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trinque: at any rate one of you has a beard almost
as awesome
as mine.
trinque: dorion_road: btw, your gales has the same problem mp_en_viaje pointed out about my cuntoo. it doesn't actually have the sources of the dependencies. one provides those
as tarballs.
diana_coman:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955265 - maybe it's something specific to the 3d block there that messes it up though it's not all that likely (if for no other reason than the basic 1. at first it worked 2. it still works
as a separate footnote); anyways, I don't think it's worth the time right now to chase it fully.
trinque: going back to "what is trinque signaling to dorion_road?" do not take ^
as some kind of invincibility.
mp_en_viaje: basically "we're imploding, the dnc is never getting another seat in the house, let's go out with a bang" kinda backfired
as an exit strategy.
BingoBoingo: And generally reduce the US role
as the place things go first before hitting the rest of the Americas.
mp_en_viaje: honestly i see no further point to europe. other than the high rents, the whiteboys north of the mediterranean are just
as african
as the black boys south.
BingoBoingo:
As Tupamaro leader Mujica says "No hay que ponerse delante de tanque"
mp_en_viaje: seems about
as fake
as "industry" or "economy", a putative imagined item, i'm supposed to believe "
everything's online" just like i'm supposed to believe
0-value items are "an industry"
mp_en_viaje: except for the part where it's unclear such a thing
as society exists, past 90s.
mp_en_viaje:
as this things ever
work, not only completely failed to engage anything, but also became the proverbial broken arm to be fucked in the ass with.
mp_en_viaje: they have some history
as a lolcow really.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: They don't. Labour forgets that they are the local "Regime change in Iraq" party which was a great way to fuck themselves into nothing
as a "left" pantsuit party.
BingoBoingo: It was hard for me to think much about the time this one took. Was too busy reminding myself Parkinsons is a resting tremor
as the dude used a straight razor and comb instead of scissors.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Not a single action on his part suggested anything informed by theory. Strict application of method
as informed by practice.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-01-28 00:58:37 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other chicks can code moments, "I earned my degree and license in cosmetology and had a horrible career
as a hair dresser that I ended in 2015 due to social anxiety. I still love hair theory, and I even really enjoy working on people with whom I share a close relationship, but now I'm in pursuit of a new path."
BingoBoingo: And the haircut was the same ~10 bucks
as always. I suspect the problem is... the Cathars were purged by the Church for Church reasons when they should have been squashed by the crown for being tards.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Just got back from getting my hair cut by the fossil who owns the joint. Probably my best haircut ever. Intense experience
as the fellow with a resting parkisons tremor made copious use of the straight razor.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: The saddest part is that "un Prestamo de tus sueños" is exactly what they are marketing it
as.
BingoBoingo:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-12#1955099 << Well the 22nd amendment to the Consitution does give a 10 year total limit to presidenting, but... Insane common law jurisdiction where everything is made up
as they go while further burdened by the weight of all English history to boot. Not out of the realm of possibility impeachment could be taken
as nullifying his first term.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-12 05:49:54 mp_en_viaje: contrariwise, items 2 and 3 on that same list are quite needed ; 2 needn't be even usable
as such, its importance is in getting that tree going, even if not one line of a genesis survives it in the final press nevertheless the tree wouldn't have existed without ; 3 is definitely the sort of key element we've been sorely neglecting to date.
mp_en_viaje: contrariwise, items 2 and 3 on that same list are quite needed ; 2 needn't be even usable
as such, its importance is in getting that tree going, even if not one line of a genesis survives it in the final press nevertheless the tree wouldn't have existed without ; 3 is definitely the sort of key element we've been sorely neglecting to date.
mp_en_viaje: "I never bothered to review Love Liza because it's a shitty movie ; nevertheless shitty
as it was it'd have provided an anchor for today's reference. The reason I write down this note is precisely to underscore
as thickly
as humanly possible this most important point : that you are in no position to judge what's not worth doing. Because the future is uncertain. It would have been worth doing, all 20 minutes it'd have taken me, so
as to hav
mp_en_viaje: in general though, that's the overarching point, gotta separate usage and confidence
as a required ingredient of maturation.
mp_en_viaje: this is a naive point of view, of the same nature
as "all politicians are dubious so i don't vote" or "i've yet to meet a pure hearted maiden thus i have no truck with girls".
