assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.004839 = 0.1887 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00484 = 0.3098 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.00484 = 0.5324 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1190 @ 0.00484 = 5.7596 BTC [+]
moiety: its not march for you yet bingo!
BingoBoingo: moiety: How are you to know I'm not traveling?
moiety: because if you were travelling to my timezone, you shouldve told me
BingoBoingo: moiety: What about the african, ocean, or antarctic parts of the timezone?
jurov: and what about moon timezone?
BingoBoingo: I guess Maybe the Moon is UTC as well, but there's no people there to ask.
moiety: mircea actually posted that hif ages ago, i saved it because it's my whole being in a gif sadly
moiety: but yeah, hadn't thought about the other bits of the timezone
nubbins`: we have a clothesline full of 'em
moiety: as my cats are going to find out nubbins` !
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Do doges do time well enough to have that concept?
nubbins`: you're going to clip your cats? :(
moiety: i couldnt find any clips
kakobrekla: well, the did manage to get fake astronauts suits, so gotta give them some credit.
moiety: btw, what was the name of r3wt's exchange?
moiety: no ne has been daft enough to trade with him have they?
BingoBoingo: moiety: Well it was the only place to trade ATC on a website before Apocalyptic did his thing
mpexbot: jurov: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
jurov: ;;ticker --market btcavg
gribble: BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 539.89, Best ask: 544.21, Bid-ask spread: 4.32000, Last trade: 540.75, 24 hour volume: 53682.53, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 567.22
jurov: *crosses fingers and uses this as input*
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 135.0, vol: 0.00000000 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 541.15, vol: 24838.25261283 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 531.2, vol: 12183.12848 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 542.25444, vol: 15293.33238379 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 568.5, vol: 81.45490132 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 551.660382, vol: 7295.14400000 | Volume-weighted last average: 540.723991296
moiety: we'll be seeing gox staplers and sellotape dispensers on ebay soon
nubbins`: quick question, mpex signup fees are *not* distributed as mpoe dividends, correct?
nubbins`: SOMEBODY GIVE ME A FUCKING COMPUTER
gribble slaps nubbins` with a battered trout
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
kakobrekla: nubbins` how else would it have been a ponzi
nubbins` signs up twice so as to get best value for money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66495 @ 0.00086856 = 57.7549 BTC [+] {8}
moiety: why does gox even still have a value for btcusd?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00087135 = 8.4521 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: cause servers are paid until the end of the month
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11 = 0.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.10808001 = 0.5404 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.08264585 = 0.8265 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08366666 = 0.251 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: often, yes, but right now i'm just pasting links :D
moiety: lol sorry, just derping aloud
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 48 @ 0.00666667 = 0.32 BTC [+]
moiety: i wonder how they plan to buy natwest now then
moiety: santander were meant to but backed out. RBS picked up the tab but not for all branches. only some across scotland. now we have these stupid card readers and about 30 redirects to get to online banking
nubbins`: i actually read it today, don't often click links tho ;(
nubbins`: but yah, #46bn is like 85-90bn cad
nubbins`: roommates are spitting about how gross it is
kakobrekla: like the shit on the toilet from back in the day?
nubbins`: the shitter bought me a bag of potato chips and two cookies as an apology yesterday ;(
kakobrekla: did he say "i smeared it with that, you can now try it out yourself"
nubbins`: no details on the incident were released
moiety: aside from google image search, is there anything that i can search for a picture being wrongly used?
moiety: oh thanks very much :D thats fab
nubbins`: so i dropped my rpm challenge CDs off today at the record store, and they gave me a coupon for 15% off my next purchase!
nubbins`: i had to buy a spindle of cd-rs. felt really weird.
HeySteve: hmm, any news announcement yet?
nubbins`: not sure what i'm going to do with the other 48 of them
moiety: no joy with tineye but i will keep checking, thank you nubbins`
moiety: asciilifeform! did you see the molten metal 3D printer robot? and the one that can print a house in 24 hours? 3D printers aren't as good as lasers but they are still cool.
nubbins`: so after a quick google search led me to the wikipedia page about discordia, the story behind EFNet's name is suddenly funnier
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 278 @ 0.00484 = 1.3455 BTC [+]
HeySteve: discordia is a dark tower thing isn't it? what's that to do with EFNet?
nubbins`: among other things, it is indeed mentioned in the dark tower
nubbins`: discordia is the latin name of the greek goddess eris
nubbins`: who was the goddess of strife, chaos, and discord
moiety: asciilifeform: i was just looking it up. the laarman prototype from earlier in feb?
ozbot: MX3D printing - YouTube
nubbins`: the lel being that EFNet (eris-free network) got its name after its predecessor network delinked a server called irc.eris.<tld>
nubbins`: and with a name like that, how could it not!
ozbot: MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
moiety: it just looks so cool asciilifeform ... it's all exciting to me still lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67520 @ 0.0008656 = 58.4453 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 183179 @ 0.00084112 = 154.0755 BTC [-] {18}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.11 = 1.65 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: referral = each gets 5 rebate, the referrer and the referred.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29761 @ 0.00087236 = 25.9623 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: 1/3 of account has SELL disabled, do not buy
Bugpowder: well that's kinda annoying... Someone sold to 75000?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00488995 = 2.445 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 696 @ 0.0048934 = 3.4058 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1256 @ 0.00499775 = 6.2772 BTC [+] {5}
ozbot: Slum landlords pocketing social assistance money for rent - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
nubbins`: a slum landlord owns maybe half of the houses on my street
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.005 = 0.38 BTC [+] {4}
Duffer1: I mostly specify this as a parting fuck you broadside to the MtGox troop of idiots, who thought that perhaps if they re-do the original MtGox “hack” I may have trouble. It’s cute, I guess, in the sense of a bunch of ducks trying to work together to provoke waves that’ll sink a neighbouring battleship.
nubbins`: i once called this slumlord to inform him that i was getting the city to clean up the apartment's worth of possessions his workers dumped on the sidewalk, on his dime
nubbins`: halfway through the conversation he interrupts me with "what are you telling me for?", followed by a toilet flushing
nubbins`: had a good lel at that after i calmed down
nubbins`: well the next logical step would be oversight as to what the tenants spend their remaining money on
BingoBoingo: Wow, Bitcoin finally outgrew fiat exchanges
mircea_popescu: so basically the canadian government actually wants to run everything or what
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, the cbc wants that, but the government doesn't
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: This is so much more thrilling than last spring.
nubbins`: (incidentally, this is a provincial, not a federal, thing)
copumpkin: omg lord master mircea_popescu has decreed that the price be $500
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: so dividend gets paid March 3?
nubbins`: so a house gets bedbugs. the landlord fumigates at great expense. the dirtbags infest the place again. repeat ad infinitum.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed. SHit happend in spring. Then calms during the summer when schoolkids have too much time, a bit of drama happens in the fall, there is a bit of winter buildup, then SPRING
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I don't know! just commenting
nubbins`: alternately: a house gets bedbugs. the tenants fumigate at great expense. the bedbugs come back from the house next door. repeat ad infinitum.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0051 = 0.255 BTC [+]
nubbins`: well the problem is most of downtown is row houses, attached on both sides. generally fumigation doesn't do shit
BingoBoingo: Prolly expensive in Canada, but in canada everything is expensive.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo, everything but the drugs
mircea_popescu: (i've never fumigated anything. oddly enough, bedbugs etc do not exist in romania)
nubbins`: they didn't exist here either until the past couple years
mircea_popescu: welfare helps all bugs and cockroaches across the board
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: would you mind flushing another deposit before my laptop battery dies?
nubbins`: the other problem is that welfare tenants generally won't tell the landlord if the house is infested.
nubbins`: the only clues are a succession of stained mattresses and couches left on the sidewalk over a period of several weeks
mircea_popescu: nubbins` or anyone else anything else, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: i vividly recall this discussion between a veterinarian and a inner city md
mircea_popescu: vet : "well, it's easier to be an md, at least your patients can tell you wtf is wrong"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 44 @ 0.0055 = 0.242 BTC
nubbins`: animals don't just want a prescription for ritalin
nubbins`: people don't hide in cat carriers
ozbot: Vince Li's new freedoms outrage Manitoba MP Shelly Glover - Manitoba - CBC News
nubbins`: ^ this guy cut a man's head off on a greyhound bus
Bugpowder: whoops.. Finally read to the bottom.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess a guy's gotta have goals in life.
nubbins`: y'know, i feel like i'd enjoy nordic prison
nubbins`: burn down a church? here's a synthesizer!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.0007963 = 14.1741 BTC [-]
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
HeySteve: <nubbins`> ^ this guy cut a man's head off on a greyhound bus < I would be cranky too if I had to use public transport
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00086156 high: 0.00087256 low: 0.00075 volume: 1438116 btc: 1239.0294164 7 day: average: 0.00087156 high: 0.0008982 low: 0.00075 volume: 7049383 btc: 6143.97817607 30 day: average: 0.0008793 high: 0.00096 low: 0.00075 volume: 28915312 btc: 25425.2607003
nubbins`: they tried to market the bus here as "your own 40 foot limo", to much derision
nubbins`: generally people don't have to wait in the cold for an hour to get a limo, though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.0055 = 0.33 BTC
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i spent months going through the eastern us on greyhounds
ozbot: jonathan richman - you're crazy for taking the bus - YouTube
nubbins`: ^ relevant song, also very informative
moiety: nubbins`: bed bugs a) have nothing to do with the hygiene of a place and b) can hop to the house next door
nubbins`: moiety: that's where my fears come from, yep
moiety: not a building they cannot
mircea_popescu: and of course they have to do with the hygiene. what are oyu talking about ?
