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mthreat: they mix it with coke
mircea_popescu: it has to be a drink first.
mircea_popescu: !up buanz0
mircea_popescu: hey there.
buanz0: hi everyone
BingoBoingo: mthreat: Describe this fernet
mircea_popescu: so you gotta reg your id with gribble.
mircea_popescu: it'll give you a challenge and then you're part of the cool kids
buanz0: fernet is a herbal bitter that argentines love
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://i.imgur.com/kdf2hV5.jpg << 10k words.
mircea_popescu: that's the central fernet factory
mthreat: BingoBoingo: hmm. it's a italian aperitif, I believe. Not very good by itself.
buanz0: i will do that later, just popping in for a quick WASSSSSUUUP per your request, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: coolness.
mircea_popescu: so buanz0 is a jiffy/audacity dev guy
buanz0: it is awesome by itself, you just need to be non-unitedstatian
buanz0: :P
mthreat: apparently the hipsters in SF are big on fernet right now
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ack, mthreat At their best bitters of any sort are a garnish, not a drink of themself.
buanz0: you might remember that Alfred from batman forever drinks fernet :P
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ill give them ths much tho , you can order strega in most cafes and they'll have it.
mthreat: BingoBoingo: an italian told me that in italy they drink it like a medicine
mircea_popescu: haven't tried galliano and other herbal shit, but anyway
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot
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mthreat: so i guess it's the equivalent of drinking robitussin
buanz0: i drink it as a stomach med
mircea_popescu: buanz0 ^ check it out, 1st link.
mircea_popescu: i betcha you've never seen a wot this cool before :D
mircea_popescu: <mthreat> so i guess it's the equivalent of drinking robitussin << ok, i can see that.
buanz0: i have seen some pretty weird stuff, mir
mthreat: mircea_popescu: actually, a place you might like is one of the "secret" speakeasys
mircea_popescu: mthreat aite, so let's go sometime.
mthreat: deal
mircea_popescu: i was telling buanz0 about their bdsm party and he was all like... omg when's the next one.
mircea_popescu: then i told him he'll have to talk the wife into going naked, he visibly softened.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Strega's nice. mthreat buanz0 If you want to robotrip just drink the tussin. Unless you have unfortunate genetics at CYP2D6 you'll survive a bottle.
mircea_popescu: is this some pseudoephedrin cocktail ?
buanz0: LOL
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No, dextromorphan
mircea_popescu: ew
buanz0: I distill absinth myself.
buanz0: still, not my kind of poison
BingoBoingo: Usually there's only a little vomitting. I've only had the experience thrice before surrendering to it being unpleasant in spite of the right genetics.
buanz0: naked wifes only in summer
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moiety: absinth is what has created my wtf nights
mircea_popescu: buanz0 it's heated.
buanz0: good for you.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> so til argentina has no national drink // fernet!
mircea_popescu: by animal means.
benkay: it comes in big gulps at the big clubs
buanz0: the national drink is a herbal infusion known as mate
buanz0: Mate
mircea_popescu: benkay rtfl
benkay: no u
benkay: i have a bag of mate in the cupboard
mircea_popescu: what do you do with it ?
buanz0: yeah, our national drink means "to do it" in english. we frikin rule :P
benkay: buanz0: who are you??
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ever notice people walking around with a big thermos and a small silver cup with a silver "straw"?
buanz0: ask mircea
mircea_popescu: (also, funny story : i visit friend, she's not there, i decide to make tea. i make tea, i taste it, ittastes like shit. eventually i get bored and leave.
benkay: mircea_popescu: who's buanz0
buanz0: good
mircea_popescu: she calls me later "hey, did you boil some catnip at my place ?!"
buanz0: :P
moiety: epic lol
mircea_popescu: me "ow shit, that's why it tasted like shit. i thought you kept tea in the cupboard"
benkay: moiety: i read something you wrote earlier as "5-speed manul"
mircea_popescu: her "fuck i spent an hour trying to figure out how this happened"
mircea_popescu: mthreat yep
BingoBoingo: moiety: I like absinthe, but on ice. None of that sugar cube stuff. Don't want to become another Diabeetus 'Murican.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im seriously considering a dolce-de-leche only diet for conference
mircea_popescu: gotta offer guests the best!
mircea_popescu: <benkay> buanz0: who are you?? RTFL omg!
moiety: lol benkay! what have i done to you all in here?! manuls ingrained :D
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: As long as the beef accompanies it.
mircea_popescu: dolce de leche beef... hmm...
moiety: BingoBoingo: never had it on ice. i need the sugar or it's so harsh to me
mthreat: conan discovers mate, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DJACP0LytY
assbot: Conan O'Brien Drinking Yerba Mate - YouTube
moiety: that was originally because of laudenum though, the sugar cube, wasn't it?
buanz0: BingoBoingo: I like my absinth with good iced water, depending on the kind of absinth I might add a bit of sugar. the cube thing is just for show.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You know the restaurants ther would serve it...
moiety: i thought they dripped laudenum onto the cube and dropped it in the absinthe
buanz0: some do. i dont care.
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BingoBoingo: moiety: Too much sugar in the booze leads to booze sweats in the morning.
buanz0: i've done my fair bit of distilling and brewing to know how i like to drink :P
moiety: sorry
buanz0: it all comes down to the different recipes out there, check out www.absenta.cl
BingoBoingo: I might just switch to grain alcohol and distilled water. Purity of essence for the win.
buanz0: LOL
moiety: i have a 5 gallon brown demi john and a 1 gallon clear one. i want to start making my own things.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: You know the restaurants ther would serve it... << ya prolly
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you can just drink the medicinal alcohol here. i know, cause i tried it. cue "ok, that is by FAR the most ghetto thing I ever saw you do" from floored assistence
buanz0: ok everyone, off to cook. it's 9.17pm in .ar - my nick will be buanzo, mircea knows how to get in touch with me. cya.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Prolly the most valuable part of my college education was learning which 40 oz bottle of Malt liquor were palatable.
BingoBoingo: King Cobra, probably the best fermented beverage in the US.
mircea_popescu: mthreat but you know, national drink in the sense of how romanians have tzuica and scotts scotch.
BingoBoingo: http://www.40ozmaltliquor.com/archive/kingcobra.html
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mthreat: mircea_popescu: ah ok. when i google "argentina national drink" it says mate. I think the national drink is peronism
mircea_popescu: eva ?
mthreat: ya
BingoBoingo: Don't cry for me... Argentina
mircea_popescu: i wonder if given a choice to drink marylin or eva who'd people pick
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BingoBoingo: !b 5 ✂︎
BingoBoingo: Prolla Eva
mircea_popescu: personally i think i'd prefer the yankee.
mircea_popescu: she was hippy
BingoBoingo: The dark hair and ridiculous lipstick on a girl do it for me.
mircea_popescu: this should be informative tho : both of them spent their teenage years whoring.
BingoBoingo: Indeed, and both rose to astounding success in their whore specialties
mircea_popescu: seems the one thing a woman can do to make sure she won't be remarkable, or remembered, is stay in school as a teenager.
BingoBoingo: They can prolly stay in school, they just can't date.
BingoBoingo: They whore successfully on their own of whore for a master. Classes can be taken around that.
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BingoBoingo says this a someone who tried to start a blackboard vs. whiteboard flamewar.
mircea_popescu: ya what was that al; about
asciilifeform blackboard << always wondered if mathematicians ever die of 'white lung'
mircea_popescu: moiety thaty looks like a mini
BingoBoingo: Whiteboards just don't work, and having been drinking since about... 1PM mircea_popescu time... I supposed aspects of bingo University.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform chalk dust or toluene, pick your embalming technique
benkay: ;;later tell buanzo nice to meetcha
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform picks graphite
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: to my knowledge common chalk minerals are readily digested by the lungs... Electronics and chalk are another matter.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: and the all bitcoin wallets… is an outright lie. << consider the source. the guy doesn't readily know which hole his piss comes out of .
moiety: mircea_popescu: :D they were based on minis and the other little coupes of the time
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: common chalk minerals << your chalk isn't CaCO3?! do we even want to know?
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Apocalyptic: heh
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When I had access to chalkboards I used a caco3/caso4 mix, whiter lasted longer.
mircea_popescu: "snort recycled chalk. it's great for your lungs and interesting for speologists, too!"
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: http://28ri4j3anx8g2wfod51alicjuaw.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/top-8-people-having-a-bad-day-.1.jpg << ok that was a lol.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I also can't be arsed to make a Fiverr account. << yeah i kinda need fiver type of things but can'r be arsed either.
mircea_popescu: jurov you willing to open your fiverr to the chan ? or who was it that had one, mike ?
BingoBoingo: -assets problems
BingoBoingo: Maybe fluffypony
BingoBoingo: ?
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: shits weak << he has you there bb.
BingoBoingo: Yeah
BingoBoingo: Still, I think the matriculation test is a valuable idea.
BingoBoingo: By the time a person takes it they are too late to reconsider another institution so after a year of shoveling shit they either get their act together or die.
mircea_popescu: what matriculation is that ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Into the freshman class or the subfreshman class.
BingoBoingo: http://valleywag.gawker.com/delusional-ceo-says-google-punishes-successful-l-a-com-1591678622/+laceydonohue
assbot: Delusional CEO Says Google Punishes Successful L.A. Companies
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for miners ? who gives a shit, they're bricks in a year anyway << not necessarily. let's gedankenexperiment. picture scenario where the two or three remaining producers ship... sabotaged ic. (take your pick - timed self-destruct, perverted algo with collusion of 'dev' folks, etc.)
mircea_popescu: uh ok...
asciilifeform: old hardware - suddenly worth something. at least temporarily.
nubbins`: right on! so this local arts newspaper wants to do a spread on pink eye for their july issue
mircea_popescu: hey good for you
nubbins`: tyvm, pictures & everything
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda improbable.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo dredging up VAXen also seemed improbable just a few years ago.
mircea_popescu: no bit look
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Indeed it did, but nao....
mircea_popescu: the "value" of the sabotage is high. to expect an agent to do a high value thing just so YOU can capture its benefits...
mircea_popescu: obviously if they do that, they have a bullet for you, too.
mircea_popescu: rarely will someone kill the queen to die to the bishop as it were
BingoBoingo: Happens, but you need at least two bishops for checkmate.
asciilifeform: i'd even dare to guess that the much-hyped ic fab diddling does indeed take place - but through...
asciilifeform: ... diddled toolchains.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo happens in constrained spaces
mircea_popescu: not so much in open
asciilifeform: nobody's gone over tape-out mask with a magnifying glass since when, '85 ?
asciilifeform: think: variation on the ken thompson theme.
mircea_popescu: right
asciilifeform: yereaditherephurst (tm)
mircea_popescu: nobody has a clue what's in their toolchain anyway
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If you wipe out the other pieces two bishops and a king can mate a king. actually works better with less clutter on the boardd.
mircea_popescu: it could secretly hum ave maria very quietly for all anyone knew
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo by open i mean, a situation that doesn't have a fixed border at the 8th column, ora fixed nuymber of pieces and no generators etcv
asciilifeform: likewise: if the toolchain is diddled on the manufacturer's (golden master copy) end, you can own multiple (all?) ic producers.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: In that case you aren't playing chess, but instead a more interesting game.
asciilifeform: the monoculture in engineering software puts microshit to shame
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: (to both of you)
asciilifeform: afaik this has been discussed - nowhere.
mircea_popescu whistles... nowhere but here baby, for if you make it here
mircea_popescu: you make it... everywhere
asciilifeform: lol
BingoBoingo: afaik asciilifeform HN and the aggregators banned you for a reasons...
mircea_popescu: fud?
asciilifeform: spamz
asciilifeform: spud?
