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dub: thestringpuller: is there something amusing about ht einstance of google you're being served?
thestringpuller: I find everything amusing.
thestringpuller: That's why I can watch Arrested Development for hours on end
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.00135 BTC [-]
dub: thestringpuller: I checked base goog, looks stock, what are you seeing?
dub: http://serato.com/latest/blog/15937/martin-from-support-on-the-vestax-vci-380 DO WANT
ozbot: Martin from Support on the Vestax VCI-380 | Blog | Serato.com
dub: spent a lot of time fuckign with the vci-300 and always wanted an MPC style cue pad with it
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042978 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 50 @ 0.00125 = 0.0625 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.042979 = 0.9885 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: > Thats not DJing thats PBing, so please stop to call it DJ.
kakobrekla: lol
mircea_popescu: lolwut ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042979 BTC [+]
dub: yeah commenters on the internet are assholes, who knew?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.042978 = 0.3438 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0429999 = 0.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0429999 = 0.129 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.042979 = 0.1719 BTC [+]
mjrIII: dude, asicminer share price is crazy
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.00465 = 0.0093 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: why now ?
mircea_popescu: was just as crazy before.
mjrIII: yeah
mjrIII: true
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.042979 = 0.2149 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0429999 = 0.129 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: good you couldnt short it eh
Namworld: I want my 696 shares back... and sell them now instead
Namworld: eheh
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.250347 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.250343 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2503 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2502 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042506 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.042505 = 0.2125 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.0425 = 2.04 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0421 = 2.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0421 = 0.1684 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0421 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04201 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.04201 = 0.5041 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.042 = 0.672 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yeah. except i still can't short it.
mircea_popescu: for all the talk of these financial cats the market's as frozen as antarctica.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042978 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: what's frozen?
thestringpuller: in particular?
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.01848 = 0.037 BTC [+]
Namworld: There's also a flabbergasting lack of any kind of bid support for ASICMINER
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the market.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.21 BTC [+]
furuknap: Perhaps there's hope yet... http://nextbigfuture.com/2013/06/technical-hurdles-have-been-overcome.html
Namworld: There's probably like ~1200 total in bids on the way down to 0.01 BTC per ASICMINER
mircea_popescu: who;s gonna donate heads.
mircea_popescu: easier to just recycle the stupid.
furuknap: I'm nore thinking that people can be useful as replacement bodies after their heads have been confiscated.
kakobrekla: instead of execution, swap heads
kakobrekla: with someone who needs a body
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: im not sure i want to grace the body of an idiot
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what market? turnip market? movie market? etc?
mircea_popescu: he probably did stupid things to it.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller we were discussing asicminer you know
thestringpuller: oh
mircea_popescu: specifically shorting it
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.292 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 7 @ 0.031499 = 0.2205 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 8 @ 0.031499 = 0.252 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159560.msg2622457#msg2622457
ozbot: New ASIC Cedartec [Probable SCAM]
mircea_popescu: i guess you all missed out on that hot stuff huh ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.1506 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.1505 = 12.4515 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.1504 = 8.3008 BTC [-]
dub: might be nice to holiday a while on the body of a hot female
mircea_popescu: you know dub, if you'd like to swallow some manlove you can just say.
dub: stay at home and play with your tits
kakobrekla: yeah, well you like head jars better?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla peach.
kakobrekla: hum?
mircea_popescu: peach jam jar head
kakobrekla: heh
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 324 @ 0.001155 = 0.3742 BTC [-]
dub: kid at school we called jamjar
dub: you can probable extrapolate why
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 200 @ 0.001152 = 0.2304 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Uy2jpMqNnio/TN7o-WO1y1I/AAAAAAAABZM/M11uF6RsO3M/s1600/muslim-attack-goat.jpg << i googled buttsex with a goat and that's what it gave me
kakobrekla: dubs way
furuknap: I'm more interested in knowing why you googled that...
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001151 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1385 @ 0.001133 = 1.5692 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001132 = 0.1132 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 35 @ 0.00113 = 0.0396 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 40 @ 0.00113 = 0.0452 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1429 @ 0.00112 = 1.6005 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.0011 = 0.11 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i was thinking about finance and jam jars.
mircea_popescu: somehow this is what came out
furuknap: Yeah, I'll use that the next time my embarrasing fetishes come out too...
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 500 @ 0.00103 = 0.515 BTC [-]
furuknap: :-P
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.001025 = 0.0021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 54 @ 0.00102 = 0.0551 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.1505 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.1504 = 12.4512 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.1502 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.15 = 12.45 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: gotta bear in mind i'm unembarassable, which may be a required feature.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0428 = 0.856 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0428 = 0.2996 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.042 = 0.168 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.041505 = 2.0753 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042979 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0429999 = 0.215 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: why does seth godin look like a total retard/faggot these days ?
mircea_popescu: nm.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.288693 = 8.5774 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.288693 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.288694 = 8.5774 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042978 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.042979 = 0.2149 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.042979 = 2.2779 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.01848 = 0.0554 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042979 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 500 @ 0.001022 = 0.511 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001021 = 0.1021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 400 @ 0.00102 = 0.408 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 746 @ 0.00102 = 0.7609 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 164 @ 0.00102 = 0.1673 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.017501 = 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0175 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 20 @ 0.017007 = 0.3401 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.01735 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 55 @ 0.017006 = 0.9353 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0162 = 0.0324 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.01604 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 90 @ 0.015 = 1.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.288685 = 21.4434 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.042979 = 1.2464 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.042979 = 0.6447 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 81 @ 0.00102 = 0.0826 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.042979 = 0.1719 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.043 = 0.215 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00082683 = 5.1263 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.279 = 8.558 BTC [-]
dub: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2339588/Up-12-women-allergic-semen-claims-leading-expert--wrongly-blaming-symptoms-STDs.html
ozbot: Up to 12% of women could be 'allergic to semen' claims leading expert - with many wrongly blaming th
dub: 'Free semen allergy test'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1219 @ 0.00082683 = 1.0079 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: anyone's an expert these days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111 @ 0.00082683 = 0.0918 BTC [-]
pankkake: it seems to only cover sperm in the vagina. who cares
dub: semen in vagina? how pedestrian
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4170 @ 0.00082683 = 3.4479 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 400 @ 0.00102 = 0.408 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 12 @ 0.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 275 @ 0.004628 = 1.2727 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0429 = 0.2145 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.279 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.043 = 0.946 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.043 = 1.591 BTC [+]
dub: jesus fuck somebody wants me to attend a meeting at 9am
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.043 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0429 = 0.6435 BTC [-]
Namworld: =O
Namworld: 9 am? Who is even up at 5 am!
Namworld: Ugh... 9 am*
Namworld: 2 PM to wake up at the earliest.
dub: usually on my 3rd coffee by 9 but its still far to early for meetings
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 200 @ 0.0012 = 0.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0429 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 20 @ 0.018475 = 0.3695 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0429999 = 0.387 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.00988 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.269 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.174999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.269 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.043 = 0.129 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.279 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.2887 = 8.5774 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.289 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.294 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.295 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1143 @ 0.00082797 = 0.9464 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.043 = 2.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1532 @ 0.001199 = 1.8369 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 68 @ 0.001199 = 0.0815 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 240 @ 0.001021 = 0.245 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 355 @ 0.00102 = 0.3621 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 90 @ 0.001002 = 0.0902 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001 = 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001 = 0.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 4 @ 0.001 = 0.004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 43 @ 0.001 = 0.043 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.0012 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.043 = 0.172 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.169101 = 0.8455 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 21 @ 0.018476 = 0.388 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 19 @ 0.018478 = 0.3511 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 18 @ 0.01848 = 0.3326 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 17 @ 0.0185 = 0.3145 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 37 @ 0.018998 = 0.7029 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 63 @ 0.019 = 1.197 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 20 @ 0.019 = 0.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 450 @ 0.00221 = 0.9945 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.294 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 45 @ 0.031499 = 1.4175 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 55 @ 0.019 = 1.045 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.294 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.295 = 30.065 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.0431 = 0.9913 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00082826 = 5.7978 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 8 @ 0.2 = 1.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0431 = 0.0862 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.04251 = 0.2976 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.042501 = 0.5525 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0431 = 0.431 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.294 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0023 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0429999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.169101 = 0.8455 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0428 = 0.1284 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0425 = 0.255 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.04241 = 8.482 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0424 = 4.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 435 @ 0.04230001 = 18.4005 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.1691 = 1.691 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.004689 = 0.0094 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.173999 = 1.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 30 @ 0.174 = 5.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1902 @ 0.00082826 = 1.5754 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2492 @ 0.00083042 = 2.0694 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.2708 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.299999 = 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 58 @ 0.0425 = 2.465 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.043099 = 0.5603 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.0431 = 1.3792 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.294 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0431 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0431 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.029601 = 0.592 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.0296 = 0.296 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.0427 = 2.0069 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.0431 = 0.6896 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.029603 = 0.296 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.0296 = 0.296 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0429999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0432 = 0.432 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0433 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0433 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.042102 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0433 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0433 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0433 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1021 @ 0.001051 = 1.0731 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.26 = 8.52 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.2 = 21 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3821 @ 0.00083216 = 3.1797 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 42 @ 0.019 = 0.798 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0431 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.043 = 0.731 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.179989 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0429999 = 0.344 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 74 @ 0.0429999 = 3.182 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0429999 = 0.129 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.0429999 = 1.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00083023 = 3.2379 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.050105 = 0.1503 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0431 = 0.1293 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04299989 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000863 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04299989 = 0.129 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 14 @ 0.019 = 0.266 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.031498 = 0.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 271 @ 0.000992 = 0.2688 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 9 @ 0.031499 = 0.2835 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5516 @ 0.00082833 = 4.5691 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 29 @ 0.000999 = 0.029 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.042115 = 0.1685 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 46 @ 0.042111 = 1.9371 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04211 = 0.4211 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 123 @ 0.04210001 = 5.1783 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 63 @ 0.001 = 0.063 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.04200001 = 2.94 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.041651 = 4.1651 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.04081003 = 4.081 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 48 @ 0.004689 = 0.2251 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 283 @ 0.00469 = 1.3273 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 49 @ 0.0047 = 0.2303 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 10 @ 0.005001 = 0.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 4 @ 0.005067 = 0.0203 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 206 @ 0.005068 = 1.044 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 29 @ 0.019 = 0.551 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 42 @ 0.01919 = 0.806 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 25 @ 0.0195 = 0.4875 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 38 @ 0.0195 = 0.741 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0427 = 0.1281 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.063 = 0.126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2116 @ 0.00083023 = 1.7568 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 80 @ 0.0055 = 0.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0055 = 0.011 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.019989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0429 = 0.6435 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 5 @ 0.032 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 5 @ 0.032 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 30 @ 0.0495 = 1.485 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.0427 = 2.0069 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 38 @ 0.00115 = 0.0437 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 50 @ 0.0495 = 2.475 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.274 = 8.548 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.275 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.274 = 8.548 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.042698 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.200033 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 37 @ 0.0055 = 0.2035 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 29 @ 0.0055 = 0.1595 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.032 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0427 = 0.1708 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0427 = 1.2383 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.00115 = 0.0058 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.200053 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0427 = 0.427 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 304 @ 0.0427 = 12.9808 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00083074 = 2.7414 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.288794 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 20 @ 0.0015 = 0.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 7 @ 0.00115 = 0.0081 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 150 @ 0.00115 = 0.1725 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.005895 = 0.0413 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.0059 = 0.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.288795 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.043 = 0.387 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 420 @ 0.001021 = 0.4288 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.04325 = 1.7733 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 5 @ 0.0197 = 0.0985 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.019601 = 1.9601 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 75 @ 0.0195 = 1.4625 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.042695 = 0.2562 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.04325 = 0.346 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.04329 = 1.8182 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0429 = 0.6435 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.04329 = 1.5152 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.042801 = 0.7704 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.04329 = 0.4329 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0198 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 239 @ 0.001021 = 0.244 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 261 @ 0.00102 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00083238 = 4.4116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00083304 = 20.2429 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6365 @ 0.00083074 = 5.2877 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00083304 = 1.2496 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.007 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 49 @ 0.001196 = 0.0586 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.04329 = 0.8658 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 37 @ 0.042695 = 1.5797 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04210001 = 0.1263 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 19 @ 0.0421 = 0.7999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.170001 = 0.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.04329 = 0.8225 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.269 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.043 = 0.731 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.042801 = 1.3696 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0427 = 0.427 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.0426 = 1.7466 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0426 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.269 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [+]
asswatch: !help
assbot: List of commands:
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
Diablo-D3: http://i.imgur.com/IS9ol.jpg
asswatch: !mp http://dpaste.com/1276903/
assbot: Processing.
