waits while you rape the stack.
mircea_popescu: such bright future with the bright kids the fucktarded "progressive" generation spawned. they've tried and therefore nobody should criticize them! touch the screen now! Change the world! revolutionize the tubes! 2.0!
Vexual: audi is making it from air
Vexual: i add sulphur with wine
mircea_popescu: then 5 different names have to waste the time out of their day, come in and say yo fuckwits!
mircea_popescu: and the usg wins anwyay, for the exact reason spam works : those five people were tied up for the five minutes they took to write and the however many it took them to consider all the angles.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the attackers can just keep right on firing packets
mircea_popescu: and you know, talk abut "do-ocracy". the fake do-ocracy of they firing out syn packets and then closing the socket.
mircea_popescu: and so you know, to quote pankkake, "So, we'll see if the end-users actually want to commit resources on not using systemd."
mircea_popescu: right, those same resources that are drained away with crafted bullshit like this, a million different places.
mircea_popescu: because there is no punishment for the anon derp hiding behind "From: cve-assign () mitre org"
mircea_popescu: just like there's no punishment for the anon derp hiding behind "contributed a patch to openssh"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in any case, my original change to github and generally the mangement of open source codebase of "add a read by X" field is not actually enough.
undata hopes to see any of the things asciilifeform has described someday
mircea_popescu: there must also somehow be added in there a "no dependencies" rule, somehow.
mircea_popescu: "your program must work whether any or all the dependencies exist on the syste"
mircea_popescu: and a simple "not all dependencies found, exiting" is not good enough.
mircea_popescu: the fucking networking widget should instal and run without netbase, and do everything including populate the fucking fields and drawing the graphs.
mircea_popescu: right. but follow through = exactly what you'd expect, if redmond ran things.
undata: portage does a pretty good job of that
undata: as long as the maintainer bothered, and the package is configurable
undata: use flags are a bit of a blunt instrument, but they work
mircea_popescu: only if every router out there actually implements this scheduling
mircea_popescu: it WOULD give the old re-routability properties of the web a lot of value again.
mircea_popescu: ie, "are or are you not reachable through some node somewhere that doesn't think you're a total waste of biological matter."
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: what is the origin of this 'power rangers' nick? << hours after the fork gavin & hearn brought upon the network through their alleged ineptitude (which allegation i don't credit, it was deliberate)
undata: asciilifeform: where's your kyristor post? I want to re-read it.
mircea_popescu: the gushing hordes on reddit were so very impressed with how the idiots in question "fixed" the problem (through leveraging a 50%+1 attack against the blockchain, thourgh meanwhile discredited bircoin mining pools)
mircea_popescu: that they went all "o you dudes are like power rangers"!!!
undata: asciilifeform: you're about a mile over my head, but the n-axis WoT idea has had my brain churning since hearing about it
mircea_popescu: "I'm not sure this is getting through the fog of their own farts, but the group of power rangers has so far:
mircea_popescu: 1. Not produced one single brilliant solution to any actual problem.
mircea_popescu: 2. Stepped in a majority of the holes, landmines and caltrops available.
mircea_popescu: 1 is of particular concern, especially because it is so easily disprovable."
decimation: asciilifeform: I'm not sure you really need tcp at all if you have a crypto-wot
undata: asciilifeform: the crude idea I had previously was just trying to jam a WoT into the blockchain
decimation: why bother with the illusion of a private point-to-point connection if you can deploy a nice global namespace
decimation: I think mr. yarvin pointed to some internet elder figure who was hawking this idea (also urbit)
decimation: tcp really is pretty retarded if you think about
decimation: it violates the principle of "the highest protocol layer ought to control" (end-to-end argument)
mircea_popescu: decimation it's not retarded if you think of how fucking cheap it is.
mircea_popescu: think about that. think about the early days of bbs, which is how routing fucking got invented in the first placer
decimation: well, in elder days when the internet wasn't full of orcs it kinda seemed ok
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was five cents a minute yo! at the time a minute meant one page, or a gallon of gasoline.