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 04:14:22 mp_en_viaje: it's not much
as it stands, but i do believe they've targetted exceptionally well, and might perhaps be able to execute also. maybe even surive to iterate. in any case i intend to help them, within reason.
dorion_road: python primarily comes up due to portage. Gales uses a shell script based package manager, so the point about bash will get further practical consideration
as that gets explored.
mp_en_viaje: no, python is a tool built so
as to permit the unready to write very bad code.
mp_en_viaje: they'd like to be ready, see. they just... aren't. and because people are perverse, this tends to manifest rather
as exam taking than actual improvement. they don't become any ready-er, they just become adept at pretending they are.
mp_en_viaje: now there are three groups : the ready, the willing unready, and the dumb unready. in more traditional terms the middle class is denoted
as organized stupidity.
mp_en_viaje: now, people
as a particular class of living things are perverse (this is called "intelligence" in pantsuit gospels), meaning they also have a recursion built in there.
mp_en_viaje: the job of gnoseology, the collected product of thought, is to enact partitions, and record them. some of these are more interesting than others,
as illustrated through experience ; an examined life is exactly this "following phenomena while aware of the partitions list"
mp_en_viaje: ever heard / seen someone say "bring it" ?
as in you know, the challenge, there's some kinda threat an' the response is... bring it
diana_coman: it is really because that's the start but then it gets discussed and the different values talked about and so on; so yes, I for one would very much prefer to have an article
as ref.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i thought the model was that those rated by my
as 9 are on the list of ratings deedbot looks at to establish l2
mp_en_viaje: for the other thing, the original reason the thing was set to auto-devoice in 30 minutes was to avoid the burden of hostility upon the devoicer, and the situation of voice inflation, where randos have it just
as good
as actual people, like thios
were athens or something.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 00:44:23 mp_en_viaje: it seems self-evident their plan
as it stands is missing the 4th and final ingredient of churchly success, "and this is the congregation", but that can be discovered in time
jfw: mp_en_viaje: thanks for those blog comments btw, looking forward to a proper read + catching up on the juicy looking log here in the coming days. I see dorion_road's and my venture was discussed just above; I'll give him the first word
as I believe he's more up to date here.
mp_en_viaje: and yes,
as it happens there DOES exist exactly one jurisdiction where they can move to, after being betrayed by all the toy pretend-states.
mp_en_viaje: it seems self-evident their plan
as it stands is missing the 4th and final ingredient of churchly success, "and this is the congregation", but that can be discovered in time
mp_en_viaje:
as the romanian expression goes, am ris si cu curu'.
mp_en_viaje: the nile also flooded every year, in a regular process that seemed to most everyone, certainly everyone in the ancient world, fundamental. yet it wasn't fundamental ; i twasn't even self-perpetuating.
as it turns out, the nile's stopped flooding altogether, it's been decades.
mp_en_viaje: "soo... well done on the 50mn exit. now, why are you at walmart with a credit card, in the same outfit
as the single mother over there with her govt-issued scrip ? you know the same social worker can cut your access that gives her the electronic meal ticket, yes ?"
mp_en_viaje: it's not much
as it stands, but i do believe they've targetted exceptionally well, and might perhaps be able to execute also. maybe even surive to iterate. in any case i intend to help them, within reason.
mp_en_viaje: yes, but nobody knows what the fuck you're either thinking or doing, because you don't express yourself neither consistently nor well. so we're stuck guessing. i'm trying to do
as good a job of it
as possible, but god fucking help me it's my least favourite activity.
mp_en_viaje: paintsuit world is
as fine a hobby
as any other hobby, and what the fuck's wrong with having hobbies now. but if you stop distinguishing between vocation and avocation, if the hobby takes over activity
as a sort of parasite, it's not ME "declaring" you an otaku. i'm like the coroner in that sad context, nobody died because the coroner pronounced them dead. at the time the coroner showed up, the deed was long done.
mp_en_viaje: that doesn't mean now i'll permit a whole "lost tech" fantasy fiction to erupt on fucking gentoo,
as fucking if the symbolics idiocy wasn't
ENOUGH of a waste of time / ready rug to sweep it under..