moiety: they like fuckin blood not dirt
mircea_popescu: moiety this may be true, but they do have migration patterns.
mircea_popescu: they're not like blood seeking missiles their entire lives.
moiety: no i can't see them migrating like geese their way door-to-door down a street though
mircea_popescu: (and if they didn't migrate, you'd have difficulty explaining how the fuck they even exist in the americas in the first place)
nubbins`: i share two walls with neighbours
moiety: sorry i thought thats what you meant when you said fromthe house next door
moiety: oh christ i didn't realise we were being literal as to entry points. i honestly don't think bedbugs use doors
nubbins`: moiety, they're not tall enough to reach the handle, for starters
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Because you live in an icy wasteland
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: shush, it's only icy for like 7 months.
moiety: maybe they could work together
moiety: yes! like the sheep from wallace and gromit
ozbot: Swiss Arms Classic Green rifle ban to be reviewed by government - Politics - CBC News
nubbins`: cbc is actually interesting today
BingoBoingo: I mean I don't trust bedbugs because they fuck by cesarean. Ticks though carry all kinds of nasty diseases and fumigating "The Great Outdoors" is difficult.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
nubbins`: there are actually relatively few things that can kill you here
nubbins`: aside from, y'know, the elements.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.0008 = 30.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.10800003 = 0.216 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There's quite a few other nastier diseases than lyme. Lyme just gets the press because pseudo-medicine makes better news.
moiety: my house is to be assessed for something called Legionnaires apparently.
nubbins`: there were a few big legionnaires outbreaks in canada the past couple years
nubbins`: something like 2 dozen people in an old folks home died in 2012 i think
moiety: is it very bad? they have to assess rented flats every two years by law my letter says
bitcoinpete: It's incredibly late here in bruxelles but I thought I'd leave my latest von blooog post for your casual readying enjoyment.
ozbot: Patience En Ville | When Bitcoin Met Pete
bitcoinpete: I'm off to bed, then I'll be in the logs as usual.
moiety: my bathroom is very clean, i will say that
nubbins`: charlie's in the trees, pete's in the logs
nubbins`: there's a dick surgery song where it's discussed that the details are also in the pudding
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00079865 = 31.7863 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+]
nubbins`: well. "song" is being generous
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38009 @ 0.00077761 = 29.5562 BTC [-] {2}
moiety: BingoBoingo: i decided what to do with my btc domain. im making a scottish item shop. not giving up on my stamping plan though
BingoBoingo: moiety: Yeah, much better than a decision where you have to stamp every product and in the process look like Rosie the Riveter. Being Bitcoin's source for Scottish shit sounds like something worth trying.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114260 @ 0.00075144 = 85.8595 BTC [-] {3}
moiety: lol actually... i hadnt thought of that.. "sorry your order is delayed.. i'm not very fit and i got tired making it"
MisterE: or is that a scouser thing?
nubbins`: somebody give me the elevator pitch on buttercoin.com
BingoBoingo: moiety: I though we touched on that problem when you presented the plan. Stamping metal with a hammer is tiring work
moiety: i thought it be ok because they were small things BingoBoingo btw there is people opening a dog cafe and a cat cafe in london. edinburgh seems to have none.....
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I can't find your key on my keyserver
copumpkin: I'm on a different computer and found I didn't have it in my list
moiety: omg i have it all planned out, we could totally do a bar. bingoboingo barman, asciilifeform doing the laser lights, nubbins` sorting pest control, bugpowder green flourescent protein glowsticks, benkay on music and mircea dancing girls!
nubbins`: as much as i'd like to move overseas to wield a can of raid
BingoBoingo: moiety: Honestly if you want to open a bar the best place to position your business in relation to me is one such that I am a customer.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0837 = 0.2511 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05150011 = 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
moiety: BingoBoingo: you're right, you can prop up the bar
moiety: ok, not paying you twice so will pay in alcohol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo maybe people dunno wtf boogaloo is supposed to be
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> as much as i'd like to move overseas to wield a can of raid << lmao
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I though the Internet was strong enough people know electric boogaloo's are sequels.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I keep getting unrecognized signature even though I'm using the same key I used to sign up :(
copumpkin: says to email you my key but I did that long long ago :P
mircea_popescu: copumpkin did you ever re-email it as per teh verification last year /
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11379998 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Really the point of Ukraine as of now isn't the end political outcome, as far as that bet is concerned. It's determining how overtly "Black Ops" can happen in a white people country before commandos have to have affiliations, because Geneva protocols and conventions and such.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I guess you have no way to contact me or even any knowledge of me having an account :P
ozbot: Beirut - Nantes - YouTube
mircea_popescu: copumpkin mpex may be the only entity in bitcoin which has gone two years without sending a single greatly informative and muchly important email blast.
copumpkin: only because you don't have my email!
copumpkin: should I just email you the key again?
copumpkin: (goes to show how active a user I am)
mircea_popescu: well technically you could extract some sort of email from gpg keys, but i never bothered to.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: office@polimedia? that's where the old one went
nubbins`: 'cause, y'know, it'd work or something
BingoBoingo: OMG copumpkin is selling his S.MPOE, sell first!!!
copumpkin: BingoBoingo: nah, trying to remember how much I have
copumpkin: I don't think I can even afford one bentley though
mircea_popescu: copumpkin anyone with s.mpoe stock should afford a bentley!
copumpkin: I don't think I bought enough of it back then
mircea_popescu: copumpkin bentleys are divisible, so you should at least get a few bentloshis.
copumpkin: but what keyserver can I find your keys on?
copumpkin: I want to encrypt my email to office but I can't find the key for it
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Still looking at the legal history of Illinois governors, being a n00b and being pissed about Gox because he was too good for warnings makes his Derping rather inconsequential in the history of embarassing things about Illinois
mircea_popescu: it's impossible to keep track of keyservers and i kind-of gave up.
mircea_popescu: they wanted to do the suit. it's clearly a zerocost thing.
nubbins`: best thing that ever happened to illinois was a sufjan stevens album
mircea_popescu: talking about how it's a "natural extension of their practice" and whatnot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.599 BTC [-]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: where would you say you fall on the political spectrum?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00509999 = 0.2805 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Eh, if it isn't Cueto and Cueto it isn't an Illinois enough case
mircea_popescu: "So, we don’t have to worry about Japanese laws and how they apply."
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I'm firmly in the "don't be an asshole" camp :)
copumpkin: I'm sure that's a huge surprise to you
mircea_popescu: hallo we are 12 and don't need to worry about our asshole.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 141 @ 0.0051 = 0.7191 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: obviously, as you'd imagine, my view is that the world is split among the assholes that admit it and the assholes that don't.
copumpkin: I actually don't entirely disagree
BingoBoingo: What is it with people trying to do anything in Illinois and not realizing you have to buy whatever jurisdiction you want to operate in, either outright or as a time-share
nubbins`: i made refried beans for the first time last week
nubbins`: i think i mentioned it at the time
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo maybe they has ? tbh the dumbledore lawyer guy sort-of evokes jackie chiles for me.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: do you have some sort of defense against replay attacks on mpex btw? what if I send a "sell X" command and someone sniffs it and sends it again?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0051 = 0.51 BTC [+]
nubbins`: it's too bad they're called that in english, because it's kind of a rotten name for a food
copumpkin: all I get for now is "unrecognized signature" :)
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if that's your ocmplaint what about tossed salad ?
nubbins`: as you can imagine, tossed salad brings jelly-covered anus to mind
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i finally clicked your link. DO THESE ATTORNEYS EVEN LEAFT!
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: will I get some sort of confirmation when the key is accepted?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: See, like the Groupons of the Illinois legal game
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: what's your opinion on the whole gox thing, think they'll get back up after a while? :P
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo does that page look as broken to you as it does to me or is it just a case of "our designer made it look good in chrome"
mircea_popescu: Azelphur you can freely trade mtgox debt for bitcoinica debt on a 1:1 parity
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: keybase.io, does that look like something you'd use?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They used some javascript in the layout it seems. Works ok in the factory firefox install, not in the useful firefox install though
Azelphur: I was a plonker and bought gox debt
mircea_popescu: copumpkin "Keybase will be a public directory of publicly auditable public keys. All paired, for convenience, with unique usernames."
mircea_popescu: "I graduated cum laude with a degree in philosophy from Brandeis University and received my J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School"
copumpkin: as far as I can tell, their goals are: 1) provide a standard mechanism to link online accounts in a crpytographically secure way that doesn't require trust of their servers 2) make gpg more user-friendly
mircea_popescu: dude brandeis is where the mass governor's escorts go to school.
copumpkin: so they have a website that lets you link online profiles and a command-line tool that talks to the site and calls gpg
copumpkin: ultimately, they're mostly a fancier keyserver
Azelphur: I'm 97 BTC deep in gox, bought at ~0.14 (so 15 BTC)
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I dunno, they're pretty, and seem to provide some nice identity linkage stuff that seems handy. Otherwise, not much point :)
copumpkin: mostly because I want more people to use gpg
mircea_popescu: so basically what, they scrape social media sites for snippets signed by x sig ? a la gribble except spammier ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.0051 = 0.1683 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't personally use it because i don't actually use any social media sites.
mircea_popescu: except i guess twitter but i don't really gas if x is y or not there
kakobrekla: goes to twitter to tell the world, "i dun use social meddia situes"
nubbins`: so how do you know who's going to trivia night on tuesday?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
copumpkin: I bet you're paying someone to type these messages right now, while someone else is giving you a rusty trombone
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well Twitter's upside is that you can school someone in front of their internet friends and make their internet friends wonder why they associated in the first place.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i mostly use it because it's full of derps of the "holier than thou" school of assholery.
gesell1: BingoBoingo mircea_popescu I may go knock on Jay's door on monday
mircea_popescu: but anyway, one day when i'm rich i'll splurge and get myself a smartphone
mircea_popescu: and then the whole universe of social media sites will lay open before me
MisterE: I'm in front of a computer enough
copumpkin: I have a smartphone but I hate using it
gesell1: BingoBoingo: the lawyer you linked too
copumpkin: iphone4, so slow it's too unpleasant to use
nubbins`: copumpkin: there's an easy solution there ;p
copumpkin: I made the mistake of installing ios7
MisterE: I look around me and everyone's face is buried in their phones I think its sad
gesell1: mircea_popescu: i have no idea. does he need to be?
nubbins`: copumpkin, generally it's less of a good idea to update ios after new hardware comes out.