BingoBoingo: Seekrits... FPGAs as user interactive platforms.
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BingoBoingo: All of a sudden any user makes their own wildly incompatible bedrocks.
asciilifeform: betcha all the current btc asic houses use, e.g. 'synopsys'
BingoBoingo: Shhhh....
mircea_popescu: actually this could be a pretty decent haxxor project
asciilifeform: even more fun than the traditional compiler infector.
mircea_popescu: "hijack the fab toolchain"
asciilifeform: (yes they're still extant)
BingoBoingo: It's what Gov-hash.io would do.
mthreat: dumb mining question: is electricity the biggest cost these days? If so, has anyone set up an operation in a locale with cheap (possibly subsidized) electricity?
mircea_popescu: not the biggest cost, but a relevant factor ; yes.
BingoBoingo: mthreat: The biggest mining cost has always been the opportunity cost.
asciilifeform: picture: silicocalypse, and just chuck moore left standing.
mthreat: BingoBoingo: that's why I haven't pursued mining
asciilifeform: (he's got his own end-to-end chain)
mthreat: mircea_popescu: argentina has subsidized electricity, i believe
mircea_popescu: so does china
mthreat: mircea_popescu: partially subsidized, i mean
mthreat: ok. I figured folks were already all over that.
mircea_popescu: the one thing that may make a datacenter feasible is having someone trustworthy to oversee it
mircea_popescu: that's an unbeatable service, pretty much everyone is shady as fuck
mircea_popescu: see cex.io etc
BingoBoingo: Cex.io is going to cause much more butthurt than Gox ever could and it was promoted by the same tards.
kakobrekla: was it ?
mircea_popescu: well, it was promoted also by a set of tards that promote everything
mircea_popescu: so in thatsens
mircea_popescu: e]
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I'm talking on the low end. Last summer.
BingoBoingo: At its birth Cex has derps by the ISIS truckload.
kakobrekla: i dunno. the asset they trade only goes down.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla so clearly it's bvetter than all other investments. stop trolling :D
kakobrekla: kk
BingoBoingo: Nasty honest...
BingoBoingo: Where the consistent loses are merely club dues.
mircea_popescu: the death of critical thinking in school curricula has inter alia resulted in this mass of idiots who will think they're important and meaningful no matter what.
mircea_popescu: which in turn creates a class of guys selling them participation.
mircea_popescu: someone should make the club of "responsible people that keep the sun rising"
mircea_popescu: and you know, collect 20 bux a week in exchange for equipment these idiots "use" to make the sun keep rising
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BingoBoingo: Well, people still need to buy participation in the form of Trilema credits to keep up with the cool kids. The bottom of the class will never understand the distinct difference in value returned.
mircea_popescu: if all it took weresome tcredits to make someone smart...
BingoBoingo: It doesn't work. I tried throwing around trilema cookies when TF's coinchat was a thing.
mircea_popescu: orly ?!
BingoBoingo: Yeah, people kept buying cex inspite of the PMB article.
mircea_popescu: lolk
BingoBoingo: This goes into the distinction between mike_c and TheNewDeal trying to buy into my no bet against the same hard boundaries and only one of them speaking a language I could agree to.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Wanted to purchase exactly what the bet could underwrite. TheNewDeal wanted something better. Even if mike_c's payment would have been lower it was infinitely more attractive because the bet could underwrite itself.
mircea_popescu: ic
BingoBoingo: The Coinchat tard were largely forum tards for whom the forum could not burn their money fast enough. And without and option to remotely fry their retinas I had no stick with which to educate them.
BingoBoingo: They could not understand Cex.io was a PMB with greater risk to themselves.
mircea_popescu: lol
BingoBoingo: Also so many people fell for other idiots pitches where they were making asics in their garage. It was a nightmare.
moiety: This hasn't changed. You can explain until you are blue in the face. People do not want to listen/learn.
BingoBoingo: On the plus side though people would do anything for a bitcent.
mircea_popescu: kinmda how i feel about substance abuse
mircea_popescu: you can tlel people anything you want, they're still gonna imagine drugs are cool mkay
BingoBoingo: Yeah.
moiety nods
mircea_popescu: it's all a case of "hey dawg, we heard you like endorphins so we put more endorphins in your endorphins so you can space out while you';re spacing out"
mircea_popescu: gl getting it through.
moiety: i have given up trying
BingoBoingo: Casualty of if you can you must http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/hall-of-famer-tony-gwynn-dies-at-54-after-cancer-battle?ymd=20140616&content_id=80040976&vkey=news_mlb
assbot: Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn dies at 54 after cancer battle | MLB.com: News
BingoBoingo: Honestly I doubt anything could end civilization faster than booze without the hangover, but then... You see those opiates collapsing US civilization.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo actually romanian booze doesn't give you a hangover
mircea_popescu: just a pleasant mellow th next day
mircea_popescu: that's why we never amount to anything
BingoBoingo: That would eplain your dissatisfactions with Timisoara's direction
mircea_popescu: how so ?
BingoBoingo: If getting fucked up has no consequences no one appreciates the danger of it.
BingoBoingo: And no one does anything because they can painlessly numb away their failure.
mircea_popescu: a, their drink up around there is kinda shitty.
mircea_popescu: sorta like you know, "new hampshire moonshine"
BingoBoingo: Ouch
mircea_popescu: ok the rosenblatt article is quite lulzy
mircea_popescu: While Demand Media went public for a blistering $2 billion in 2011, its articles were largely useless, with titles ranging from "How to Boil Water" to "How to Turn on a Mac Computer." Google, in an effort to serve up quality content to its users, dropped Demand's articles down in the search results. The company's traffic plummeted and its shareholders were left researching "How to Write Off a Worthless Stock."
BingoBoingo: I think at my lowest points I made a couple tanks of gas off of them. Stopped because their editorial policies made anything useful impossible.
mircea_popescu: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070820011514AAt4rlU
assbot: Am i pregnent???? please help me....?
kakobrekla: chill the fuck down assbot, you are not.
mircea_popescu: lol win.
decimation: I watched "Elysium" on the redeye back from hawaii last night. Steve Sailor's review nails it: http://takimag.com/article/elysium_neill_blomkamp_fools_the_critics_again_steve_sailer
assbot: Elysium: Neill Blomkamp Fools the Critics Again - Taki's Magazine
mircea_popescu: what have been doing with the assbot kako ?
peterl: so I was reading the trilema about the D series
peterl: essentially it is naked shorting derps?
moiety: lmao @ "if he spirmed in you"
mircea_popescu: peterl yea
peterl: and how does that squash them?
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mircea_popescu: that's complicated.
peterl: I figured. is there a simple way to understand it?
BingoBoingo: Complicated in the same way that earned Amphoteracin the nickname Amphoterrible.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell BingoBoingo you should do some pharacology posts
gribble: The operation succeeded.
peterl: And if they never list their company publicly, you just get to keep the money?
peterl: What happens if they sell out to a big company instead of listing?
mircea_popescu: peterl perhaps. suppose some guy comes to your town and starts seelling bottled water as "magical healing elixir"
mircea_popescu: for 95 a bottle.
mircea_popescu: now suppose 7/11 down thestreet from him sees this and puts up an ad : "same thing. 75c"
peterl: so people buy from 7-11
mircea_popescu: kinda makes it difficult for the shills pretending to be buying from the guy.
mircea_popescu: because now they are actually going against sanity, much like the "havelock users" that somehow "bought" the re-ipo, briefly at 200% averages
mircea_popescu: the rent re-ipo*
peterl: but doesn't derp have infinite hitpoints?
mircea_popescu: problem with these deals is that they're not for derps.
BingoBoingo: peterl: Derp lacks infinite money.
mircea_popescu: that's the whole selling point of a series a : "buy before the masses"
mircea_popescu: if anyone can have it, for cheaper, you can't sell more.
peterl: ah, so this is a way to make money off the endless stream of derps?
mircea_popescu: if you can't sell more, and even if you have good reason to suspect you won't be able to sell more, you have no furhter reasopn to even try
mircea_popescu: not like you're in it for reals anyway.
mircea_popescu: no. this is a way to expose the usg agents trying to push bitcoin a certain way.
peterl: do you expect people to actually buy shares from you, or will it just be a way to expose the sham they are running?
mircea_popescu: i expect anyone who actually thinks one of the things is worth money to buy from me first, yes.
mircea_popescu: kinda how economics work.
kakobrekla: (in theory)
mircea_popescu: no, it's actually how economics work in practice.
peterl: but buying from you does not get capital to the people who would make it work
mircea_popescu: anyway, it exposes the hostile agents to a hard case of the "either stupid or evil" dilemma.
mircea_popescu: it does, sure.
decimation: presumably the 'founders' who believed in their company would buy shares too
BingoBoingo: decimation: If they need capital why would they buy shares?
mircea_popescu: no but there's no difference between avoiding a debt and making a gain. inasmuch as the offer is there, it's indifferent who you buy from. if you buy from me you prevent someone else from doing so, who will in turn have to buy from the "Founders"
mircea_popescu: economy is still a zero sum game, and you don't actually have political directionality.
kakobrekla: i guess we shall see about the practice part.
peterl: BingoBoingo: if they had capital, why would they be selling shares?
decimation: I think bingo means why would they buy D series from mircea
BingoBoingo: decimation: No.
