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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429740 << YES! which is why we called tecan 1st!1111 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 23:09:57; mircea_popescu: so importantly - understand that it's in no sense a matter of 'stop being you, be somebody else'. anyone else would confront the same exact problem,, which is to say that this is not able to stand on its own. would work superbly as an add-on product of a company offering this kinbd of thing that can x-sell it.
asciilifeform is not ~complete~ idiot
pete_dushenski: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 416.65, Best ask: 417.02, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 416.7, 24 hour volume: 13751.63415602, 24 hour low: 410.68, 24 hour high: 418.24, 24 hour vwap: None
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429741 << well not quite, he ~could~ buy the whole orchestra and sell machine+nonwinblowz+customization etc. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 23:10:07; mircea_popescu: but otherwise, it's not workable, and it wouldn't be workable for trump.
asciilifeform: but usg would not sign off on it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00052301 = 6.1192 BTC [-] {4}
asciilifeform: he would have to sell it in north kr.
asciilifeform: consider iran
asciilifeform: siemens sold them stuxnet-os successfully.
asciilifeform: because...???
asciilifeform: because NO ONE GIVES HALF A FUCK
pete_dushenski: or non datur ?
asciilifeform: no one wants to LIVE badly enough ☟︎
asciilifeform: to make use of sanity.
pete_dushenski: or they want to live plenty and don't seem to be ~sufficiently~ dying on own petard for using winbloze.
asciilifeform: which is why it is important to ~help them die~.
pete_dushenski: god's work
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429323 << 'momo' calls to mind a) steering wheel company famous for racing helms, b) slang name for retard ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 21:30:24; asciilifeform: i suggest that the craft of producing mircea_popescu henceforth be referred to as momotronics.
pete_dushenski: http://www.rallynuts.com/user/products/large/MOD_07_lge.jpg << momo wheel : the ultimate in minimalism
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/21lsH7r )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> no one wants to LIVE badly enough << sadly, this is ~true.
mircea_popescu: nobody is used to the idea that fuck up and it's your ass. not anymore. because hey, "that's no way to live".
mircea_popescu: well... neither is this.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "only a cynical man would call what these people have lives...this is not how man was supposed to live."
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429640 << fwiw i even enjoy giving pitches in person ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 22:42:50; *: BingoBoingo starting to think this actually kinda sounds like a pete_dushenski problem
mircea_popescu: " 1]To whomever is now going to say "it's server fault, deedbot should output GPG signed material with proper mimetype like application/pgp-signature". I can only recommend frontal lobotomy by robot that fetches its instructions with wget." << i lolled.
mircea_popescu: in other news today, how to get married in japan : http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbyjia9Msv1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RCLqGo )
pete_dushenski: with wet floor pylons ??
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i think the "slippery when wet" thing is much needed instruction for otaku.
pete_dushenski: and bukkake
mircea_popescu: isn't that "wet when slippery" ?
pete_dushenski hasn't tried. doesn't know
pete_dushenski: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/travel/venice-italy-jewish-ghetto.html << speaking of all things tmsr
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1RCM9ax )
pete_dushenski: '500 Years of Jewish Life in Venice'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00052284 = 3.137 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: "Every Venetian I spoke to, Jew and gentile alike, had expressed deep pessimism about the city’s future." << sounds about right
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429767 << momotaro. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 00:13:54; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429323 << 'momo' calls to mind a) steering wheel company famous for racing helms, b) slang name for retard
asciilifeform: !s momotaro
assbot: 4 results for 'momotaro' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=momotaro
asciilifeform: jp folktale.
pete_dushenski: ya, just sayin'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429778 << what even is happening in the pic ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 00:48:50; mircea_popescu: in other news today, how to get married in japan : http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbyjia9Msv1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: also i notice that jp, like ar, does not manufacture ugly chix in any appreciable qty. at all.
pete_dushenski: letting out of doors and manufacturing are different beasts
asciilifeform: they might feed the ugly chix to koi ☟︎
asciilifeform: but i will point out that there are not enough koi, or even sharks, on the planet3, to feed the ugly anglo chix to.
asciilifeform: just too big of a job.
pete_dushenski: jp just figured out 'organic food' centuries ago. it's a newer concept to anglos.
asciilifeform: afaik they never invented eating shit to begin with.
asciilifeform: most folks didn't.
asciilifeform: until americans 'helped'.
asciilifeform: starvation was good enough for people-who-had-no-food.
asciilifeform: (yes cn ate swallow nests, crickets, etc. and sure. but modern mass poisoning ~requires~ industry.)
pete_dushenski: pre-americans also had insufficient chemistry
asciilifeform: holy FUCK kakobrekla i have 100% 'silentwings' fans, NEW CASE, WITH ACOUSTIC FOAM, and STILL get resonances.
asciilifeform: wtf, what gives.
asciilifeform: it it the motherfucking disks ?!!
pete_dushenski: shoulda bought silentwings case too
asciilifeform: i threw out 2, replaced with ssd for the cost of their weight in plutonium, i suppose now have to do other 2 ?!!
asciilifeform grimaces
kakobrekla: hm
asciilifeform: BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
kakobrekla: im curious, which case is it?
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asciilifeform: 3 days now
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: 'Thermaltake Suppressor F-51' ☟︎
asciilifeform: steel, with silencing foam on 4 sides.
kakobrekla: im spinning rust free - i have a few 'hp microservers' for that running in another room
asciilifeform: i have the fucker standing on fist-sized sorbothane legs, too
asciilifeform: doesn't help.
pete_dushenski: http://images.anandtech.com/doci/9364/IMG_2708_678x452.jpg << cases in question
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQlcqi )
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: ick
asciilifeform: WTF with the glass, srsly
asciilifeform: that should be an inch thick foam.
pete_dushenski: gurls love it
asciilifeform: ???
pete_dushenski: "check out my sweet machine babe. you can see INSIDE" "omg that's hot [drops pants, bends over]"
kakobrekla: for case i use 'fractal design r4' which looks surprisingly similar to your pick
pete_dushenski: this is how i imagine thinking works in reddit heads, at least
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i am not a shrink, cannot catalogue every possible delusion
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: this thing had noise dampeners and intake filters (bottom and front)
kakobrekla: yes same here
asciilifeform: the hdd fittings are, fucktardedly, plastic tho.
asciilifeform: i suppose everyone is expected to ssd now.
asciilifeform: old case had steel brackets with rubber grommets.
nubbins` has cheapest fractal design case
kakobrekla: mine are rubberized
asciilifeform: nubbins`: which ?
nubbins`: core 1000
nubbins`: ~$50
asciilifeform: http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/core-series/core-1000-usb-30 << it ?
assbot: Fractal Design ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQlHk6 )
nubbins`: yep
nubbins`: rubber hdd groms
asciilifeform: has dampeners ?
asciilifeform: i really got the 'thermaltake' on account of the bottom-mount ps
nubbins`: nah, just spied the brand & blurted
kakobrekla: http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-r4-black-pearl
assbot: Fractal Design ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQlLR1 )
asciilifeform: (hole, that is. bought ps elsewhere, fanless)
kakobrekla: pretty sure that one is mine
nubbins`: vertical mount hdd thing kinda sucks
kakobrekla: the fan that comes with it is useless though.
nubbins`: given that i don't have a turkey-sized gpu
asciilifeform: i would love to buy a case that is just 200kg of copper hedgehog. ☟︎
asciilifeform: fuck fans.
nubbins`: copper bucket full of thermal paste
asciilifeform: nubbins`: see the immersion cooling thread, physics does not cooperate
asciilifeform: (unless the machine is DESIGNED for it from day 1.)
asciilifeform: like cray was.
nubbins` used to work at gov research institute in ottawa, massive cray in lunchroom behind glass doors
asciilifeform: immersion adds parasitic capacitance to pcb traces.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: surely not the immersive cray ?
nubbins`: yeah, as soon as i said, i figured that much muck wouldn't fly
asciilifeform: (cray-2)
nubbins`: asciilifeform nah
nubbins`: would recognize from a picture, but can't recall any details
asciilifeform: prolly one of the shams they made after cray died
nubbins`: only that obtaining time on it was highly coveted
asciilifeform: with intel cpus.
nubbins`: this woulda been early 2000s
kakobrekla: anyway, easy to cut power to hdd to see if that is the bugger
asciilifeform: then - crud, yes
nubbins`: long after glory
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: can't do this when it spins, will rape the raid
nubbins`: afaik cray never really recovered from getting chip supply choked early on
kakobrekla: i dont think i get much resonances
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: it comes and goes.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: it did not recover from cray being dead.
asciilifeform: tends to be how it goes.
kakobrekla: but then again i spin fans at 200 rpm or less
pete_dushenski: ;;seen polarbeard
gribble: polarbeard was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 47 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <polarbeard> cpp is full of it
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i suspect that it is the heatsinks
asciilifeform: they are loosely-coupled and vibrate.
asciilifeform: (2 cpu board.)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: prolly he decided that we're a buncha nutters.
asciilifeform: after the 'regrind' thread.
pete_dushenski: this was news ?
nubbins`: ^
asciilifeform: news to ~him~
nubbins`: ...^
asciilifeform: that he'd have to write every patch N times.
kakobrekla: for heatsinks i use http://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d14 (ofc not with default fans)
assbot: NH-D14 ... ( http://bit.ly/1MartVs )
asciilifeform: fella couldn't take it.
pete_dushenski: this is why kids should read logs for 6 months before talking
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: this physically won't fit.
asciilifeform: (on my board)
asciilifeform: again, 2 cpu
kakobrekla: ah
kakobrekla: aha
kakobrekla: theres plenty of models
asciilifeform: no socket F tho.
nubbins`: sous-vide computing
pete_dushenski: heh
asciilifeform: it is interesting, i searched for MONTHS to find a new set of socket F hs, found NONE
asciilifeform: had to WASH my old ones.
pete_dushenski: 60c max
asciilifeform: ~decade of dirt.
asciilifeform: vacuuming and even air compressor, turns out, does not really clean the inside.
asciilifeform: it builds up.
kakobrekla: "Thermalright HR-01 X" ?