BingoBoingo: gesell1: Ah, that one. I just prefer the lower parts of the state.
mircea_popescu: MisterE ikr? at least they could have the decency to get the salmon colored models.
copumpkin: nubbins`: yeah yeah, but they don't let us downgrade, so oh well :)
nubbins`: aren't you glad you bought in?
mircea_popescu: gesell1 yes, it usually helps if the lawyer putting together a cas is smart.
MisterE: my GF's iP 4 runs iOS 7 fine
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is why I only use lawyers with Drive throughs.
copumpkin: MisterE: I hear it gets better with the latest 7.* update where you can disable effects
gesell1: well so i will find out monday
MisterE: I dunno it's the GFs and I dont go there
MisterE: last thing I want is to support her phone
gesell1: is there a problem if I pursue mtgox from 3 different lawyers at once?
MisterE: talk abotu throwing good money after bad
mircea_popescu: MisterE i'd be much surprised if the lawyer charges anything.
gesell1: MisterE: no im just in the initial stages of contacting each and every collective that is gathering to sue
kakobrekla: i would not even consider iphone using female fyi.
mircea_popescu: he's in it for positioning, which is strategically sound
MisterE: oh, I doubt there will be anything of value left for creditors
MisterE: but if there is you can be sure lawyers will get theirs
gesell1: mircea_popescu: over 100btc
kakobrekla: you gonna lose more coins suing than gain
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Around here most lawyers handling those sorts of complaints work on contingency, so they only get paid if they win
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the way the legal profession works in the us is that sometimes lawyers take cases for free, when they figure the bread is buttered on the other side.
nubbins`: sort of like a mortgage advisor
nubbins`: where free = a portion of your mortgage
kakobrekla: the only way out of here is bernankecoin the way i see it.
gesell1: pitty, i could find no bernankecoin
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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the lawyer wants bitcoin fame. that's free to him, as he has no cases anyway.
mircea_popescu: a noob lawyer with a shitty jd and no connection is basically equally qualified as a plumber.
kakobrekla: so they are not really getting paid as you said but whoreing out
mircea_popescu: and if he actually manages to get some dough from tibanne, all the better.
nubbins`: gesell1, it's called bernankoin i think
mircea_popescu: judging by the school he went to, he's being supported by either generous parents or generous husband.
BingoBoingo: I dunno of any person in Illinois who while certified as a plummer and holding a JD would pratice law over practicing plumbing
gesell1: mircea_popescu: at the moment there appears to be only a few places to go. or only a few lawyers persuing the issue
mircea_popescu: anyway : their top claim to fame is that they settled an amazon cas for ~150k
KRS-One: I have a friend who is a roofer who makes as much as an attorney and then some.
KRS-One: he does the easy shit and runs a crew
mircea_popescu: (they also represented the Blagojevich dood. also for free, also to no particular effect)
BingoBoingo: I really don't understand the point of retaining an unconnected lawyer
nubbins`: that said, his body will be wrecked by the time he's 45
nubbins`: and he'll be taking orders from a guy ten years his junior
moiety: is it just me or does that lawyer dude look a wee bit like simon cowel?
gesell1: i assumed/hoped that the class action litigation that gets the most attention from the community will wind up with the most resources to devote to getting possible results
KRS-One: nubbins` you aint kiddin..except he's the business owner
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm the other end of the state.
KRS-One: he is real dumb and needs me to get a roofing license (take exams and shit) said I can make $100K/yr without doing a thing just holding the license.
mircea_popescu: gesell1 i think you grossly misrepresent the substance of the sort of clueless idiots that still; had btc on gox.
mircea_popescu: it's hardly a community and it definitely has no resources.
KRS-One: i have to speak to an attorney to see what kind of liability it opens me up to..supposedly i can do it with no risk or liability.
gesell1: mircea_popescu: there were $40m worth of BTC waiting on Gox on one reddit comment thread alone. that could create resources
KRS-One: nubbins`: he has been using his dad's general contractor's license but his dad is real old now and wont be doing it much longer
BingoBoingo: KRS-One: In the US the only thing you can acquire with a license is risk and liability
KRS-One: so bam this might be nice coin
KRS-One: BingoBoingo: i know I am skeptical
mircea_popescu: “Since we’ve been sitting here on the phone, I’ve seen three emails come in.”
KRS-One: it nice to know a roofer..i got a new roof put on my house for real cheap, just labor and materials.
moiety: this is why its good to know a mechanic too
KRS-One: took forever to get him to do it tho
KRS-One: moiety: yep. marine and diesel mechanics make most i think
KRS-One: i was stupid. i went to college.
nubbins`: i had my roof redone last summer
BingoBoingo: Well, the boring olf gasoline car mechanic that fixed the mess I made trying to fix that saturn made decent money for his time.
nubbins`: "know what'd be a good idea? if none of this shit was right angles"
moiety: i think my roof might fall off. i saw slates outside on the ground
BingoBoingo: moiety: You and your fancy european roofs. Here shingles are made out of asphalt and cat litter
moiety: I'm scared to see your homes....
BingoBoingo: detsord would never work with the weather here.
nubbins`: my home is quaint, but only because of the lack of detcord and kitty litter
moiety: did you guys see the £150 house that gets rented out for milk?
BingoBoingo: No, but I've considered buying a block of $200 houses in detroit and starting a farm
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well detcord would make your house move somewhere else then
KRS-One: mircea_popescu: depending on the roof, the shingles arent what keeps the water out. main protection for a roof comes from the tar paper that covers the wood. shingles only keep the sun from runing the tar paper.
KRS-One: if it werent for the sun and other things you dont even need shingles.
mircea_popescu: KRS-One that may be generallky true, but i come from transylvania, which invented wood shingle roofing.
moiety: mircea_popescu: it doesn't specify.......
BingoBoingo: KRS-One: Most of the world operates on the assumption shingles move the water
KRS-One: thats what i have, wood shingle..cedar. Its one of the best you can get.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: you'd need to truck in soil
ozbot: Biserica de lemn din Cizer - Wikipedia
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KRS-One: the BEST ROOF: flat deck (gravel)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Or to many other places. The most recent local tornado didn't come within a mile, but other weird wind anamolies still had things impacting the roof in interestng ways
KRS-One: thats really neat to have history behind your home.
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nubbins`: the top of my roof is tar pitch
KRS-One: i dont know what tar pitch is
BingoBoingo: Maybe I should get the next roof done in pitchblend!!!
nubbins`: they use a flamethrower to melt coal tar all over it
moiety: mircea_popescu: that's so cute. it just needs broadband and its perfect!
nubbins`: sandwiched with layers of tar paper
nubbins`: prolly the same thing you're thinking of
KRS-One: thats the best type of roof to have..many commercial buildings have that
nubbins`: as long as you have any amount of summer
KRS-One: i've heard horror stories where roofers fell off and into the hot kettle of tar
nubbins`: popular for the row houses here, most of which have flat roofs
KRS-One: a popular one here in Florida are concrete shingle..i did some roofing when i was younger..talk about hard work.
KRS-One: gets so hot on the roof tops you can get burned by just picking up your hammer on the metal side
KRS-One: you have to be a tough bastard to work in roofing year round..i think doing concrete work was actually easier.
KRS-One: i did both for a while..they both sucked.
KRS-One: those jobs were my main motivator for going to college.
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nubbins`: re: russian cargo planes landing in crimea
nubbins`: "Astakhov said the people in the planes refused to identify themselves and waved off customs officials, saying they didn't require their services."
ozbot: The Last Psychiatrist: You Are The 98%
mircea_popescu: "We need a third party!" Come on, do you think the media will allow you to have a third party? John Anderson, Ross Perot, Ralph Nader-- they let them through to "show" third party candidates aren't any more serious than Howard Stern when he ran for governor. Poor Ron Paul pulls in more people than porn but he can't get a break, sorry buddy, 100 years too late for your kind. There's a difference between what you ne
mircea_popescu: ed and what you want, and the media will always, relentlessly give you what you want. Do you know why you have such poor candidates every single election? Because you want them, you want someone you can easily judge for some sexual indiscretion or because they called latinos chicanos. "Well, that matters to us!" Then you got what you asked for.
nubbins`: it's funny to you because you're rich ;D
nubbins`: you don't think the people shouting over each other at general assemblies were assholes?!
mircea_popescu: and idiots aren't really assholes, they're just idiots.
mircea_popescu: like you know, a rock falling down a cliff isn't a car.
nubbins`: what next, my lips and anus aren't a hot dog?
mircea_popescu: i wonder if hot chick lips and anus hot-dogs are a delicacy in china.