BingoBoingo: peterl: You didn't quite hit the contrapositive of my position.
peterl: I don't think I meant to?
Mats_cd03: decimation: elysium's production value was incredible. props from peter jackson's failed halo movie made it into elysium, like the flying machine
BingoBoingo: peterl: Because your construction is silly. How much capital has Armandi raised for no purpose.
peterl: So you are saying they would raise capital and then use it to buy D shares?
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mircea_popescu: i suppose that could yield them a profit.
BingoBoingo: peterl: No, you are trying to add context absent from my proposition.
asciilifeform: they could also saw off their own limbs and roast them. save on food cost for their startup.
mircea_popescu: so apparently bitcoind has a serious problem with moving timezones
decimation: mats: heh yeah you are right. I think he was trying to convey several points: 1.) half measures don't work - shoot down the third world shuttles when they invade 2.) democracy turns to decadence - too weak to hold the allodial rights to a domain
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I kind of though that was part of the MP attitude towards building certain ideas. If you lack the captital to not roast your leg and can't ask for money, you eat yourself.
mircea_popescu: "Then he got to her essay. As he remembers it, she mentioned a French teacher she greatly admired. She described their one-on-one conversation at the end of a school day. And then, this detail: During their talk, when an urge to go to the bathroom could no longer be denied, she decided not to interrupt the teacher or exit the room. She simply urinated on herself."
Mats_cd03: yeah and for fucks sake audit your code so the peasants dont ruin elysium
decimation: lol re: college admissions - it's also well known that putting something like "future farmer of america" or "boy scout" or "rotc" (high school junior military "club") greatly reduces the probability of admission
decimation: mats: yeah that's the other point - if the "logic" of your computerized government system is reprogrammable, you've fucked up
mircea_popescu: boy scout ?! why ?
mircea_popescu: not gay enough anymore ?
asciilifeform: the wrong gay
BingoBoingo: decimation: My Eagle scoutness did not adversly affect my admissionness to undergrad.
asciilifeform: (as outlined in mp's essay on the subclasses)
decimation: did you go to an ivy league?
BingoBoingo: decimation: No, incentive for such was insufficient.
mircea_popescu: lol so then you don't count
BingoBoingo: Fattest person on the team hit a triple https://twitter.com/LangoschMLB/status/478714633327349760
assbot: Matt Adams now tied for the /hashtag/stlcards?src=hash team lead with three triples.
decimation: well, basically going to ivy league is religious indoctrination
decimation: so it's not suprising that they only select the non-heretics
mircea_popescu: ima brb.
BingoBoingo: decimation: I went to a Methodist college, but... Methodism isn't a real religion anyways.
decimation: Methodism has backslid into general liberal derpiness
BingoBoingo: decimation: No, it just realized its only potential value is a a social club
BingoBoingo: Derpiness comes later
decimation: if you discount Christianity's assertations about the nature, I would agree with you
decimation: "the nature" being the natural and the supernatural
BingoBoingo: decimation: You have to realize what I say about methodism is purely as an outside observer.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: engineering toolchain - I wonder if Intel's toolchain suppliers have ever experimented with "enhancements"
decimation: the motive, means, and opportunity are there
BingoBoingo: I remember when AMD fucked their compilers by cribbing Intel
decimation: some of intel's performance libraries will refuse to work on AMD hardware, unsurprisingly
BingoBoingo: Right, even though ideally the same instruction sets are implemented.
decimation: re: elyisum (from steve sailor's review): "Elysium originated in a disastrous visit to Mexico in 2005. While shooting a Nike commercial in lovely San Diego, the Boer crossed the border one evening to see Tijuana, where he was abducted by corrupt Mexican cops who shook him down for $900 in return for not killing him."
decimation: the genius thing is that he got the critics to rave that he was writing a movie about Obamacare
decimation: "Art, from the Great Pyramid on down, is actually about the most talented and/or self-confident bullying the rest of us into furnishing them with the resources to realize their visions, while the nice liberal dweebs pass on to us the artists? self-serving justifications."
moiety: i've made a start to the wiki bot commands list with assbot, i'll finish gribble tomorrow. mod6 and i working on atcbot soon. totally wiped out, night all :]
Mats_cd03: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 306237 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 194 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 0 hours, 30 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13315704078.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.26199
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33250 @ 0.00082386 = 27.3933 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: <peterl> essentially it is naked shorting derps? // <mircea_popescu> peterl yea // how does this square with your recent pronouncements against naked shorting?
benkay: Mats_cd03: you could always do spv on ios
benkay: (hue)
TheNewDeal: praise the hashgods, the bitcoin network is strong once again
benkay: prase the handjobs!
BingoBoingo: http://deadspin.com/how-tony-gwynn-cracked-baseballs-code-and-became-a-lege-1591491368
assbot: How Tony Gwynn Cracked Baseball's Code And Became A Legend
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: You have to realize there is plenty of time for... externalities
TheNewDeal: there was, the window is increasingly tightening
TheNewDeal: literally about 13 days for something drastic to happen
BingoBoingo: And what was this weekend? We could have a full blown pool war.
TheNewDeal: didn't seem to slow the hashrate
Mats_cd03: benkay: im going to push some bit-c eventually, just a matter of time
BingoBoingo: For a while ~50% of the hashrate was out of the game.
TheNewDeal: huh?
TheNewDeal: when did this occur
BingoBoingo: The Ghash.io DDoS
Mats_cd03: er bit-c code, dropped a word.
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: It wasn't a long thing, seemed like a strong warning.
Mats_cd03: ecdsa+gpg signing, gpg-agent, coin selection is what im working on
TheNewDeal: yah I was going to say, the sipa chart doesn't show much of a bump http://bitcoin.sipa.be/growth-10k.png
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Looked like a warning shot. I imagine actual violence comes later.
Mats_cd03: 95% of my time has been consumed by reading ncurses docs. drives me mad
BingoBoingo: Also there's the part where this bet has me sweating.
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Embrace it.
BingoBoingo plays FFVII, about to fuck up Wutai
Mats_cd03: benkay: i forget exactly what it was you wanted. tx ids and a json api?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.0665643 = 4.127 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0008216 = 6.2852 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: benkay:
mircea_popescu: <peterl> essentially it is naked shorting derps? // <mircea_popescu> peterl yea // how does this square with your recent pronouncements against naked shorting? << division by 0 is a problem, 0 divided by 0 is not.
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03:95% of my time has been consumed by reading ncurses docs. drives me mad <<< ahaha heard this before
mircea_popescu: ahaha get a load of this
mircea_popescu: Michele Hernandez, another prominent admissions counselor, runs one or more sessions of an Application Boot Camp every summer in which roughly 25 to 30 kids will be tucked away for four days in a hotel to work with a team of about eight editors on what she told me were as many as 10 drafts of each of three to five different essays. The camp costs $14,000 per student. That doesn’t include travel to it, the hotel bill
mircea_popescu: , breakfast or dinners, but it does include lunch and a range of guidance, both before and during the four days, on how students should fill out college applications and best showcase themselves.
mircea_popescu: Hernandez, Jager-Hyman and others in the booming admissions-counseling business
mircea_popescu: booming ? fucking scam, 15k for nothing.
mircea_popescu: “Admissions officers pay as much attention to students’ choice of essay topic as they do to the details in their essays,” Motto told me.
mircea_popescu: i'd be fucken surprised if anyone ever read one of those things
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> Mats_cd03:95% of my time has been consumed by reading ncurses docs. drives me mad <<< ahaha heard this before << at least ncurses has docs... unlike gnome
Apocalyptic: <Megalomania> when we go into space, real estate prices on earth will crash
Apocalyptic: <Megalomania> poor people will live better
Apocalyptic: what shit can people come to these days...
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo gnome prolly doesn't actually exist at all
mircea_popescu: just an insider joek
BingoBoingo: I'm starting to think that to an extent people can find use for Desktop environments over windowmangers, Xfce may be where it is at.
BingoBoingo: Actually has decent separation of things.
mircea_popescu: !up napedia
mircea_popescu: ;;rate napedia 1 I got a fan.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user napedia has been recorded.
asciilifeform: gnome!?
asciilifeform must've woken up in 2002
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 15k for nothing << surprisingly few people are aware of an interesting scam the 'ivy' unis run ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they make it virtually impossible for a kid to flunk
mircea_popescu: i bet they do
asciilifeform: (various means. sometimes direct diddling of grades, some even abolished grading for first years; many methods)
asciilifeform: while in public unis, at least in hard sciences, 40-50% flunk
mircea_popescu: once they got a sucker theyd rater not lose it
BingoBoingo: SLAC ends tend to be the same but the means are subtler than Ivys as always
mircea_popescu: a uni program that doesn't shed 50% is dubious on its face
mircea_popescu: you just can't get such a good measure of kids coupla years post puberty
asciilifeform: so now you know one of the services they provide.