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asciilifeform: where do you see AMD F in these ?
asciilifeform: i see AM2/AM3 and intel only.
asciilifeform: or, hm, there was adapter.
asciilifeform: sold out eons ago, looks like.
asciilifeform: but that this is actually very similar shape to what i had before.
asciilifeform: looks a tiny bit more cleanable.
kakobrekla: mebbe something liek http://imagehost.losias.net/images/U2y3F.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQn0iY )
asciilifeform: substantially top-heavy though
asciilifeform: will vibrate even moar than mine !
asciilifeform: heat sink should not be top-heavy!1111
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i have the dimms b/w the sockets, so this might not fly.
kakobrekla: and the world should not be round, yet ...
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: anyway these look quite like mine, but stood on end.
kakobrekla: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-6950-AMD-Opteron-Socket-F-CPU-Heatsink-Y9115-/251322845713
assbot: Dell Poweredge 6950 AMD Opteron Socket F CPU Heatsink Y9115 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQnaa8 )
kakobrekla: ?
kakobrekla: not top heavy but all heavy
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asciilifeform: the dell hs need dell mobo holes!
asciilifeform: notice no bracket !111
kakobrekla: fuck do i know what you have
asciilifeform: tyan.
asciilifeform: forever.
kakobrekla: anyway this ends google-fu :)
asciilifeform: aha, extinct!
asciilifeform: reminds me, i gotta get a few moare of those same tyans
asciilifeform: for if this one ever melts.
asciilifeform: (if it blows a filter cap i can replace cap, dead northbridge - no)
kakobrekla: i believe i managed to acquire even more extintier things
asciilifeform: next set of hedgehogs , i expect to machine myself.
asciilifeform: from ingots.
asciilifeform: one day.
kakobrekla: however it took time and luck.
asciilifeform: new hs is not top priority atm for me.
asciilifeform: after all, old ones are clean now.
kakobrekla: i could get a custom adapter machined here if id be in such position prolly
asciilifeform: what i really want is just a 1m long heat pipe from each cpu
asciilifeform: to a 200kg copper hog.
asciilifeform: 'if wishes were horses..' (tm)
asciilifeform: pc oughta look like a mains transformer
asciilifeform: the kind on a pole.
asciilifeform: zalman co. made this for a brief spell a decade ago, it did not sell, cost $3k
asciilifeform: turns out there's ~no market for well-made quiet thing, whodavethunkit
asciilifeform: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/noiseless-computing,741.html << it.
assbot: Noiseless Computing: New Case Innovation From Zalman - Introduction ... ( http://bit.ly/1MasE7i )
kakobrekla: anyway its possible it just takes effort, like i had to buy 50 high end fans to find be-quiet
nubbins`: oddly, my current mobo has user-swappable op-amp for audio output
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i've even seen ones with tube amp !
asciilifeform: yes, on the mobo.
kakobrekla: nubbins` yet still garbage
nubbins`: lel.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: as far as im concerned if it had ONE moving part, it is rubbish.
asciilifeform: i don't care where.
nubbins`: kakobrekla i'd imagine a proper op-amp from the start would be cheaper than adding the socket
asciilifeform: nubbins`: presumably it is for folks who habitually blow the amp
nubbins`: lel it is a "gaming" mobo, so...
nubbins`: target market is obv idiots
nubbins`: gold-plated audio connectors! electrically isolated audio section on board w/ LEDs demarcating! zzzzz
kakobrekla: all integrated sound cards are rubbish. ALL of them.
nubbins`: bought because cheap
nubbins`: don't even have speakers hooked up to it
nubbins`: just the piezo
nubbins`: !
kakobrekla: yes, mine is isolated too and yet it still pops when i tested it. (yes have a dedicated card for this) ☟︎
nubbins`: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4968#ov
assbot: GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket 1150 - GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 (rev. 1.0) ... ( http://bit.ly/1MasYD9 )
kakobrekla: hooked to ~2 grand speakers - however this is not my main listening setup
nubbins`: we have an audiophile!
kakobrekla: audiofool!
nubbins` wonders if kako is vinyl collector or "other" type
kakobrekla: i have some records but not a collector
nubbins`: same, maybe buy a half dozen per year
kakobrekla: i havent bought any in years.
nubbins`: lots of newer pressings are pure shit
nubbins`: poor QC, not properly mastered for vinyl, etc
kakobrekla: i only have the old stuff
nubbins`: but it's just a cash cow now
kakobrekla: the new stuff is digitally recorded and then baked to vinyl
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> kakobrekla: as far as im concerned if it had ONE moving part, it is rubbish. << Aha, this goes to the power tool dilemma where unless paying out the ass everything is made by TTI in china and it is a competition between which TTI reseller do you trust most to preserve their battery platform. Not directly connected to this utterance of yours, but for some reason this is the one brian in the head clicked the thread t
BingoBoingo: ogether on.
pete_dushenski off to old theatre to watch monty python
nubbins`: old records are best, esp. if you have a spin-clean or similar
nubbins`: kakobrekla if you want to hear modern all-analog path, check out a record by Shellac of North America
kakobrekla: nubbins` i havent had a record player connected to my setup for years also
nubbins`: a
nubbins`: https://www.withfriendship.com/images/i/42145/Steve-Albini-picture.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQp3no )
nubbins`: ^ frontman of shellac, also engineer @ electrical audio, who famously bought an entire batch of reel2reel tape when mfg discontinued
nubbins`: "we'll have enough to last us until we're dead" ☟︎
kakobrekla: nubbins` not my pic but i use this for streaming flacs (with external clock) http://img.canuckaudiomart.com/uploads/large/1057680-logitech-modwright-transporter-rare-all-black-finish.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQpcaq )
nubbins`: wild, like a hot rod
kakobrekla: this is the source of the setup.
nubbins` has been sucked back into analog synths recently
BingoBoingo very thankful in this moment he prefers AM radio for listening to as this avoids very expensive path to financial damnation.
nubbins`: https://www.arturia.com/products/hardware-synths/microbrute << newest member of family
assbot: Arturia - Overview ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQpC0c )
kakobrekla: anyway speakers are the most important part and dipole ribbons are where the music is at
nubbins`: hmm
kakobrekla: see here http://www.soulsonicspeakers.com/gallery.html
assbot: SoulSonic Speakers ... ( http://bit.ly/1MaufKv )
adlai: BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY6PAkLG2p4
assbot: Hot Rod (8/10) Movie CLIP - The King of AM Radio (2007) HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Maugy1 )
kakobrekla: mine were custom made by this guy, a friend of mine.
nubbins`: i'm using a roland keyboard amp in the music studio and crappy infinity speakers on the record player ;/
nubbins`: shocking
nubbins`: kakobrekla there's a guy i know makes speakers too, http://www.areaudio.com
assbot: Are Audio » Are Audio ... ( http://bit.ly/1Maund5 )
nubbins`: will get a pair one day!
kakobrekla: i cant listen to non-ribbon speakers any more
kakobrekla: utter garbage even if made from diamond
kakobrekla: (cant beat physics)
nubbins`: i should read about these ribbon speakers of yrs
kakobrekla: no, you should listen to them.