BingoBoingo: Eh, seriously Russia being in Crimea is not interesting at all. The only interesting point is how long they can go without commiting regular forces to the endeavor.
nubbins`: anecdote: a friend was approached by a young (~13yo) girl asking for a cigarette. friend says "you're too young to smoke"
nubbins`: girl says "lick my salty piss-flaps"
mircea_popescu: decimation pounds and euro ? i already got a euro future and what are these pounds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00078944 = 19.3413 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: he's seen the future and he wants in on bitcoin
BingoBoingo: Eh, when people too young ask me for cigarettes I usually tell them I have cancer and ask them if they really want a cigarette.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the obvious response was to offer the whole pack for a bj
BingoBoingo: Anymore a bj is cheaper than a pack of smokes
mircea_popescu: i kind-of wonder how long reddit will take to digest teh latest mpoe release.
decimation: yeah he's a hardcore goldbug and tries to cash in on that audience
decimation: but he also appears to be interested in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: im still looking for someone to run a delivered gold future.
decimation: yeah it seems that this netagio is a spinoff of some kind. I'm surprised that he or his staff hasn't contacted you
decimation: I think they are building a good foundation before going big, unlike some out there...
mircea_popescu: on a lark i'd venture a guess that <1% of irl businesses have a truely global internet listening program going.
mircea_popescu: it'd be certainly within what they can afford, financially
mircea_popescu: sadly, it's not within what they can afford intellectually.
decimation: Oh no, they spend $$$ on facebook monitors
decimation: but that's not listening to anything...
mircea_popescu: decimation i suppose it's like with everything else, blow the website budget on css.
mircea_popescu: incidentally i suppose you've stumbled on a perfectly valid business model, the translators among WoTs will be tomorrow's lawyers.
decimation: well, each big corp has a WoT that generally consists of the CEO's drinking buddies
decimation: it's surprising that the internet hasn't linked those WoTs...
BingoBoingo: Bonus, it pisses off the liberal arts majors because they can only translate wrong languages
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, most of the power women have in western society comes strictly from that bridging role.
mircea_popescu: it's not the unshaven idiots blathering on tv about "Rights" and other stuff that do anything.
decimation: most effective female 'leaders' I have seen are school-marm types who know how to connect the right people and step away
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mircea_popescu: but about 1bn dollars spent on "women in tech"-esque programs dedicated to highschooler girls would return about the same net value for the cause as about 600k spent on "fuck as many powerful people as you possibly can take, as well as you possibly can, starting today." programs for the same.
mircea_popescu: and one of the best indications that this is actually the correct approach would be that the impotent-by-design feminist movement will readily recognise it as the ultimate evil.
moiety: you make it sound like you cant do anything as a girl without opening your legs :(
decimation: well, you can call them "finishing schools", like they used to have
mircea_popescu: moiety you can do plenty of things that ultimately won't matter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not in copumpkin's retelling. i was giving him space to see if he mentiones it.
decimation: maybe you can host your key in a vps with a web login
moiety: not much point in trying anything if it ultimately doesn't matter
decimation: it's an example of a real-life WoT between silicon valley CEOs
decimation: "Bill Campbell (Chairman of Intuit Board of Directors, Co-Lead Director of Apple, and advisor to Google) was also involved in the Google-Intel agreement, as reflected in an email exchange from 2006 in which Bill Campbell agreed with Jonathan Rosenberg (Google Advisor to the Office of CEO and former Senior Vice President of Product Management) that Google should call [Intel CEO] Paul Otellini before making an offer to an Intel employee,
decimation: regardless of whether the Intel employee first approached Google."
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decimation: shockingly thousands of beta engineers are willing to accept what they are given
mircea_popescu: the irony here being that an industry;s stability can be best measured by the wot divergence (well really, by wot graph isolation)
mircea_popescu: once gaps get bridged "industry best practices" develop,
mircea_popescu: and the thing is going down in flames faster than people can ditch it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.05130001 = 0.2565 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.08330021 = 0.4165 BTC [+] {4}
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decimation: of course the leftists are having a fit because this particular WoT ignores thier votes
mircea_popescu: in fact, wots are not only different from votes, but really much better
nubbins`: <moiety> not much point in trying anything if it ultimately doesn't matter <<< "No, Donny, these men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of."
mircea_popescu: talk about bitcoin-mediated disruption of the electroal system
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ozbot: Knightscope’s new robotic law enforcer is like staring at the demise of humanity | PandoDaily
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
decimation: Oh, I was hoping someone was going to make a real RoboCop
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In a twist confounding most authors of robot oppressor scifi the boards with critical operational components in the bots are varied from unit to unit.
mircea_popescu: i can't begin to imagine how they figure this thing has a fucking chance.
decimation: yeah they are going to end up in a chop shop in the ghetto within 10 minutes of operation
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Remember the Russia-Georgia conflict... GPS can go dark
ozbot: Electronic Weapons: Making The World Unsafe For GPS Jammers
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more's the point... they can't make supermarket carts with working wheels
nubbins`: Crime has a $1 trillion impact on the American economy, according to Santana Li. “If we can show that we can literally cut that in half, we’re going to have every mayor in the country calling us,” he says.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: All reasons why civ security bots will bow down to people with compasses, maps, and lasers
mircea_popescu: andthey're going to somehow make a 100kg self moving robot
nubbins`: soooo, it's equipped with a sword?
decimation: it's not fair to have a WoT of robots that ignore the votes of the disenfranchised
BingoBoingo: Well, if pepper spray counteracts rapists, spraypaint counteracts robots.
ozbot: RObotzi.S03.Ep13.Sugstanta - YouTube
moiety: <mircea_popescu> "work in pairs to protect each other"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well simple solution is allowing a slug of metal to meet a satellite
mircea_popescu: gaddafi definitely coud have afforded to plug a satelite.
mircea_popescu: old age does that. back when he was still sane everyone put up with him. including rice.
mircea_popescu: (who, if anyone forgot, he propositioned quite openly for a spot in his harem)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well consider that the payload necessary to neutralize a GPS satellite can probably be measured in a single digit number of grams. Even many "tactical" missiles if stripped for the locker room could prolly do the job.
nubbins`: when rice visited bolivia, they gave her a guitar with a coca leaf lacquered onto it
decimation: hey did you guys behind the iron curtain watch Krtek the mole when you were little?
decimation: the videos are widely available in the us but no one knows about it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If only hypercard was still a thing
ozbot: Melvins - 'Nude With Boots' (Full Album HD) - YouTube
nubbins`: ^ named after a picture mp linked once
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Why. The SE/30 is dead, but I still have a flock of MacClassics
decimation: ascii did you even find a passable lisp machine emulator
BingoBoingo: And once I care enough to fix the SE/30 it will be a thing again
BingoBoingo: One of my regrets though is not picking up an Apple IIGS, because that looks like that could have lead to incredible fun
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decimation: okay I might to some dumpster-diving to find the thing
ozbot: Symbolics Open Genera 2.0 for Alpha - complete package with Lisp (download torrent) - TPB
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BingoBoingo: DEC Alpha, least depreciating hardware investment ever
decimation: he probably thinks it's his ticket to get rich
mircea_popescu: logs no longer suck! all hail kakobrekla, fixer of sucks.
ozbot: Retrocomputing - MIT CADR Lisp Machines
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decimation: so reading your blog, it seems that MIT eventually went to Scheme to teach young EE's how to code microcontrollers
decimation: yeah I saw that, but presumably before that someone decided scheme was the way to go
ozbot: Why Did M.I.T. Switch from Scheme to Python? | Lambda the Ultimate
nubbins`: sorry man, king-size bed, only room for two ;)
decimation: more evidence of the surrender of original thinking to academic bureaucracy
BingoBoingo: Let us all cook pasta noodles in a pressure cooker for 7 minutes, there must be NO better way to make glue!!!
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decimation: you also inspired me to look more closely into Forth
decimation: that is a beautiful language for microcontrollers
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mike_c: R.I.P. mpoe-bot... at least you went out with a bang.
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ozbot: No, it’s not the revenue. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.021399 = 0.214 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.0008377 = 3.1833 BTC [+]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.10193047 BTC [-]
cazalla: first time creating a bet, why does the bet list me as having bet twice for a larger amount?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 212 @ 0.00559937 = 1.1871 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.0002 = 0.4 BTC [+]
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cazalla: KRS-One does someone else kick in the pad the bet when they are approved?