assbot: Response: http://dpaste.com/1276905/plain/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00083304 = 0.6664 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00083328 = 5.8746 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.043249 = 2.1625 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.04325 = 2.1625 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 56 @ 0.04329 = 2.4242 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1844 @ 0.00083074 = 1.5319 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 806 @ 0.0008289 = 0.6681 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2194 @ 0.0008289 = 1.8186 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8937 @ 0.00082797 = 7.3996 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2729 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.04329 = 0.2165 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.2729 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.04329 = 2.5974 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0075 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.0019 = 0.019 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.1860209 = 0.372 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.001199 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001018 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0198 BTC [+]
furuknap: So, apparently, I'm going public. http://bfmines.com/2013/07/01/update-bfmines-approved-trading-commences-wednesday-july-3/
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.0198 = 0.0594 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.0199 = 0.1194 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 19 @ 0.019989 = 0.3798 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 79 @ 0.01999 = 1.5792 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 25 @ 0.02 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 55 @ 0.02 = 1.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.00115 = 0.0023 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.273 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 46 @ 0.004999 = 0.23 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 8 @ 0.005 = 0.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 42 @ 0.005065 = 0.2127 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 100 @ 0.005065 = 0.5065 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 154 @ 0.005067 = 0.7803 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 39 @ 0.005067 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 20 @ 0.005068 = 0.1014 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 19 @ 0.0051 = 0.0969 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 3 @ 0.0052 = 0.0156 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.263001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.043279 = 0.3895 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00082731 = 9.5968 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 240 @ 0.02 = 4.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.263 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00082731 = 5.998 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.179989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 569 @ 0.0052 = 2.9588 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 11 @ 0.0495 = 0.5445 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.179989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.043279 = 0.2164 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.263 = 8.526 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 120 @ 0.005227 = 0.6272 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1000 @ 0.005228 = 5.228 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.042901 = 0.5577 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.0426 = 0.4686 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.043279 = 0.9954 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 98 @ 0.0052 = 0.5096 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 400 @ 0.0052 = 2.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 3 @ 0.0052 = 0.0156 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 23 @ 0.00115 = 0.0265 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0084 = 0.084 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.264 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.0012 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.001201 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.001202 = 0.0301 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.001203 = 0.0301 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.04278 = 2.139 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.299999 = 2.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.04293 = 0.1717 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.00115 = 0.0288 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.042789 = 1.1981 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.3 = 6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 150 @ 0.001227 = 0.1841 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 21 @ 0.0495 = 1.0395 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.04293 = 0.4722 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 47 @ 0.02 = 0.94 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.043279 = 0.4761 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.295 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 19 @ 0.0495 = 0.9405 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.001101 = 0.011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.0429 = 1.6302 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2819 @ 0.00082731 = 2.3322 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6427 @ 0.00082846 = 5.3245 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001174 = 0.0117 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 18 @ 0.0205 = 0.369 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0205 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 235 @ 0.021 = 4.935 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 25 @ 0.021 = 0.525 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 12 @ 0.021198 = 0.2544 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.021198 = 0.212 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 25 @ 0.0215 = 0.5375 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.021789 = 2.1789 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.021998 = 2.1998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 24 @ 0.022 = 0.528 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 4 @ 0.001174 = 0.0047 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00082655 = 1.2398 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7008 @ 0.00082639 = 5.7913 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0423 = 1.0575 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.37 = 8.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.029711 = 0.5942 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.02971 = 0.5942 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 50 @ 0.0297 = 1.485 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 5 @ 0.0296 = 0.148 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 25 @ 0.0295 = 0.7375 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 50 @ 0.029 = 1.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.0489 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.043279 = 0.2164 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 200 @ 0.0495 = 9.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 40 @ 0.0495 = 1.98 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 25 @ 0.001174 = 0.0294 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.37 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.043279 = 1.082 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.37 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.043279 = 0.9521 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 44 @ 0.04329 = 1.9048 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0433 = 0.9093 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 198 @ 0.0433 = 8.5734 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.0433 = 1.9485 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 54 @ 0.043325 = 2.3396 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.04335 = 3.2513 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.043399 = 1.519 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0435 = 0.261 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.0435 = 1.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.0435 = 1.9575 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.378 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.378 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 4.393091 = 65.8964 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 20 @ 0.001169 = 0.0234 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.395 = 13.185 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.395 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.395 = 8.79 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.043699 = 2.185 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.42 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.043999 = 1.408 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.044 = 1.188 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 140 @ 0.0425 = 5.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0425 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.0495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4412 @ 0.00082616 = 3.645 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.439989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.021998 = 0.132 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 54 @ 0.044 = 2.376 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.044 = 0.176 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 12 @ 0.00525 = 0.063 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001131 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0425 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.44 = 8.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.44 = 13.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.44 = 8.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044 = 0.264 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.449989 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.044285 = 1.3286 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.45 = 8.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.044285 = 0.7086 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 50 @ 0.001221 = 0.0611 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.043214 = 0.1296 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.043215 = 0.2593 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 31 @ 0.0425 = 1.3175 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.042749 = 0.7695 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.45 = 8.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.04275 = 0.5558 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 270 @ 0.04279 = 11.5533 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.043215 = 0.3025 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.043214 = 2.0311 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.043213 = 0.0864 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.04312 = 0.2156 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 61 @ 0.04279 = 2.6102 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 239 @ 0.04279 = 10.2268 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.042998 = 2.1499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 65 @ 0.0299 = 1.9435 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00082712 = 3.722 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 231 @ 0.00082846 = 0.1914 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.0008319 = 1.539 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4519 @ 0.00083261 = 3.7626 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 107 @ 0.0429999 = 4.601 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 4.45 = 57.85 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 136 @ 0.0429999 = 5.848 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.043 = 4.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 121 @ 0.043 = 5.203 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 40 @ 0.0299 = 1.196 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04349999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 26 @ 0.0495 = 1.287 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 20 @ 0.020101 = 0.402 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 14 @ 0.0201 = 0.2814 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 14 @ 0.0495 = 0.693 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.001019 = 0.0051 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001019 = 0.0102 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 988 @ 0.00082616 = 0.8162 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2171 @ 0.00082554 = 1.7922 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 55 @ 0.04349999 = 2.3925 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 238 @ 0.0435 = 10.353 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 86 @ 0.0201 = 1.7286 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 4 @ 0.02 = 0.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 95 @ 0.0299 = 2.8405 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 130 @ 0.0495 = 6.435 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 435 @ 0.0442999 = 19.2705 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.340013 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.340014 = 17.3601 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.340018 = 8.68 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.340015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.044284 = 0.1329 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.04351 = 0.174 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 170 @ 0.02005 = 3.4085 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 70 @ 0.0495 = 3.465 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.044285 = 0.3986 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.044285 = 1.5943 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.043018 = 2.1509 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04415 = 0.1325 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.021993 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3929 @ 0.00082554 = 3.2435 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8277 @ 0.00082553 = 6.8329 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 544 @ 0.00082549 = 0.4491 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 118 @ 0.03 = 3.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044293 = 0.0886 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.043501 = 2.0445 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 44 @ 0.0435 = 1.914 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.04429 = 0.0886 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.177999 = 1.246 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1869 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 45 @ 0.187 = 8.415 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.044249 = 1.1947 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.438 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.044249 = 0.177 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.438999 = 31.073 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.439 = 8.878 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.438988 = 26.6339 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.439 = 13.317 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.044149 = 0.4856 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.0441388 = 0.309 BTC [-]
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 244236 | Current Difficulty: 2.1335329113983E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 245951 | Next Difficulty In: 1715 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 1 hour, 32 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 23598867.8191 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.60935
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 50 @ 0.00525 = 0.2625 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 22 @ 0.02 = 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 49 @ 0.0195 = 0.9555 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 38 @ 0.00525 = 0.1995 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 6 @ 0.001019 = 0.0061 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 32 @ 0.000941 = 0.0301 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 520 @ 0.0055 = 2.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.1999 = 1.1994 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 44 @ 0.2 = 8.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000865 = 0.0043 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 31 @ 0.000864 = 0.0268 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044149 = 0.0883 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.39001 = 8.78 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.390005 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.390008 = 17.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.4 = 8.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.4 = 30.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.04413 = 0.6178 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0441388 = 0.3531 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0441388 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.4 = 17.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1865 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.187 = 0.935 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.4 = 30.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044149 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.437998 = 31.066 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.438 = 26.628 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001019 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.45 = 31.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 4.49 = 44.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.044149 = 0.3973 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.292 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.0435 = 1.0005 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044149 = 0.2649 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.19799799 = 1.584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082595 = 3.3864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5656 @ 0.00082549 = 4.669 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2605 @ 0.00082529 = 2.1499 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 5 @ 0.0055 = 0.0275 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.5 = 18 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0022 = 0.0044 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 70 @ 0.002013 = 0.1409 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.044149 = 0.9271 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044149 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.5 = 22.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 4.51 = 58.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.51 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.509999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.515 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.0495 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 33 @ 0.001019 = 0.0336 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.0441388 = 1.5007 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.044249 = 0.4867 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.04425 = 0.0885 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 65 @ 0.044295 = 2.8792 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.044299 = 0.7531 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.04415 = 0.6181 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.044299 = 0.1329 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.044299 = 4.4299 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.044776 = 1.4328 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 265 @ 0.044777 = 11.8659 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04415 = 0.1325 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.04443 = 1.0219 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.044777 = 2.2389 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044777 = 0.0896 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.19799899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 183 @ 0.044777 = 8.1942 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.044978 = 0.2249 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 151 @ 0.045 = 6.795 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.182001 = 0.364 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.045 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.045 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.199 = 1.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.045 = 0.675 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.045 = 0.675 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.187 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 380 @ 0.0059 = 2.242 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0449 = 0.1347 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00082595 = 1.6519 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0065 = 0.052 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04401 BTC [-]
zebedee_: Sheesh. 4.75 BTC?
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0075 = 0.03 BTC [+]
zebedee_: Unbelievable.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0085 = 0.0425 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.045 = 0.315 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.0011 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.020999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.0011 = 0.011 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.470008 = 22.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5782 @ 0.00082529 = 4.7718 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 385 @ 0.04444 = 17.1094 BTC [+]
arij: wat
arij: kakobrekla: gimme
kakobrekla: a no.
arij: who was the guy that runs btct?
ericmuyser: someones getting cheeky with their AM shares - http://o7.no/12Bud66
kakobrekla: burnside
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 18 @ 0.2 = 3.6 BTC [+]
ericmuyser: kakobrekla: sweet, you able to get them working?
kakobrekla: well i got em 10 min ago
kakobrekla: so give me a few days
ericmuyser: get to 'er
ericmuyser: gl :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0098 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ty
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.19999998 BTC [+]
arij: kakobrekla, are you getting a bunch of them? are you making boards or something? taking orders? :D
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 260 @ 0.045 = 11.7 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: well i have the capacity but dunno if theres a will
arij: so
mircea_popescu: lol
arij: can i order
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 315 @ 0.04444 = 13.9986 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: well one can order a hooker in a bakery, and you will get it, but only if its a really good bakery
kakobrekla: sorry i have been up for too long
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.500001 = 9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.5 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla : to quote my commenters, "You seem to be stark raving mad."
kakobrekla: heh
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.460001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.46 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: man
Diablo-D3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yS3cnsr6ac
ozbot: Best of AMV Hell 6.66 - YouTube
Diablo-D3: skip to 8:30
Diablo-D3: wait for the chick
Diablo-D3: why does that chick look wrong
Diablo-D3: I cant quite put my finger on it
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001099 = 0.1099 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 295 @ 0.0011 = 0.3245 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.0011 = 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.04444 = 0.0889 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if anyone is watching s.mg : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bad-error-messages-good-error-messages/#comment-93784
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 210 @ 0.045 = 9.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 118 @ 0.045 = 5.31 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.045 = 1.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.045 = 0.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.045 = 0.45 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: for the infidels dunno i would need b
kakobrekla: blah
kakobrekla: fucking paste
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.549999 = 31.85 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: this http://shrani.si/f/34/13D/1vCcNryh/imag0327.jpg
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 51 @ 0.046 = 2.346 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.55 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: what are those?
kakobrekla: fury asic
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 4.5899 = 36.7192 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.589994 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 4.6 = 46 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.045 = 1.53 BTC [+]
pankkake: oh, bitfury. I read it as furry asics
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.65 = 9.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.659 = 32.613 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol pankkake would like some furry ass-icks ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.04699 = 2.8194 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 33 @ 0.04444 = 1.4665 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 109 @ 0.044001 = 4.7961 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 858 @ 0.044 = 37.752 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0475 = 0.2375 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0475 = 0.3325 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001152 = 0.0115 BTC [+]
deadweasel: furry ass-licks? y'all need to stop smearing peanut butter on yourselves -- your pets are not sex toys!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0445 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.04499 = 0.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04499 = 0.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.04499 = 0.4949 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.047299 = 0.2365 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 70 @ 0.002323 = 0.1626 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 203 @ 0.002324 = 0.4718 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 35 @ 0.002325 = 0.0814 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.659 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.65999 = 9.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.047299 = 2.1285 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.0474 = 0.6636 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0474 = 1.3746 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.0475 = 1.2825 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6799 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.044989 = 0.135 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.044989 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.600001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.044989 = 0.09 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.6 = 9.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.195 = 1.365 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00082595 = 1.8171 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.550002 = 9.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 100 @ 0.0051 = 0.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.04848 = 0.1939 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247640.0
ozbot: SCAMHACKER TradeFortress - Alt of Pirateat40
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.028999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.029 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.04848 = 2.0362 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.550008 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.048 = 0.144 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.048 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.048 = 0.144 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: " I have concluded with 100% doubt that he is an alt of pirateat40."