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nubbins`: !
kakobrekla: anyway, classical cone tweeters are problematic because of small surface and therefore large surface volume which makes ears bleed
kakobrekla: and there is no way around it but with large surface (and low mass)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429801 << bwahahah. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:13:16; asciilifeform: they might feed the ugly chix to koi
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429822 << by now you're prolly well advised to get a performance low freq microphone and inspect the item thoroughly ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:19:03; asciilifeform: kakobrekla: 'Thermaltake Suppressor F-51'
mircea_popescu: (things are used widely in machining to find problems with mechanical movement prototypes)
nubbins`: ^ actually asciilifeform a simple piezo & some leads might provide some clues as to the source
nubbins`: could tape one to each component and still be out less than $10, even
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429862 << you know, all the "artist" metalworking chicks could prolly make you one to order. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:25:31; asciilifeform: i would love to buy a case that is just 200kg of copper hedgehog.
mircea_popescu: "first of its kind game of thrones case ; 1/4 ton copper alloy, blades"
mircea_popescu: prolly make it so you can SIT on it, also. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: kinda fun side project, this.
mircea_popescu: and yes, eminently crowdfundable.
mircea_popescu: give people pictures of you sitting on your casechair for $20 or w/e.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429987 << my ~whole room~ is (yes) isolated. inverter. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:45:30; kakobrekla: yes, mine is isolated too and yet it still pops when i tested it. (yes have a dedicated card for this)
kakobrekla: the pops come from other parts of the mobo cant isolate that
kakobrekla: stand alone card doesnt have such issues
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430012 << logical ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:51:20; nubbins`: "we'll have enough to last us until we're dead"
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: aha
kakobrekla: (this one http://www.guru3d.com/miraserver/images/2010/titanium-hd/leader.jpg )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UjJxTI )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430044 << i'ma laser interferometer at it eventually ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 02:08:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429822 << by now you're prolly well advised to get a performance low freq microphone and inspect the item thoroughly
asciilifeform: BUT i'd really much rathet be rid of all the moving partz!
mircea_popescu: i can't help but think i'm so blessed to not care about fan noise, loudspeakers, monitors et all.
kakobrekla: life is easy for blind and deaf
mircea_popescu: the last time i even used a headphone was months ago
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla totally.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430049 << mno, hs tolerances are sub-mm ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 02:11:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429862 << you know, all the "artist" metalworking chicks could prolly make you one to order.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe it's my time looking at ega gfx and appreciating golden axe music on the 8 bit case speaker
asciilifeform: hey i had same
asciilifeform: prolly longer!
mircea_popescu: how sub mm ? pretty sure they can make 0.01ish.
mircea_popescu: this is how all those fancy interlocking metal slav collars get made.
asciilifeform: to me games ~still~ mean msdos.
mircea_popescu: sukatora sassa!
mircea_popescu: now i wanna listen to it lmao
asciilifeform: ahahahaha
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSEk8kZAu0 totally, check this shit out!
assbot: Sutakora, Sassa! - Golden Axe Music Extended - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1UjJSWx )
mircea_popescu: and i thought it must be some sort of famous tune or w/e ? turns out, no ?
asciilifeform: afaik only in goldenaxe.
mircea_popescu: the things one remembers.
asciilifeform: 'Adlib' ftw
mircea_popescu: Pedalavo come se fuggissi, e in realta fuggivo, da lei, da quelle emozioni, da i sogni, da i ricordi, da tutto. E pensavo che dovevo dimenticare. Ero certo che sarei riuscito a dimenticare. Ma oggi che sono vecchio, che ho consumato banalmente la vita, talchè ho conosciuto tante donne che m'hanno detto "ricordati di me" e io le ho scordate tutte, ancora oggi lei, l'unica che non ho mai dimenticato... Sutakora Sassa! ☟︎
asciilifeform: goldenaxe2 ruled.
kakobrekla: yes, i made friends because of it.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430052<< cray sofa!! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 02:12:31; mircea_popescu: prolly make it so you can SIT on it, also.
asciilifeform: was a thing, he put the monster power supply there
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: around the 'horseshoe'
kakobrekla: btw re liquid cooled para capacitance, modern computer gear seem to work in oil immersion setups without any special design
asciilifeform: cray was a titan.
mircea_popescu: sorta like the heated water bed. all you wanna do is fuck all the blustery winter day.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: electrolytic caps swell.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i remember me saying that and alf being all alf all over it!
asciilifeform: they do tho
kakobrekla: i recall one such setup being operable for years
mircea_popescu: hard to argue with practice yo!
asciilifeform: where?
asciilifeform: and in which liquid
mircea_popescu: crazy gamers everywhere.
asciilifeform genuinely curious
mircea_popescu: i never gave that much of a shit, myself
asciilifeform: and 'operable' for gamer means typically slightly diff thing than for me
asciilifeform: (years of 24/7 with no bitrot)
kakobrekla: i recall it was office pc that worked years after installed and no i dont have the link written down anywhere
asciilifeform: what did he do with the disks?
kakobrekla: dont recall
asciilifeform: and how about the ports
asciilifeform: cables glued in?
kakobrekla: why would you glue them
asciilifeform: because sealed oil tank??
kakobrekla: ah i thought glued in sockets
asciilifeform: or, what, ick, open to air, spillable idiocy?
kakobrekla: dont change the argument this has nothing to do with capacitance !
asciilifeform: i wonder if he filled with siloxane
kakobrekla: anyway i see you want all the upside with no downside
asciilifeform: hell yes.
asciilifeform: thats what i ~do~.
kakobrekla: hence very little solutions.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: but when solved - solved.
asciilifeform: it's a thing...
kakobrekla: more if than when.
asciilifeform: unfortunately.
asciilifeform: ars longa .. (tm)
asciilifeform: for half-solutions, call up yer local halfsolutionmart! it will provide!
kakobrekla: sometimes 95% solution will be better than no solution at all
asciilifeform: call 95%mart!111 it liveth to serve!
kakobrekla: yes i found be-quiet there
kakobrekla curious if asciilifeform ever makes a compromise for the sake of his pet ☟︎
nubbins`: now to have a witbier in bed. nite
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0005248 = 6.6125 BTC [+]
punkman: /me found a dusty, 20 year old bottle of Canadian Club yesterday
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kakobrekla: does it still work?
punkman: I will find out now
punkman: hmm not bad. I should find a newer bottle to compare it with.
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4I9iBZNUu4
assbot: Soul MaKossa - Manu Dibango - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIAwkR )
kakobrekla actually has that album in his collection
punkman: on vinyl?
kakobrekla: neg
kakobrekla: a flac.
punkman: I have a small stash of 60-70s vinyl, but turntable has been out of order for a decade+
punkman: 128kbps is good enough for me anyway
kakobrekla: you know how it is, once you go black you can never go back
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430137 << getting out of bed every day is a fucking compromise for me. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 03:04:46; *: kakobrekla curious if asciilifeform ever makes a compromise for the sake of his pet
phf: mircea_popescu: i wonder what happened to him. << i spent some time outside
asciilifeform: phf: good habit.
phf: ^- for reference http://glyf.org/tmp/outside.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIBpda )
kakobrekla: asciilifeform gotta take a leak at some point
kakobrekla: i dont prefer doing it horizontally
asciilifeform: l0l
phf: ben_vulpes: i spent few hours in your city, long enough to collect loot from Powell's Books
asciilifeform: * mircea_popescu has quit (Disconnected by services) << wat?!
mircea_popescu: damned fleanode
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i just talked to assboy
mircea_popescu: apparently it doesn't know what !v is
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu connected to the ftmeade fleanode or what.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's what it says when i ask nickserv to ghost my name.
mircea_popescu: which i gotta do if i'm reconnecting before being officially disconnected.
mircea_popescu: phf hey, looks just like where i'm from.
mircea_popescu: what is this, cascadia ?
phf: yeah, same, it's like being home. birch, evergreen, moss
asciilifeform: neato
asciilifeform: (precious little of this here in the swamps)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00052669 = 1.8961 BTC [+] {4}
kakobrekla lives in jungle by b-a standards
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mircea_popescu: https://cluj-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/assets/pekus-statiunea-baisoara.jpg << the fashionable place for losing one's virginity at the time.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5ZBtB )
kakobrekla: my house is approx visible here http://i.imgur.com/2qJEaL5.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1U606nr )
asciilifeform fires up ac
asciilifeform: without which summer here would not be habitable.
mircea_popescu: still pine
asciilifeform: spring is ~1 week long in the swamp.
asciilifeform: after that - hot sticky mess
asciilifeform: green hell
asciilifeform: like venus prison planet in old sf stories.
phf: asciilifeform: was dreading coming back to dc, it didn't disappoint. it's already getting clammy
phf: meanwhile, in cascadian forest http://glyf.org/tmp/green-outside.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIDjKC )
asciilifeform: mm
mircea_popescu: so why aren't you two moving to seattle or w/e
phf: or http://glyf.org/tmp/bridge-outside.jpg the whole place is out of slavik fairytales
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIDmq3 )
kakobrekla: its not 100% solution !!!1111
mircea_popescu: oh sorry.
asciilifeform: i can't speak for phf
mircea_popescu: yeah srsly phf looks just about right. i guess once i'm out on parole ima go live with ben_vulpes in his guest bedroom.
asciilifeform: but swamp is one of the two kolymas where they have asciilifeforms toil to mine uranium for the 5yearplan
mircea_popescu: what's the other one, the everglades ?
asciilifeform: (the other being the godforsaken 10,000usd broomcloset flat bay area)
asciilifeform: sf bay
mircea_popescu: and in other news, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jw_v3F_Q0
assbot: The Kingston Trio - M.T.A. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U60qT6 )
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asciilifeform: famous!
asciilifeform: i learned it from pet.
mircea_popescu: how about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0TtIRpG-jE ?
assbot: Everglades - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U60wdx )
mircea_popescu: " Where a man can hide and never be found and have no fear of the bayin' hounds. But he better keep movin' and don't stand still. If the 'skeeters don't get then the 'gaters will"
asciilifeform: sounds right.