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 19 @ 0.0056099 = 0.1066 BTC [-]
FabianB: ;;ticker --currency eur --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCEUR last: 95.89175, vol: 0.00000000 | Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 405.35775, vol: 25090.63405584 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 399.99999, vol: 277.45636 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 406.1655, vol: 6636.95400000 | Volume-weighted last average: 405.478807636
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00050159 = 0.7524 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.08386884 = 2.0967 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 34 @ 0.10595585 = 3.6025 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.05050525 = 1.0101 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 24 @ 0.13311598 = 3.1948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.0008745 = 27.0221 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.08325 = 0.999 BTC [-] {6}
ozbot: Obama warns Russia over Ukraine intervention - Europe - Al Jazeera English
ThickAsThieves: something about "warns Russia" bothers me... this isn't a 3rd world country he's warning
ThickAsThieves: Options include skipping a G8 summit planned for this summer in Sochi, Russia, as well as trade limitations "and putting some commerce deals on hold," Al Jazeera's Jordan reports.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00555021 = 0.3053 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.13311598 = 6.6558 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.000868 = 15.19 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell copumpkin your pubkey is unusable for some sort of reason.
ozbot: Bitcoin's Warren Buffet makes 8k BTC profit in February, halts options trading because of the lack o
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.0008702 = 16.1857 BTC [+]
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00083806 high: 0.00087478 low: 0.000745 volume: 1421928 btc: 1191.6611664 7 day: average: 0.0008666 high: 0.0008982 low: 0.000745 volume: 7508070 btc: 6506.4808497 30 day: average: 0.00087779 high: 0.00096 low: 0.000745 volume: 29347907 btc: 25761.1538897
nubbins`: fairly eye-catching as far as headlines go though, hey?
mircea_popescu: i'll bet you 1k atcs it never gets over 10 positive vote differeential.
nubbins`: i'll take that bet once i get around to generating an actual address that starts with 1AltcoinSucksCocks
mircea_popescu: what altscamcoin of your choice would you take instead ?
nubbins`: ah, they're all the same. does a horse prefer one gopher hole over another?
nubbins`: well i'm still heavily exposed in both fiat and btc, so not quite
nubbins`: i do accept canadian tire money, but it's harder to find in yurop
ozbot: Canadian Tire money - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
nubbins`: not unheard-of to find private businesses that accept it
nubbins`: the quintessential canadian scrip
nubbins`: because CT isn't as brave as they'd like to be
mircea_popescu: The coupon rate earned was initially 5% of the eligible purchase price but was subsequently lowered to 3%, then to 1.4%, and now is 0.4%.
nubbins`: not unusual to find yourself in the lineup at canadian tire, stuck behind some asshole buying a snowblower with canadian tire money
nubbins`: do you know how long it takes to count out nine hundred dollars in 10 cent bills?!
nubbins`: i often wondered why south korea hasn't revalued their currency
nubbins`: no subunits; everything is "won", with 1000 won ~= $1
mircea_popescu: more than the value per se, romania is still to this day a cash economy.
mircea_popescu: i have never used a plastic card to pay for any purchase during my entire stay here.
nubbins`: sk too, at least until mobile phone payments started around 2007
nubbins`: it's unusual for canadians to carry any amount of cash
mircea_popescu: carry fifteen hundred dolla in cash and fifteen hundred dolla worth of gun
nubbins`: i should get a firearms license
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5801 BTC [-]
nubbins`: lel, first comment on that reddit post
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09738672 = 0.1948 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: mircea_popescu: when a bet i created is added to the site, why does it show duplicate bets coming from my address?
cazalla: guess i should pay more attention next time :)
nubbins`: cohen is fucking amazing, ever read him?
nubbins`: the music is great, but the poetry...!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00560989 = 0.2356 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nubbins` aaand it's burried. you couldn't tell them if you wanted to.
mircea_popescu: wao-ender we're having this little private war, had for a while. mp versus the idiots.
mircea_popescu: the idiots are currently getting reamed with fireworks.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: Reamed
mircea_popescu: (you know you're going on the list of accessories for that prosecution, right ?)
mircea_popescu: better spend the 30% left of those savings and anything you can borrow to retain counsel now, before the freeze orders start raining down.
mircea_popescu: you'll need all the help you can get propping up the "ignorant idiot without a clue" defense.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.050505 = 0.5051 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 11 @ 0.13311598 = 1.4643 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: so BFL never shipped those pci boards that were guaranteed for xmas deliver?
ozbot: Live Blogging Berkshire’s Earnings & Buffett’s Annual Letter - MoneyBeat - WSJ
ThickAsThieves: "Berkshire’s gain in net worth during 2013 was $34.2 billion"
ThickAsThieves: not sure i know how to read it right, but i see $74.3t in a lot of places
mircea_popescu: (ie, what position they could take counting all leverage)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00086739 = 8.0667 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: Total current assets ..................... 25,035 (in mils)
ThickAsThieves: how will they fair when he dies? "Next year’s letter will review our 50 years at Berkshire and speculate a bit about the next 50. In the meantime, come to Omaha on May 3rd and enjoy our Woodstock for Capitalists."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.00085581 = 0.1284 BTC [-] {4}
wao-ender: BingoBoingo: Ukranian Deputies Threaten to Restart Nuclear Weapons Program in Response to Russian Support for Crimea Separatists
ThickAsThieves: worst headline i've seen from Al Jazeera: Israel shoots dead woman near Gaza border
ThickAsThieves: lol the Mastercoin currency exchange is called Masterchest
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20384 @ 0.00086974 = 17.7288 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: Under that plan, Cyprus must privatize its ports, telecoms and electricity companies to raise up to 1.4 billion and pay down debt by 2018. Centre and left wing parties rejected the privatization scheme.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 120 @ 0.07415382 = 8.8985 BTC [-] {16}
mircea_popescu: the only chip cyprus has at any table is the ports and telecoms
ThickAsThieves: parliament split 25-25 on the vote, with five abstentions
mircea_popescu: lmao @55 seat parliament. i imagine their senate is not large enough to supply players for a tournament of bridge.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.13569717 = 0.4071 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00086581 = 5.0217 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00555021 = 0.2498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11264 @ 0.00086993 = 9.7989 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: well the truth is... the russians could never afford to lose that.
FabianB: so OIX and MPBOR is suspended for the time being
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00087076 = 7.2604 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1879 @ 0.00019998 = 0.3758 BTC [+] {4}
davout: FabianB: looks like it
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, a belated birthday gift
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that strategy worked in the past so well for so many now famous venues
mircea_popescu: i mean each year there are at least >9000 various start-ups, whether on broadway, off broadway, off-off broadway etc that try it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.13311598 = 1.3312 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: back when the us was still a sovereign, it promised (together with russia) to defend the ukrainian border if ukraina agrees to dismantle nukes.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile russia is still a sovereign, but the us is not sovereign anymore.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
nubbins`: "that depends on what your definition of 'defend' is"
ozbot: Publishers Withdraw More than 120 Gibberish Science and Engineering Papers - Scientific American
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05099 = 0.102 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.0056 = 0.168 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.0056 = 0.1512 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: there's one guy out there that's like, Wait I was serious! I'm not a machine!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4748 @ 0.00087076 = 4.1344 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00560987 = 0.1963 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "The quantum droplet is made up of roughly five electrons and five holes. It possesses some characteristics of a liquid, like having ripples, the scientists said."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.0056 = 0.6776 BTC [-]
ozbot: Twitter / CBCWam: Look at all the brand new CDS ...
nubbins`: that's one of our albums (atelier bleu!) on top of the pile :D
nubbins`: shoulda put dick surgery on top.
ThickAsThieves: "Just noticed my TOR wallet emptied a couple of days ago"
nubbins`: so we got our enormous-carbon-footprint 6.25% organic tank tops in for the yoga studio (eco-friendly!)
nubbins`: they don't even say "organic" on the label, anywhere
ThickAsThieves: i was at an event last night where the speaker told the crowd to only eat orgasmic veggies
nubbins`: what sort of deviant would eat a banana peel ;(
ThickAsThieves: but to you'd have to "fruit" "loosely" if using a cucumber
mircea_popescu: can someone link me to the log where i rant about how if someone had an idea they didn't have an idea until someone in power says so ?
mircea_popescu: i can't remember what the fuck exactly i said and so i can't grep too efficiently.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think it was around that discussion, but not exactly.
mircea_popescu: i was ranting at either tat or thestringpuller i think
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00544066 = 0.7508 BTC [-] {6}
nubbins`: mp, ever read any Federico Garcia Lorca? was reminded of him earlier
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 318 @ 0.00050177 = 0.1596 BTC [+] {7}
nubbins`: cohen named his daughter after him
nubbins`: always meant to pick some up, never quite got around to it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05055 = 0.1011 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.05003136 = 0.8005 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: Jan 25 16:40:13 <mircea_popescu>we're not equal, even if we can type the same strings in a box they still aren't the same strings. depends whose name signs on them. we're not equal, even if two people have "the same idea", in one head it's an idea, in another head it's nothing.
mircea_popescu: it was worth having it searched for. look at that beauty.
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: basically me having an explosion over kids putting themselves in the whoodchipper
ThickAsThieves: fukn shit ... 19 AM shares lost in error on my last week. Grrr
mircea_popescu: the kids are playing the ceo, the woodchipper is chipping away
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00559998 = 0.2464 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00559998 = 0.196 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [+]
nubbins`: or is that too stiff? ton troll if you prefer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23885 @ 0.00086496 = 20.6596 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: also this is for an article im about to write so you'll see what i want to say by it presently.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> wait his name is MonTroll <<< inigo montrollya
ThickAsThieves: does the section with the graph basically imply that as you made efforts to CYA on those purchased Puts, the influenced caused a ripple that dropped the exchange rate all around?
Namworld: Montroll is an actual family name tho
mircea_popescu: kind-of the point of that article, if you read between the... lines
mircea_popescu: o no wait. not of that article. of some other article.
ThickAsThieves: so a further implication might be, don;t bet too hard against mircea or he'll just move the goal posts?
mircea_popescu: either that or don't fucking read too deep into what mp says and go all fucking nuts just because he has to cover 10k
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00569989 = 0.285 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i would say it's becoming a major problem now that people keep trying to outmaneuver me intellectually, and whereas i'm very blunt, they ascribe wallstreet-esque depths of trachery to what i do
mircea_popescu: the result being ocasionally incontrollable deflagrations
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.00559998 = 0.6216 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's ridiculous, just look at the volatility curve for 4-8 feb.
kakobrekla: how do you think hes gonna get by now, without the mpoe options....
mircea_popescu: currently i'm shitting the bitcoin advisor market, because you wouldn't hire anyone to pay him 100x for stupid shit
mircea_popescu: when you could juist read the stuff on trilema and be ahead.
mircea_popescu: somehow BingoBoingo doesn't quite manage to hate me for it, yet.