decimation: the point is, IP provides an elegant many-to-many mapping of network nodes
mircea_popescu: if the average per-kb page of internet communication were one gallon of gasoline, i wouldn't have to explain to idiots why i don't want to see "webcasts" and why im in irc.
mircea_popescu: that most calls cost money, but plenty didn't, so optimized.
decimation: really, what the existing internet fails at is a decent multicast model
mircea_popescu: Vexual: remember, this lady prolly get free handbags and parties << not in romania, not really. she gets free $5 drinks. which... you know.
decimation: this too could be implemented with crypto-wot routers
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: no that wasnt the question << i guess time will tell no ?
Vexual: lol she might as well be cazallas au pair
mircea_popescu: decimation you sound like an adult man falling in love with a dirty young hussy.
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu no the question was did someone abuse the britneychain
☟︎☟︎ decimation: well, multicast might be a shortcoming in ip
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well we don't know yet and apparently won't know for a while, rigt ?
mircea_popescu: we (tm) don't think so, but we (tm) would very much like this cultish belief verified independently and scientifically.
kakobrekla: and if it did, what is one going to do about it. (my take is: nothing, continue to suck cock)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla sell out bitcoin, start new implementation.
kakobrekla: we do it anyway, lets not pretend on top.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i would just sell all my bitcoins, start a new chain.
assbot: Logged on 23-11-2014 04:53:31; asciilifeform: quite possibly this is ideal scenario. a hardfork that sane folks on the whole planet would immediately flee to.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla it's one thing to live in mud, it's another thing to live in excrement.
decimation: and it's another to do so without any imagining the possibility of an alternative
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.00046108 = 21.4863 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35201 @ 0.00045707 = 16.0893 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30471 @ 0.00045583 = 13.8896 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 21-11-2014 01:38:58; mircea_popescu: well anyway : two trains moving on the same track leave simultaneously 29 miles apart, one doing 5mph the other 7mp. a fly caugh between them flies straight until it reaches a train then turns back and recurses, doing 9mph.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00045903 = 5.2329 BTC [+] {2}
cascadian_derper: anyways, a question for the chan: "what disqualifies 053 and what criteria should be used to pick an 'angry' bitcoin?"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46900 @ 0.00045153 = 21.1768 BTC [-]
Vexual: schoolar ships is the hard way now?
Vexual: give me a fucking break
Vexual: back when i was a kid, if you wanted a virtual office you had to convince someone to do it
Vexual: talk about horse pulling the wagon
Vexual: here, have a lotto ticket
Vexual: older girls might ask me if im a virgin; "lady, it's 5 cents or fuck off"
Vexual: i didnt know what a virgin wasm hell i dont know what sex was
Vexual: i didnt even have a prize in mind, cheeky bitch
Vexual: she stole some crayons and stuff and the otto was a resounding success for year sto come
Vexual: now im watching cricket by myself and i wonder what exactly happened
Vexual: meanwhile .za is bowling at us like we're little girls and its working
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00045409 = 14.826 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00046106 = 14.2006 BTC [+] {2}
Azelphur: kakobrekla: moriarty is pm spamming, (I've also banned him from #bitcoin before), please eject :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4074 @ 0.00120015 = 4.8894 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15888 @ 0.00043803 = 6.9594 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36271 @ 0.00043437 = 15.755 BTC [-]
Azelphur: and for bonus points he's now joining other channels to harass me :P
Azelphur: when in doubt: engage stalker mode
Azelphur: this channel really needs more than 2 ops XD
mats_cd03: hes a funny guy. i made seven figures this year! etc.