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> a uni program that doesn't shed 50% is dubious on its face << pretty much
asciilifeform: guaranteed max grade
asciilifeform: but in order to provide this service, they must maintain the illusion of 'we only recruit True Genius!'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but it's max grade from the forum's investor grading thing. A+++
asciilifeform: precisely this one
mircea_popescu: yes but economy has the same age old problem : it's real. once i know that ivy league predicts non-competence im not hiring them anymore.
mircea_popescu: signals be signals, all i need is to know what they mean.
asciilifeform: the next stage of pipeline for the ivy kids (employment, either directly in .gov, or the many quasi-private arms of the ussa hydra) follows the same formula.
asciilifeform: i.e. hire the folks with the yale '4.0'
asciilifeform: it's a kind of smaller 'komsomol'
mircea_popescu: exactly how the chinese ended up ruled by manchuku, too.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu knows history, cannot be surprised
decimation: mircea: except the job of the ivies is to prepare someone to coddle USG for a living
BingoBoingo: See. I imagine a solution to this problem. Matriculation exam and a subfreshman class aspiring to not shovel shit the next year.
bitstein: ;;rate napedia 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. Wicked smart. Lots of privilege.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 8 for user napedia has been recorded.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what problem. the 'patient' is 100% microzoa by weight at this point.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine gnome is one of those abandonware projects like gnash people flock to merely for their existence
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'he' needs - not antibiotic - but proper burial.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The mercy problem. They have 1 year to study before becoming the shit they shovel.
asciilifeform: [insert obligatory mit battery film]
asciilifeform: ;;mitbattery
gribble: Error: "mitbattery" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: ;;google mit battery
gribble: Batteries | MIT News Office: <http://newsoffice.mit.edu/topic/batteries>; Liquid Metal Batteries - Group Sadoway: <http://sadoway.mit.edu/research/liquid-metal-batteries>; Saying goodbye to batteries - MIT: <http://web.mit.edu/erc/spotlights/ultracapacitor.html>
BingoBoingo: ;;google mit battery fail
gribble: A123's Technology Just Wasn't Good Enough | MIT Technology ...: <http://www.technologyreview.com/news/429647/a123s-technology-just-wasnt-good-enough/>; Technical Innovations Help Explain Why Tesla Is Succeeding and ...: <http://www.technologyreview.com/news/513151/why-tesla-survived-and-fisker-wont/>; What the Tesla Battery Fire Means for Electric Vehicles | MIT ...: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ve23i5K334
assbot: MIT genuises with lightbulb - YouTube
BingoBoingo: OMG conspiracy!!!
bitstein: ;;rate justusranvier 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. John Connor of Bitcoin.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 8 for user justusranvier has been recorded.
decimation: re gnome: I wonder why Redhat continues to favor gnome - it seems KDE is far more professional for a "desktop environment"
asciilifeform: related: http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog/decline.htm
assbot: Why I am Not a Professor
asciilifeform: ^ recommended reading. british, but generally applicable.
decimation: ascii, as long as USG is able to keep the bezzle going - joining the bezzle wot is going to be profitable. Ivies are the traditional entrance to the bezzle wot
asciilifeform: decimation: not a secret. only throwing some light on the mechanics.
decimation: right, the question is merely guessing when the machine explodes, and how to hide
bitstein: ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 Great blog, presides over great #bitcoin-assets group. Very welcoming.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
decimation: examining the details is interesting though. Here's a USG employee who was actually "fired" - and he named names: http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/40868nasa-heliophysics-director-fired
assbot: NASA Heliophysics Director Fired | SpaceNews.com
decimation: "?I believe that the problems in the Heliophysics Division are dominated by the continuing actions of Dr. Madhulika Guhathakurta,? Chenette wrote. ?By her actions she chooses not to work as a member of the Heliophysics Division team. More than any other person she has been an unusually divisive and polarizing presence in the heliophysics community.?
asciilifeform: at least they didn't plug him
asciilifeform: like this fellow
asciilifeform: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Livermore-Engineer-s-Mysterious-Death-3240466.php
assbot: Livermore Engineer's Mysterious Death / Investigators in the brutal slaying of Lee Scott Hall -- who found a flaw in a billion-dollar project -- are exasperated by the lab's lack of cooperation - SFGate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17266 @ 0.0008216 = 14.1857 BTC [-]
bitstein: ;;rate bitcoinpete 2 Great blog, brought me into the #bitcoin-assets WoT.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user bitcoinpete has been recorded.
decimation: where did Ms. Guhathakurta pop up in google? http://womensvoicesforchange.org/lives-of-the-stars-courtesy-of-whoopi-goldberg-madhlika-guhathakurta-ro-kinzler-and-a-cast-of-millions.htm
assbot: Lives of the Stars, Courtesy of Whoopi Goldberg, Madhlika Guhathakurta, Ro Kinzler and A Cast of Millions | Women's Voices For Change
decimation: In addition, NASA?s Guhathakurta pointed to a core philosophical theme, about the connections among the building blocks of the universe and their connection to human beings. ?People will have now seen it with their own eyes,? she said. ?And they will see that at a very deep level ? a molecular level, really ? we are all connected to each other.?
decimation: So, basically the guy was fired because he was put in charge of a Party member
decimation: and was confused when he thought his nominal job title meant anything to the way power is actually excercised
BingoBoingo: decimation: KDE isn't a desktop environment anymore though. It is nao a kitchen sink circle jerk. Eventually they'll make a kernel... Just you wait...
decimation: yeah KDE went downhill after around 3, when it was just a desktop environment
BingoBoingo: I like Xfce for no other reason than they basically... stopped...
BingoBoingo: Still, it is no CDE
asciilifeform: decimation: gotta understand why they threw this fellow under the bus to cover for the shaman
asciilifeform: nasa has problems
decimation: heliophysics can also have problems
asciilifeform: namely, it's quite close to the front of the line for the chopping block
asciilifeform: how to get public support? court shamans
asciilifeform: don't be surprised to see nasa-branded horoscopes
decimation: well, the current pseudoscience shamanhood appears to be the climate change wing of the party
asciilifeform: plenty of physics folks still getting bread ticket there. but they are taught - on what toes not to step.
asciilifeform: this one wasn't a quick learner.
decimation: as long as your obscure research "proves climate change", you will avoid "problems"
asciilifeform: easy target. but understand that u.s. academia is divided into pissant fiefdoms entirely like the climate chumpatron
asciilifeform: just more obscure
asciilifeform: e.g. the fusion folks
decimation: yeah moldbug talks about the same phenomenon in computer science
asciilifeform: as described, for example, here - http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/anatomy-of-a-fusion-press-release
assbot: Anatomy of a Fusion press release | Locklin on science
asciilifeform must have spammed the moldbug-on-cs link a thousand times
BingoBoingo: OMG, these chicken livers were prolly my best purchase this year.
BingoBoingo: 2lbs of them already fired for $3.50
asciilifeform: re: nasa & collapse - the very same thing happened in ussr
asciilifeform: physicists selling 'biorhythm' charts in bazaars to feed their children, etc
asciilifeform: public wants snake oil. academia - retools for snake production.
asciilifeform: all the 'democracy' catabolic collapse processes get thrown into high gear when the paycheques stop coming.
asciilifeform: thought pandering to bureaucrats sucked? try the public.
decimation: the mind reels. the amusing thing is that most of the "red state" enemies of the USG elite all think democracy is the best thing since sliced bread
asciilifeform: 'наука и жизнь' ('science & life', the russian equivalent of the - pre-90s-decay - 'scientific american') circa '91-97 was running pieces on nostradamus.
asciilifeform: just to keep the heat on
decimation: well, "popular science etc" are pretty much there today
asciilifeform: just remember kidz, we're all connected to each other and the universe through quantum-intestinal resonance.
asciilifeform: laugh now - press release later.
asciilifeform: decimation: the 'red' folks will get their nasa museaums, with noah's flood, etc
decimation: lol the scott locklin article. basically the NIF is a shrine to big engineering project meets pseudoscience
asciilifeform: decimation: visit any university lab in the u.s., anywhere. invite a postdoc for a drink, ask how much of what is done stands any chance whatsoever of 'working' - in the customary meaning of the word.
decimation: well, all of this stems from a lack of accountability and discipline. why not propose a $2bn shrine to ignorance? people in my district need jobs you know
asciilifeform: anything resembling 'accountability' would see the entire orchestra demolishes, the earth where it stood - salted.
decimation: yeah and the elites know it, even if only in the hindbrain
decimation: perhaps the fate of the US is to have a "russian 90's" and then see a putin-like figure arise. I kinda doubt it though, because of the intense allergy us folk have to anyone telling them what to do
decimation: asciilifeform: I think you wrote about how the effects of the nuke bomb were seriously hyped back in the cold war days. Here's an interesting link: http://glasstone.blogspot.com/
assbot: Declassified effects of nuclear weapons and other threats: minimizing weapons effects on civilians
decimation: it's a bit wordy, but the bottom line is that civil defense against nuclear weapons is extremely effective
decimation: if you get most of your population into extremely cheap bunkers quickly, very few will die
decimation: this is an inconvienent fact if you want to hype the bomb into a mega-weapon in order to manipulate the masses into supporting your "peace programs"
decimation: so - civil defense got the boot.
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Mats_cd03: uh and the trillions in infrastructure damage?
decimation: right, but the point is that a realistic nuclear attack isn't going to be much more damaging than conventional bombs if defenses are prepared
nubbins`: [01:04:30] <+bitstein> ;;rate napedia 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. Wicked smart. Lots of privilege.
nubbins`: ^ lel, but how many t-shirts?
decimation: "If you want peace, be ready for war. If you want to encourage aggressors, disarm."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06698006 = 0.6698 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell decimation Is our last name Teller by any chance?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/top-us-patent-judge-resigns-following-ethical-breach/
assbot: Top US patent judge resigns following ethical breach | Ars Technica
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell decimation something in the long run you'l have to grapple with here is the apparent aversion people have to eating strange.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: http://screamer.deadspin.com/there-are-no-giraffes-in-ghana-delta-1591759195/+Sean-Newell
assbot: There Are No Giraffes In Ghana, Delta
BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/report-seattle-paid-17500-to-boost-online-reputation-of-city-official/
assbot: Report: Seattle paid $17,500 to boost online reputation of city official | Ars Technica
mircea_popescu: cheap.
mircea_popescu: the us paid ~500mn to boost online reputation of white house official.
BingoBoingo: lol
mircea_popescu: !up RedStallion
BingoBoingo: Malaki paid ~1200 soldiers to keep his boys in Baghdad from deserting.
mircea_popescu: now that's cheap
BingoBoingo: Historically yeah.
BingoBoingo: http://www.bestgore.com/execution/photo-mass-execution-iraq-soldiers-isis/
assbot: Photos of Mass Executions of Iraqi Soldiers by ISIS | Best Gore
mircea_popescu: ouch
BingoBoingo: It's why I'm leaning towards predicting partition.
mircea_popescu: i think iran will invade if that's on the books.
BingoBoingo: Sure, they probably take the south. The Kurds keep the productive north. Isis keeps the bullshit parts.
mircea_popescu: yeah, right.
mircea_popescu: the notion of any sort of kurdish state would require commitment to the level of 100k boots on the ground for a few years, and then ongoing support a la israel.
mircea_popescu: and the kurds aren't the jews, either.
BingoBoingo: At the moment though Iraqi Kurds have money, they actually like the hardware the US left them, and Turkey prolly wants to trim its welfare rolls...
mircea_popescu: it's a pipe dream
mircea_popescu: i'll give you even odds on kurdish holocaust vs kurdish independence any time.
BingoBoingo: Well, UN sort of Statehood is, but they can prolly keep this feudal de fact autonomy going a few decades. Also UN sort of statehood is on its way out.