☟︎ ThickAsThieves: well you are mean and scary enough that anyone that would pay an advisor is probly ignoring you
mircea_popescu: yeah, plenty of rabbits with money all over the forest.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00086599 = 14.8517 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: plus they need to get through the irc log as a primer now to even hope to understand what's going on
mircea_popescu: understanding is this fascinating beast, in that it works in parts
mircea_popescu: you don;t have to understand the whole thing to have an actionable understanding.
nubbins`: bayman just bought my bass amp
mircea_popescu: finance has always been the inside joke of some old jooz.
ThickAsThieves: those assholes pointing and laughing at shit that isnt even funny!
mircea_popescu: but anyway, there's going to be a livinbg to be earned in summarizing and translating irc and stuff for vaiours needs.
ThickAsThieves: i learned that if i am ever imprisoned i will need to tell them i am jewish in order to maintain veganism
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think of it as reselling Trilema credits at a markup
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00533325 = 0.1067 BTC [-]
nubbins`: will they provide you with multivitamins?
mircea_popescu: unless you're in the habit of swallowing and do it 10 times a week
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00533328 = 0.2293 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15482 @ 0.00086599 = 13.4073 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00533154 = 0.7997 BTC [-] {5}
Namworld: Looks like a lot of people bought huge amount of goxcoins at 60%-90%
ThickAsThieves: bitcointalk should have better thread mod features, like disallowing posts from new accounts and/or Trust rating requirements
peterl: Namworld: and there are people talking about resurecting Gox, can't we just let the pile of crap die now?
Namworld: 10% cut, just after withdrawals were stopped.
peterl: did you get your fiat out?
ozbot: Using Google Maps To Intercept FBI and Secret Service Calls - Slashdot
ThickAsThieves: there are some serious issues for small businesses and google
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00549996 = 0.22 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00020285 = 0.2029 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 243 @ 0.00088164 = 0.2142 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.0213 = 0.2769 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Need a water filter? Peel a tree branch - MIT News Office
nubbins`: won't work for cryptosporidium, but still impressive
ThickAsThieves: "This is a technology institute. I don't believe there are any communication courses here."
ThickAsThieves: "This quote from your article aludes to plants having some sort of intelligence and a brain. This is rather disturbing to me coming from such a prestigious campus. This thinking must originate from some primitive caveman type of superstition. Otherwise this is a wonderful article."
nubbins`: heh, commenters are such wet blankets
kakobrekla: >Full-time Cryptocurrency 2.0 Advocate
ThickAsThieves: yeah the new company line is bitcoin is outdated, havent you heard
ozbot: St. John's man living in shed after booted out of housing - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
nubbins`: a particularly insightful comment: "another sensational story by the CBC over dramatising as usual .....and indeed scrapping the bottom of the barrel ...give us a justin bieber story please"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9645 @ 0.00087078 = 8.3987 BTC [+]
nubbins`: cbc comments, in particular, are fucking brutal
nubbins`: that fucking dickhead "froglips" comments on every. single. story.
nubbins`: that said, this is a ridiculous excuse of a news story
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.05005714 = 1.4016 BTC [-] {2}
chetty: Upper house to demand recall of Moscow ambassador to U.S.
ozbot: Ukraine crisis: Putin gets parliamentary approval for military use - World - CBC News
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00549999 = 0.154 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09799997 = 0.196 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
ozbot: Pro idiotas, which obviously means, people who have ideas. Ie, idiots. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02001759 = 0.4004 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00530003 = 0.2915 BTC [-]
nubbins`: TBF some guy on the street offers me a joint, i say yes
nubbins`: but that's just because i live where i do
nubbins`: as a 9yo girl, i say i'm 9 and what is this
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 233 @ 0.00522431 = 1.2173 BTC [-] {4}
ThickAsThieves: i must admit i almost bought shares in bourse cuz jurov
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0051007 = 0.5101 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: "But my curren PC is old and noise and it waking up wife and children when I working at night" heh
mircea_popescu: so you can think with head. congratulations, you should be on -assets.
nubbins`: sounds like he needs a new fan, not a new macbook pro
mircea_popescu: i should have linked him to my epic pics of me fixing laptop board in mexico hotel room, with solder shavings, safety pin and lighter.
wao-ender: I didnt buy when I read their prospectus..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00020499 = 0.205 BTC [+]
nubbins`: omg guise i've been selected for a free cruise to the bahamas!
nubbins`: all i need to do is press 1 now
nubbins`: if this woman approached me on the street, sure
nubbins`: long-distance phone call, nope
nubbins`: i don't take drugs from strangers over the phone either ;(
nubbins`: well, that's not entirely honest
nubbins`: you can kind of download a joint
nubbins`: i need to start producing blotter art.
ozbot: blotter art | eBay
nubbins`: not set up to perforate paper tho
nubbins`: although tbf the perforated stuff doesn't really make the rounds anymore
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves part of the problem, of course, is epitomized in the word for barbarian
mircea_popescu: the greek idea was that "these people say nothing meaningful, may as well be sheep, bar bar"
nubbins`: "Well, so far I have an incorporated company that I own 100% of"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0200012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
nubbins`: "well so far i've spent a hundred dollars"
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if this is the same guy who emailed me a few days ago
mircea_popescu: it's not the quantum computing emulated on z80s if you mwan that one
ThickAsThieves: I am looking to do a fund raise for my business I would like to get your feedback on the best strategy to do so and the best way to reach the market.
ThickAsThieves: I tell him to get a clue in kinder words, he replies "im sorry im a bit confused are u saying if i have the business plan / interesting offering you can't help me or you can ?"
ozbot: A deal can be anything. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02000001 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.05109999 = 0.511 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves any idea what "kr," is supposed to be ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05113 = 0.1023 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: no offer of $$ for your expertise?
peterl: or better, btc for expertise?
ThickAsThieves: i dont even think about what i want til i know i want anything at all
peterl: maybe you should respond with a "I charge X btc for this type of advise"?
peterl: maybe he should open a forum thread, plenty of advise there ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.31766783 BTC to 3`517 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9529 @ 0.00086402 = 8.2332 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: from my first job through my whole life, i've observed customers thinking they are entitled and more experienced at the task they are paying for
mircea_popescu: peterl i think he actually has it superbly stated. "i dont even think about what i want til i know i want anything at all"
nubbins`: [13:28:15] <@Anduck> I'm selling a 10BTC Casascius silver coin for 30 BTC. Pm me if you want to buy it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02 = 0.12 BTC [-]
Anduck: nubbins`: want to buy it
peterl: that is a heck of a markup for a coin
peterl: the silver is what, 0.1 btc?
mircea_popescu: i doubt you can make a coin out of 60 dollars' worth of silver
peterl: oh, sorry, mental math fail
ozbot: Fine Silver 1 kilogram Coin - Maple Leaf Forever - Mintage: 600 (2013)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00086242 = 7.6324 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: nubbins` didn't you canuk kooks make a 1 ton gold coin too ?
nubbins`: the bizarre part of all this is that you turned down an offer of 25btc
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, we have a nice mint and we're not afraid to use it :D
peterl: the alt-coin of the future! amazing!
ozbot: Royal Canadian Mint Million Dollar Coin (2007)
Duffer1: 30btc?! good lord you could probably bribe casc to do a one off perfect replica for half that
nubbins`: [Former Liberal cabinet minister David] Dingwall was defending his right to a hefty severance package after stepping down from a six-figure salary as head of the Canadian Mint. His departure, which some say was forced, came after revelations surfaced about ... questionable expense claims"
nubbins`: Dingwall's proclamation to a parliamentary committee: "I am entitled to my entitlements!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.08625 = 0.345 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05113 = 0.1023 BTC [+]
Duffer1: depends if he has an unsold priv key to attach to it...
nubbins`: anyway, Dingwall turned the mint from a black hole into a very profitable endeavor
nubbins`: he was, indeed, entitled to his entitlements
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.09001052 = 0.36 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: nubbins` this is quite exactly why they fight his entitlements.
mircea_popescu: someone not deserving it they could stand, but someone who earned it they could never tolerate.
nubbins`: his expense claims turned out to be perfectly reasonable, in the meantime
nubbins`: it's not like he was a CANADIAN SENATOR or anything :D
mircea_popescu: wao-ender the best part about the pando link, by the way, is how cheap it all was
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00086321 = 9.5816 BTC [+]
wao-ender: mircea_popescu: cheaper than invasion.
Duffer1: that must be why he bought recession proof heinz
nubbins`: so a friend of mine listens to this corny christian radio station that plays classical music
ThickAsThieves: see this is why i hate customers, after fixing this AM share mixup: "For this event, thank you very much for your cooperation.At the same time,As the responsible company, I hope you don't appear again similar mistakes !"
nubbins`: from earlier today: "so there's wind out there & that, and some roads are closed. not too warm out."
mircea_popescu: wao-ender except if you dig into it, it was all soviets.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves I hope you have learned your lesson son!
ThickAsThieves: yep, and the rub is this service is arguably provided for free
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171 @ 0.00086321 = 0.1476 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: “Woody Allen stated the general idea when he said: ‘The advantage of being bi-sexual is that it doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night.’ Similarly, our appetite for either operating businesses or passive investments doubles our chances of finding sensible uses for our endless gusher of cash.”