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0482 = 0.0964 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0482 = 0.8194 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i was actually just thinking a few days ago, wondering why everyone trusts coinlenders
ThickAsThieves: every other loan provider does shitty, but somehow his can pay consistently
pankkake: "with 100% doubt"
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.629999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 100 @ 0.004347 = 0.4347 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.509999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.044989 = 0.5849 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 200 @ 0.0011 = 0.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 62 @ 0.04819 = 2.9878 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 62 @ 0.04819 = 2.9878 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves iirc he doesn't take very much, and scams people on ripple to make mad crazy .5 btc profits
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.629995 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235823.0
ozbot: Scammer label for Payb.tc/E&G (user 25846) (BitcoinMax)
ThickAsThieves: hanging out in the scam forum seems like a bad habit
ThickAsThieves: when i first posted in there i was like hmm i need to gtfo
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 23 @ 0.00989 = 0.2275 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.043601 = 0.218 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hanging on teh forum is a bad habit entirely.
mircea_popescu: still, it's sort of like the zoo.
mircea_popescu: gotta keep in touch with nature.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.046001 = 2.3001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.046 = 1.058 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.04785 = 0.1436 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.59 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 6 @ 0.00108 = 0.0065 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.00108 = 0.0054 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.00103 = 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.00102 = 0.0051 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 9 @ 0.001018 = 0.0092 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.001015 = 0.003 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 99 @ 0.001014 = 0.1004 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 190 @ 0.001013 = 0.1925 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 12 @ 0.001013 = 0.0122 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 571 @ 0.001012 = 0.5779 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.619998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00082595 = 2.1062 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.04775 = 0.573 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.046 = 0.69 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.195 = 0.585 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.619999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0477 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001165 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.058959 = 0.4717 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.05896 = 0.1179 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0477 = 1.0017 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.001165 = 0.0023 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.029989 = 0.2999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 11 @ 0.004354 = 0.0479 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 297 @ 0.00989 = 2.9373 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 13 @ 0.19875 = 2.5838 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.658 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 4.659 = 46.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0475 = 0.38 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: quiet ass weekend
thestringpuller: quiet ass monday
thestringpuller: you niggas need to wake up
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 7 @ 0.001165 = 0.0082 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 19 @ 0.001167 = 0.0222 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.005199 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.005199 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.047499 = 2.375 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.0475 = 2.2325 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0475 = 0.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0475 = 0.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0475 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0437 = 0.1748 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0439 = 1.0975 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0475 = 0.285 BTC [+]
davout: thestringpuller: no niggers here, sorry
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [-]
davout: thestringpuller: only proper aryans (except maybe some romanian managed to sneak in)
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 7 @ 0.001013 = 0.0071 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.001013 = 0.0101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 100 @ 0.001013 = 0.1013 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1216 @ 0.001013 = 1.2318 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 763 @ 0.00082529 = 0.6297 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6187 @ 0.00082518 = 5.1054 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.044979 = 0.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.015021 = 0.0901 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0475 = 0.095 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.66 = 23.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0475 = 0.8075 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.0475 = 0.5225 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: nigga not nigger da fuck is wrong wit u
thestringpuller: come on mang
mjr_: hi guys
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.65 BTC [-]
mjr_: does anyone have bugpowders spreadsheet?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.65 = 13.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.65 = 18.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.65 = 13.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 61 @ 0.044979 = 2.7437 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.66 = 18.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.002348 = 0.007 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.047001 = 2.3501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04691 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0469 = 0.2345 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0465 = 0.093 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0451 = 0.2706 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0475 = 0.8075 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.044969 = 0.4497 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0451 = 0.1353 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.7 = 9.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.044979 = 0.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 123 @ 0.04498 = 5.5325 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.04499 = 0.4949 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0475 = 0.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.044969 = 1.2591 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.043518 = 2.1759 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04351101 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04351 = 0.1305 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.04329 = 0.7359 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.04251188 = 2.1256 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 151 @ 0.042501 = 6.4177 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10582 @ 0.00082595 = 8.7402 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.0451 = 1.0373 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.046999 = 1.175 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.044 = 0.572 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04499 = 0.4499 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: mjr : prolly bugpowder.
mircea_popescu: davout when did froggies become aryans ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.04499 = 0.5849 BTC [+]
davout: mircea_popescu: when they started giving away all these flyers for this bike race
mircea_popescu: o i c
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.716 = 9.432 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.71699 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.718 = 9.436 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.046999 = 1.175 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.047 = 2.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 40 @ 0.001129 = 0.0452 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.729 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.729 = 18.916 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04699 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.04699 = 0.094 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.046501 = 0.279 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.019999 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.680002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.672 = 9.344 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.650001 = 32.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.65 = 9.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.64 = 13.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.6 = 18.4 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.10900, Best ask: 92.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19100, Last trade: 92.32447, 24 hour volume: 19500.36827999, 24 hour low: 91.68100, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 94.55811
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.046501 = 1.2555 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.001015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 6 @ 0.001014 = 0.0061 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 4 @ 0.001013 = 0.0041 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.046501 = 0.093 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.046501 = 0.6975 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.046501 = 0.1395 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.046501 = 0.279 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 66 @ 0.046501 = 3.0691 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.04699 = 0.5639 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.04699 = 0.2819 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.04699 = 0.188 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.0449889 = 0.5849 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 71 @ 0.0449899 = 3.1943 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.044988 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 24 @ 0.04499 = 1.0798 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.04499 = 0.5399 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.186899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 43 @ 0.002348 = 0.101 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I noticed Chaang-Noi disappeared ever since his buddy Garr255 got caught socking
ThickAsThieves: ;;seen chaang-noi
gribble: chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <Chaang-Noi> yeah mp, you are getting trolled here
mircea_popescu: it's probably more related to gold/silver getting fucked.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 5 @ 0.0051 = 0.0255 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 50 @ 0.001125 = 0.0563 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.005 = 0.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.046989 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.699999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 25 @ 0.0051 = 0.1275 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04314203 = 0.1294 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 5 @ 0.001013 = 0.0051 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 429 @ 0.001012 = 0.4341 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1024 @ 0.00101 = 1.0342 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1402 @ 0.001149 = 1.6109 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 500 @ 0.00115 = 0.575 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.61 = 13.83 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.605002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.605002 = 18.42 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.19999 = 1.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.186899 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.043156 = 0.2589 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2984 @ 0.00115 = 3.4316 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.699998 = 18.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.046989 = 0.4699 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.186999 = 0.374 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04316 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 114 @ 0.00115 = 0.1311 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.04316 = 0.5611 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.186999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.029989 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5213 @ 0.00082518 = 4.3017 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1377 @ 0.00082512 = 1.1362 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.046989 = 0.188 BTC [-]
mjr_: whats the equation for puts again?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.679998 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 12 @ 0.289 = 3.468 BTC [-]
mjr_: is jurov here?
mircea_popescu: mjr_ which one you mean ?
mjr_: was trying to graph the function
mjr_: but couldn't remember the put equation
mjr_: call is what... y = (x-strike)/strike ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.04452899 = 0.4008 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04452999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.046989 = 0.188 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.046989 = 0.094 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0449 = 1.1225 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04499 = 0.4499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.04499 = 1.3497 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yeah
mjr_: so put would be...
mircea_popescu: and (strike-x)/strike
mircea_popescu: but they are all capped at 0. positive only.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.04499 = 0.18 BTC [+]
mjr_: yeah so its abs value of the difference between strike and current
mjr_: or should i say, 24hvwap
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 68 @ 0.0465 = 3.162 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: yea
mircea_popescu: no.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.68 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: abs (2-4) is 2 whereas the proper value is 0.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 6 @ 0.005092 = 0.0306 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.7 = 18.8 BTC [+]
mjr_: ah good point
imsaguy: wtf would you know about proper?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0469 = 0.0938 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04498999 = 0.135 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1150 @ 0.0011 = 1.265 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 4.7 = 23.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 117 @ 0.009999 = 1.1699 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.009999 = 0.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.00509 = 0.0102 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.739 = 28.434 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you still around?
mircea_popescu: yes
mircea_popescu: imsaguy dun hate >D
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0466 = 0.9786 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.66 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.6061 = 9.2122 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 4.56 = 95.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.555 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 4.5542 = 63.7588 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 65 @ 4.554 = 296.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.54505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.54505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0465 = 0.093 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0465 = 0.372 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.046 = 0.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0459 = 0.6885 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0456 = 4.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0456 = 0.1368 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.04525 = 0.1358 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.045003 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.045003 = 0.09 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 193 @ 0.045 = 8.685 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 22 @ 0.0449 = 0.9878 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1323 @ 0.00082512 = 1.0916 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1827 @ 0.00082475 = 1.5068 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04460005 = 0.1338 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 45 @ 0.04460001 = 2.007 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: okay so when money is deposited into the tentative game
thestringpuller: it creates drops/loot/items/shit in general
thestringpuller: okay so my question is you will withdraw from this pool?
thestringpuller: to pay niggas?
thestringpuller: niggas being developers staff in general
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0449 = 0.4041 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: . The value of destroyed items (such as principally food, which will be required for all players) will instead cover game development and operational costs.
mircea_popescu: it's right in there you know, the 2nd paragraph of point i
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 26 @ 0.04460001 = 1.1596 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;getrating BTC0xygen
gribble: This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
mircea_popescu: ;;getrating BTCOxygen
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User BTCOxygen, rated since Sun Mar 10 13:32:15 2013. Cumulative rating 51, from 24 total ratings. Received ratings: 22 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 22 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=BTCOxygen
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 600 @ 0.045 = 27 BTC [-]
mjr_: where can i read about it?
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 110 @ 0.049418 = 5.436 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: if you mean the rpg, here http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/statements-regarding-the-mmorpg-under-development-i-v/
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: okay so there is a "subscription" cost?
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jborkl: I would steer clear aof said user IMO
jborkl: of
thestringpuller: you've solved entropa's cash flow problem
mircea_popescu: there's a sort-of subscription cost.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.46 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: well the cashflow comes from users having to "live" aka food
mircea_popescu: jborkl notably actually there's two of them here, one with an o one with a 0
mircea_popescu: yes thestringpuller.
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assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.04381 = 0.3067 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.043803 = 1.4017 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.043802 = 0.876 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.043501 = 0.87 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: entropa's problem was that there was no cashflow
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.043 = 0.258 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042801 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: people dumped money into the pool
mircea_popescu: the catch is that higher powered players will probably want the higher powered effects of food, and thus subscription for leet ppl will be higher than subscriotion for noobs.
thestringpuller: but there was no "flow"
thestringpuller: that's a little scandalous imo
mircea_popescu: whyssat ?
thestringpuller: well first answer this, can you trade for food?
thestringpuller: or moreover
mircea_popescu: yes, you trade and craft it.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.46 = 8.92 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: lemme rephrase
thestringpuller: are there any "unique" destroyable items in the game that are destroyable
thestringpuller: by unique I mean player bound
thestringpuller: as in the player can not relinquish it
mircea_popescu: nope.
thestringpuller: okay then it's not so scandalous
mircea_popescu: there are no bound items in general, that's bullshit/nonsense made by bad designers
mircea_popescu: to try and stem the tide
mircea_popescu: anyway, re food : you can live your entire life on iron rats.
mircea_popescu: it's just if you want tio have a bottle of elven wine or w/e, well... it's gonna cost you more. deal with it or else go back to springwater
mircea_popescu: sorta like irl, you can live on army rations just fine.