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phf: i don't actually have any reason to stay in dc long term, maybe another few months to a year
phf: but unlike ascii i don't have any aversion to shit jobs as long as they pay max and take up min time
phf: i think "full stack" "web" etc. jobs are primarily shit not because you have to hack javascript or manage imbeciles, but because they have notoriously shit pay-time ratios. 9-5-5 for 140k and 1 week vacation? better fucking shoot me
mircea_popescu: you know barrista makes 35k or so.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 140000 * .45 / 8 / 5 / 51
gribble: 30.8823529412
mircea_popescu: about half what a whore makes, if she's serious about it.
asciilifeform: i thought a good whore can make MAXINT !?
mircea_popescu: how did you think that ?
asciilifeform: the ads in volkischer beobachter ?
mircea_popescu: lol ok.
asciilifeform: few hundy / hr
mircea_popescu: it's mostly opportunity cost. she spends her time with you, she can't be at the blackjack table smooching.
asciilifeform: whatever it is, it beats my profession.
asciilifeform: no whore ever punched a motherfucking clock
asciilifeform: or sat in an office.
asciilifeform: or 'boss screen'-d.
BingoBoingo: I dunno, they might have to actually punch clock at the regulated Nevada brothels
asciilifeform has nfi
asciilifeform: i've never set foot there and dont expect to
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> no whore ever punched a motherfucking clock << you're kidding, right ?
mircea_popescu: 4 an hour, baby.
asciilifeform: waiwut?!
mircea_popescu: most whores alive today, as wel las historically, do punch clock, and also live in a fucking office.
mircea_popescu: it's a large dark damp room, with sheet separated beds.
asciilifeform: client punches clock!
asciilifeform: this is different!
asciilifeform: like lawyer.
mircea_popescu: i think youy maybe haven't seen so many whores at work.
asciilifeform: mebbe not
asciilifeform: i guess the sheet whores are similar to the wwwstack programmers
asciilifeform: many of'em but no nyoozpaper ad
mircea_popescu: take a vacation, go to say costa rica, check out how the girls live.
asciilifeform recalls mircea_popescu article on same
asciilifeform: wish i had such a thing as vacation.
deedbot-: [Qntra] F-35 Software Requiring Hard Reboots While Airborne - http://qntra.net/2016/03/f-35-software-requiring-hard-reboots-while-airborne/
BingoBoingo suspects alf may have problem mod6 wrestled with last month, may actually despite protest require time away from keyboard and instead eating delicious beef in southern hemisphere.
asciilifeform: would go right now if could.
asciilifeform: and not come back, if could.
asciilifeform: this hell is not for people
asciilifeform: should be left to mice, fleas, bureaucrats.
BingoBoingo: Honestly I though the swampy aspects of here were bad, but your descriptions of the swamp make me thankful for my present climate
mircea_popescu: ;;google argentina weather
gribble: Buenos Aires , Argentina - The Weather Channel - Weather.com: <http://www.weather.com/weather/today/l/Buenos+Aires+Argentina+ARBA0009:1:AR>; Climate of Argentina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Argentina>; Weather in Argentina - Lonely Planet: <http://www.lonelyplanet.com/argentina/weather>
BingoBoingo: AC is not one yet, though I did spread a bunch of BTi this afternoon to get a head start on mosquito control due to the mild winter.
asciilifeform: i have ~24 yrs of stoked hatred for the fuckngswamp
mircea_popescu: wait, you lived there whole lyf ?! ☟︎
BingoBoingo: get a reciprocating saw and take that hatred out on nature. It will make you feel better
asciilifeform: what nature.
asciilifeform: scarcely anything to saw here.
asciilifeform: shrubs, sickly things.
asciilifeform: soil is red clay.
BingoBoingo: That just means saw feels even more powerful
asciilifeform: i nearly destroyed the chainsaw last time
BingoBoingo: yellow/orange clay here grows giant plants just fine
asciilifeform: it did not like the shrubs.
BingoBoingo: See, this is not a chainsaw job, too much power... it gets confused and tears at self.
cazalla: arvo'
BingoBoingo: arvo' to you too
cazalla: looks more like a shrub BingoBoingo
cazalla: chainsaw wouldn't be sporting though so all good
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You just need cheapest 18 volt reciprocating saw made by TTi and branded with whatever battery system pisses you off least + 5 tpi blade. Instant stress relief.
asciilifeform: not much to saw, again
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Well, didn't have much time
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But the shrubs!?
asciilifeform: and mosquitoes eat you alive.
cazalla: how about a hand axe? got that wrist strength, was an ezmode job for the few trees around here i axed down
BingoBoingo: BTi werkz for mosquitoes. Not the adults, but generally can be guerilla applied sufficient radius to protect own yard.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Neighbor's fence on one side. My shed on the other. No room to swing.
asciilifeform: i'd actually rather have moar treez
asciilifeform: than less
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cazalla: well chopping one down doesn't preclude you from planting a few more
BingoBoingo: Also real trees love hard clay soil
cazalla: that's what i did here.. pissed the non-fruit bearing trees here off, replace with fruit-bearing
asciilifeform: i know a fella who does this
asciilifeform: lives in westvrginia.
asciilifeform: b00lcrap are you alive?
BingoBoingo: aha, him!
asciilifeform: ;;later tell b00lcrap come back to us.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: old friend
asciilifeform: he has trouble getting a reliable net socket.
asciilifeform: tcp over old slave banjo.
asciilifeform: or the like.
kakobrekla: mega map http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1PtI6GVXXXXbpXXXXq6xXFXXXf/222422998/HTB1PtI6GVXXXXbpXXXXq6xXFXXXf.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QLptZi )
cazalla: BingoBoingo, got much going on in the garden this spring of yours?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: l0l wats this, led lamps?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: So far jsut tidying up tree litter out front and clearing feral corner of the back which is pretty much done
kakobrekla: science and technology!
BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdPQmwqVIAA3xV1.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1nBFKnN )
kakobrekla: unrelatedly, just ordered 9690sa-8l as per ascii, had to do it from the states because it appears to be a rare thing in europe with price factor of ~5
BingoBoingo: cazalla: What about yout garden this fall?
cazalla: got a second batch of cucumbers in, and put some broccoli, cabbage and cauliflower in last week, snow peas go in next month
BingoBoingo: sweet
cazalla: and enough pickled tomatoes from the summer to last until next spring
BingoBoingo: We had a very mild winter so no die back on the rosebushes and the spring bulb have had leaves up testing the weather since late december
cazalla: down under summer was cooler than usually, at least it felt that way, no 3-4 day heat waves anyway so garden did well
cazalla: re: trump image.. you know that's all they're talking about here in the oz media, trump this, trump that, you'd think he was running for PM of aus ☟︎
cazalla: (which in a round about way, probably is ha)
kakobrekla: >According to the Transmission website version 2.90 was infected with malware.
kakobrekla: sorta old (4 days)
BingoBoingo strongly suspects the outcome is going to be a brokered convention with Trump continuing his run and losing on a third party or independent ticket ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> sorta old (4 days) << <kakobrekla> sorta old (4 days)
BingoBoingo: ^http://qntra.net/2016/03/ransomware-comes-to-osx-bittorrent-client/
BingoBoingo: sorry
kakobrekla: ah
kakobrekla: my bad.
BingoBoingo: it happens
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ben_vulpes: phf: whatsat, forest park?
ben_vulpes: also dood wtf you stop in the city, swing through powells, and can't go 2 mi out of the way to get your eyes on my fp and mine on yours?
ben_vulpes: woulda taken all of ten minutes to swing through the office and you'd have left with at least three bottles of literally unprocureable elsewhere dundee wines
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 10.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Donald Trump will win the 2016 United States Presidential Election - http://bitbet.us/bet/1250/donald-trump-will-win-the-2016-united-states/#b35
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shinohai: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 421.9, vol: 6283.83820480 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 421.0, vol: 6771.87737 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 423.58, vol: 18864.3173366 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 425.0, vol: 1.67574497 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 426.80832, vol: 45131.61010000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 421.521, vol: 3283.97378095 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 426.08604, vol: 67.71487241 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
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shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/U2jiFxh.jpg <<< lel
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QMeOxA )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430316 << they're doing the same in argentina, all the bored she-derps in the press and media generally feel ever so threatened by him. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 04:57:03; cazalla: re: trump image.. you know that's all they're talking about here in the oz media, trump this, trump that, you'd think he was running for PM of aus
mircea_popescu: they had bought into the ustard liberal nonsense, how is this possibru! church of clinton&hussein, best in world!