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: Warren Buffett once said, “Diversification is protection against ignorance, it makes little sense for those who know what they’re doing.”
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.049125 = 0.1965 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.085875 = 0.3435 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Seinfeld Clip - Kramer's Rickshaw Adventure - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: maybe he's giving cryptic hints to those that know him better
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves now that you've been here you cant stop thinking everyone's on his own -assets huh ?
ThickAsThieves: “I must again confess that their investments outperformed mine. (Charlie says I should add “by a lot.”) If such humiliating comparisons continue, I’ll have no choice but to cease talking about them.”
ThickAsThieves: you have certainly said something very similar in trilema
mircea_popescu: well yeah, but really it's neither me or him, it's just british.
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nubbins`: "Generally, for your own sake, you should spend most of your time not doing what you want to do, and especially so if you’re young."
nubbins`: well, at least i did that right
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0854999 = 0.171 BTC [-] {2}
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nubbins`: well, if kids didn't take things the wrong way they wouldn't be kids
nubbins`: i take that statement more as retrospective affirmation than an instruction
ThickAsThieves: Buffet insulting his successor “Ajit’s mind is an idea factory that is always looking for more lines of business he can add to his current assortment.”
mircea_popescu: yeah. i think it's moire for the political press than anything
mircea_popescu: "Of the many problems that poses, none is more serious than the fact that Omidyar now has the only two people with exclusive access to the complete Snowden NSA cache, Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras. Somehow, the same billionaire who co-financed the “coup” in Ukraine with USAID, also has exclusive access to the NSA secrets—and very few in the independent media dare voice a skeptical word about it."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00539987 = 0.216 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.13311598 = 1.0649 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1200 @ 0.00020338 = 0.2441 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: "how often do you replace your running shoes?" -wife to roommate
nubbins`: "i don't scuff, so i'd say about two months a pair"
nubbins`: the roommate runs as a pastime
nubbins`: i guess scuffers get less than two months out of a pair
mircea_popescu: if my passtimes required me to buy shoes 6 times a year i'd be pretty distraught
nubbins`: ehh, there are costlier pastimes
nubbins`: it's funny, he actually takes a marker and writes the date of first use on the back of the heels
jurov: well, pro runners use very light and soft shoes, no wonder they wear off quickly
nubbins`: i've known people to do this to packs of cigarette papers, but not shoes
nubbins`: jurov, i picked up one of his shoes once, with eyes closed you'd almost never know you were holding anything
mircea_popescu: which i suppose reflects the normal lifetime of fucking leather shoes.
nubbins`: yeah, he buys 2-3 pairs at a time
ozbot: 27 killed in China railway attack - CNN.com
nubbins`: huh, new balance makes all their shoes in the US and UK
mircea_popescu: "The NFL's been handing out traumatic brain injuries for decades, but the moment Disney decided it needed the women that was the end of lockerroom hijinx. But until it completes the NFL's rebranding as a kinder, bully-free, concussionless game, complete with engagement rings and Us Weekly's "Ten Hunkiest White Or Articulate Quarterbacks", it's going to have to keep broadcasting Nashville. "
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you see, sports ARE dead. cause they're trying to get women into the audience.
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mircea_popescu: ("You know, you could use an editor." You could use some free association, it may help you see unconscious connections which drive your life. "I find that weed helps." Amateur.)
mircea_popescu: person breaks fucking article to insert paranthetical diorama
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well football at the professional level it seems is.
nubbins`: see, the guy offering you a joint is just trying to make you a better writer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 85 @ 0.00261 = 0.2219 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.089 = 0.445 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: BingoBoingo: that url's going to need a pastebin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00548875 = 0.1921 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: that's the new all american as far as this generation of babes are concerned, B
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00087158 = 4.7937 BTC [-]
benkay: well 'this generation' would be the agerange boss
benkay: 'babes' is just a personal generic for wimmins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10926 @ 0.00087365 = 9.5455 BTC [+]
benkay: to a nation that favors the image over the substance maybe
benkay: you're the anthropologist tho
mircea_popescu: i suppose pigeons can readily distinguish male from female pigeons. i can not.
BingoBoingo: Neck tattoos, arm tattoos, probably less visible tattoos. Still, he hit .319 last year
benkay: dude on the left with the fag
mircea_popescu: let's play "help evil ai MP infiltrate human society", a society game.
benkay: what's the -est? puerto rican?
benkay: ambiguous like bitcoin price
mircea_popescu: also, you can readily guess that shot is in europe : women smile at naked girl walking down the street.
mircea_popescu: i guess george really has it, baldness is now in style.
benkay: BingoBoingo: 'cause he's dark?
BingoBoingo: benkay: More cause he looks like he is going to stab someone of they obstruct his view of dat ass
benkay: give us another one, mi
benkay: SO THESE MYSTICAL BITCOINS
benkay: spring is for teh lulz
mircea_popescu: judge's wife, a tall beautiful woman is allegedly raped in a phone booth
mircea_popescu: who's at most tall enough to stick his nose in her snatch
mircea_popescu: at trial they can't quite establish HOW he'd have done it, so in spite of all the scandal guy walks free.
mircea_popescu: judge buys the guy drinks and asks him to pls tell him wtf.
mircea_popescu: i put a pot on her head and fucked her holding the handles.
mircea_popescu: in retrospect, perhaps one of the more offensive romanian jokes out there.
ozbot: Welcome to Instant Rimshot
benkay: oh come now, i want to hear actually offensive romanian jokes now
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 145 @ 0.00548898 = 0.7959 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: However, not all women are the target demo of Randi's lip synching, the CEO of General Dynamics is a woman, I think she has a higher security clearance than the entire Senate, and I know for a fact she builds alien spaceships, why not interview her about how she uses social media to promote her brand and make connections and break ceilings? Because there's no Like button for hard work or triple integrals, which is do
mircea_popescu: ubly interesting because calculus was invented to make hard work easier. "I just don't get math." Can't do math if you weren't taught to think logically, and logic is tough on kids' self esteems and makes them way less submissive, easier just to put on a video.
mircea_popescu: this is pretty spot-on, i do think phebe novakovic has moar clearance than most of the senate.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09799997 = 0.196 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25526 @ 0.00086429 = 22.0619 BTC [-] {3}
Jere_Jones: I'm having trouble with a word in mp's pro-idiotas article. "intraductibility"
Jere_Jones: What does it mean? Best I can find is that it is a french-ish word meaning "un-translate-able".
Jere_Jones: "A complex thing that can not be translated"?
mircea_popescu: your wife'll never be able to explain to you WHY she loves you,
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00088186 = 0.1764 BTC [+]
Jere_Jones: *Why* she loves me is intraductible. <- Correct usage?
ThickAsThieves: seems like an easy target for "something so absract it doesn't exist"
ThickAsThieves: well i always say, if it's that complicated, you're solving the wrong problem
benkay: "mmm! this problem has a lovely hint of complexity."
mircea_popescu: if you never meet such complexity you're not doing a too good job of thnking
ThickAsThieves: just sometimes beating your head against well is merely that
mircea_popescu: but you know, suppose you didn't for whatever reason have the ability to evaluate content.
mircea_popescu: like you're an alien from a different herbertian space.
mircea_popescu: by the criterion that "it is pulp all which includes no intraducible complexity"
mircea_popescu: you don't actally need to be able to at all understand what they say for this purpose.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09799997 = 0.196 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kinda what pulp is, actually. "a bad retelling of history"
mircea_popescu: incidentally : urda is a muchly loved romanian soft cheese
davout: you guys are all the jon snows of cheese
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for camembert we wouldn't even be on speaking terms
ThickAsThieves: not like we're in france, where every corner of the body produces exotic cheeses
davout: the commercial for the famous french "dick cheese"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 196 @ 0.00055056 = 0.1079 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: do a tell-all post about how we discovered what happened to Gox coins
jurov: lol, 800k btc sent to atc wallet by mistake?
jurov: bitcoin foundation was too ashamed to admit itis possible
mircea_popescu: bitcoin foundation come out with a BFL statement yet ?
mircea_popescu: or did their murk lawyer advise they;'re not to discuss two major scams the same week
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you know, all about how bfl is a serious biznis that has the foundation's seal of approval.
ThickAsThieves: i didnt learn about how the Alydian thing panned out til yesterday
ThickAsThieves: wow they are still selling preorders of those PCI cards
ThickAsThieves: "Butterfly Labs has shipped more ASIC products than all competitors combined"
ThickAsThieves: "As a fairly early Bitcoin adopter and institutional miner, the choice for mining hardware comes down to innovation. Who is going to have the experience and best technology going forward to keep me ahead of the curve? The fact that BFL has a proven chip design, combined with their innovations in form factor and node size means that they will be hard to beat moving forward."
kakobrekla: yes, 16 year old scammer kiddo is also institution.
ozbot: Where did ButterflyLabs go? : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: for instance if my roof disappeared and then came back
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's funny, too. coinlab nao has moneyz to seed start-ups
ThickAsThieves: "Alydian doesn't have employees or an office, but it reimburses CoinLab for the work it has done in the mining process."
ThickAsThieves: "What I see is a debtor that has absolutely zero existence," Judge Overstreet said. "I want to make sure that when we do this world-wide advertising [to promote an auction] we are not misrepresenting to the world what we have to sell, because the integrity of the bankruptcy process is at stake."