BingoBoingo: So how do we spec "i'll give you even odds on kurdish holocaust vs kurdish independence any time" for BitBet?
mircea_popescu: and since we're discussing the war in iraq, let's debunk some common myths. the us has spent close to 2 trillion on it so far, which balloons to 7 trillion if you count interest payments, as the us is flat broke (the affair will be paid for by 2055ish).
mircea_popescu: this includes ~ 100k ak guns missing, about half a trillion in disappeared funds, including billions paid to known outright washington graft
BingoBoingo: No dispute there.
mircea_popescu: the revenue from iraqi oil was 5 bn in 2013.
BingoBoingo: I though at least a full trillion disappeared into the hole and graft...
mircea_popescu: that's 0.1% of the total cost, roughly speaking.
mircea_popescu: NOT worth it. in fact, if the usg simply invested its 7trn budget into bitcointalk "investments" the us would be ahead today
BingoBoingo: Bush I really should have just blessed Bin Laded keeping occupied with Saddam.
mircea_popescu: o yeah, and of the ~50bn spent on reconstruction (1% of total, or 10x the benefits) pretty much nothing of any use was built.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that'd have required people with something other than cotton between their ears living and breathing in washington
mircea_popescu: however, with fuckwits a la kerry, rice or clinton...
BingoBoingo: It's still satisfying to say 9/11 was HW's fault
mircea_popescu: idont see how it'd be.
BingoBoingo: He could have Kept Bin Laden busy through the 90's like Reagan did through the 1980's
mircea_popescu: http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5384eff869bedd306fc96e9e-800-/ap53047226600.jpg << dude the white house has a skeletronizer somewhere.
mircea_popescu: look at that man. he went in there all plump and looking 35. a decade later he looks 60
BingoBoingo: I though that was just 6 years of knowing he sucks aged him.
mircea_popescu: maybe.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what can do that to a man, outside of smoking rocks
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You have to realize everything he does is the near opposite of what you enjoy and consider healthy
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: no wonder they can't get talent.
BingoBoingo: Also... who are his daughters dating... That has to age him too.
mircea_popescu: looks like erzsebet bathory's ballet troupe. "send your girl over, we'll suck her blood and leave an empty husk within five years".
BingoBoingo: It happened to W. less so to Clinton because Interns.
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BingoBoingo: Hard to say if it aged Reagan or if he had a lucid moment after year 2. Cater was afraid of rabbits.
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BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Un pdf https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1199460/responsive-documents.pdf
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 589.51, Best ask: 591.62, Bid-ask spread: 2.11000, Last trade: 592.1, 24 hour volume: 9550.98273248, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 610.0, 24 hour vwap: 598.225360045
BingoBoingo: %book
atcbot: 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172
BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mxDSiwqM2nw
BingoBoingo: I'd almost venture to say based on Opportunity costs that the F-35 might have been as injurous to the US as Iraq
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2125 = 0.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.2112 = 4.224 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.2113 = 3.1695 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21679 @ 0.00082105 = 17.7995 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.20814003 = 2.0814 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3721 @ 0.00082362 = 3.0647 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 57 @ 0.06699998 = 3.819 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.2014 = 2.2154 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.06700125 = 5.3601 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: it displays really weirdly here
fluffypony: it works, but the text is all fuzzy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7406 @ 0.00082319 = 6.0965 BTC [-]
fluffypony: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Fiverr takes Bitcoin now, well worth making an account - there's so much stupid shit I've used Fiverr for it's well worth it
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00082336 = 18.9373 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00082121 = 27.1821 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00082545 = 25.4239 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45623 @ 0.00082049 = 37.4332 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.0666 = 1.2654 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.0666 = 1.8648 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00081995 = 19.2688 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06646475 = 0.6646 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.06514736 = 1.2378 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.065 = 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.065 = 0.845 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06641553 = 0.6642 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00082309 = 9.4655 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06500903 = 0.6501 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.00082022 = 24.3605 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.06334622 = 1.7103 BTC [-] {3}
fluffypony: https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms14-031
assbot: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS14-031 - Important
fluffypony: rad.
davout: fluffypony: meh, we're basically back at the time where you could nuke ppl
fluffypony: davout: yeah, WinNuke 2014
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 123 @ 0.020001 = 2.4601 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10982 @ 0.0008227 = 9.0349 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: http://vimeo.com/98321051
assbot: BE200 Immersion Test on Vimeo
kakobrekla: lots of bubbling.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00081968 = 13.1968 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.063301 = 0.9495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20450 @ 0.00081883 = 16.7451 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: https://www.livebusinesschat.com/smf/index.php?topic=5629.0
assbot: Hidden message on the new sourceforge TrueCrypt site
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.063301 = 0.6963 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: http://ottawacitizen.com/technology/internet/how-did-the-rcmp-crack-blackberrys-security
assbot: How did the RCMP crack BlackBerry’s security? | Ottawa Citizen
Mats_cd03: '3DES among the best in the world'
Mats_cd03: with 80 bits of security!!!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31566 @ 0.00081793 = 25.8188 BTC [-] {4}
Mats_cd03: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 306303 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 128 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 17 hours, 27 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13307564206.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.19275
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17913 @ 0.00081789 = 14.6509 BTC [-]
moiety: hurro all
jurov: hi moiety
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00081768 = 19.2972 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.000817 = 4.4085 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44228 @ 0.0008169 = 36.1299 BTC [-] {3}
moiety: how are you jurov? i've not seen you for a wee bit (moving sucks btw)
moiety: !up Cory
moiety: !up ericmuyser
artifexd: moiety: Saw this and thought of you. http://i.imgur.com/isGXwi2.gif
moiety: artifexd: omg! thanks for linking me! thats my first manul gif... lol it's brilliant, can't stop chuckling :D
artifexd: yw
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00081904 = 17.3636 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00082108 = 16.2574 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.0008227 = 21.5547 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20201 = 0.606 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: moiety i'm well, afk more often now
jurov: and still learning to manage people and other company/accounting intricacies
jurov: and becoming more lazy than ever lol :D
Apocalyptic: jurov, how many people do you manage out of curiosity ?
chetty: http://naturalsociety.com/europe-bans-american-apples/
assbot: Europe Bans American Apples : Natural Society
jurov: it depends how you define it, maybe 2-3
jurov: they are not employers but freelancers/partners, what makes things worse
jurov: (i guess)
Apocalyptic: jurov, I see
jurov: such as, i asked a designer to improve colours of coinroll logo. he made three variants
jurov: but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay
jurov: so it ended up with this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650783.0
assbot: [POLL] Coinroll Color Scheme
jurov: and wao said, but wait, i ask my friend too
jurov: i was like arghhhhhhh
chetty: it is good tho to practice/learn management on little things
jurov: i should not have allowed such a bikeshed discussion at all
Apocalyptic: chetty, yeah, may come in handy when managing bigger projects
chetty: exactly :) important lesson
ThickAsThieves: New Coinbase marketing campaign: http://imgur.com/cG07rQU
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap.
fluffypony: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 969 @ 0.0008227 = 0.7972 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3831 @ 0.00082274 = 3.1519 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.0633 = 1.4559 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25269 @ 0.00082274 = 20.7898 BTC [+]
jurov: ThickAsThieves: context? what kind of buseness was that aimed to?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i guess.
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: '3DES among the best in the world' lawl.
mircea_popescu: but then what's that scrape when blackberry wouldn't give its keys to some foreign, i don't recall, russia was it ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78700 @ 0.00082477 = 64.9094 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9136 @ 0.00082294 = 7.5184 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: jurov: but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay << hey, my vote won!
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464.0
assbot: DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Containers
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: New Coinbase marketing campaign: http://imgur.com/cG07rQU <<< ahgaha what stupid retarded shit is that.
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap. << if it is it'll backfire, ppl get to learn first hand just how harmless btc actually is by telling these folk to stfu / ignoring them
mircea_popescu: "During years of engineering time, we have built a network of partners, resources and contacts in Asia, Europe and the USA." yet the best they could do was still havelock.
pankkake: Our first larger scale immersion cooled cluster consisted of 6048 Xilinx®Spartan-6 FPGAs in 24 tanks and was built in early 2012 with the Bitcoin still below $5.
pankkake: how many coins would that be?
mircea_popescu: "we of course can not offer any documentation to this claim, nor have we learned to gpg yet, because this is all very common of big ticker 2012 miners"
pankkake: also, why would they need to raise funds
mircea_popescu: "we also knew what chips bfl had sanded off in 2013 way back in 2011, which allowed us to beat them to the punch by two years but keep quiet about it"
mircea_popescu: "also bitcoin was under 5 in spite of us secretly doing 140% of network hash on our 6k bfl miners self-delivered early by about 17 months"
mircea_popescu: pankkake how many coins would that be? << the early (only) bfl delivered miners were commercial fpgas, so you know... a lot.
mircea_popescu: i dun recall them actually delivering 5k of the things, they had a limited supply prolly bought off some suprluss deal.
mircea_popescu: "The company will publish financial statements and certified audits frequently to make calculation of operating expenses transparent."
mircea_popescu: idjits ffs.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.0633 = 3.3549 BTC [+]
los_pantalones: this video says "99% electicity saved - Extremely efficient cooling"
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 26(Y):74(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.78602464 BTC. Current weight: 93,931.
los_pantalones: i'm no mathemagician, but that seems high
mike_c: ^ wtf? people think marshalls are going to dump the price?
mike_c: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.38, Best ask: 599.5, Bid-ask spread: 3.12000, Last trade: 596.38, 24 hour volume: 5611.63210563, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 602.3, 24 hour vwap: 592.337568602
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06439287 = 1.2879 BTC [+]
chetty: Obama announces 275 US troops WILL be sent to Iraq to protect American embassy in Baghdad days after saying they would not return = suicide mission
los_pantalones: mike_c i've noticed a lot of people arguing that everyone who buys in the auction is going to sell into the market
mircea_popescu: mike_c more or lesss stable it seems
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones you didn't see people arguing that
jurov: mike_c i don't understand the sentiment, either... rather suspect someone hopes to win the auction and is tryng to dump the price
mike_c: that would be, retarded!
los_pantalones: not here, of course
mircea_popescu: you saw this guy : http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-just-about-everyone-on-the-internet/
assbot: This is just about everyone on the Internet pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
los_pantalones: hahahahah
mircea_popescu: jurov kinda nonsensical. if he dumps the price he gets competition.
jurov: yes.. i got no explanation then.