mats_cd03: a dummy didn't include a tx fee, now funds are in limbo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00044975 = 13.0428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00044505 = 10.9482 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40711 @ 0.000411 = 16.7322 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34150 @ 0.00041222 = 14.0773 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00041222 = 8.533 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90950 @ 0.0004207 = 38.2627 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00042474 = 5.0969 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2000 @ 0.00121921 = 2.4384 BTC [+] {5}
adlai: can't a man lurk these days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00043784 = 7.9249 BTC [+]
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: can we have /mode +b *!*@unaffiliated/moriarty please, all he does is join here to pm spam and then leave :P
Azelphur: (11:24:09) moriarty: there's also ##econometrics given your interest in cryptocurrencies
Azelphur: he has a bot that does ^, I've already banned him in the past from #bitcoin, #bitcoin-otc, #bitcoin-otc-eu, -uk, ...
mircea_popescu: no, thank you for pasting the actual command, it'd have taken me a while to piece it together lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00042593 = 2.9815 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22187 @ 0.00045124 = 10.0117 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8631 @ 0.00043794 = 3.7799 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 20 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 8(Y):92(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 78.81502285 BTC. Current weight: 7,419.
assbot: BitBet - BTC to reach $5000 or higher in Q1 2015 :: 0.02 B (13%) on Yes, 0.14 B (87%) on No | closing in 4 months 6 days | weight: 89`455 (100`000 to 1) ... (
http://bit.ly/1FgHrLJ )
kakobrekla: interestingly > Bitcoin Winkdex price first digit will be a 1 or a 2 on May 1st 2015 < got rejected cause of windex
ben_vulpes: any chance of getting "rejected" in search status enumerator?
ben_vulpes: "Rejection reason: There's no way for a mod to find a suitable replacement for a random chance."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00043051 = 3.3149 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: aha someone tried to ddos ba wiki past night. tough luck.
assbot: CrAssphage: Previously Unknown Ancient Gut Virus Lives in Half World's Population | Biology | Sci-News.com ... (
http://bit.ly/1FgJqzx )
jurov: quite a food ofr thought
ben_vulpes: jurov: i can't imagine we've sequenced all virii inhabiting humans or even done a decent job at even the internal or external bacteriospheres
jurov: i just find it funny if eventually comes out of it that obesity is indeed infectious disease
ben_vulpes: i suspect certain diets encourage certain bugs that diddle the endocrine system horribly
ben_vulpes: but this is systems science in <not my domain>
ben_vulpes: why is it a better idea for bitcoin to write the blockchain to disk instead of into an external database?
jurov: not tried it, just fyi
ben_vulpes: "since it is file based, it requires no separate database setup for users" << i don't know about this.
ben_vulpes: bitcoin is serious business - perhaps a serious business database should be involved.
jurov: ^ toshi uses postgres
jurov: asking of anything to fit into head is a tall order
jurov: better start with fitness to ass
jurov: can be stretched if necessary
ben_vulpes: the thought that writing to disk requires explicit concurrency semantics (DB_CONFIG requiring lock numbers configured by trial-and-error) in c++ with bdb etc (would this be true of sqlite as well?) makes me think that talking to a professionally written database over a local socket wouldn't be such a bad idea.
ben_vulpes: but y'all know more than i on the topic.
jurov: satoshi must have said something on this matter
jurov: is there a way to search for it?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45050 @ 0.00043051 = 19.3945 BTC [-]
punkman: well if sqlite works for conformal, can use as cheatsheet
ben_vulpes: jurov: "the nakamoto institute" was working on an archive of the satoshi letters at one point. i don't know if they got anywhere with it.
punkman: I think there's more on sourceforge mailing lists
jurov: ;;google sql site:satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org
ben_vulpes: i think the question that i'm asking is: is an embedded db even a good idea?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70000 @ 0.00041742 = 29.2194 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: actually punch cards arent a bad idea after all
mircea_popescu: and as the expression goes, he who illuminates illuminates himself, so, lots of perhaps unknown material about yours truly as well.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70800 @ 0.00041465 = 29.3572 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: i was thinking it's funny how you keep popping in and out
mircea_popescu: nah, this is a well known defect of badly made login scripts
punkman: qntra too hard to ddos now, moving on to easier targets?