ThickAsThieves: only Coinlab could have someone worrying about the "integrity" of bankruptcy
ThickAsThieves: "I'm not satisfied that there isn't some hiding of information," she said.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, “We are part of a transformation of Bitcoin mining,” said Hans Olsen, CEO of Alydian. “Alydian has developed an enterprise-scale Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: they ended up paying off their biggest unhappy customer
ThickAsThieves: if yer gonna support scammers, at least have a big enough wallet for a lawyer i guess
mircea_popescu: except people with large wallets do not want to support scammers.
ThickAsThieves: so it's really a lesson for scammers, quantity over quality
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.581101 = 1.1622 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 102 @ 0.0032 = 0.3264 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23467 @ 0.00086367 = 20.2677 BTC [-]
KRS-One: lol gainesville sun..i used to live in gainesville..quite the college party town. i almost stayed there living the life.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00548898 = 0.2744 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: showing a baby picture to a man is an aggressive act because it demands a reaction, you showing him a picture of your baby is entirely for your benefit and not at all for his, it is a dare, in much the same way as a woman on a first date telling you she doesn't play games is a dare, a dare you shouldn't take, trust me on this, overpay the check in cash and run.
benkay: nah i only date women who cook
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 705 @ 0.00086234 = 0.6079 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2358 @ 0.00085998 = 2.0278 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: give an idiot the time, and he takes the whole damn day
BingoBoingo: The thing about science/bitcoin/whatever is people can believe whatever they want, while reality generally doesn't give a shit.
ThickAsThieves: well i'd rather see that money go to netflix subsciptions or whatever the hell else it may have gone to instead
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves of course, none of it has anything to do with miracles or nye or the debate or anything.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.005489 = 0.1921 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29625 @ 0.00085973 = 25.4695 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: WARNING Cryptostocks.com INVESTORS SECURITY FLAW
ozbot: Roger Ver, bless him, tells that Gox is going bankrupt
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04966666 = 0.149 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.086999 = 0.174 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04890001 = 0.2445 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.04780287 = 0.5736 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.04706874 = 0.3765 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.04628927 = 0.648 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.04516153 = 0.5871 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60469 @ 0.00085692 = 51.8171 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149 @ 0.00084325 = 0.1256 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.0008424 = 16.848 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: seems thermos does not want to reply to my ban complaint
kakobrekla: cant even buy my way out of this one it seems
deadweasel: i'm not sure it made it out of suggestion stage, but the logs will tell
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008424 = 4.212 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so berkshire just had its 4th worst year in a 48 year history
mircea_popescu: while simultaneously making 18.2%, which is sorta midway (average returns 19.7%) in nominal terms
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.09788314 = 0.2936 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the difference being that s&p made 32.4%, which is like... 3x averages over the period.
mircea_popescu: it's just that 20% a year doesn'tmanage to keep up with inflation, that's all.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00055805 = 0.5581 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.045 = 0.27 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6501 @ 0.00084325 = 5.482 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.04318768 = 0.691 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.04297826 = 0.9885 BTC [-] {3}
Duffer1: lol NATO what the fuck on earth could they possibly do...
Duffer1: nato is exactly what i'd imagine a reddit army to look like
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: huh? I used the exact same pubkey the first time I signed up (I even forwarded my original email) and it worked for over a year!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.0415 = 1.245 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.04052687 = 0.6484 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.60927987 = 11.5763 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.615 BTC [+]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I can try re-exporting it from my keychain and send you that. I just repeated the original email this past time
copumpkin: let me do that, in case the copy and paste corrupted it somehow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.06999998 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: somehow it didn't occur to me to check for <br> earlier.
copumpkin: hmm, I should probably just make it plain text
copumpkin: oh well, if this one breaks too I'll do that
mircea_popescu: "That kind of commitment was nothing new for us: We’ve been making similar wagers ever since Buffett
mircea_popescu: Partnership Ltd. acquired control of Berkshire in 1965. For good reason, too. Charlie and I have always considered
mircea_popescu: a “bet” on ever-rising U.S. prosperity to be very close to a sure thing.
mircea_popescu: Indeed, who has ever benefited during the past 237 years by betting against America? If you compare our
mircea_popescu: country’s present condition to that existing in 1776, you have to rub your eyes in wonder. And the dynamism
mircea_popescu: embedded in our market economy will continue to work its magic. America’s best days lie ahead.
mircea_popescu: ahahah gotta love the fact that a 90 yo guy in nebraska is pretty much the only one left still believing this.
Duffer1: how far the mighty have fallen
mircea_popescu: anyway, not entirely accurate. numerous times people benefited, sometimes immensely, by betting against the us.
BingoBoingo: Well, Buffet generally bets slow and safely. I mean buying the trains was a great move on his part.
mircea_popescu: auto insurance is great insurance to have, too, because you end up with just as much float as disaster, but much less risk.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04093 = 0.2047 BTC [+]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: did that one work?
mircea_popescu: copumpkin im not in a position to dick with it right nao.
copumpkin: just curious, I'll be going offline again soon :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04093 = 0.2047 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04093 = 0.2047 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00548902 = 0.236 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00548903 = 0.5489 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.61772984 = 9.2659 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: Duffer1, that article is poor. He begins painting a picture, but then he won't show us the finished piece.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.62569998 = 4.3799 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.08510002 = 0.4255 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00569989 = 0.1026 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 77 @ 0.0028097 = 0.2163 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0978431 = 0.3914 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu just answering this nonsense: (<ThickAsThieves> benkay only dates WoW sluts) with some of my own
wao-ender: r> oh and there's a russian warship docking in cuba now, mysteriously
wao-ender: looks like information escalation, lot of folks calls this like ww3.. overrated.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00540011 = 0.162 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00548902 = 0.4062 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00549961 = 2.0294 BTC [+] {5}
TestingUnoDosTre: MMM / BTC above or equal to .2 on May 3 2014 Rejection reason: Consider submitting with substantial paid wager given peculiarity of proposition
artifexd: And there is a place it is priced in BTC?
artifexd: So the bet outcome is determined by two (possibly compromised/influenced) feeds?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04649929 = 0.1395 BTC [+] {3}
artifexd: Thanks benkay. That was exactly along the lines I was thinking.
TestingUnoDosTre: theres bets with btcs usd price on the website all thr time. can you expand?
benkay: well your bet comes after the data feeds are found to be useless.
jurov: too much fake data
benkay: bet opening dates, TestingUnoDosTre.
benkay: other bets dependent on btc price were *placed* before feeds were found to be useless. your bet was placed after feeds found to be useless. your bet is rejected probably because now the mods know the price signal is fucked. previous bets were not because nobody knew the price signal was fucked.
benkay: did you read that link?
benkay: you should probably ask the relevant parties as indicated in the trilema piece.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0054002 = 0.27 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: the easy answer is probably just to use bitcoin-central, but that'd just reek of cronyism.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.08649999 = 0.173 BTC [+]
TestingUnoDosTre: that link is about MPoE options and counterparty risk, which thishas very little to do with. amiright?
ThickAsThieves: whats the big question, doesnt it say to include a bet sum to get it accepted?
benkay: Even if one were to roll their own index : BTC-e is a rather dubious venture, still fondly remembered for their involvement in NovaCoin, the original altchain scamcoin and spotty reports of selective scamming. Bitstamp has two thumbs down from Matic for reasons I don’t fully grasp but then again I don’t really need to in that circumstance. I wouldn’t trust Kraken to hold as much as my spit, especially after their recent
benkay: bitdaytrade-esque failure and Jesse’s enthusiastic support of the well known and universally reviled Jared Kenna scammerx. There are some others out there, and they pop up and down like flies.xi
benkay: To make a long story short : there’s no way to obtain a price feed that could be relied on, currently.
benkay: TestingUnoDosTre: you gotta try harder, frere.
benkay: yeah there's that approach
benkay: anyways, ThickAsThieves has it on the nose. mods say submit with substantial wager.
ThickAsThieves: basically bitbet is saying your bet is lame, but if you back it theyll list it
TestingUnoDosTre: if I just throw 2 btc out therr, im afraid no one takes interest until too late
benkay: the more you throw down the bigger the attraction on the other side, right?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0056999 = 0.285 BTC [+]
benkay: three strikes and you're out, ozbot.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2152 @ 0.0002 = 0.4304 BTC [+]
benkay: help? that's not really how bitbet works most of the time.
benkay: but you'd want to bother mircea_popescu or kakobrekla until they satisfy your curiosity
BingoBoingo: benkay: For the purposes I am looking for on the Betbet, I need to see unit patches and other things that affiliate these "Russian Soldiers" with units of a regular army. The backops unaffiliated, noncombatants (as per the Geneva convention definition) can't resolve that bet as yet.
benkay: relevant to your interests is all, BingoBoingo.
BingoBoingo: benkay: I know. I've got Bitcoins at stake.
Duffer1: thickasthieves the article was terrible, was just pointing it out to MP if he needed something to hate on
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0056999 = 0.57 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.0056999 = 0.5244 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: hi TestingUnoDosTre , which part of the mods reply > "Rejection reason: Consider submitting with substantial paid wager given peculiarity of proposition" you have troubles with?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13916 @ 0.00084546 = 11.7654 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000204 = 0.204 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5490 @ 0.00020499 = 1.1254 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0002051 = 0.2051 BTC [+]
TestingUnoDosTre: my trouble is this. im willing to wager more as the bet develops, but .5 btc is more than most bets start with. i want to gage interest, see if theres an actual good payout, and wait maybe a week or few before i add more to the bet