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 21:14:00 mircea_popescu: i dun think you're a lazy man. currently i think you grew up in a house with a lot of door slamming
as a rhetorical device, but that's really neither here nor there.
mp_en_viaje: and in general -- the absentee, the insufficient, the "otherwise busy", the butthurt, physically or mentally -- better pray they're in fact quite
as inconsequential
as they seem.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-09-29 19:35:27 mircea_popescu: but
as far
as the foundation is concerned -- if all it does (ALL IT DOES!!!) is stand up to tell me "oh, we can't follow the keccak because reasons" ima put an end to it in short order.
BingoBoingo: dorion_road: It seems to me like the growing dissatisfaction with Gentoo
as a thing to capture for terraforming is that Gentoo comes with a lot of Gentoo specific complexity. This complexity can be handy if you want to build a linux and that linux happens to fit in the space the Gentoo maintainers are running towards, but... that complexity appears to be an impediment to producing a standardized thing that just works without inflicting
mp_en_viaje: more stark statement of youthful impotence
as imanent ireelevancy besides this simple "oh, an older woman couldn't possibly ever kneel for you" i can't really imagine.
mp_en_viaje: and then, to add insult to injury, all sort of nobodies on a stick (trump and obama have this exact
whisk in common, that
as much
as trump was an outsider laughingstock for the business community, obama was an outsider laughingstock for the counterculti/commies -- they're literally the same object in a structuralist perspective) ended up arbitrarily named in a purely nominative ex
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, he's not entirely wrong, either. his diagnosis is correct in at least that juncture : that radical pantsuits never got anywhere, 1960 - 2020, through the exact same mechanism : just
as soon
as they had two sticks to rub together, they'd get baited into confrontation with the establishment, cuz they're such great heroes &
ilya muromets' their name.
dorion_road: I can't say I'm very enthused, but looking to see the upside and get through it
as productive
as I can be. Getting back to Panama will be a relief for sure.
mp_en_viaje: the "it" being the ~same it
as for say
the sad kids, self-hallucinated relevancy based on personal illiteracy, incuriosity &c americanskisms.
dorion_road: mp_en_viaje I was/am thinking of the bios software
as one of the standard parts. if the operator doesn't want to use it, doesn't have to. for anyone that does, it's there to be used.
dorion_road: I'd like to know your thoughts
as well. Not just about those, but, e.g. also
Gales Linux now that it has been released. Gales bootstraps with busybox, which I know you've been
working with.
mp_en_viaje: does actually expose pretty much the entire buboe. except it's not a pretty sight, for one thing, and moreover "civilised" life
as narrated by the pantsuit's simply not compatible with the observation.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-08 09:47:49 mp_en_viaje: "oh, we were worried china outspends us on $random-nonsense-we-made-up-specifically-so-
as-to-have-it-all-to-ourselves" "why were you worried about that ?" "so we have somtething to talk about" "ah, okay"
mp_en_viaje: a decaded and change later, after the queen (victoria!) was driven over water on the result of that madness, she liked it enough to declare it fundamentally constituent and relevant part of her kingdom (different from the realm she ruled, much like one's wife is different from the woman living in his house,
as a product of directed imagination, a projection of reason). he was knighted
as a side-effect of this.
mp_en_viaje: but yes, code literacy is
as novel a concept now
as it was in knuth's time,
as it was in 600 ad.
diana_coman: maybe; to my eye there is also the annoying layer of "oh, I'm too busy writing about MY stuff to read (
as in properly review and/or sign) other people's stuff.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-08#1954513 << this is not a problem peculiar to that particular corner, either. people who write, write. people who don't write, don't write. the two aren't really the same thing, you can give some rope so type-1 individuals finding themselves in a type-2 tradition renounce and extricate themselves. but that's about
as far
as it goes.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I don't know re that
as such; ie I don't mind it either way, whether \t or space, I don't see it
as a huge problem.