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thestringpuller: that wasn't really my point
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.45 = 8.9 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ah
thestringpuller: so if you use the emergence to your advantage there could be a n00b that rises to power without depositing any money at all
mircea_popescu: sure.
thestringpuller: which makes it less scandalous imo
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.46 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: he trades and uses skill to go from pusherman to godfather
thestringpuller: similar to the anarchy of eve
mircea_popescu: many will try, few will succeed, life moves right on
thestringpuller: well sure
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0449 = 0.3143 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: but the emergence will be your friend you realize this no?
mjr_: hmmm, so would it be potentially possible to profit by playing?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.04460001 = 0.3568 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: what you mean by emergence ?
mircea_popescu: mjr_ yes.
mjr_: very cool
mjr_: i like this already
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 3.35 = 33.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0449 = 0.3592 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it;'s for bitcoin ffs. how else ?
thestringpuller: emergent gameplay is created by the game doing things the designer didn't intend but exists anyways
thestringpuller: eve's anarchy is a textbook example
thestringpuller: it just happens
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller im of a diff philosophy. it's not my job to micromanage the player/make poaths etc.
mircea_popescu: it's my job to crerate a level playing field.
thestringpuller: but that's what I'm getting at
mircea_popescu: right
thestringpuller: you see with emergence the players create their own world so to speak
mircea_popescu: exactly the idea.
mjr_: that is a great strategy
thestringpuller: that's why Eve remains successful in the face of WoW
mircea_popescu: probably taken to extremes as players will be able to create their own code/gfx etc too
mircea_popescu: course they kinda suck at it so far, but hey.
mircea_popescu: mebbe in time
thestringpuller: you should watch an anime called .hack//sign
mjr_: if you capture a small portion of WoW players in china it will be a smashing success
mjr_: and i think you are doing that
thestringpuller: that's pretty much what your game will become
mjr_: by introducing monetization
mjr_: i would "recommend" reading REAMDE, it talks a lot about such things and I hope this becomes something like that
mircea_popescu: cool then
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thestringpuller: what you'll have is stuff appearing in the code you never thought could exist
imsaguy: but will there be blocks out of which we can build things?!?!
thestringpuller: get the fuck out of here imsaguy with that minecraft shit
mircea_popescu: imsaguy the usual. blender. what have you
mircea_popescu: most of the code is open source anyway
imsaguy: will there be zombies?
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.029989 = 0.2999 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: get the fuck out of here with that left 4 dead shit imsaguy
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: jkjk
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.045 = 9 BTC [+]
imsaguy: thestringpuller: hey assmuch, there are a lot more games than left4dead that have zombies.
mircea_popescu: so apparently the forum has a hole in it allowing acct hijacks
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.045 = 0.18 BTC [+]
imsaguy: assmunch*
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: as expected.
mircea_popescu: imsaguy eventually.
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: as expected (again).
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: so how will players build things? as imsaguy alluded to, the crafting...
mircea_popescu: most of the game content will depend on the playerbase in-game building towards it.
mircea_popescu: as in finding recipes and whatnot.
thestringpuller: okay but how?
imsaguy: recipes?
thestringpuller: resources in ground?
imsaguy: wtf is this? the foodnetwork game?
mircea_popescu: for one, yes, resources in the ground.
thestringpuller: cooking mama
mircea_popescu: but if you want the nice sword the orcs have either you trade with them
imsaguy: diner dash 2.0
mircea_popescu: or else bash them, steal the swords, copy the design
imsaguy: one does not trade with orcs
imsaguy: the only trading with an orc you do is once its dead.
mircea_popescu: then enjoy being an orc cocksock.
thestringpuller: one does not simply walk into orc-land
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.045 = 0.765 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.46899 = 8.938 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.46899 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.469 = 8.938 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: so mircea_popescu so resources are finite based on btc flow?
mircea_popescu: yes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.0446 = 1.561 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0446 = 0.4014 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: yay there will be cartels!!!!!!
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: so i don't know mircea_popescu if you've played eve
mircea_popescu: well actually, the idea is all towns will be player made/controlled
thestringpuller: but there was this war they had
mircea_popescu: so will be various means of transportation (roads, teleports, what have you)
thestringpuller: yea so mircea_popescu you will have cartels guarenteed
thestringpuller: but this will depend on playerbase
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i was invited in the beta of eq2 and wow - they came out about the same time
benkay_: cartels make for more fun
thestringpuller: the more players the more fun
mircea_popescu: they both sucked, imo. quit before they opened for public
benkay_: try playing eve solo
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: benkay_: Not fun at all
mircea_popescu: esp the eq crafting system was retarded.
mircea_popescu: well the wow too, but from wow i didn't expect anything
mircea_popescu: blizzard never got crafting, fuck the horadrim cube.
thestringpuller: da fuck?
thestringpuller: that's d2
mircea_popescu: so ?
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thestringpuller: d2 didn't need no stinkin' crafting
thestringpuller: d2 is crack
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 2 @ 0.049418 = 0.0988 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i don't argue that.
thestringpuller: you play it for 2 hours get your fix and then shake in the corner
mircea_popescu: but if you want to be a d2 crafter... gl lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 19 @ 0.0449 = 0.8531 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 435 @ 0.0011 = 0.4785 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.045 = 0.675 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.045 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.045 = 0.315 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 4.5 = 103.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9073 @ 0.00082475 = 7.483 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2327 @ 0.00082467 = 1.919 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04489999 = 0.449 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: s.mg june statement if anyone wants to weigh in on btc accounting standards >> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/smg-june-2013-statement/
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.045 BTC [+]
furuknap: ;;nethash
gribble: 168888.580036
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu has anyone besides myself approached you for publishing?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yes.
davout: mircea_popescu: why don't you present the usual assets/liabilities balance sheet in addition to the cash flows and accounts list ?
thestringpuller: nice what will the publishing platform look like?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.04489999 = 0.3592 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: davout cause i figured this is much shorter, easier to read and easier to comprehend by even moderately literate business ppl.
mircea_popescu: do you think anything gets hurt ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller how do you mean ?
thestringpuller: someone brings you game
thestringpuller: it is sellable
thestringpuller: how does S.MG publish?
thestringpuller: you going to go door to door in romania?
thestringpuller: :P
mircea_popescu: depends on the game, really.
thestringpuller: my game for instance a 2d standalone
mircea_popescu: which is frustratingly vague, yes, i know
thestringpuller: i guess we will see next week
thestringpuller: :D
mircea_popescu: hehe k
thestringpuller: lemme ask this
thestringpuller: what is the max cut S.MG would take...
thestringpuller: i know that is negotiable
thestringpuller: but humor me :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.045 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 18 @ 0.000864 = 0.0156 BTC [-]
davout: mircea_popescu: i think an assets/liabilities is quite useful, i think it gives a quite synthetic and understandable picture of the situation, it is expected by people who are used to accounting, and is easy enough to understand for anyone who has any business reading financial statements anyway
mircea_popescu: it's negotiable in the following sense. you have a game which we suppose agree took 1k btc to make. if we agree it's sensible i spend 1k btc pushing it then i expect half the revenue.
mircea_popescu: if we agree it makes no sense to spend over 100 btc then i want something like 10%
thestringpuller: but you said you don't like advertising...
mircea_popescu: the numeric application is only there to make the point
thestringpuller: I see
mircea_popescu: what i like makes no difference, this is biznis neh ?
davout: thestringpuller: i tell my friends i don't like fat chicks
thestringpuller: harharharhar
mircea_popescu: davout you perhaps jhave a good point here
thestringpuller: u guise
thestringpuller: but fat chicks are kinda good in bed if they aren't too fat
thestringpuller: "Curvy"
mircea_popescu: davout you figure turn the present "accounts" thing into more of a normal balance ?
davout: mircea_popescu: something that sums to zero is, and has always been the easiest thing to check
davout: mircea_popescu: take your accounts list
mircea_popescu: okay. i kinda have to ditch the start/change/end format then,
mircea_popescu: but i guess that's kind of redundant anyway
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: your model reminds me of the 80's
thestringpuller: when people would take a floppy
davout: no, because you put it in front of the capital
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller 1880s ?
thestringpuller: and put it up in the local story
thestringpuller: store*
davout: the best is to have it all
mircea_popescu: davout well the best that has it all is the 500 page ifrs
davout: take your accounts list, add a column, toss the capital on the right side, poof, sums to zero
mircea_popescu: i don't think 500 page reports are actually useful in btc atm
mircea_popescu: hm
davout: mircea_popescu: when did my additional table turn into 500 pages ? :-)
mircea_popescu: may i bitch ?
davout: mircea_popescu: don't you already pay someone for this ?
davout: mircea_popescu: man up and send her
davout: XD
davout: okay, be my guest
thestringpuller: she doesn't like IRC
thestringpuller: she's afraid of real time interaction
thestringpuller: cause all the nerds will try to get in her pants
davout: thestringpuller: they all bleed a bit the first time you know
thestringpuller: yup
mircea_popescu: davout http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/smg-june-2013-statement/
mircea_popescu: how do you like that ?
thestringpuller: unbeknownst to us MPOE-PR is eavesdropping here
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you made me use a credit to refresh the page
thestringpuller: come on
thestringpuller: ol
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: jkjk
mircea_popescu: as they say in washington dc,
mircea_popescu: fuck you, pay me.
davout: mircea_popescu: i am pleased
mircea_popescu: do you perhaps want me to add charges for the warrants too ?
davout: mircea_popescu: i'm more used to have it presented in two different columns but the info is here
davout: btw is there any difference between "shareholders equity" and "capital" or are they synonyms ?
mircea_popescu: ya well, i can't make 12 columns as i don't want to turn my blog into an aicraft carrier
mircea_popescu: not synonims, no
davout: mircea_popescu: yea, that was just me whining
mircea_popescu: but no difference either.
mircea_popescu: capital is usually short for operating capital
davout: the way i define capital is "the debt to the shareholders"
mircea_popescu: that's nonsense, as the shareholders aren't owed any btc.
davout: operating capital would be something else by me, but that might just be my english
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davout: capital is a liability to the shareholders
mircea_popescu: yes it is
davout: so ? what are we arguing?
mircea_popescu: but an equitable point, rather than an owed debt
mircea_popescu: we're aguing incredibly fine points of legalese.
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 50 @ 0.0291 = 1.455 BTC [-]
davout: mircea_popescu: i'm getting hard, let's go on
mircea_popescu: basically the shareholders have no title claim to the capital they put in
mircea_popescu: but merely an equitable claim
mircea_popescu: in the simplest translation of common law that even a napoleonic lout might get, they don't have tyhe right to THAT capital. just to something equivalent, as practicable.
mircea_popescu: the distinction comes fromwhether you can claim to be given THE lost sheep, or A sheep in place of THE sheep.
davout: i'm not sure of the nuance you're making here but if it's something saying that the shareholder can't simply knock on the door and get the nominal value of his share paid to him then i agree :-)
mircea_popescu: something like that yes.
davout: word
mircea_popescu: it has plenty of implications.
davout: i'm not really sure about what you said earlier about the warrants
davout: yea, it's not "debt", guess i misused the word :-)
mircea_popescu: technically speaking they should be in the accounts as they're a materially different situation than simply not existing
davout: the warrants ?
mircea_popescu: exactly HOW you account for outstanding warrants however...
davout: i need to re-read how they are defined
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.045 = 0.27 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: right to acquire shares at specified price after specified date.
davout: like a stock option, right ?
mircea_popescu: exactly.
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1000 @ 0.00103 = 1.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.550006 = 13.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 230 @ 0.00101 = 0.2323 BTC [-]
davout: very good question
mircea_popescu: ty ty
davout: is there any form of risk associated for MG ?
mircea_popescu: yes. for instance, it could suck.
davout: no, i mean, will the shares be created out of thin air ?
davout: or will they be bought
davout: ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.5 = 9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 4.5 = 18 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bought at the price. having a warrant for 1 share at 1 btc means you pay 1 btc get the share
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.599951 = 13.7999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.045 = 0.225 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the only catch is that the par value of that share by then MAY be higher
davout: that's not what I mean
davout: will the shares be summoned into existence by MG or will MG buy the shares at market price and resell them to the holders of a warrant at the agreed-upon price ?
mircea_popescu: the former.
mircea_popescu: basically, the us govt bonds are in fact us govt stock warrants
davout: ok, so there's zero risk for MG
mircea_popescu: whenever they come due they just issue more dollarsd and pay
davout: let's not get into this right now
mircea_popescu: ok :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 72 @ 0.00107 = 0.077 BTC [+]
davout: there's zero risk for MG, the ones actually bearing a risk are the shareholders, not MG
davout: there's really nothing to provision
mircea_popescu: there may be nothing to provision in that perspective, however,
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.00107 = 0.0021 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.04489999 = 0.1796 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it could be argued that a company with issued sws is worth less than the same w/o having issued them
mircea_popescu: this has to be accounted as this is the point of accountingh
davout: just account for it as exceptional revenue when it comes in, if it does, any loss relative to the par market price will be borne by shareholders getting diluted at a bargain
mircea_popescu: that yes.
davout: mircea_popescu: it doesn't have to be accounted for per-se, but the warrants list has to come with the financial statements, because as you said it is something that needs to be taken into account to get a full picture of the company
mircea_popescu: anyway. i did include a disclosure, so.