mircea_popescu: kid wants to matter. kid doesn't have to change for this, kid wants to matter AS HE IS!
mircea_popescu: on the positive side, the log's back to manageable size.
assbot: BitBet - BTC to reach $5000 or higher in Q1 2015 :: 0.02 B (13%) on Yes, 0.14 B (87%) on No | closing in 4 months 6 days | weight: 89`397 (100`000 to 1) ... (
http://bit.ly/1ut23bt )
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: "Rejection reason: There's no way for a mod to find a suitable replacement for a random chance." << how do you find a "reasonable substitution" for a bet that goes "x website will publish a number ending in 5"
mircea_popescu: jurov: quite a food ofr thought <<< it pains me to say, but it'd seem more food for shit than for thought.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: jurov: "the nakamoto institute" was working on an archive of the satoshi letters at one point. i don't know if they got anywhere with it. <<< not very far afaik. Pierre_Rochard << why not btw ? put krawsiz to some useful work!
assbot: In care ma ocup de futurologie in ce priveste trendurile cu rezultate inspaimintatoare in primul rind pentru mine. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1AD7e0B )
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: alas bitstein and krawisz are (hopefully temporarily) taken up with other ventures. Personally I think the SNI website is unfinished in its current state, but there’s only so much arm twisting I can do with friends
mircea_popescu: jus' trying to help, from my position as chief asshole this is easy.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
mats_cd03: wish they'd share some binaries, or smth
mircea_popescu: "The infection vector varies among targets and no reproducible vector had been found at the time of writing. Symantec believes that some targets may be tricked into visiting spoofed versions of well-known websites and the threat may be installed through a Web browser or by exploiting an application. On one computer, log files showed that Regin originated from Yahoo! Instant Messenger through an unconfirmed exploit."
mircea_popescu: so what, someone supposedly used yahoo messenger on linux ? via what,s omething like an emulator ? and then the infector survived this mauling ?
wyrdmantis: "Verified Pay for Performance Get paid, automatically; Smart Contracts verify you've performed by verifying proven results eg: SEO rank, automatically releasing the client's payment right away."
wyrdmantis: just found this thing... no idea if it's real or how it works...any thoughts?
undata: asciilifeform: Does A0 believe that "438967283478" is "539568763873582425356468"? << example of A0 lying?
jurov: yea, i had yahoo messenger. found interesting stuff under .wine then
jurov: it worked very badly, then i found some wine processes running with malware-y names, killed with fire
cazalla: so coindesk linked qntra lol
cazalla: but only the google cache as not to give full credit
cazalla: to be fair, perhaps site was down from ddos at the time it was written but still, amusing
xanthyos: BingoBoingo: Successfully changed key for user xanthyos from B62E7295387001E9 to DF074A8E1242692B. You are now authenticated for user xanthyos with key DF074A8E1242692B
xanthyos: NO LONGER A KEYbase boy, are you proud of me?
ben_vulpes: in other news the girl found an entire gallon of organic maple syrup
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00041 = 10.086 BTC [-]
assbot: linux - sshd with port forwarding left connections to localhost without counterparty process - Server Fault ... (
http://bit.ly/159RTbd )
jurov: my every productive day ends with such wtf stuff or a bugreport
jurov: it wears off, i can't even be properly paranoid anymore
joecool: opensshd version? and were you able to reproduce this anywhere else?
jurov: OpenSSH_6.2p2, OpenSSL 1.0.1j-fips 15 Oct 2014
jurov: not tried to reproduce, first time i see this
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2980 @ 0.00121941 = 3.6338 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00041 = 11.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00041831 = 17.3599 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00041831 = 7.2995 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00041894 = 4.2522 BTC [+]