diana_coman: myeah; honestly, reviewing the whole V-stuff, the part that bugs me most turns around exactly this sort of thing: the core idea
as I see it was that "code is text" and therefore it should be discussed and read and undersigned and referenced and all that intertextuality and context and all; in practice there are the vtools providing some of the mechanics, there's a spread of discussions going every which way and otherwise there's rather ...
mp_en_viaje: i expect the discussion still stands now
as then : you can either do the sane thing or the dumb thing ; doing the sane thing's burdened by the anal child argument that indeed a lot of dumbasses have already been permitted to shit into the discussion
mp_en_viaje: however tabs can ONLY be described
as \t. a succession of spaces IS NOT a tab. only \t is a tab. a succession of spaces is a succession of spaces, even if "it looks the same" on some particular hw-sw combo
mp_en_viaje: forced-size tabs are stupid, because maybe i want the tab displayed
as eight, or maybe i want mine displayed
as two. it's not something that should be fixed at write-time, much like paragraph flow is to be decided when the paragrap
diana_coman:
as I ended up doing a long log-crawl on v-matters because
it's still bugging me, I found several discussions on spaces vs tabs but overall I can't tell what the current conclusion is on this: does anyone know?
mp_en_viaje: "oh, we were worried china outspends us on $random-nonsense-we-made-up-specifically-so-
as-to-have-it-all-to-ourselves" "why were you worried about that ?" "so we have somtething to talk about" "ah, okay"
BingoBoingo:
As in all of the platters from the few spinnign rust drives in the rack. After having been sanded they are soaking in a Tomato+ColaBlack sauce on the camp stove.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-05 07:45:04 mircea_popescu: it's only interesting because it's how "bake own hardware" eventually starts ; sure
as fuck can't have anything stalled on it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-06 13:04:11 dorion_road: a V-ified cooreboot will provide more leverage in increasing hardware coverage. if a patron wants to sponsor the owner (or anyone else from his WoT) to expand the hardware coverage, having it V-ified forms a good foundation
as I see it.
dorion_road: a V-ified cooreboot will provide more leverage in increasing hardware coverage. if a patron wants to sponsor the owner (or anyone else from his WoT) to expand the hardware coverage, having it V-ified forms a good foundation
as I see it.
dorion_road: If a
full process insurance business can be derived from tmsr.os in the longer term, I'd expect the bios to be included (assuming bios
as it's now referred is part of the end process).
dorion_road: I'm sure many people here are doing that
as well, these logs are where I first learned about it, afterall.
mircea_popescu: i must know, at the end of its run a) that it optimally used the bytespace by wringing out periodicity in the input ; b) that only the designated keys can ever get the input back out and c) that a specific set of occurences will not harm the contents. such
as "two consecutive lost bytes once ; AND six independent lost bytes". or w/e it is. set percentually or w/e.
mircea_popescu: so koch-gpg is, out of the box, worse than useless for archival : tar / zip / etc
as they exist on unix-likes are fucked in the head enough such that if there's a byte error, either the remainder of the archive or the bytes past that one in the list are lost ; but this can be mitigated at least by having multiple copies. gpg however, multiple copies are equally useless, if none make it intact the contents is lost, because
mircea_popescu: it's only interesting because it's how "bake own hardware" eventually starts ; sure
as fuck can't have anything stalled on it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-03 18:05:46 dorion_road:
as it turns out, it seems to my eye that it'd suit you well, given, e.g., the low level firmware work you're doing. do you want it ?
lobbes: well I'm glad you think that of sql; I've never known if I could count it
as a 'programming' language
mircea_popescu: in fairness, sql is
as much a programming language
as any of them. bash, too.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish
as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted
as in
http://trilema.com/2019/ deedbot: 2019/12/04 06:03:55 <lobbes> mircea_popescu: seeing
as these were fence post errors, I'm going to get some sleep and cut this again with a fresh head. I'll get that dump to you tomorrow (with just the fix to the months)
diana_coman: well, tbh I saw way worse from others ie not-packing-at-all, literally left
as an overflowing mess; it's still funny though, certainly.