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mircea_popescu: #nounamenos!11
mircea_popescu: oh oops, i think it's spelled #quantanamena or something.
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430320 << nah, he's winning on third party and buries gop 4evar. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 05:00:18; *: BingoBoingo strongly suspects the outcome is going to be a brokered convention with Trump continuing his run and losing on a third party or independent ticket
mircea_popescu: best lulz outcome.
mircea_popescu: if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters.
mircea_popescu: ;;ud fp ☟︎
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FP&defid=1022662 | FP. F.P. or Fag Potential is a person whos sexuality is doubtfull; somone who can be straight but in his actions/clothing/talking/mannerisms can act gay. Gaylord: ...
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ?
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mircea_popescu: and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg ☟︎☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQkg6 )
PeterL: hey, some of my work got cited in the WSJ: http://archive.is/BUGGs
assbot: Laundry Detergent From Jessica Alba’s Honest Co. Contains Ingredient It Pledged to Avoid - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQwMp )
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430369 <<< it's surprisingly easy to get these from any docs office on unsecured lan xD ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 13:09:14; mircea_popescu: and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: ajhaha nice PeterL
mircea_popescu: care to make a brief qntra ? it's lulzy enough i think
shinohai: #fail (-_-\)
PeterL: Sure, I could put something together
PeterL: can I add more quotes from me, they only quoted my coworker in the article?
mircea_popescu: which is you, impact analyutical ?
PeterL: yep
mircea_popescu: you can add whatever you want, your article.
PeterL: aha
mircea_popescu: personal authority, it's a thing. you were there, you saw it, as long as you're willing to swear to it, that'\s what it is.
mircea_popescu: who dun like it can swear to something else. ☟︎
shinohai: worked for the parents who swore maple syrup trumps science.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430262 << i was moved to this chimp reservation as 9yo, this was in old thread, aha ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 04:33:35; mircea_popescu: wait, you lived there whole lyf ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is unsanitary. "live in most of the world" is CERTAINLY a step in making mps.
asciilifeform: got net pipe soon after, grew up malignantly asocial
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that would need MONEY
mircea_popescu: this may be a crippling impediment in children, but it is not in adults. i had a girl like that, she was ordered to pick up girls in the street every day. and she did. and it went away.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform money, my dear alf, is by and large a crutch. if you need money to make friends the problem's not the money.
asciilifeform: anyway i'm certainly no mircea_popescu , just a half-man chimeric dr mengele creation.
asciilifeform: gurlz are programmable.
mircea_popescu: and what, your own head is bad chinese fpga and you misplaced teh keys ?
asciilifeform: antifuse.
mircea_popescu: you know, it's funny
mircea_popescu: that's what the gurlz think, also.
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asciilifeform: nobody rechips male nobodies under microscope, harem is an asymmetrical thing
asciilifeform: if your ballz are still attached - yer on your own.
asciilifeform: fwiw.
mircea_popescu: there is that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is an upside to the 24years of kolyma. i dun think anyone alive hates this place, as ~accurately~ and deeply as i do.
asciilifeform: i hate every speck of dust on every pavement tile.
mircea_popescu: lol so what, gonna move into poetry ?
asciilifeform: just to point out.
asciilifeform: !s http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQkg6 )
assbot: 0 results for 'http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2F36.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: wat?!
asciilifeform: 2 just today
asciilifeform: but i was quite certain we had it before, in december maybe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9963 @ 0.00052405 = 5.2211 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: i still have nfi how #b-a search actually worx, it certainly is not grep-compat.
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: wut ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430369 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 13:09:14; mircea_popescu: and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: hm was before ?
asciilifeform: i thought so.
mircea_popescu: hm... i just grepped log ? nope ?
mircea_popescu: are you confusing ukr blondy for another ukr blondy perhaps ?
mircea_popescu: or maybe different teeny slut wore the same buttstring to teh beach.
asciilifeform: with anatomy school backdrop
asciilifeform: definitely had that before
mircea_popescu: ah, that yes.
mircea_popescu: same studio, wadda ya want, new scenography ?
mircea_popescu: new coat of wallpaint costs 10x more than new girls.
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: and EVEN SO human reproduction is overly expensive
mircea_popescu: in biologic terms.
asciilifeform: even more expensive if you reintroduce QA as per yesterday thread !111
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: '...for your convenience we have packaged the defective 8% of transistors you asked for, separately!' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: depends to. the problem here is that high value males are interested in owning females, not interested in producing litter. consequently, western world has fertility crisis. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if society were actually sane, i'd prolly reproduce, so the cost issue is iffy.
asciilifeform: ~nobody cares to breed muppets for hitler's army.
mircea_popescu: quite.
mircea_popescu: even without shoehorning "hitler" in here, the only sane way reproduction works is that i have life and death power over any offspring until they go on their own.
asciilifeform: aha!
mircea_popescu: then the female drive to reproduce is finally balanced, and i frankly wouldn't care if they want or don't want to get pregnant, make your own choices.
asciilifeform: recall the thread we had when i was at c3.
mircea_popescu: vaguely, which ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-04-2015#1106799 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 03:59:18; ascii_lander: i would like the ability to shoot them, for example, at any age
mircea_popescu: possibly shooting no good. you wanna kill it, you gotta strangle it. stab it. something.
mircea_popescu: shooting's too clean.
asciilifeform: drown. traditinal!
asciilifeform: !s dumplings
assbot: 20 results for 'dumplings' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dumplings
mircea_popescu: i guess.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#509010 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2014 22:04:18; asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them'
asciilifeform: as it is i'd rather eat nagant.
asciilifeform: for offspring you need sane world + economic surplus (at least at the not-being-in-labour-camp level)
mircea_popescu: demographically it's rather lulzy, tho. take europe : it went through three to twelve generations of this negative selection, 0 reproduction from higher value individuals, depending how you count the generations. and, woe of woes : BEFORE, the better tatars came raiding, and raped. so it fixed things, for a century or two.
asciilifeform: or, alternatively, being stray dog who doesnt giveafuq
mircea_popescu: but now, the higher value arabs are ALSO sitting home with the bitches, and sending the runts over.
mircea_popescu: there is ~no way europe doesn't turn into africa.
mircea_popescu: it's like, "take the lowest quartile of this population, let it reproduce with the lower quartile of that population, see what you get"
mircea_popescu: i dunno, flying mice ?
asciilifeform: subsahara aha
asciilifeform: coming soon to an africa near you.
mircea_popescu: that's the thing various derps dun wanna say. sure, numerically, 500mn europe, what does it care about 5mn immigrants.
asciilifeform: 5mn snackbat cox tho
asciilifeform: snackbar
mircea_popescu: well, it cares, because that 500mn europe has a 1.x children per woman, and 90% of them are made with idiots, and the 5mn are... also idiots. once you start looking at the actual demographic breakdown, it couldn't really take 50k of the derps.
asciilifeform: incidentally i wonder if tatar rape therapy even works any moar - many (most?) of the prospective 'patients' take steroidal bc pill...
mircea_popescu: wouldn't work, no.
asciilifeform: so then.
mircea_popescu: what, you were under the impression i was proposing solutions ?
mircea_popescu: i'm just explaining why i'd rather kandahar than holland is all.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-11-2015#1324872 << thread ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 16:37:59; mircea_popescu: and em-poor-en.
asciilifeform: nah they do solutions in the solution house.
asciilifeform: on mars.
asciilifeform: here on earth we do: problemz
mircea_popescu: 2015 europe had 5mn live births. selected for suckage. add 5mn from outside, idem selected, suddenly it looks like it is.
asciilifeform bbl, mounting stake
mircea_popescu: and mind you, the idiocy is quite infectious. they way they state it is that "eu-28 showed signs of increasing fertility but the trend reversed".
mircea_popescu: irl, "romania, poland et all didn't have the problem - until they joined eu".
mircea_popescu: because yes, romania poland et all did have a sort-of, "i made you an' ima kill you, now go learn that fucking multiplication table". again, until "aquis"
mircea_popescu: they say it in latin, too, as if that makes eau d'idiot something valuable now.
mircea_popescu: the "aquis", the codified idiocy we've slowly coallesced into gallows.
mircea_popescu: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/11414064/How-Europe-is-slowly-dying-despite-an-increasing-world-population.html << great map there. who doesn't have the problem ? oh, the uk, because
assbot: How Europe is slowly dying despite an increasing world population - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWxI4q )
mircea_popescu: !s rotherham
assbot: 15 results for 'rotherham' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rotherham
mircea_popescu: and france. because hey, same deal, no press.
mircea_popescu: i thought i had written up irreversible, but apparently not ? anyway, http://hollywoodabuse.com/monica-belluccis-anal-rape-scene/
assbot: Monica Bellucci’s anal rape scene ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhYXXW )
mircea_popescu: that poor woman, she's done no film without a rape scene in it. if there ever was an actor that actually answered to the higher call of the profession, it's probably her. and yet people will readily ignore the point and focus on anything and everything, "hey, random stupid broad with nothing to say wants us to buy detergent!"