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1 @ 0.00107 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: right.
davout: which is good, the contrary wouldn't have been right
davout: it starts getting fun when you think that management might want to cover the "unfair" dilution risk by hedging the warrants using inside information
davout: especially if said management holds shares :-)
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 14 @ 0.19999 = 2.7999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: management holds a shitton of warrants in the first place
davout: lol
mircea_popescu: which kinda hedges the entire thing
mircea_popescu: well... one of the advantages of management getting ssws in the first place.
davout: you lost me here
davout: is the motivation to get a god deal on them
mircea_popescu: well, play out an example for me.
davout: YOU lost me
davout: YOU play an example
davout: just one question
mircea_popescu: ok. company A has 100 shares issued, of which managwement owns 10. company A has 100 shares issued as sws to mnanagement
mircea_popescu: now what's management to hedge re its 10 issued shares ?
davout: why would it want to hedge them against getting diluted since it also owns 10x more warrants ?
mircea_popescu: exactly.
davout: (and i read that correctly on the MG statement, you have as much outstanding warrants than issued shares, right?)
mircea_popescu: so the issuing of sws to managemend hedges against this situation you described
mircea_popescu: as IPO issued yes.
davout: doesn't this somehow equate to the management not really acting in the shareholder's interest ?
mircea_popescu: i imagine exactly the contrary.
mircea_popescu: how do you fiugre ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.045 = 2.385 BTC [+]
davout: dunno, it was a legitimate question
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04460001 = 0.1338 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 31 @ 0.0446 = 1.3826 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 144 @ 0.044529 = 6.4122 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 104 @ 0.04452899 = 4.631 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well, if share value drops management has nothing.
mircea_popescu: if share value doubles management realises half that gain, investors the other half
davout: hmm
davout: guess it requires some additionnal brain crunching here :-)
davout: anyway, i had a question regarding the financial statements
mircea_popescu: simple example : A and B meet to make a fishery. A contributes 100 BTC gets 100 shares, B is going to fish, gets 100 sws at 1.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 55 @ 0.288201 = 15.8511 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: if at the end the fishery is worth 200 btc,
mircea_popescu: then B brings 100 btc in, gets his 100 shares, and now a 300 btc corp is divided to 200 shares
mircea_popescu: each getting 150 and going home
davout: explained like that it sounds about right :-)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.599938 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: was the idea anyway
davout: okay, other question
davout: why don't you start amortising (spellt that way) the server right away ?
davout: (spellt that way?)
mircea_popescu: lol
davout: ugh
davout: bon, pourquoi tu commences pas à l'amortir tout de suite ton serveur ?
mircea_popescu: pque amortissements au fin d'un interval non ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.002348 = 1.174 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 191 @ 0.04452899 = 8.505 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: actually let's switch back to english, ppl will be trying to translate your frogspeak for no avail
kakobrekla: le sujet est maintenant brouettes
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.045 = 0.18 BTC [+]
davout: either you account for them on a monthly basis (which i've never seen, but this is BTC after all) or on a yearly basis, you seem to go for the former, so my question is "why don't you start accounting for an expense of 1/12th of the server value on month #1"
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 225 @ 0.045 = 10.125 BTC [+]
davout: also you're amortising on one year IIUC which is quite creative :-)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.55 = 9.1 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: because i'm of the school that the respective charge belongs in month 2 and is reported in month 2
davout: kakobrekla: la brouette moldave, ma position sexuelle préférée
mircea_popescu: as in, amortisation only after a FULL period
mircea_popescu: if its after a full period it can;'t be reported in the respective period
kakobrekla: lol ok davout
davout: it represents an expense on month #1 too since you probably need it for dev purposes, and it's ok to prorate
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.044 = 0.748 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i could prorate, i just don't see that i'd have to.
davout: why are you amortising in the first place btw ?
mircea_popescu: because if you liquidate today you have a server worth x
davout: yeah, I'm just asking questions :-)
mircea_popescu: and if you liquidate in 6 months you have a server worth x/2
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044 = 0.264 BTC [-]
davout: yes, whip me
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.001081 = 0.0216 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 22 @ 0.00105 = 0.0231 BTC [-]
davout: so then, why one year? i don't know with other countries but in france you usually amortise IT stuff on 3 years, the rest on 5 and buildings on 20
mircea_popescu: cause i got it for a year.
davout: you're getting me confused, did you buy it? for one year?
mircea_popescu: yes ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.044 = 0.176 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.7448 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.04301 = 0.6882 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.042801 = 1.6692 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.0428 = 1.0272 BTC [-]
davout: like to me it sounds contradictory, either you rent for a limited time, or you buy and it's yours forevar
mircea_popescu: that sounds a little nutty. what's leasing in this approach ?
mircea_popescu: and what's "forever" mean.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.044 = 1.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 17 @ 0.186999 = 3.179 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.185 = 0.37 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.015021 = 0.0601 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 3.4 = 27.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.505 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.045 = 0.315 BTC [+]
benkay: what happens at the end of the year?
benkay: do you have to give box back to another entity?
davout: did you buy the physical box? or did you buy the right to use it for one year, it think that's the question
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.51 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.04488 = 0.763 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the later
davout: ok, that's what i call "renting"
mircea_popescu: benkay yeah. because i don't want to be stuck with one year odl boxes.
mircea_popescu: they go on to run shared servers or w/e loosened out boxes do in this life.
davout: to a french person, leasing is like some stuff you do usually with cars where you pay a fat premium the first month, and then rent it
mircea_popescu: actually... they probably end up sold to the government
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.545 BTC [+]
davout: so yeah, i don't really understand why you'd amortise something that you do not own
davout: since it's not going to stay in your books as an asset
mircea_popescu: well it is... for a year.
davout: and it's accounted under "tangibles"
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 60 @ 0.187 = 11.22 BTC [+]
davout: when you have amortised something, that this something reaches a zero accounting value, that means you still own the physical thing
davout: which is consistent with accounting for it under "tangibles"
mircea_popescu: so i have a special knapsack where i keep the 0 value items ?
davout: an item that has a 0 accounting value may still have a shitton of utility value
davout: the proper way to account for this is to write an expense under "IT services"
mircea_popescu: the rationale behind that separation between "tangibles" and "intangibles and goodwill" was that some items have a resale value. these are tangible.
mircea_popescu: some others do not or not necessarily. these are intangible.
mircea_popescu: davout yes it would be, at the cost of making a more extensive account plan than "cash", "type 1" and "type 2"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 160 @ 0.04452899 = 7.1246 BTC [-]
davout: to me tangible is something i can touch, in my understanding IP is intangible yet it can be resold
davout: it might just be a language problem here
mircea_popescu: well arguably you can touch myserver
davout: except it's not yours
davout: you didn't buy it
mircea_popescu: ...
davout: you bought the right to use it for one year
mircea_popescu: well in this sense the house you own is not "yours" as you only have fee simple on it.
mircea_popescu: i own it, under a certain title.
davout: can you resell the box ? no, so what you bought is a service, tracking its accounting value makes no real sense
benkay: at the end of amortization, you don't have a thing to sell for scrap value.
mircea_popescu: yes i can
mircea_popescu: of course i can resell it. it's mine ><
davout: no you can resell the remainder of your one year period
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.0047 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: right
asciilifeform: you don't really own land unless you have 'Infangthief' on it!
davout: the box is not yours, the service is, you can resell the service, but you don't usually amortise IT services like this (which is another way of saying it's horribly wrong)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044999 = 0.09 BTC [-]
benkay: mp amortizes how he wants yo
mircea_popescu: ok, here's the concept. i spent some BTC.
mircea_popescu: these btc can't be taken as a one time charge, as they reflect a multi-period thing
mircea_popescu: it matches the amortisation just whine what are you whining about!
davout: meh
mircea_popescu: no but i mean, is there something lost ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00082595 = 2.9734 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: (i mean it matches the amortisation just fine*)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.044999 = 0.63 BTC [-]
davout: the whole "it can't be taken as a one time charge" is relevant when you use expenses to reduce your net result as a way to reduce your taxes, i don't think it has much relevance in BTC-LAND
davout: whoops
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 30 @ 0.019999 = 0.6 BTC [-]
davout: anyway, like you said, it doesn't really matter that much
mircea_popescu: well it may grow to matter in time
davout: if I was you I would account it as an expense every month
mircea_popescu: one of the reasons im doing this is to sound out some sort of accounting/reporting scheme for nonzero asset companies
davout: it also depends on whether you already shelled the money out
mircea_popescu: so the poring is much appreciated
davout: i'll sell you a full accounting piece of software
davout: XD
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.044999 = 1.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044999 = 0.27 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: as to the relevance :it's not just taxes. why should a shareholder that buys now get the benefit of an arbitrary charge for 1 year ?
davout: which i used for accounting at my first startup
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: tyvm. i'm trying to reinvent the wheel deliberately. both gaap and irfs suck.
davout: but how does your way of accounting change that? doesn't the server already exist ?
mircea_popescu: yes, it does already exist
davout: so, i'm not sure what your way of accounting changes
davout: especially since what i'm saying is just : "do the same thing, just use different words"
mircea_popescu: well let's look at it. company has 100 btc. it buys "the right to use a boat for 1 year" for 50.
mircea_popescu: what's the value of the company next month ? 50 + whatever it fished or 50 + whatever it fished + 50 * 11 / 12 ?
benkay: now that makes sense
mircea_popescu: so that's the concept.
davout: i guess latter
davout: yeah, i see where you come from
mircea_popescu: now, i agree this is at least attackable from a "standard accounting" perspective,
mircea_popescu: for a number of reasons. i just don't think they actually work.
davout: i don't know how exactly to express this, but i think that somehow you're trying to get accounting to do something it's not really supposed to
davout: if you paid the hosting fee monthly it wouldn't be an issue at all
davout: as in, we wouldn't have this debate
mircea_popescu: yeah but the shit is, hosting is this complex fucking industry
mircea_popescu: wherein all sorts of weird constrainsts operate. like, nobody wants used gear. everyone wants to own geaer. nobody wants to pay for anything.
mircea_popescu: if i don't guarantee usage the provider won't open new boxes of gear for me.
mircea_popescu: if i do guarantee usage it makes no sense to pretend im paying monthly, and it actually helps his cash flow a ton to pay him upfront
mircea_popescu: etfc.
davout: that's where the MP aura stops I guess :-)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1464 @ 0.00082561 = 1.2087 BTC [-]
davout: well, tbh the way you're accounting for it makes much more sense if explained that way
davout: i may be able to live with it
davout: maybe
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 9 @ 0.00101 = 0.0091 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: anyway, next month i'll charge domain names
mircea_popescu: these I OWN
mircea_popescu: and they will amortise over...
mircea_popescu: a year.
davout: does one ever own a domain ?
mircea_popescu: well wtf.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044998 BTC [-]
davout: XD
mircea_popescu: yeah. so you know... accounting gotta meet internet at some point.
davout: word
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.019501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 39 @ 0.019501 = 0.7605 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.044998 = 0.405 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.044999 = 0.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7694 @ 0.00082561 = 6.3522 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 315 @ 0.00082467 = 0.2598 BTC [-]
davout: well, i'm off, ttyl all
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044002 = 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.044001 = 0.572 BTC [-]
error4738: :davout Bonne chance !
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.044999 = 0.225 BTC [+]
error4738: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.10502, Best ask: 89.12999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02497, Last trade: 89.12999, 24 hour volume: 42825.80763141, 24 hour low: 88.75001, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 92.10373
error4738: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 26202984 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9748770.74663 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0068 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 6 @ 0.049418 = 0.2965 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.1869 = 0.5607 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.187 = 0.561 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.044999 = 0.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 5 @ 0.0291 = 0.1455 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 14 @ 0.029 = 0.406 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 23 @ 0.019999 = 0.46 BTC [+]
error4738: see u soon 100$, you was a good mate !