mike_c: <+mircea_popescu> mike_c more or lesss stable it seems << yeah, that surprises me. i would think it would be sliding towards no instead of staying stable.
los_pantalones: i thought the market should have rallied on the auction news, it wasn't necessarily clear how they would sell the coins
mircea_popescu: how about you know, derps paying voluntary stupid tax (again)
pankkake: can the exchanges even handle 20000 coins? that sounds risky for a quick profit
jurov: but still.. maybe it's the same derp who bought s.dice day after divs were paid
los_pantalones: and i think the process is not bad, chunky sizes to better financed entities
mircea_popescu: pankkake you don't have to use the exchanges. you can just undercut los_pantalones here :D
los_pantalones: mircea_popescu correct
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't worry too much if i were you.
pankkake: ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --vol
gribble: 101.04901102
mircea_popescu: it's not a sale anyway. if anything, it's good news for you.
pankkake: ;;ticker --market bitstamp --vol
gribble: 5602.81348519
mircea_popescu: pankkake whoa shit, they're getting close to the 100 btc cutoff ?!
pankkake: it's daily volume
mircea_popescu: ah ah
mircea_popescu: i was about to say davout got 51 problems and a horse ain't one.
mike_c: jurov: for the record, my retarded comment was about buying the coins to sell, not your theory :) but i agree with mp that I don't think the bitstamp price will have much to do with the auction price.
mike_c: or, if i'm putting words in his mouth, then that's what i think at least.
mircea_popescu: close enough.
pankkake: will the prices be public?
los_pantalones: you have to submit a price on friday, find out if you win monday night
mircea_popescu: how was your father's day btw ?
los_pantalones: pankkake unclear, not much disclosed about what happens when you win
los_pantalones: sorry, if*
mike_c: mine? it was great. left the kid at grandma's and went out with the wife.
mircea_popescu: hahaha score.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, my pyjamas have little octopuses on them, my table is an inch of glass, i prop my knee under it while sitting. 3rd fucking thims this morning i had a peripheral vision panic of "WHOA WTF ARE THOSE"
mircea_popescu: http://www.weirdspace.dk/LooneyTunes/Graphics/HeneryHawk.gif
davout: pankkake: "it's daily volume" <<< nothing that a couple 0-fee accounts can't fix anyway
mircea_popescu: o.O
kakobrekla: o cool
kakobrekla clicks apply.
jurov: mircea_popescu wears pyjamas? O.o
mircea_popescu: what do you wear
jurov: better go without (unless you fear snakes)
pankkake: not even a pajama suit
mircea_popescu: pankkake no, it's a suit alright.
mircea_popescu: well it doesn't have a vest, but anyway. got pockets and everything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7937 @ 0.0000985 = 0.7818 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06644663 = 0.5316 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://muscleheadgym.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/i-scared-myself-today/ << i wonder how this guy's post'd look like if a cop had picked him up for gta, and then kept him under key until such a time a translator could establish the woman's not angry at having caught a thief but relieved at having been broken into her car.
assbot: I scared myself today | The Musclehead Gym
jurov: http://bitcoiner.sk/2014/06/09/bitcoin-tetovania-su-v-kurze-pozrite-sa-na-pravych-fanusikov-digitalnej-meny/#.U6BXf6bTbmE omgwtf
assbot: Bitcoin tetovania s v kurze. Pozrite sa na pravch fanikov digitlnej meny.
mircea_popescu: ?
jurov: sample: http://bitcoiner.sk/content/images/2014/Jun/12.jpg
jurov: she prolly forgot the text "insert bitcoins here"
jurov: but dunno if she got crypto capable cunt
kakobrekla: its inset buttcoins in the bck
kakobrekla: insert*
kakobrekla: back
kakobrekla: fuck cmon.
jurov: asciilifeform: what about S.NSA developing btc wallet that can be implanted into dick/cunt with NFC capability?
jurov: ofc, in the butt, too (butt one will be then configured by user to ask more)
mircea_popescu: lolk
davout: jurov: are you fucking crazy?
davout: who would use nfc for a bitcoin wallet??
pankkake: the real issue with his plan is the block size limit
chetty: hmm never actually considered getting a tattoo ....before
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: pankkake it has no cock size limit, you were lied to
pankkake: if it's one tx per entry
jurov: okay, not nfc. it makes more sense using actual electrodes, so physical contact is needed (and environment must be wet)
mircea_popescu: http://www.crocofetish.com/pictures/bdsm/bound-gangbangs/dp-in-submissive-slut-gangbang/11.jpg << doublespend
davout: i can't wait for the triple-entry accounting illustration
mircea_popescu: a'cuntin' ?
pankkake: somehow I feel the last links are NSFW
mircea_popescu: http://files.sharenator.com/They_said_I_could_be_anything_Infinite_Picdump_117-s598x462-311626-580.jpg << here you go.
mircea_popescu: pankkake since when are you employed ?!
davout: lol
pankkake: unfortunately…
mircea_popescu: french employment. where good pr0n is only a lick away
mircea_popescu: +c
mircea_popescu: or w/e
fluffypony: http://www.coindesk.com/multi-sig-bitcoin-wallet-provider-bitgo-raises-12-million/
assbot: Multi-Sig Bitcoin Wallet Provider BitGo Raises $12 Million
pankkake: my last employer was NSFW friendly though
davout: every decent employer is nsfw-friendly
davout: nsfw can also help improve security policies at the office
pankkake: i.e. I was expected to send porn to my "boss"
pankkake: how so?
davout: well, if each time you leave your desk without locking your session you find full-screen gay porn playing upon returning there you start paying attention to locking your session
jurov: davout, that depends :D
davout: lol, i guess it needs to be tailored to the target
pankkake: I am much more paranoid, gay porn is far from something I'd fear
pankkake: I always lock it + 5 min idle lock
asciilifeform: forgot to lock my console once at uni, in dorm. chums walked in, changed display background to a shot of winblows 'me'
davout: asciilifeform: it's much funnier to change the background to a full screen shot, and then hide the icons
pankkake: Windows Meuh
asciilifeform: davout: that's what it was
asciilifeform: jurov: fingerprint locks -> lose yer finger; cock wallet -> lose...
jurov: if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes
davout: jurov: that would work amazingly well if coupled to a buttwallet
asciilifeform: rectumprint.
asciilifeform: sit on a stake scanner.
asciilifeform: no thx
pankkake: well, http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/28/tongue-piercing-disabled-paralysed-magentic-stud-wheelchairs-smartphone
assbot: Tongue piercing helps paralysed patients drive wheelchairs | Society | theguardian.com
chetty: so in Pennsylvania if you don{t log into a bank account for 6 months the state takes it
pankkake: even in France it's 30 years!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33650 @ 0.00082244 = 27.6751 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: <jurov> davout, that depends :D << lol
mircea_popescu: <jurov> if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything
mircea_popescu: !up jediballs
chetty: http://online.wsj.com/articles/explosion-rips-through-gas-pipeline-in-central-ukraine-1403013593
assbot: Ukraine Gas Pipeline Explosion Won't Affect Supplies to Europe - WSJ
kakobrekla: lol wtf is this
kakobrekla: http://www.coindesk.com/delta-financial-offers-interest-bearing-bitcoin-accounts/
assbot: Delta Financial Offers Interest-Bearing Bitcoin Accounts
chetty: <mircea_popescu> <jurov> if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything<< well your slaves can do it
mircea_popescu: kinda meh
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla people desperate for bitcoin capital
mircea_popescu: it will only get worse.
kakobrekla: ah i get it, the bitfinex model
kakobrekla: i thought pirate was out of jail at first
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: on the short term, 2015-2016, it'll be AMAZING what sort of interest people will be able to earn if they don't actually want their bitcoin capital back
mircea_popescu: increasingly more respectable firms will be offering btc denominated savings accounts with a fiat clause as the cheapest most accessible way to get in the game
mircea_popescu: (stuff like "deposit your bitcoin with for 50% per annum!!1" small print "repayable in either bitcoin or fiat at our option")
mircea_popescu: all the "everyone made ROI hand over fist with a 60% btc loss" crowd will be well served.
jurov: ftfy: "repayable at our option"
mircea_popescu: jurov that'll slowly go away.
mircea_popescu: it's cheaper to pay a few % and pretend like you've paid than to not pay at all.
mircea_popescu: the only reason this isn't the rule now is the relative small size of the deals, which makes cluelessness seaworthy
jurov: afaik it was the case with fiat before central banking
mircea_popescu: but even on a market of garr and nasty fucktards, it's slowly emerging
mircea_popescu: something like that yes.
mircea_popescu: early bank paper (banknotes) stoood to gold in a very similar relation. "deposit your gold, we'll pay 5976597985%. in gold. or maybe paper"
mircea_popescu: "it's just as good"
fluffypony: lol - 4chan campaign ends up IRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exc6e3TUBWk
assbot: #EndFathersDay - a Twitter Campaign to End Patriarchy & Oppression - #SingleMothersDay - YouTube
pankkake: paying dividends seems the way to keep investors happy
pankkake: until, of course, well
pankkake: "they pay dividends" is the usual retort to any criticism
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's been through the years the most popular scam. "deposit lump sum, we'll pay you a few %s of it a few times. annuity ftw!"
mircea_popescu: but re the paper conundrum, take this ancient quote : trilema.com/digging-through-archives-yields-gold
chetty: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/feds-put-signs-telling-cats-stay-away/#axzz34uDAcwHz
assbot: Feds put up signs telling cats to stay away (Psst! Cat's can't read.) | The Libertarian Republic
mircea_popescu: Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil financial network is bigger than the honest financial network, with the result that even though everyone knows what is happening, people continue to use the paper issued by the evil financial network, because of network effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use if you want to do business.
mircea_popescu: Then knowledgeable people complain that the evil financial network is heading for disaster, that the government sponsored enterprises are about to cause a “collapse of the total financial system”, as Wallison and Alan Greenspan complained in 2005, the government debates shrinking the evil government sponsored enterprises, as with “S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005″ but they
mircea_popescu: seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful, the recent S. 190 debate on limiting portfolios (bond issue supporting dud mortgages) by government sponsored enterprises being a perfect reprise of the debates on limiting the issue of new assignats in the 1790s.
mircea_popescu: The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigger,
mircea_popescu: ore disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks ar
mircea_popescu: guy knew EXACTLY what was going to be going on, back in... 2009.
mircea_popescu: this is also why stomping out us influence in bitcoin is quite so critical for its survival at this juncture.