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430155 << i used to be this way too ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 03:25:36; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430137 << getting out of bed every day is a fucking compromise for me.
nubbins`: i assumed this was "normal" until it just stopped happening one day ☟︎
PeterL: BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/46717797-1efb-4cde-bd4c-a6674a46e32a/?raw=true
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWzfaS )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00052545 = 3.8358 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430365 << mega-l0l!!! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 13:05:46; mircea_popescu: ;;ud fp
danielpbarron: i assume he meant fingerprint, as in the gpg variety
mircea_popescu: hehe
PeterL: mircea_popescu re:map of birthrates, any explanation for why thailand is so low? the other low places are japan and europe, which have been developed for a while, thailand seems an outlier
mircea_popescu: i'm entirely unsure. ladyboys ?
mircea_popescu: thailand is a pretty interesting case - back in the 90s it seemed very well positioned to become a tech superpower. then... fizzled, somehow. korea won.
PeterL: could also just be where they put the cutoff for the colors, thailand barely makes the bottom category, US and canada are barely into the next color
thestringpuller: eventually birthrate -> 0 and we have children of men?
mircea_popescu: PeterL aha.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no, eventually birthrate -> .5 and we forgot this particular hittite empire ever existed, just like all the other ones.
mircea_popescu: not like it made anything that'd be remembered once it stops paying for the service.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9368 @ 0.00052663 = 4.9335 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430497 << stopped how ? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 14:12:45; nubbins`: i assumed this was "normal" until it just stopped happening one day
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0005291 = 1.0582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00052852 = 2.3519 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4497 @ 0.00052736 = 2.3715 BTC [-] {2}
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump will win the 2016 United States Presidential Election - http://bitbet.us/bet/1250/donald-trump-will-win-the-2016-united-states/#b39
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00052705 = 2.9251 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00052605 = 2.1568 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/40505.html
assbot: mjg59 | I stayed in a hotel with Android lightswitches and it was just as bad as you'd imagine ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWTgxS )
shinohai: why does lightswitch need to know whoami ?
PeterL: shinohai so they can display personalized ads all around you
thestringpuller: haha!
shinohai: adblock for lightswitches and toasters.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters. << yeah, this way he prolly gets 20-27% of general election vote, GOP nominee gets 20-27% of vote, and Clitler gets 51.5% ☟︎
shinohai: https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/708289009873784832
PeterL: In Mich if you are on a primary ballot, you cannot be listed as an independent or other party for the general, I had to write in Gary Johnson in 2012
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00053028 = 4.2953 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/10/apple-fbi-could-force-us-to-turn-on-iphone-cameras-microphones << check out Apple dropping hints
assbot: FBI could force us to turn on iPhone cameras and microphones, says Apple | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1pkIQyn )
trinque: could my ass
asciilifeform: 'nsa could force us to capture packets' -- at&t
trinque: so now we'll have "had the debate" as per BingoBoingo, and the above will be overt SOP ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'farmer could force us to live in own shit' -- pigs
asciilifeform: 'shit could force us to eat it' -- fly
trinque: lol
PeterL: asciilifeform re:quiet computer, have you considered having big computer in basement, using a chrombox-like thing as a silent terminal?
asciilifeform: PeterL: i have no basement.
PeterL: well, closet far from chair?
asciilifeform: or i'd have run dvi-over-fiber long ago
PeterL: attic?
asciilifeform: i don't have a proper place for this.
asciilifeform: at all.
asciilifeform: attic is not hermetically sealed.
asciilifeform: very high humidity there, year round.
asciilifeform: and megatonnes of dirt blowing in.
PeterL: I guess this just goes back to thread on "your rent (per sqft) is too damn high"
asciilifeform: this is only half the story
asciilifeform: in places where it is lower, the pay is ALSO lowe.
asciilifeform: r
asciilifeform: and outside of MAJOR population centers, there is ZERO work for folks like me.
asciilifeform: but to go back to the question, it is a ludicrous 'dirigible' solution
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00053052 = 6.3397 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: a machined copper heat sink might be costly,
asciilifeform: but at least it would not be a RECURRING cost.
asciilifeform: INTO ETERNITY
asciilifeform: wtf.
asciilifeform: why the fuck would i rent a gigantic mansion just to silence computer.
asciilifeform: why not put it in an airplane then.
asciilifeform: yes, possibly mircea_popescu's pc is in orbit.
asciilifeform: and the terminal - is kept in a slavegurl's arse.
asciilifeform: but this is not a useful recipe to me.
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429762 whole discussion reminded me of shit i heard several times "this linux admin we had was always tinkering with the server and there was always something broken. we switched to windows server with IIS and all is swell now!" ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 00:10:56; asciilifeform: no one wants to LIVE badly enough
asciilifeform: why not put out their eyes.
asciilifeform: so they can see even less broken !
asciilifeform: !s room would be empty
assbot: 3 results for 'room would be empty' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=room+would+be+empty
deedbot-: [Qntra] "Honest" Soap Scandal Deepens: A Chemist Speaks - http://qntra.net/2016/03/honest-soap-scandal-deepens-a-chemist-speaks/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00052583 = 2.4188 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: I don't like laureate-contining stuff because it's hard to wash off.
BingoBoingo: I'm indifferent to it
jurov: And when i do repeat and wash it off, the skin is left completely stripped of fat film, which is not healthy.
BingoBoingo: Aha, this is why it can be an irritant
jurov: well, i know people "indifferent to it" the developed hand eczemas after 20y of using it.
jurov: *then
jurov: oh, it is irritant if you get it into the eyes
BingoBoingo: Skin's a tricky thing
BingoBoingo: But yeah, eyes really need their film
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1996 @ 0.00052583 = 1.0496 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo doesn't understand what was so wrong about lye soap
asciilifeform: so ~that's~ what was in evil soap
asciilifeform: i have a list of soaps that ughh won'twashoff
asciilifeform: not to ever buy.
BingoBoingo: Yes, it is in all of the evil soaps
asciilifeform: at least room temperature cheese one will never buy by chance.
BingoBoingo: But detergent pretending to be honest soap hides well
BingoBoingo: until wet
BingoBoingo: !up pigeons
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00052582 = 5.6789 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.0005263 = 4.6578 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Won a "comedy hack day" prize https://archive.is/9ZwAW
assbot: New App Splits Meal Bills So White Males Pay Extra for Their Privilege | Alternet ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH5pcg )
pete_dushenski: l0l
pete_dushenski: i guess from now on massa is just gonna pick up the tab for his slaves
pete_dushenski: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600980/a-bitcoin-style-currency-for-central-banks/ << prb-fork contender
assbot: A Bitcoin-Style Currency for Central Banks ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH6gKf )
pete_dushenski: http://www0.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/G.Danezis/papers/ndss16currencies.pdf << related lolpaper
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QN7tO4 )
fluffypony: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/47z1xd/in_the_future_will_we_be_using_ethereumlike/d0gf65j
assbot: vbuterin comments on In the future, will we be using Ethereum-like (& slock.it like) tech to document consensual sexual intercourse? ... ( http://bit.ly/1QN7uln )
pete_dushenski: da fuck is '$xxx' gonna do to raise a child ?
jurov: didn't he go further? like, upload your genome to eth, and let it procreate
fluffypony: I have no words
trinque: "A small collection of third-party organizations would be chosen by the central bank to process new transactions and submit them for inclusion in the central ledger." << >> http://biblehub.com/revelation/13-16.htm
assbot: Revelation 13:16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH7Co9 )
trinque: not that I'm religious.
pete_dushenski: like ash wednesday, every day
pete_dushenski: "Billionaire investor and Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel tells Fortune that he thinks that Palantir's data software can actually help end ubiquitous surveillance by showing agencies like the NSA exactly who's up to no good, so they can leave everybody else alone." << fuck thiel with alf's telephone pole-sized stake. who is dumb enough to believe that this is how ~anything~ works ?
pete_dushenski: specifically, that the nsa doesn't leave ~everyone alone as a matter of practical necessity ?