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.509999 = 3.06 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.51 = 5.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.515 = 5.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.517799 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5178 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.5178 BTC [+]
furuknap: ;;next
gribble: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
furuknap: I would bet it still said "expecting retest of 88"
furuknap: Of course, sooner or later that would be true :-)
furuknap: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1hfyao/100th_having_problems_delivering_pcb_assembly/ <- They're two weeks delayed...
benkay: i have a bet coming due next monday. btc trading above 70. wasn't concerned at the time of bet, am slightly concerned now.
benkay: that said "concerned" is relative, stakes are several rounds of beer.
benkay: i don't gamble like you crazie
benkay: crazies
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P101T] 650 @ 0.64936888 = 422.0898 BTC [+]
furuknap: Who are you calling crazy? HELP, THE BANANAS ARE TRYING TO EAT ME! QUICK! GIVE ME THAT TOILET SEAT!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 432 @ 0.0444 = 19.1808 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.505 = 13.515 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.5 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 91.59311, Best ask: 91.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.38689, Last trade: 92.14290, 24 hour volume: 43495.29781796, 24 hour low: 88.75001, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 92.08325
mircea_popescu: !t m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 61.23802783 / 62.69294856 / 114.42277287 (835 shares, 434.58 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63 @ 0.00082595 = 0.052 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10688 @ 0.00082661 = 8.8348 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: for srs.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1911 @ 0.00082698 = 1.5804 BTC [+]
furuknap: I have no idea what you just said, which, I'm sure, is why I don't have an account on MPEx.
mircea_popescu: <D
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000999 = 0.002 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.0011 = 0.0033 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.187 = 0.748 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044999 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.044999 = 0.225 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0442 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 27 @ 0.002348 = 0.0634 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.044999 = 0.72 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 229 @ 0.0442 = 10.1218 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.044 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.045 = 1.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 4727 @ 0.00016875 = 0.7977 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 90 @ 0.045 = 4.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.044 = 0.176 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00082467 = 3.9584 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 33 @ 0.002299 = 0.0759 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.180003 = 1.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.180002 = 0.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 65 @ 0.044 = 2.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.045 = 4.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 55 @ 0.299999 = 16.4999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.044 = 0.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0442 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.00499 = 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.187 = 1.87 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.499893 = 13.4997 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.499897 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 138 @ 0.0442 = 6.0996 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04487989 = 0.1346 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 4.5 = 13.5 BTC [+]
taub_: price :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044998 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.044999 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 4.5 = 27 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0444 = 0.1776 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.008 = 0.024 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 396 @ 0.0444 = 17.5824 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082478 = 3.3816 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10187 @ 0.00082698 = 8.4244 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00082736 = 2.9785 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0448799 = 4.488 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.02998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 45 @ 0.04488 = 2.0196 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 88 @ 0.04488 = 3.9494 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04488 = 0.4488 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0449 = 0.449 BTC [+]
deadweasel: just removed a brown recluse from my bedroom. i guess that's a win!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.04498999 = 1.8446 BTC [+]
bitcollapse: hi guys when are the sdice and bbet dividends due
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 900 @ 0.0011 = 0.99 BTC [+]
davout: bitcollapse: have you looked on their respective asset pages ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.0449 = 1.796 BTC [-]
bitcollapse: yes it should be today for sdice?
bitcollapse: ugh, bitcoins exchange infrastructure is collapsing
davout: look again, it seems it has been published
davout: wut?
bitcollapse: alot of exchangers like aurumxchange are out of business
bitcollapse: fastcash4bitcoins
bitcollapse: and bitinstant is now nothing more then a bad paypal it requires absurd ID requirements
davout: bitcollapse: lol
bitcollapse: how come paypal can transmit money and not ask for ID uploads?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.546 BTC [+]
davout: you obviously don't have the slightest clue of what you're talking about...
bitcollapse: explain davout
bitcollapse: bitinstant requires an account now with ID verification
bitcollapse: that just tosses out any bitcoin privacy and makes it worse then a bank
davout: the various laws don't usually give the slightest shit about your privacy
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.044899 = 2.1103 BTC [-]
bitcollapse: davout yes but if a bitcoin adress is linked to an ID
bitcollapse: its permanent public information
davout: yet, as an exchange you have to follow them, unless you want to live a quite painful experience
davout: so what ?
bitcollapse: bitinstant isnt an exchange
bitcollapse: why doesnt paypal require ID documents uploaded?
pigeons: they do
bitcollapse: no they dont you can open one with a credit card or bank account
bitcollapse: but they never ask for ID unless its very business specific
davout: bitcollapse: opening an account != keeping an account open
davout: they do
davout: for a very simple reason
bitcollapse: when?
davout: because the law requires them to
bitcollapse: for my paypal they didnt ask anything
pigeons: when you try to use it
davout: your personal experience can hardly be generalized
bitcollapse: ive been using it for years they just verified me with a automated phone call
pigeons: maybe it takes a year, but they will get to it
bitcollapse: ive never had to submit documents to paypal
davout: maybe your not moving that much
bitcollapse: bitinstant doesnt move much either for personal accounts
bitcollapse: they have low max's yet require absurd ID's
davout: and keep in mind that they indirectly ID you since they get the information from your various payment means
bitcollapse: the point is ID's dont work well with bitcoin because adress's are public knowledge
bitcollapse: nobody can see my paypal activity except paypal
davout: bitcollapse: that's a good one
pigeons: and nsa
bitcollapse: sure and government
bitcollapse: but not everyone
davout: bitcollapse: no offense, but you have no idea of what you're talking about
bitcollapse: bitcoin adress linked to ID is even more dangerous
jcpham: hi
bitcollapse: dabout how dont i?
pigeons: bitcollapse: then don't do it
bitcollapse: the anonymous bitcoin exchange methods are crumbling
bitcollapse: hence the price decline going along with it
pigeons: that isnt suprising to anyone
jcpham: pigeons sent me a copy of his ID for safe keeping
jcpham: total trust
pigeons: my feathers look bad in that picture though
bitcollapse: pigeons i like the concept of bitcoin
bitcollapse: but i dont like having an ID linked to a public adress
pigeons: then dont
bitcollapse: where all transactions can be traced extremely easily
bitcollapse: easier then any bank
mircea_popescu: <bitcollapse> and bitinstant is now nothing more then a bad paypal it requires absurd ID requirements <<< details ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 176 @ 0.0448799 = 7.8989 BTC [-]
pigeons: and its as private as your paypal info, you arent giving that address to anyone but bitinstant
bitcollapse: id ont get why bitcoiners are going along with it
bitcollapse: mircea_popescu: before using bitinstant was easy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 869 @ 0.04499 = 39.0963 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 466 @ 0.045 = 20.97 BTC [+]
bitcollapse: you walked into a walmart and filled out a moneygram form
pigeons: mircea_popescu: http://blog.bitinstant.com/blog/2013/6/30/website-update.html
bitcollapse: now they require an account and all sorts of ID
davout: bitcollapse: open your own exchange, get some experience, then you will understand
bitcollapse: charlie shrem is a sell out
pigeons: bitcollapse: they are going along with it to stay out of jail
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.044898 = 0.7633 BTC [-]
pigeons: oh why bitcoins sorry
bitcollapse: why? you dont need to show an ID when you are buying walmart goods
pigeons: i thought you said bitinstant
mircea_popescu: "We have temporarily limited transactions in some locations, and we apologize for the inconvenience. "
pigeons: how do you know bitcoiners are going along with it
mircea_popescu: heh. not list the locations. these people just won't fucking learn what open means already
pigeons: maybe bitinstant will go out of business
bitcollapse: bitcoin is not defined as a financial instrument anywhere
pigeons: comon
pigeons: you know thats silly
jcpham: must be fake
peterl: if it quacks like a duck ...
bitcollapse: if i buy electronics at walmart and trade them for drugs does walmart need to ID me everytime i buy them?
mircea_popescu: that'd be because it's not a financial instrument.
peterl: it must be a pidgeon, right?
bitcollapse: exactly mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: it's game gold.
mircea_popescu: your DOLLARS however, ARE a financial instrument.
bitcollapse: yes
bitcollapse: but i dont get IDed buying stuff with dollars
mircea_popescu: so stop trying to trade that shit for bitcoin and nobody cares about your id anymore.
mircea_popescu: yes, actually, you do.
pigeons: solved
mircea_popescu: this because dollars are shit.
bitcollapse: when mircea?
mircea_popescu: try getting some cough medicine.
asciilifeform: all this talk of IDs at store counters will seem nostalgically quaint when start needing a working RFID beacon just to pass through public doorways.
mircea_popescu: or a gun or a car
mircea_popescu: or a house or a hotel stay
bitcollapse: mircea_popescu: when i purchase goods in stores nobody records all my ID info
mircea_popescu: or what-ever-the-fuck-else.
mircea_popescu: yes, they do.
pigeons: cameras on the razor blade isle recording who touches it
mircea_popescu: just because you imagine your life currently works a certain way dun make it so.
bitcollapse: nobody asks for an ID when i bought a car only when i get a license plate
pigeons: hahahahha
davout: lol
bitcollapse: i bought cars privately and nobody IDed me
mircea_popescu: the onl;y time they don't ask for your id when you're using dollars
pigeons: dont get me started on trying to buy a car
mircea_popescu: is if they have it already.
davout: bitcollapse: seriously, i give you 6/10, now go away, i was having a good time
mircea_popescu: this is what dollars are.
bitcollapse: mircea_popescu: nobody IDed me buying electronics.
bitcollapse: bitinstant is treating bitcoin as some sort of advanced highly defined/regulated instrument
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform myeah.
mircea_popescu: bitcollapse no dude. buitcoin is treating dollars like the shit they are.
bitcollapse: where are the US laws regarding bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: they didn't use to, on the grounds that maybe they're like bitcoin
mircea_popescu: guess what ? they aren;'t.
mircea_popescu: tada.
mircea_popescu: jesus he just won't get it will he.
mircea_popescu: ITS THE DOLLARS.
bitcollapse: yes i understand
bitcollapse: why arent my gasoline purchases recorded then with an ID
mircea_popescu: there's ~500000000 pages of regulations regarding the dollars.
davout: mircea_popescu: (make it more generic, he'll come back later bitching about EUR exchanges)
asciilifeform: when you use currency minted by an empire, you are buying into its philosophy (if one dare call it that) - like it or not.
mircea_popescu: what, people buy bitcoin for eur now ?!
bitcollapse: mircea_popescu: theres no laws requiring merchants to RECORD ID on EVERY single product.
mircea_popescu: yes, there is.
bitcollapse: produce it
jcpham: not yet
mircea_popescu: ;;google tax code
gribble: Tax Code, Regulations and Official Guidance: <http://www.irs.gov/Tax-Professionals/Tax-Code,-Regulations-and-Official-Guidance>; USC : Title 26 - INTERNAL REVENUE CODE | US Code | LII / Legal: <http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26>; U.S. Tax Code - Fourmilab: <http://www.fourmilab.ch/ustax/ustax.html>
davout: mircea_popescu: not anymore i'm afraid
bitcollapse: ID requirements are clearly defined on high risk purchases ie chemicals
pigeons: recently there was contaminated food sold in my area, so the polic got the records from the supermarket loyalty discount card program to contact potentially affect shoppers
bitcollapse: mircea_popescu: the tax code only requries merchants to keep books and records of sales NOT who they sold too.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.045 = 1.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 981 @ 0.044991 = 44.1362 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 22 @ 0.04499 = 0.9898 BTC [-]
pigeons: argue in #bitinstant
mircea_popescu: look. i'm not responsible for your 1915ish notions on regulation.
davout: i'm off, these funny captioned pictures don't just watch themselves
mircea_popescu: davout also try the cock.
davout: wut
bitcollapse: mircea_popescu i think you are somewhat delusional. I can walk into a store and purchase goods with paper cash and nobody will ID me.
mircea_popescu: au vin.
mircea_popescu: well... enjoy it while it lasts, like any other illusion
bitcollapse: theres no regulations specific to bitcoin being a highly sensitive item ie. explosives, drugs etc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0445 = 0.445 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it's the other way around.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.044899 = 0.8082 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the regulations are as to the us dollars being useless, not as to bitcoin.
bitcollapse: everyone is applying rules that dont exist to bitcoin
asciilifeform: bitcollapse: think of it more like 'warez'
mircea_popescu: what's with this backwards view all the time
mircea_popescu: dude. THEY ARE NOT BEING APPLIED TO BITCOIN
mircea_popescu: why. why do people do this.
bitcollapse: there are no US dollar regulations mandating the IDing of a user on EVERY transaction.
mircea_popescu: yes, there are. da fuck do you think aml kyc fym stand for ?
davout: bitcollapse: ok, bitinstant are idiots, point made you can leave now :-)
mircea_popescu: well admittedly fym stands for fuck your mother, but the rest.
bitcollapse: those are for financial transactions
bitcollapse: highly DEFINED ones.
mircea_popescu: eys. ie, transactions that involve DOLLARS
bitcollapse: bullshit. you can spend 5k in a walmart and nobody will say anything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.0449 = 1.347 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: the people applying 'rules' are applying their whims, and to your arse, rather than to bitcoin (or whatever else the instrument of your perceived mischief may be.)
davout: bitcollapse: look up stored value, and come back when you have a clue
bitcollapse: KYC applies to financial institutions
pigeons: because you are on camera and bought with your credit card
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0444 = 0.444 BTC [-]
bitcollapse: no i bought cash
bitcollapse: and the camera does not ID me.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0445 = 0.4005 BTC [+]
bitcollapse: people are applying laws to bitcoin that do not exist
mircea_popescu: well this was fun but i gotta ignore him now
asciilifeform: so you use cash. if necessary, every camera you walked/drove by on the way to the counter will cough up its footage, to the right people.
bitcollapse: bitcoin is not a legally defined currency or financial instrument
davout: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_masgzgiTTu1qhc62mo1_400.jpg
mircea_popescu: that's not 12 get out of here.
davout: haha for a split second i thought kakobrekla disabled the feature
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04548998 BTC [+]
davout: i hate boob jobs
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.044899 = 0.2694 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.044899 = 0.8082 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: why ?
davout: the last one i got wasn't that well done
mircea_popescu: you probably also hate shaved mounds. pervs.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04548998 BTC [+]
davout: dunno it looks all fake and stuff
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04548998 BTC [+]
davout: shaved is awesome
mircea_popescu: "o it looks fake"
mircea_popescu: btw davout you ever seen les tortillards ?
davout: nan
davout: c'est quoi?