mircea_popescu: they seem to not wish to submit, so they will have to be killed, pretty much.
jurov: !up chax
jurov: !up chax
mircea_popescu: lol the voiceless!
fluffypony: http://www.coindesk.com/search-ideal-bitcoin-jurisdiction/
assbot: In Search of the Ideal Bitcoin Jurisdiction
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.94523860 BTC to 9`095 shares, 21388 satoshi per share
los_pantalones: i always thought UAE would be the best jurisdiction for btc
los_pantalones: they already trade with everyone in the world
los_pantalones: and get stuck with USD
los_pantalones: but "jurisdiction" seems like a pointless word
los_pantalones: for something that operates outside borders
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00082518 = 5.1161 BTC [+]
jurov: los_pantalones what's better word for poor schmucks like me that need to get the fiat out somehow?
los_pantalones: out of the country ?
los_pantalones: where you reside ?
jurov: slovankia/eu. but the VAT needs not be such a big problem as the paint it
jurov: *they
jurov: it isn't so much yet it would require offshore solution
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00081947 = 12.5379 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00081861 = 10.1098 BTC [-] {2}
chetty: I dont see tax so much the issue as the bank squeeze
los_pantalones: chetty agreed
penguirker: New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/17/why-its-over-for-litecoin/
davout: did anyone buy the emblematic iranian shoes?
mircea_popescu: nope
mircea_popescu: which were those ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete you know, your litecoin article'd benefit from a lot more reductio ad absurdum and other directly-obvious proofs to displace most of the appeals to authority.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: if you say "<<At around US$30/LTC, it’s more affordable to outright purchase too. >> This author, like many a CoinDesker, is of the mistaken belief that buying a whole shitty thing just because you can afford it is better than buying a part of something far superior. Today, you can buy a million satoshis for $6 or you can buy most of the Dogecoin for sale on the market. Incredibly, some people will actually go for the la
mircea_popescu: ense. “Affordability” isn’t what you think it is."
mircea_popescu: you're not helping your reader all that much.
mircea_popescu: if you say "By this logic, it is better to buy half of a pair of boots than a whole car" you are.
mircea_popescu: Right off the bat, we see that Litecoin is pitched at the “average user.” This, of course, is a huge red flag that Litecoin is doomed to failure. Anything aimed at the lowest common denominator must necessarily be shit. <<< like what, like air ?
mircea_popescu: take pussy for instance. pussy is constructed with the average user in mind. it's not shit, that's a different hole.
mircea_popescu: too strong statements put you in the unenviable position that a ready counterexample can be constructed that speaks to what you say, and then your entire argument looks weak, where it needn't.
davout: mircea_popescu: http://persianshoes.com/product/m126/
assbot: M126 | Persian Shoes
davout: their shoes look rad
davout: also they were featured i some tv bitcoin documentary, what decided me to get some was how the iranian shoe maker made fun of the western journalists shoes
davout: handmade shoes for 150 bucks, plus i get to transact with iran
mircea_popescu: i dont see what's so special about them but anyway
davout: i desire them, that's what's special
mircea_popescu: aite then. dealing with iran isn't such a bad thing anyway
mircea_popescu: i recall back in 2012 when i was beating the bushes for sane iranian peoples lol
jurov: terrorist shoes!!1
jurov: !up adrrr
jurov: http://i.imgur.com/IZkEbgI.jpg
jurov: sfw
mircea_popescu: !up edlund10
edlund10: thanks
edlund10: http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/
assbot: BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 7 hours | weight: 78`609 (100`000 to 1)
edlund10: this bet should be already resolved as yes :)
mircea_popescu: leave a comment there then
edlund10: i left it, but wasn't sure if it's enough
mircea_popescu: !up Dimsler
Dimsler: https://i.imgur.com/cG07rQU.jpg
Dimsler: lol
Dimsler: btc
Dimsler: i can't wait until the first kidnapping for btc occurs
mircea_popescu: i can't wait until people start reading the logs before they think they're being all newsworthy and shit
mircea_popescu: !down Dimsler
jurov: Dimsler,last i heard BingoBoingo arranges one with FARC
adrrr: bitbet odds are so ugly
mircea_popescu: how so
kakobrekla: adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind
fluffypony: ;;later tell moiety I think I found the first cat that can take on a manul: http://i.imgur.com/PZNxrN4.jpg
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: kakobrekla: I thought it was the same design committee that did the UI design for apex?
fluffypony: s/apex/mpex
adrrr: kakobrekla: I didn't talk about the design, but the number
kakobrekla: fluffypony there is some intersection for sure.
kakobrekla: adrrr you want the number bigger or smaller?
kakobrekla: i can fix it in the css.
jurov: .odds: {font-family: comic-sans;}
adrrr: no not css or anything. By the way nice website ! I just think the odds are to bad to play. It's just what I think :D
kakobrekla: well
kakobrekla: is bigger one bigger than smaller one or no
jurov: adrr for example this for example had very good odds: http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/
assbot: BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 6 hours | weight: 78`570 (100`000 to 1)
jurov: so what is the problem?
kakobrekla: i guess it depends if its == or ===.
pankkake: just do == || === to be sure
pankkake: unless you want == && ===
benkay: <kakobrekla> adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind // ah i always knew it mircea_popescu is a DAC
kakobrekla: i usually use the shorthand ==(=)
mircea_popescu: lol
jurov: kakobrekla usually uses 100-second minutes
kakobrekla: did you know a day is two nights long
benkay: or .1...but it doesn't matter, you know?
adrrr: anyway this is a good website
benkay: make sure your odds are ======== reality before betting
adrrr: yeah that's it
pankkake: adrrr: yes. I use it more for fun than profit. or at least that's what I tell myself :D
benkay: and your fees are ======= 0
pankkake: 0 rounded up
benkay: yeah hey i mean they're really small numbers
adrrr: sport bet website in bitcoins have bigger number than sport bet normal website. I think this is a good thing for bitcoin cause a lot of gamblers will realize that
benkay: bigger numbers are definitely best numbers
pankkake: no, not bigger. just more numbers
pankkake: adrrr: you might like http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/bitbet-affiliate-ad/
assbot: BitBet Affiliate Ad - Btc Alpha
adrrr: lol I don't understand you, can we say better odds?
kakobrekla: would a smaller or bigger font be better ?
pankkake: !up adrrr
adrrr: that's not a problem of font
adrrr: you're kidding me
kakobrekla: but it would make the number smaller or bigger. :(
jurov: adrrr please say cmplete informatin or example - where do you get better odds?
jurov: if you don't qualify you easily become butt of jokes
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.25 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.13602464 BTC. Current weight: 93,558.
adrrr: For example on this bet : 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No
adrrr: When I see that I just don't wanna bet
davout: adrrr: that's because it's pari mutuel
adrrr: I'm gonna try to find an example with goods odds
davout: the way people bet is the way odds are defined
adrrr: oh so I'm a noob lol I didn't saw that
adrrr: It's a good idea !
adrrr: lol
mircea_popescu: lolk
kakobrekla: so we are not changing the css?
adrrr: ahaha
adrrr: everything is fine kakobrekla
kakobrekla: kk!
mircea_popescu: better change it just to be sure (tm)
adrrr: I'll tell you what to do next ;)
fluffypony: kakobrekla: needs more jQuery
fluffypony: and webfonts
adrrr: and responsive design !
fluffypony: yes
fluffypony: and PDF reports
pankkake: responsive is actually a good thing
pankkake: I like to have a narrow browser window and some websites really suck at it
pankkake: I hope you do your math with jquery http://r3dux.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/NotEnoughjQuery.jpg
benkay: you mean the dollar?
benkay: i do all of my ui with the htmldollar
adrrr: the picture is a joke
fluffypony: adrrr: it's serious business
adrrr: no it was just to explain to benkay that this is a joke
adrrr: (the picture)
Mats_cd03: whoevers behind Unicode 7.0 is challenged
Mats_cd03: new emoji, read like " cloud with tornado. snow capped mountain. white sun behind cloud."
Mats_cd03: http://emojipedia.org/new-emoji/
jurov: Mats_cd03 we aren't there yet. apparently there's still "diversity gap": http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2459629,00.asp
assbot: Vulcan Salute, Middle Finger Among 250 New Emojis | News & Opinion | PCMag.com
jurov: "the lineup still doesn't include any African-American characters"
Mats_cd03: lol what
fluffypony: ;;ud figjam
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=figjam | Also a song, "FIGJAM (Fuck I'm Good Just Ask Me)" by Butterfingers, an Australian band. Bob: "Ahhh, finished tiling that roof at last..." Alan: "Yeah, FIGJAM!".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00082518 = 18.8141 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: !up adrrr
kakobrekla: ah he gone.
kakobrekla: i was just about to say something.
kakobrekla: o wait
kakobrekla: !up adrrr
kakobrekla: get yourself in the wont if you want to talk
kakobrekla: or wot
adrrr: yep i'm in
adrrr: i was just not logged in
kakobrekla: ;;gettrust assbot adrrr
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35752 @ 0.0008247 = 29.4847 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask adrrr!~adrrr@APuteaux-652-1-213-139.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr. Trust relationship from user assbot to user adrrr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=adrrr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=adrrr | Rated since: Thu May 22 05:23:03 2014
kakobrekla: a ok
FabianB: $vwap s.mpoe
empyex: FabianB: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00082071 high: 0.0008265 low: 0.00081569 volume: 1300456 btc: 1067.29102587 7 day: average: 0.00082605 high: 0.00086895 low: 0.00081496 volume: 6563631 btc: 5421.87815351 30 day: average: 0.00087011 high: 0.00094991 low: 0.00079351 volume: 26687590 btc: 23221.15595391
FabianB: $vwap s.bbet
empyex: FabianB: S.BBET 1 day: average: 0.0005 high: 0.0005 low: 0.0005 volume: 1719 btc: 0.8595 7 day: average: 0.0005 high: 0.0005 low: 0.0005 volume: 1719 btc: 0.8595 30 day: average: 0.00048526 high: 0.000525 low: 0.00047 volume: 8347 btc: 4.050485
kakobrekla: 4 btc, almost record volume
jurov: $vwap f.mpif
empyex: jurov: F.MPIF 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.00021705 high: 0.00021726 low: 0.00021536 volume: 95749 btc: 20.78211468
jurov: :(
jurov: okay, if 30day volume will be NaN then it propagates into NAV calculation and all hell will break loose
jurov: *30day price, i mean
FabianB: curious about the next bbet statement
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53950 @ 0.00081952 = 44.2131 BTC [-] {2}
FabianB: all worldcup bets should be resolved this period
mike_c: vwap30 if vwap30 else last_sale
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0699 = 0.699 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.02 = 0.7 BTC [+] {2}
FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.BBET S.MPOE X.EUR
adrrr: mpex.co need a good redesign ^^
kakobrekla: iirc black version existed?