thestringpuller: this ties into Big Data "alchemist's AI" discussion
pete_dushenski: and, hell, alphago
thestringpuller: meh. being a huge fan of AI, I understand the harware yet exists to create more formative models of "intelligence"
thestringpuller: the next best thing is data mining and running it through "machine learning" to create models.
thestringpuller: Pure unsupervised learning I don't think is possible which I guess ascii and I both yearn for...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7792 @ 0.00052898 = 4.1218 BTC [+] {4}
pete_dushenski: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-blockchain-summit-with-richard-branson-on-necker-island << for enteblockchainologists only
assbot: My Wet and Wild Bitcoin Weekend On Richard Branson's Island Refuge | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1YHbuFI )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7876 @ 0.0005257 = 4.1404 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: wats with all the redditesque crud.
asciilifeform: snore.
asciilifeform can't be bothered to read any
pete_dushenski: well, you have a stake to sit on, neh ?
pete_dushenski: reddit is like a pseudo-stake for people who don't otherwise have one, but care to dip their toes in now and again
asciilifeform: that would make sense if it paid people
pete_dushenski: people don't need to be paid. pee-ple. not redditards, now.
pete_dushenski: or people need to be paid but it's not stake-bad
asciilifeform: what i mean is, i shovel boring crud for money.
asciilifeform: but i can't fathom why to do it voluntarily.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4324 @ 0.00053038 = 2.2934 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: "we should have wine at work every friday" - the girls in my department ☟︎
trinque: sounds like a great tradition in the making
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11968 @ 0.00052545 = 6.2886 BTC [-]
jurov: thestringpuller: propose topless days
pete_dushenski: for the men only
jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00263 / 0.00295359 / 0.00304264 (264 shares, 0.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00254491 / 0.00280379 / 0.00370358 (3016 shares, 8.46 BTC), 30D: 0.00253517 / 0.00275579 / 0.00370358 (11971 shares, 32.99 BTC)
jurov: ;;calc 1/0.00295359
gribble: 338.571027123
jurov: should i call this bull or bear?
pete_dushenski: depends how hairy
jurov: or call davout?
asciilifeform: <+jurov> should i call this bull or bear? << boar.
jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 376.79, Best ask: 380.99, Bid-ask spread: 4.20000, Last trade: 381.0, 24 hour volume: 39.71691309, 24 hour low: 371.4, 24 hour high: 383.98, 24 hour vwap: 379.89636294
jurov: ^ just to make sense to logreaders
jurov: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-10/incredible-story-how-hackers-stole-100-million-new-york-fed << what should alf be doing instead
assbot: The Incredible Story Of How Hackers Stole $100 Million From The New York Fed | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1RVodlf )
jurov: he would surely not misspell "foundation" as "fandation"
jurov: Well, as it turns out, Bangladesh doesn't agree that the Fed isn't ultimately culpable. "We kept money with the Federal Reserve Bank and irregularities must be with the people who handle the funds there," Finance Minister Abul Maal Abdul Muhith said on Wednesday.
jurov: irregularities ftw!
jurov: like, some irregularities must have been with mircea_popescu when he went to experiment with bitbet funds
asciilifeform: jurov: idiotic article. as if nobodies could move 100m wherever.
BingoBoingo: http://i.imgur.com/a7wNwql.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UZ4FPG )
jurov: asciilifeform: you don't like to see the beast bleed?
jurov: and why do you think this did not happen?
asciilifeform: jurov: the beast is not bleeding. it moved coin from its left pocket to right. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: let's even assume, charitably , that there WAS a theft.
asciilifeform: instead of simple launder by usg.
BingoBoingo: Maybe beast did bleed, but alf is just in wrong swamp to take delivery of blood?
asciilifeform: if you HAVE A PLACE TO PUT stolen electric fiat,
asciilifeform: YOU ARE WELL CONNECTED.
asciilifeform: what part of this is hard to understand ?
jurov: well, the image mircea projects is such that he *would* be able to provide you with account numbers on asking
jurov: so, imo worth trying
asciilifeform: fiat isn't btc, nobody walks away with irretrievable 100m. ☟︎
asciilifeform: nor is it ever a permanent mystery which door to break down.
jurov: you don't need 100m, i hope
asciilifeform: nor is any organization ever seriously pwned except via substantial humint component.
jurov: such as.. guessing the right email addresses when sending transfer requests?
asciilifeform: jurov: if i knew how to rob hitler, i wouldn't be poor.
asciilifeform: what, you think my conscience would torture me ?
jurov: i have no idea what to think
jurov: wrt you
jurov: you seem to be in war, but with utterly impenetrable and undefinable entity
asciilifeform: why not clean out the fuhrer's pockets yourself, if you think you know how...
jurov: i am not in war
trinque: eh lacking the infrastructure to protect oneself this is not a heist worth pulling
trinque: and that's not something you JIT after having done so
asciilifeform: jurov: you may not be interested in the war, but, to borrow from trotsky, 'the war is quite interested in you'
jurov: i am interested but so far i have not noticed anything beyond derping noise
asciilifeform: ...?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00052946 = 3.7062 BTC [+]
jurov: i have not seen anything that can't be explained by gross incompetence
asciilifeform: srsly?!
jurov: srsly.
asciilifeform: the phork warz, mean nothing to jurov ?
asciilifeform: hearn is just an incompetent ?
asciilifeform: gavin meant well?!
asciilifeform: what is this.
trinque: he just had lunch buddies at the cia
jurov: they are just another derps
asciilifeform: j. dimon is also an innocent fool?
asciilifeform: jurov is on lsd ?
jurov: who is dimon?
asciilifeform: !s dimon
assbot: 22 results for 'dimon' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dimon
jurov: what about genjix? he was on TV, must be teh enemy!!!
asciilifeform: and waterfall never happened, aha
asciilifeform: and no one deletes tmsr material from reddit, and hn
asciilifeform: and no one stole mircea_popescu's servers.
asciilifeform: and no one power cycled phuctor.
asciilifeform: etc.
asciilifeform: ahahahaha.
asciilifeform: jurov talk to your lsd supplier plox.
asciilifeform: he is giving you impure material.
asciilifeform: and of course nobody http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-02-2016#1396681 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 20:42:54; ascii_butugychag: or the derp who called me on the disconnected phone?
asciilifeform: and nobody ddosed qntra, trilema
asciilifeform: and nobody http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you
assbot: On how the factored 4096 RSA keys story was handled, and what it means to you. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UZ9Gbe )
asciilifeform: etc.
jurov: this yes. but not gavin and hearn
asciilifeform: i suppose it was all incompetence.
asciilifeform: if incompetence is indistinguishable from wrecking, it ~IS~ wrecking.
asciilifeform: and is to be dealt with in exactly same way.
asciilifeform: we had this thread re: ninjashogun.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10831 @ 0.00053072 = 5.7482 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249399 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 05:06:06; trinque: I demand for this to never have happened at once! ☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;seen ninjashogun
gribble: ninjashogun was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 18 weeks, 0 days, 14 hours, 41 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <ninjashogun> I am only interested in building real-world businesses with real income streams, not taking bitcoin investments for something and running off iwth it. (Not referencing anyone here, this was a recent case with Moolah, for example. Or at least accusation.)
asciilifeform: ;;seen strup`fndr
gribble: I have not seen strup`fndr.
asciilifeform: ;;seen strup
gribble: I have not seen strup.
asciilifeform: ;;seen strp
gribble: strp was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 23 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 6 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <strp> no thanks, thickasthieves. I don't have to justify talking with anyone else I talk with.
asciilifeform: frolicking with the spmalkyries in spmalhalla, isn't he.
asciilifeform: ;;seen decimation
gribble: decimation was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 30 weeks, 6 days, 17 hours, 58 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <decimation> I enjoyed my time here, learned much, had many lolz. I do not wish to cause drama or be an impediment to improving bitcoin. Even though I presently have L2 rating from a few people, I am not going impose on their good grace by remaining. God bless all of you.
asciilifeform: ;;seen polarbeard
gribble: polarbeard was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 36 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <polarbeard> cpp is full of it
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430515 << retired ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 15:56:24; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430497 << stopped how ?
asciilifeform: so turns out nubbins` has more in common with mircea_popescu than with asciilifeform
jurov: asciilifeform: since you nicely ennumerated the activity, how would the adacoin or your refusal to pay taxes from btc sale help against these?
nubbins`: my father retired, picked up two new part-time jobs
jurov: against meddling with servers and media?
asciilifeform: jurov: having 'key servers' or whatever central point of failure invites hitler.
nubbins`: asciilifeform mircea_popescu has a post-secondary education?!
asciilifeform: nubbins`: iirc he did.
nubbins`: imagine
asciilifeform: philosophy, iirc
nubbins`: lol.
asciilifeform: but earlier he ran away from maths
nubbins`: makes sense
nubbins`: also makes sense
asciilifeform: it is in the logz
nubbins`: if cannot grok numbers, try grokking universe
nubbins`: mathematics is an entirely philosophical pursuit fwiw
asciilifeform: iirc he grokked just fine, but decided he'd rather do business.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14175 @ 0.00052946 = 7.5051 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins` just finished setting up 6-colour job on the press
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00053073 = 4.5908 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13567 @ 0.00052944 = 7.1829 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: nubbins`: neato
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4356 @ 0.0005256 = 2.2895 BTC [-] {4}
shinohai: ok #b-a I need a wireless router, what choose?
asciilifeform: shinohai: make it yourself
asciilifeform: out of whatever fanless box + wireless nic
shinohai doesn't have a spare nic :/
jurov: i bought miniitx celeron + pci wifi card + old hdd and found out that with 8G RAM it can be used for *anything*
jurov: there's gigabyte board with 2 ports
jurov: ethernet
asciilifeform: i like 'pcengines'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15077 @ 0.00052862 = 7.97 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: amd g-series.
asciilifeform: single-board pancake thing.