mircea_popescu: there's this scene, famished theatre company (incl two hawt soubrettes) in a train
mircea_popescu: with a bunch of peasants. they keep passing back and forth terrine and jambon and whatnot
mircea_popescu: teh artistes are starving
mircea_popescu: but they don't get any.
davout: so ?
mircea_popescu: so it's sort of like bitcoin.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.585 BTC [+]
davout: proceed
mircea_popescu: jesus gotta explain everything.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0445 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0445 = 0.89 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: jesus is explaining now?
kakobrekla: lets hear it
mircea_popescu: teh presumptious elite (ie, teh artists) got nothing. teh "peasants" actually got the goods.
mircea_popescu: they're passing it back and forth but only among themselves,
mircea_popescu: while teh artistes starve.
mircea_popescu: and talk all about how "bitcoin regulations", happily ignoring the fact that... nope. exactly the reverse.
davout: there is no such thing as "bitcoin" anyway
davout: you were referring to our bitwhatever friend
davout: ?
mircea_popescu: outside of its ability to make people salivate.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00082802 = 2.0701 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.92 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : http://www.last.fm/music/Cadillac+Face/Stupid+Whore+EP
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04408002 = 0.4408 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.00102 = 0.0031 BTC [-]
davout: mircea you're like tintin
davout: so many episodes
davout: mircea makes a game company
davout: mircea creates major
davout: what's next?
davout: mircea in congo?
mircea_popescu: lol
davout: *a major
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 11 @ 0.00102 = 0.0112 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i thought tintin was belge anyway
davout: people have so many misconceptions about the law and what it says and doesn't say
davout: being a french character is for awesome people only
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1538 @ 0.00101 = 1.5534 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: like... hm... bourvil ?
davout: lol
jcpham: bitcoin makes me angry today
mircea_popescu: possibly the least awesome person i could think up
davout: jcpham: accusing inanimate objects : weak!
mircea_popescu: ya jcpham it's really the voices, we know.
davout: bourvil is pretty high on the ladder of non-awesomeness
jcpham: i have a fever and can't word it properly
mircea_popescu: what's the only prescription ?
jcpham: bitcoin got dumber over the weekend i'm sure of it
pigeons: asterix & obelix
jcpham: ....can't put my finger on it
davout: jcpham: you go too much on the forums :-)
mircea_popescu: the only prescription is more cuntgel.
jcpham: i haven't been there in ages!
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.173001 BTC [-]
jcpham: it's reddit now!
mircea_popescu: lol reddit.
jcpham: and it's worse
davout: the idiots of the forums are percolating
mircea_popescu: dude reddit is always infinitely retarded
mircea_popescu: of course it gets worse over any tiem interval.
pigeons: http://qz.com/99413/first-ever-human-head-transplant-is-now-possible-says-neuroscientist/
davout: it can be fun sometimes
ozbot: First-ever human head transplant is now possible, says neuroscientist – Quartz
jcpham: at least the realy chats are intelligent
davout: good, the forums show us that there are plenty available bodies
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/0qjfUCpj
ozbot: assbot did me in the ass, reports ozbot - Pastebin.com
KRS: its possible..but how good could the job be...meh
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.002299 = 0.023 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 57 @ 0.044501 = 2.5366 BTC [-]
aknap3: looks like a prank
mircea_popescu: i wonder if you could have a girl's head sewn in backwards so you can kiss her while fucking her in the ass.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.044301 = 1.0189 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.173001 = 0.865 BTC [-]
davout: why am i not more shocked by what the romanian says ?
KRS: I'd prolly rather her blow me while I'm eating her ass. I'm an ass man, plus bs's are my fav.
Stardust: cuz you got used to it davout
mircea_popescu: ok, i rephrase. so you can taste her sweet tears while...
KRS: heh nice
davout: KRS: you're a .... scat man ?
davout: badum tsss
mircea_popescu: scaaaat man.
KRS: nooo not scat..no piss/shit just some good starfish
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cnQCk0u49w
ozbot: Scatman John - Scatman (Ski-Ba-Bop-Ba-Dop-Bop) - YouTube
KRS: oh no now i have to listen to it too..damnit
KRS: this does kinda ride out
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.173001 = 0.692 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 10 fucking years ago we didn't even see the outrageous humour in it
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.173 = 0.519 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.172 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.376056 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.376055 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.375001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 11 @ 0.375 = 4.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.044998 = 0.99 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.375001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.375 BTC [-]
jborkl: mircea_popescu : gyft.com
jborkl: do not know if you have seen that yet
mircea_popescu: what , still ?
mircea_popescu: yea we talked about it a few days ago iirc
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.372001 BTC [-]
jborkl: oh,nm I have been busy
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.044999 = 0.9 BTC [+]
jborkl: I came back to see KRS talking about eating asshole
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.372001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.372 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.044999 = 1.305 BTC [+]
jborkl: :(
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.044998 = 0.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.044501 = 1.0235 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0445 = 0.445 BTC [-]
davout: what's the drill with it ? have heard about it but as far as I understand they simply sell gift cards
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.044302 = 1.8164 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.0443 = 0.9746 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.0442 = 0.3978 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04411 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.044001 = 0.352 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0438 = 0.1314 BTC [-]
davout: and somehow use it to trade BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 76 @ 0.0428 = 3.2528 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.042701 = 0.854 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 71 @ 0.0427 = 3.0317 BTC [-]
pigeons: well since ya'll reccomended reddit, i learned that one of the secret locations bitinstant is not allowing bitcoin purchases from is Boston
pigeons: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1hgayj/bitinstant_has_cut_off_the_ability_to_buy/
ozbot: BitInstant has cut off the ability to buy bitcoins in certian locations. I am in boston and i was ha
jborkl: it goes direct using bitpay, used a few minutes ago for a CVS card- worked instant
jborkl: already paid CVS
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 13 @ 0.00102 = 0.0133 BTC [+]
davout: Meanwhile, in France : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6uXGSTfz_4
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.0443 = 0.6202 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 4.481007 = 31.367 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 4.481 = 35.848 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: boston eh ?
mircea_popescu: sounds shady.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.481001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.042701 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0427 = 1.2383 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0426 = 0.7242 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0425 = 0.425 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0425 = 0.255 BTC [-]
davout: issues with the MSB license in whatev state Boston is in ? REGULATORY PROBLEM OFFICER??
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-june-2013-statement/
mircea_popescu: boston is in mass
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0442 = 0.442 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044898 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.00102 = 0.0102 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04545 = 0.4545 BTC [+]
davout: do you guys think there is a market for a bitcoin-space company specializing in IT security related products/consulting?
pigeons: IT security related products are a scam, so probably
mircea_popescu: davout should i find my old article about it or you search on tyour own ?
davout: mircea_popescu: fetch
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/probably-the-hottest-business-idea-of-the-moment-in-btc/
KRS: btc is only a little more useful than just a money transfer vehicle
ozbot: Probably the hottest business idea of the moment in BTC… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: o look! it's from 2012
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.044897 = 0.8979 BTC [-]
davout: mircea_popescu: yea, but that's only part of what i was thinking about
davout: mircea_popescu: the rest being an actual non-imaginary product that we're going to use to secure our very own infrastructure
mircea_popescu: so many jabs i could be throwing in here
davout: you gotta start somewhere :-)
mircea_popescu: like... "is it written in ruby ?"
davout: your obsession with ruby is like my obsession with django reinhardt, it's irrelevant and nobody cares about it
davout: next
mircea_popescu: ok, does it use secret urls ?
davout: none
mircea_popescu: is it a partnership with some french company ?
davout: haha fuck you, no it's a product, a good question
davout: would be
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so you did it already?
davout: "what does it do ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did who ?
mircea_popescu: davout i know the answer to that one
mircea_popescu: it starts with no and it ends with thing!
davout: blurb
mircea_popescu: dude srsly. automated security ? what is this, star trek ?
davout: you're mean popescu, i'm taking my toys and i'm going home
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8081 @ 0.00082774 = 6.689 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: the proper way to run btc services. fully history-free software/hardware stack.
davout: it isn't finished anyway
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no dude. i'm just entertaining a frenchman with bad food poisoning
mircea_popescu: he ate oysters a la parisienne in a scottish pub
davout: i never said it was automated
mircea_popescu: well then how's it a product ?
davout: i guess i'll just have to show it when it's finished
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.044895 = 0.5387 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: I, for one, sure as hell wouldn't put $100M of BTC on silicon I didn't design (or at least control the design of.)
mircea_popescu: but why rob us of all the fun meanwhile ?
davout: okay, it's written in ruby HAPPY NOW ??
davout: :D
mircea_popescu: aaaaahahaha
mircea_popescu: i knew it.
mircea_popescu: dude, ruby doesn't work. srsly.
mircea_popescu: it's like... for girls.
davout: was ruby mean to you in some way ?
mircea_popescu: yes it killed my pony
davout: that's what I thought
mircea_popescu: but getting back on track, so i buy your product. now what.
davout: i'll tease you a bit
davout: it can optionnally rely on GPG
mircea_popescu: so can telnet.
davout: basically it'll audit your shit, and report on it
mircea_popescu: but not automatically ?
davout: it will audit automatically if you plug it as a hidden replication slave on your DB
davout: or you can do it manually offline by feeding SQL dumps
mircea_popescu: why is it auditing your db ?
davout: because you can set custom rules for it, like check that incoming transactions actually exist on the bitcoin network
davout: that rows for previous records have not been changed
asciilifeform: isn't that what bitcoind is for?
davout: no
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.044699 = 0.9834 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: why use a second db whose functionality boils down to that of the blockchain?
mircea_popescu: so basically the security comes from using two separate machines
davout: asciilifeform: that's one of the possibilities
mircea_popescu: and it's unlikely an attacker will get tio mess with both
davout: mircea_popescu: no, the security boils down to "unless an attacker can simultaneously fuck with X auditors he can't do shit"
asciilifeform: anyone can get this functionality for free just by running the normal blockchain in several places.
mircea_popescu: where x = your server + the machine you're running davoutd on
mircea_popescu: = 2
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that was my next q, why not just run your code both places as is
asciilifeform: (and hardcode them as nodes into your ordinary bitcoind.)
davout: in my personal case it's going to be one server, a couple of online auditors, and one offline instance that gets DB backups manually fed to
asciilifeform: seems like somebody's intent on selling 'old wine in new bottles.' par for the course in the idiot 'enterprise software' industry.
davout: asciilifeform: this has absolutely nothing to do with bitcoind
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0454 = 0.681 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: davout what if there's a blockchain split ?
davout: mircea_popescu: it doesn't really help to run your code in both places since what your code does is it runs your app, it doesn't continuously check for someone fucking with your data
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: then both (all) of his bitcoind-with-serial-filed-off will be chumped
mircea_popescu: davout well how do you know my app isn't checking data
mircea_popescu: and who writes apps that don't check.
mircea_popescu: not to say your thing is necessarily useless, but i'd guess it's a part of what i linked rather than the other way around ya know ? :D
davout: mircea_popescu: blockchain split is irrelevant as your incoming transactions are either accepted, or confirmed, but in the case the confirmations count for a given tx was reduced you'd be notified since the field would be defined as "allowed to change only for a bigger integer"
mircea_popescu: no dude. i mean an unhealed, enduring split like we had in march.
mircea_popescu: where people keep feeding you one-chain transactions and then request returns which you process as both-chains transactions
davout: mircea_popescu: i'm not saying the contrary, believe it or not but i think your security model makes a shitton of sense and i'm trying to find a way to get the best of it while not sacrificing convenience too much either
mircea_popescu: and then end up with a lot of single-chain useless coins presumably.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 12 @ 0.372 = 4.464 BTC [-]
davout: mircea_popescu: it's just software, it doesn't do magic, so if the devs decide to throw the table over there's only so much it can do
davout: ok, take it one step further now
davout: imagine that each user gets an ECDSA keypair when signing up for a service
davout: (that he can have automatically generated client-side, or generate himself that's not really the question)
mircea_popescu: yea...