FabianB: still does
FabianB: http://mpex.co/?r=1
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
pankkake: uglier than I remember
kakobrekla: dunno why but the thing reminds me of http://gli.tc/h/2112/
assbot: GLI.TC/H 2112: DEC 6-9:CHICAGO ++
pankkake: well the white version looks much worse without my base firefox styles: https://i.imgur.com/uCtNgFa.png (except for graph integration)
kakobrekla: lots of fun css files in the dropdown
mike_c: ouch. black version needs to grey the background of the input box. much contrast.
kakobrekla: something like dat should be made for mpex
kakobrekla: for anyone that complains.
kakobrekla: example http://gli.tc/h/2112/index.php?css=8linkli_mrgnhgbyflwrs.css
assbot: GLI.TC/H 2112: DEC 6-9:CHICAGO ++
jurov: http://live.coinbr.com/images/mpex-sans-fs8.png totally rocks
fluffypony: yeah agreed jurov
fluffypony: that should be the default
FabianB: [√] empyex commands documented ( http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots )
assbot: irc_bots [bitcoin assets wiki]
jurov: body { background: pink; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; }
pankkake: $proxies
empyex: pankkake: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
pankkake: $mpexlag
empyex: pankkake: 145 milliseconds
pankkake: $unconfirmed
empyex: pankkake: 1794
pankkake: $avg
empyex: pankkake: 597.67
FabianB: jurov: mpex.coinbr.com down?
jurov: looks so
jurov: lol spot instances for $10/hr? someone gonna cry
pankkake: ;;buy 1 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/
assbot: ThinkGeek :: Firefly Inevitable Betrayal Dinosaurs with Sound
gribble: Error: 'dinos' is not a valid price input.
FabianB: jurov: for coinbr?
pankkake: ;;view 20769
gribble: #20769 Tue Jun 17 14:55:19 2014 pankkake BUY 1.0 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD (Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/)
jurov: no,for the proxy... that's why it is down
FabianB: jurov: should i remove it from the list of proxies for now?
jurov: no, i'll relauch it elsewhere in a moment
FabianB: k
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/06/17/turkish_media_ban_media_in_turkey_stopped_from_covering_isis_abductions.html
assbot: Turkish media ban: Media in Turkey stopped from covering ISIS abductions.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00082518 = 13.9455 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: $book
thestringpuller: oops
thestringpuller: $depth MPOE
empyex: thestringpuller: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SFsBrGeQ
thestringpuller: grr
thestringpuller: $ticker MPOE
thestringpuller: $help
empyex: thestringpuller: Commands: '$avg' '$conference' '$depth' '$depth <mpsic>' '$email' '$help' '$moo' '$mpexlag' '$post <pastebin-url-with-signcrypted-mpex-command>' '$proxies' '$traded' '$unconfirmed' '$vwap' '$vwap <mpsic>'
thestringpuller: $moo
empyex: thestringpuller: It's starting to sound like Wal-Mart in here.
mod6: did that one just replace pympex?
mod6: err mpexbot?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00082554 = 21.464 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: mod6 no, just supplements it
FabianB: mod6: mpexbot yes
mod6: ahh.
FabianB: thestringpuller: the mpsic is S.MPOE
FabianB: $depth s.mpoe
empyex: FabianB: [S.MPOE] Bids: 12750 @ 0.00082518 23135 @ 0.00082292 12291 @ 0.00082269 27100 @ 0.00081885
empyex: FabianB: [S.MPOE] Asks: 3185 @ 0.00082558 14052 @ 0.00082650 40100 @ 0.00082715 31438 @ 0.00082725
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00082356 = 34.9189 BTC [-] {3}
FabianB: hmm.. thinking if i should let empyex tell thestringpuller to get the mpsics right instead of letting it default to raw depth
pankkake: it should kick you everytime you make an error
FabianB: lol
FabianB: i guess that would be more assbot's style
jurov: it should do bait
[]bot: Bet created: "Petamine at over .08 per share before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/946/
[]bot: Bet created: "World Cup 2014: At least one red card issued during the final" http://bitbet.us/bet/947/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29977 @ 0.0008245 = 24.716 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.3, Best ask: 597.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 595.85, 24 hour volume: 4787.75305818, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 602.0, 24 hour vwap: 592.934258693
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14052 @ 0.0008265 = 11.614 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: %book
atcbot: 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172
[]bot: Bet created: "World Cup 2014: Brazil to win" http://bitbet.us/bet/948/
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell mircea_popescu thanks for the tips! i made a few amendments at those points.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: http://valleywag.gawker.com/gym-bags-full-of-cash-is-a-great-metaphor-for-celebrity-1591996703/+laceydonohue
assbot: Gym Bags Full of Cash Is a Great Metaphor for Celebrity Tech Investing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.20000004 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4078 @ 0.00082654 = 3.3706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.000827 = 4.8793 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2493 @ 0.00082654 = 2.0606 BTC [-]
benkay: !up gabriel_laddel
kakobrekla: gl benkay
kakobrekla: !up gabriel_laddel
kakobrekla: ha
kakobrekla: how many asseters does it take to up gabriel_laddel
benkay: what is even state
gabriel_laddel: monads
kakobrekla gets off the fail train
jurov: http://animals.io9.com/why-are-these-bears-having-oral-sex-1590980883
assbot: Why Are These Bears Having Oral Sex?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30050 @ 0.0008254 = 24.8033 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: o hey nice find
mircea_popescu: so only mammals that like fruits are cocksuckers ?
BingoBoingo: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 13 minutes and 47 seconds
mircea_popescu: lol all the mpex css modders!
mircea_popescu: jurov: it should do bait << it should do mp approved bait.
mircea_popescu: want a list of tumblrs ?
jurov: FabianB: ^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.201 = 0.603 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so i took fluffypony's advice and hired a coupla dozen fiverr kids. since pretty much the only thing they seem to be able to do that's useful is put up/distribute flyers on their campus, im having a coupla dozen do that
mircea_popescu: curious what exactly comes out of this
BingoBoingo: Nice, what campuses are these?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, mostly us
BingoBoingo: Ah, just wondering if I might stumble into any this week
BingoBoingo: %ticker
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 235 Last Price: 150 24h-Vol: 3k High: 180 Low: 150 VWAP: 153
Naphex: "Andreas Antonopolous delivers a stunning presentation of crypto currency to a virtual room full of knowledge seeking students."
Naphex: who writes these titles o.o
BingoBoingo: %book
atcbot: 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 49k@143 175k@142 34k@140
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 605.98, Best ask: 607.49, Bid-ask spread: 1.51000, Last trade: 607.49, 24 hour volume: 6175.46701712, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.88, 24 hour vwap: 595.703307988
mircea_popescu: o look who's back
Naphex: i got back a while ago, but mostly just sitting and idling
jurov: !up dR3buttnix
mircea_popescu: makes two of us lol
Naphex: trying to lax a bit before getting multicurrency live
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i vaguely remember chicago something or the other.
BingoBoingo: I'm not headed that far north soon, but I'll keep a look out.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082545 = 3.3843 BTC [+]
penguirker: New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/bitcoin-upward-trend-a-prediction-for-legs-4-5/
penguirker: New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/litecoins-swan-song/
asciilifeform: i get up for one day into meatspace, and back - and now 'rentacoder' is back from the dead?! or what is that 'fiver' thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform rentabonger.
asciilifeform: ;;ud bonger
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bonger | Upload a picture of bonger. 2. bongers. greatest last name granted to a person. Usually resides in a man cave, playing madden. Very fun name to say. Ladies ...
TheNewDeal: bc,stats
mike_c: mircea_popescu: flyers promoting what?
mircea_popescu: mike_c i'd show you but i'm ashamed
mircea_popescu: it's a pdf
asciilifeform: shame or not, there still exists no universal replacement for pdf (unless you count postscript)
mike_c: ooh, now I'm the curious one.
mike_c: it's for your band isn't it?
mircea_popescu: mnope
mircea_popescu: ok ok here we go :
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/flyer.pdf
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't count post script, because you're dealing with random college kids.
mike_c: hm, that is interesting. seems like it will be difficult to measure the effect.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your students hablan inglés ?
TheNewDeal: los estudiantes
mircea_popescu: mike_c buy some kids a beer. what effect do you expect ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which you mean ?
asciilifeform: the locals
mircea_popescu: it's fiverr not cinqueeee
asciilifeform: (presumably meatspace flyer ?)
asciilifeform: aha
mike_c: well, effects would be: 1) do they do the work (maybe they have to send you a pic?) 2) does anyone read it
mike_c: i spend too much time trying to figure out which 50% of advertising works.
mthreat: pearl necklaces hah
mircea_popescu: mike_c in general i find us kids can be more or less trusted to go through the motions / respect the formal parts of the spec
TheNewDeal: Bitcoins foremost educational resource
TheNewDeal: love it
mircea_popescu: they don't usually do anything useful, but it's never for lack of pretending like they tried.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal i had something similar in romanian a few years ago
mircea_popescu: it drove people NUTS
TheNewDeal: hahaha
mircea_popescu: they'd have like beer parties dedicated to discussing just how fucking just not done such deeds are.
TheNewDeal: like Nikola Tesla nuts or Timothy McVeigh nuts?
mircea_popescu: like angry german kid nuts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: or w/e, reddit nuts
TheNewDeal: ewww
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 603.31, Best ask: 606.71, Bid-ask spread: 3.40000, Last trade: 604.58, 24 hour volume: 6255.76911036, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.88, 24 hour vwap: 595.9930859
BingoBoingo: !jd mpif
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.86463072 BTC; -0.23519938 BTC (-0.1375%) since last check 1d 2h 59m 48s ago.
BingoBoingo: Needs moar klye
mircea_popescu: totally.
Mats_cd03: i can't tell if you're trying to bait college feminists into marketing trilema
Mats_cd03: or just being yourself.
TheNewDeal: what if he is accomplishing both at the same time
TheNewDeal: insert Neo meme