BingoBoingo: If you're quarentining the wireless network to play with toys on the discontinued "airrouter HP" will offer rather good range at cheapish price. Just do srs networking on something else.
BingoBoingo: But the alf solution + quality antenna is the right way to do it.
shinohai: so dedi box it is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15073 @ 0.00052879 = 7.9705 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: "airrouter" in one of the unfortunate ubiquiti things that does not quite have the run whatever you want ability possessed by "edgerouter lite" but for toy purposes It is hard to beat the range it offers for anything close to its price.
shinohai: i got this old cantenna here too.
shinohai: so could make a repeater
BingoBoingo has an airrouter not the HP version serving some toys here. Playing with iptables over ssh is nice, but can not run whole set of AWS blocker rules on its own without crashing.
shinohai: what firmware ?
BingoBoingo: shinohai: "airos"
shinohai: im using dd-wrt now :/
jurov: BingoBoingo: what, iptables crashes on your rules?
shinohai: this is like 0.25 from china http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Airrouter-Ethernet-Wireless-Broadband/dp/B00V5EJS0I
assbot: Amazon.com: Ubiquiti Airrouter Ar. Hp Ieee 802.11N Ethernet Wireless Router . 2.40 Ghz Ism Band . 1 X Antenna1 X External) . 656.2 Ft Indoor Range . 150 Mbps Wireless Speed . 4 X Network Port . 1 X Broadband Port . Usb . Fast Ethernet . No Desktop "Product Type: Wireless Devices/Wireless Routers": C ... ( http://bit.ly/21ndYcf )
jurov: in other news, http://hugelolcdn.com/i700/380367.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/21neaYL )
BingoBoingo: jurov: It does on chintzy $30 wireless router when using all the AWS blocking rules generated by alf script
BingoBoingo: shinohai: It can be had cheaper
shinohai: im in the middle of a build, still shopping around
BingoBoingo: ~750 lines of iptables rules crashes it. ~100 does not.
BingoBoingo: Of all things, 'top' manages to crash it
BingoBoingo: but left in place to route it works
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00053073 = 4.3785 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: or mebbe it is the combination of 'top' and keeping an ssh tunnel open.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00053073 = 4.9889 BTC [+]
jurov: BingoBoingo:looking at banhammer, you actually only need lines marked as EC2 as these are the evil VPSes. and changing REJECT to DROP may help with resource usage, too
BingoBoingo: jurov: Twas set as drop. Problem though may actually have been RAM contrainsts. Anyways twas a stress test. Do actual blocking elsewhere.
jurov: btw, i searched via logs and found that https://archive.is/http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000187.html is not archived at archive.is
assbot: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000187.html ... ( http://bit.ly/1plaZp3 )
BingoBoingo: interesting
jurov: prolly nobody used it yet.. i now archived it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7679 @ 0.00052545 = 4.0349 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: and i'd try to use raw iptables table
BingoBoingo: http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2016/03/08/up-to-speed-on-meldonium
assbot: Up to Speed on Meldonium | In the Pipeline ... ( http://bit.ly/1plcJyK )
asciilifeform: lulzy, https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-recovers-stolen-indian-artifacts-major-auction-house-ahead-asia-week-new-york
assbot: ICE recovers stolen Indian artifacts from major auction house ahead of Asia Week New York | ICE ... ( http://bit.ly/1pdLO74 )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ^ qntra ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00052456 = 11.5403 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00052764 = 5.9096 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: lemme take a look
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00052764 = 1.794 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: jesus freenode is fucking useless is it.
kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/n2sHG8E.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QNBVI5 )
shinohai: communism at it's finest.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'A huge difference: In the former Soviet block an academic scientist published in order to satisfy the party commissars of his/her proper and productive use of funds dispensed by the government. In western countries an academic scientist publishes in order to demonstrate to grant review committee members his/her proper and productive use of funds dispensed by government-funded gr
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430529 <<< i would be very surprised if clinton gets 30%. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 17:32:25; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters. << yeah, this way he prolly gets 20-27% of general election vote, GOP nominee gets 20-27% of vote, and Clitler gets 51.5%
asciilifeform: ant agencies. '
asciilifeform: lel
mircea_popescu: 20-something's written on her foreheads.
asciilifeform: i will be very surprised if clitler doesn't get 90%.
asciilifeform: by dieboldian fiat, naturally
asciilifeform: but i like surprises.
mircea_popescu: this is how teenagers end up shaving their head.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The US major socialist party, as designated by qntra, gets that designation because its affliated voters actually vote the party line
asciilifeform: i thought it was so the electrodes stick
mircea_popescu: used to. currently, the bottom fell out, and the local nigglets are pissed off.
BingoBoingo: permitted 3rd party and independent candidates nearly always bleed voters from US minor socialist party
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430537 << methinks you may be on to something. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 18:01:59; trinque: so now we'll have "had the debate" as per BingoBoingo, and the above will be overt SOP
mircea_popescu: problem being that every tard out there already "feels like he's secretly in a movie", so this, much like gestapo stuff generally, is well desired by the genpop.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll have to think of an axis on which to turn artifact news.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> by dieboldian fiat, naturally << The beauty of the diebold rigging is the 53% mandate makes things look contested while still ensuring safety for the most scaled lizards
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: electoral reprogramming is not to prevent the mythical 'politican does untoward thing' but rather the milder catastrophe of 'SAYS untoward thing'
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/03/honest-soap-scandal-deepens-a-chemist-speaks/ << this is not so bad as a starter peterl but a) why do you discuss yourself in the 3rd person and b) why is it so aside ?
assbot: "Honest" Soap Scandal Deepens: A Chemist Speaks | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QKZrnM )
mircea_popescu: think about yourself as a reader. then read it. is the piece all it could have been ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: a trump would be electable if he could be certain of not picking up the microphone and prattling about rothchildren
asciilifeform: *if they could be certain of him not
mircea_popescu: i find this proposition that there actually exists a us elite utterly hysterical.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You're confusing Trump the character and Trump the actor
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is not a us elite and has not been since... rockfeller ?
asciilifeform: but there is elite.
asciilifeform: '"With high demand from all corners of the globe, collectors must be certain of provenance before purchasing. I urge dealers and auction houses to take every necessary precaution to avoid facilitating the sale of cultural heritage stolen from other civilizations. If a provenance is in doubt, report it to law enforcement authorities."'
asciilifeform: ^ translation: only APPROVED thieves may steal.
asciilifeform: 'The investigation has also identified Subhash Kapoor, who is currently in custody in India awaiting trial for allegedly looting tens of millions of dollars' worth of rare antiquities from several nations. The trails of looted artifacts have been traced all around the world. Within the past twelve months, four domestic museums and one major collector have partnered with HSI to surrender illic
asciilifeform: it cultural property stemming from Kapoor.'
asciilifeform: ^ translation: a thief's license has been cancelled by hitler, he is to be dekulakized.
BingoBoingo: aha
asciilifeform: 'Since 2007, more than 8,000 artifacts have been returned to 30 countries, including paintings from France, Germany, Poland and Austria ...' << translation: usg muppet regimes need to eat, why not subsidize them cheaply by helping them to sell their art sphincter virginity multiple times
asciilifeform: france sells, usg knocks buyer on the head, sends $rembrandt back... rinse, repeat.
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: how exactly were 8000 items stolen from n countries ?
asciilifeform: by being peacefully sold to unsuspecting sacrificial goats ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430635 << nude fridays, too. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 20:07:10; thestringpuller: "we should have wine at work every friday" - the girls in my department
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we have booze here at $rupturefarm
asciilifeform: it dun help.
asciilifeform: i open various cabinets in search of office supplies and keep finding liquor.
mircea_popescu: yeah wel lyou don't work at webstack firm.
asciilifeform: what do they have there? heroin ?
mircea_popescu: sluts.