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.310001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
davout: i'm going to stop right here, you know where i'm going
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1984 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you're going to "imagine we use gpg to sign transactions on the client side so even if the attacker gets your server there's jack shit he can do as he can't enter arbitrary txs" ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0435 = 0.174 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.043112 = 0.9054 BTC [-]
davout: i enjoy delegating to romanians
mircea_popescu: lol
davout: yes, obviously you see the flaws too
davout: but that's just one of the solutions
mircea_popescu: well i guess we'll have to see this deployed.
davout: which kind of equates to copying mpex in a sorta degenerated fashion
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.4765 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it's there to be copied.
davout: well, find someone else :-)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.4 = 9.6 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: my next words were
davout: i was thinking of something different actually
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.599999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 861 @ 0.00101 = 0.8696 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 246 @ 0.00101 = 0.2485 BTC [-]
davout: proceed
mircea_popescu: "the problem is teh "bitcoin experts" aren't smart enough to figure it out"
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 4.472 = 76.024 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.019501 = 0.195 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: those who refuse to understand bitcoin are doomed to re-implement it.
asciilifeform: poorly.
davout: what aren't they smart enough to figure out ? your model ? or how to copy it ?
davout: my solution revolved more around email confirmation
mircea_popescu: davout for instance that you can't use websites for btc.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.002101 = 0.2101 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ha! email confirmations are so 2011 mpoe you know
mircea_popescu: shit's a hassle to handle.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 28 @ 4.472 = 125.216 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 4.46 = 35.68 BTC [-]
davout: well, the idea was to have auditors generate the confirmation codes
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 3 = 18 BTC [-]
davout: resulting in the same "webserver hacked? zero fucks given" kind of result
mircea_popescu: davout may work, as lo9ng as the auditors are trustable.
davout: one auditor will get hacked eventually
davout: it's however very very unlikely that all be hacked simultaneously
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.0047 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 16 @ 0.00433 = 0.0693 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 288 @ 0.00432 = 1.2442 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 36 @ 0.004319 = 0.1555 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 5 @ 0.004301 = 0.0215 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 11 @ 0.0043 = 0.0473 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 15 @ 0.0043 = 0.0645 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 120 @ 0.004281 = 0.5137 BTC [-]
davout: especially if one is on the raspberry pi that I hide in my dirty laundry
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 9 @ 0.2 = 1.8 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i can imagien nobody'd ever go in there.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.044 = 1.188 BTC [+]
davout: so I'm going to scratch my own itch here first and see i that works and if it's practical
mircea_popescu: yeah. prolly the right way ahead.
davout: we're dropping the hot wallet stuff for the time being and will only send funds if all auditors agree
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.45015 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.450101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 4.45 = 35.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.405 = 8.81 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.4001 = 8.8002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 4.4 = 39.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 12 @ 0.00102 = 0.0122 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: aww i thought that amc thing was supposed to be 25 or some shit
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.450151 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: it's "on sale"
mircea_popescu: a a ok
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 234 @ 0.004003 = 0.9367 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 5 @ 0.004002 = 0.02 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 15 @ 0.004 = 0.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 18 @ 0.004 = 0.072 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1000 @ 0.0039 = 3.9 BTC [-]
Namworld: Bitfunder became the new GLBSE.
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: what hapnd this time?
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 9 @ 0.00101 = 0.0091 BTC [-]
Namworld: People who do weird stuff and etc
Stardust: how weird ?
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.80279, Best ask: 88.83000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02721, Last trade: 88.83000, 24 hour volume: 47550.96313601, 24 hour low: 88.10000, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 91.71002
Namworld: Well no, if it happened on GLBSE... it's ought to happen again elsewhere.
ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats
gribble: Current Blocks: 244305 | Current Difficulty: 2.1335329113983E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 245951 | Next Difficulty In: 1646 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 36 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 23464900.6671 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.98143
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 1750 @ 0.00101 = 1.7675 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044 BTC [+]
davout: big news @gox
davout: they released their magento plugin update
davout: woohoo
Stardust: davout, do you mind clarifying what you mean by "auditors" in your security scheme ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 10 @ 0.00101 = 0.0101 BTC [-]
davout: Stardust: a system designed to monitor a defined data-set in order to : ensure data integrity, enforce arbitrary business rules on it, ensure data stability over time, issue customizable alerts, generate customizable reporting and authenticate to operators using public key cryptography
Stardust: thanks
davout: basically it looks at your data to make sure nobody is fucking with it, that the incoming bitcoin transactions actually match your available addresses, and send you GPG-signed e-mails to report on all this
davout: the rationale behind the scheme being that you may be able to compromise a web server
davout: compromise the database server behind it, maaaaybe one auditor, but you sure won't be able to hack into all of it at the same time before one of the components alerts you
Stardust: makes sense, now there's just one thing : let's suppose the webserver is completly compromised
davout: and since you can run the auditors behind tor a distributed message queue or whatever it becomes very very hard to compromise
ThickAsThieves: anyone else notice how Google Chrome never loads Google.com correctly when you first install it in a fresh Windows install?
ThickAsThieves: Bing.com loads fine of course
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4212 @ 0.00082774 = 3.4864 BTC [-]
Stardust: but you don't play with any data yet, you just look at the network traffic to identify all the auditors
ThickAsThieves: similar issues loading google.com from IE
ThickAsThieves: using the url bar as a search bar
davout: Stardust: ok, what do you do next ?
Stardust: couldn't you arbitrarily control the taffic being sent to all these auditors ?
mircea_popescu: Stardust sure.
Stardust: once you've compromised a machine, any output cannot be relied on
davout: first thing, you want to run at least one auditor offline
davout: second thing you need to look at the reporting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3870 @ 0.00082774 = 3.2034 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00082754 = 2.8964 BTC [-]
davout: so first case (and I'll take a BTC/EUR exchange for the sake of the discussion)
davout: attacker adds himself EUR
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2708 @ 0.00082467 = 2.2332 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2122 @ 0.00082459 = 1.7498 BTC [-]
davout: in the accounting
Stardust: yep
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.04547 = 0.4547 BTC [+]
davout: he gets caught immediately when you cross check your auditor's report against your bank balance
Stardust: obviously
davout: he adds himself BTC, same thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.04548696 = 0.5458 BTC [+]
davout: ok, so what can he do next ?
davout: he can fake user input
Stardust: the thing is the offline auditor is useless in a case of a quick attack, since you have to check manually
davout: Stardust: if you don't have a wot wallet there's nothing to gain from a quick attack
Stardust: i assumed there was one
davout: and even if you have a hot wallet it should sit tight behind tor getting its orders only from a consensus of auditors
davout: there should not be, precisely for the case you describe
Stardust: so how do you handle btc withdrawal in that case ?
davout: ok, imagine you have what we'll call a bitcoind node
Stardust: ok
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.04449 = 1.1123 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.044689 = 0.4916 BTC [+]
davout: it would listen to messages on a distributed queue, accessing it through Tor
davout: it only pulls data, never gets pushed to
Stardust: right
davout: it reades messages pushed by 4 different auditors
davout: *reads
davout: for which it has the GPG keys
Stardust: so that's the node that will make the btc transactions
davout: the bitcoind node
davout: yep
davout: nobody knows where it is
davout: not even the auditors
Stardust: these messages will come from the webserver, or some kind of entitiy linked to it right ?
davout: from the auditors
Stardust: *the auditors
davout: ok, i'll give the way i see it fully implemented
davout: user signs a request, with some in-browser ECDSA crypto if he's lazy, or with some manual GPG crypto if he cares
davout: webservers records "user X wants to withdraw Z BTC to the AAA address, signed by the user"
davout: auditors get knowledge of the information
davout: verify the request against the user's public key
davout: allow it, push a signed message on the queue
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.044692 = 0.9832 BTC [+]
davout: bitcoind node polls the queue, ends up with 4 messages signed by different auditors saying the same thing
davout: proceeds to send
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2585 @ 0.00082868 = 2.1421 BTC [+]
davout: the idea is the only way to win the "my server is more secure than yours game" is not to play it at all but change your strategy
Stardust: which is indeed the way to go
Stardust: i just kinda missed the "signed by user" part in my attack scheme, looks good to me now except :
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.002348 = 0.0164 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [-]
davout: if you want to have a sensible security scheme you need to do some boring manual shit too, there's no avoiding it
Stardust: the auditors would have to keep the public key of all users
davout: they can simply pull it from the webserver
davout: and check that it never changes
davout: as part of the rules to enforce
Stardust: so why pull it ?
Stardust: why just don't record it at the user registration
Stardust: i mean to enforce the data integrity maybe
davout: because the auditors are never in contact with the user
davout: they simply look at the main app server DB
Stardust: <davout> as part of the rules to enforce // nevermind, misses that
Stardust: yeah
Stardust: i mean the continously pulling mecanism isn't relevant for the withdrawal process, it is as to enforcing
davout: it is
davout: withdrawal requests first hit the app server DB
Stardust: yeah
davout: it's only after that they get replicated/copied ti the auditor
davout: which in turns signs them off
Stardust: continuously pulling the public key is what i meant...
davout: haha
davout: no
Stardust: ok, looks good
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: Get these guys to list on MPEX ☟︎
Bugpowder: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312513279830/d562329ds1.htm
davout: it will continuously pull it somehow, but just to check it does not change and that no one is ever fucking with it
davout: Stardust: you forgot one question though
Stardust: go ahead
davout: "how does a lazy user keep his private key ?"
davout: answer is "store it encrypted on the app server, ancrypt and decrypt it client side with symmetric crypto using the user's password"
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 51 @ 0.019501 = 0.9946 BTC [-]
Stardust: neat
Bugpowder: Winkelvoss Bitcoin Trust files with the SEC. Looks like a $20M share offering for Bitcoin exposure in your portfolio
davout: Bugpowder: nice!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.45 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ahaha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04425 = 0.1328 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: wait, undated ?
Stardust: "As filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on July 1, 2013"
mircea_popescu: The Trust’s Sponsor is Math-Based Asset Services LLC. The Sponsor is a Delaware limited liability company formed on May 9, 2013, and is wholly-owned by Winklevoss Capital Management LLC.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0443 = 0.3544 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: I guess they did buy some coins...
mircea_popescu: Winklevoss IP LLC is the owner of and is licensing to the Sponsor such intellectual property.
Bugpowder: I wonder if those were the huge 10k blocks going off last week
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder wait a second. this is a preliminary filing
Bugpowder: I gotta go get dinner, looking forward to discussion.
mircea_popescu: they'd buy the coins with what, their personal funds with a view to sell to this ?
Bugpowder: I have only read a few lines of it, just crossed my desk.
mircea_popescu: that's illegal afaik
ThickAsThieves: they already own coins
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.044692 = 0.2235 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: The NAV of the Trust is the aggregate value of the Trust’s assets less its liabilities (which include estimated accrued but unpaid fees and expenses). In determining the NAV of the Trust, the Trustee will value the price of the Bitcoins in the Trust Custody Account as determined by the relevant Blended Bitcoin Price. See “Overview of the Bitcoin Industry and Market” for a description of the operation of the Bitco
mircea_popescu: in exchange market (“Bitcoin Exchange Market”) from which prices are used to determine the Blended Bitcoin Price. The Trustee will determine the NAV of the Trust on each day the [EXCHANGE] is open for regular trading, (“Evaluation Day”) as promptly as practicable after 4:00 p.m.
mircea_popescu: lol ok, this is getting rejected.
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 2 @ 0.00101 = 0.002 BTC [-]
davout: what's NAV ? net average value ?
mircea_popescu: The Trustee will terminate and liquidate the Trust if one of the following events occurs: the SEC determines that the Trust is an investment company ; the CFTC determines that the Trust is a commodity pool under the Commodity Exchange Act of 1936 ; the Trust is determined to be a “money transmitter” under the regulations promulgated by FinCEN
mircea_popescu: this is typical winklevoss filing.
mircea_popescu: also known as three year old style painting.
Stardust: wonder what [EXCHANGE] will stand for, if it's gox...
mircea_popescu: a lot of shit involved, a lot of paper ruined for no purpose
ThickAsThieves: is this maybe one of those things where they intend to do it whether it passes or not
ThickAsThieves: and they'll say oh we tried
ThickAsThieves: like covering their ass
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 4.46 = 8.92 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: may be worth reading once it's complete,
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.366 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but so far it just looks like a lot of copy pasting
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.365 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: and a spurious reference to Katten Muchin Rosenman
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.04000, Best ask: 87.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.46000, Last trade: 87.50000, 24 hour volume: 51013.62354168, 24 hour low: 87.00000, 24 hour high: 98.18010, 24 hour vwap: 91.44710
mircea_popescu: fun fact : the s-1 is an 8 page document
ThickAsThieves: lowest price since May 2nd
mircea_popescu: which is supposed to take ~1k hours of effort to complete.
davout: ThickAsThieves: the price will hit 40 USD/BTC, and will then proceed to slowly climb back to 65 USD/BTC, until september 2014 where it will boom to new heights, you heard it first
davout: *here first ugh
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 34 @ 0.02998 = 1.0193 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.029989 = 0.2999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 106 @ 0.02999 = 3.1789 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 23 @ 0.002299 = 0.0529 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 4.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 245 @ 0.00101 = 0.2475 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 400 @ 0.002348 = 0.9392 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 400 @ 0.002348 = 0.9392 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.044996 = 0.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.044996 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 44 @ 0.02999 = 1.3196 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 32 @ 0.002348 = 0.0751 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.04548796 = 0.1365 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [AMC-PT] 3 @ 0.00101 = 0.003 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00082684 = 2.1498 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.04422 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.172 = 0.344 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 63 @ 0.019501 = 1.2286 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.044993 = 0.4499 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 47 @ 0.030001 = 1.41 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 99 @ 0.03 = 2.97 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.044993 = 2.2497 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 12 @ 0.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00082757 = 16.7169 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.04494 BTC [-]
furuknap: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312513279830/d562329ds1.htm
furuknap: Competition for MP? I have no idea what any of this means, btw.