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mod6: mod6_phexdigit_fix << This one I'd like to put in for sure,
as it seems, at least according to my own analysis that this is a legit bug (does anyone disagree with this analysis?). Just would need a simple regrind at this point. Can do this month
as well.
mod6: asciilifeform_whogaveblox << I'm more open to comments on this one too, I don't see a big issue with it being in the tree. I'm also using this one in a test environment (for quite some time now). Haven't seen any issues with it at this time. It would need a simple regrind. Can do it this month
as well.
jfw: This while pulling in not just a bignum lib
as dependency (gmp) but also arbitrary-precision float & complex math libs (mpfr, mpc)
mircea_popescu: in the simplest of terms : whoever you might be meeting, either is doing something or isn't doing anything. if they're not doing anything you absolutely have no use for them,
as the idiomatic expression -- there's no possible basis for any relationship, no cause to meet again,
get lost dumbo.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:51:58 mircea_popescu: so you know,
as far
as the life prospects, the future evolution, however you will name the sum-total potential of a person's existence, understanding how to command line is more important than meeting their father. it'll certaily do a lot for them, and it certainly CAN do way the fuck more for them.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:47:43 mircea_popescu: obviously to a large degree you'll have to support your people, so you'll be working with their things to begin transitioning to sane things
as a matter of necessity.
dorion: plus, banks and brokers have their balls in a regulatory vice which takes away a lot of the principal's agency. So our thinking was to approach the principals
as individuals and consult them personally, not "their" company.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:42:14 mircea_popescu: what will you say ? "sorry, we gales only" ?
as opposed to "yes dood, here, ten lines of awk. we'll go through what it does next we meet" ? hm ?
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:38:50 mircea_popescu: so my proposal is rather to look at the matter not
as much
as you're in the business of TEACHING LINUX (while getting together), but in the business of GETTING TOGETHER (while for instance teaching linux, or gales, or bitcoin, or whatever is needed)
spyked:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957569 <-- imo this gap between code and text is resolvable: code,
as written by human, is ~also~ a particular representation of an ast. so whatever tool is able to eat an ast (immediately brings to mind "the compiler",
as it stands) should also be able to print it back formatted according to user-defined rules.
billymg: mircea_popescu: also responded to your comment on the post just now, the regex matches content between both open and close delimiters so that's why only adding the / to the close was necessary. i.e. there can be
as many [[ in the code
as you want and it won't bother the matcher
mod6: That's fine too. I do actually want the server, so if bidding on it works, I'm fine with that
as well.
billymg: i see how "each line has its own class" is unclear and could read
as "has its own _unique_ class" -- should have said "each line has a class based on its type"
diana_coman: billymg: I don't get why is the code separated from the rest of the text
as such; for one thing the test article there for instance did not work well at all on zoom in/out in my firefox
billymg: hrm, that's strange. that was my only guess
as to what be causing the ghost horizontal scroll bar (those lines needed a special case handling with `word-wrap:break-word;` to properly wrap)
billymg: > because while the horiz scrollbar is still there for some reason, there's no need of it,
as the actual width matches the window width << this might be because the hashes at the top of the diff are not being broken in your browser
mircea_popescu: this is remedied in the new version, because while the horiz scrollbar is still there for some reason, there's no need of it,
as the actual width matches the window width, so there's no leeway to scroll left/right
mircea_popescu: wrt code however, mircea_popescu has no firm oppinion on line length, or what to do about it (apparently he also doesn't have a firm oppinion on discussing himself in the third person, which strikes the fourth person mp, that being the first person reading itself in the third person,
as a little odd).
mircea_popescu:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957545 << this is a misunderstanding. wrt code, mircea_popescu is firmly against spaces-
as-substitute-tabs, on the theory that duble vowels are stupid and triple-vowels pure linguistic breakdown. there's no fucking reason to keep clucking at the same button over and over like a maniac ; and besides there's semantic difference between the two, spaces-
as-tabs are just fucking
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-28 02:39:59 billymg: i think i lean towards displaying code exactly
as it is, even if this means some horizontal scrolling _within_ a pane, rather than machine-wrapped lines (which can be disastrous for legibility)
mircea_popescu: bvt, i did see that, but i took it
as a simple stop-gap non-answer. it's there serving a political purpose, i don't have cause to take offense for neglect or anything, which i don't ; but it's not ordinarily much of an answer,
as there's no proceeding on it.
billymg: i think i lean towards displaying code exactly
as it is, even if this means some horizontal scrolling _within_ a pane, rather than machine-wrapped lines (which can be disastrous for legibility)
billymg: i think the most involved was the one about styling. it's tricky because the ideal width for a column of text in an article is not the same
as the ideal width for a pane displaying code
mircea_popescu: there's a self-obvious reason socialism existed traditionally
as the political mode of
subsistence peasants, and then became an urban matter once industrialization produced of idle and useless vagrants in sufficient quantities.
mircea_popescu: so i really wouldn't be worried about any eventual extermination of socialism. if you don't wash you become filthy, and if you don't think you become a socialist. these'll survive, being
as they are the names for a lack. lacks are eternal.
mircea_popescu: in fact, i doubt if anything ~but~ socialism is even meaningful to small children, much like nothing but tit is meaningful to even smaller ones. by extension reproduction-
as-only-function females, the dedicated mothers, grandmothers etc with no other activities or preoccupations besides the production and early rearing of children are liable to revert to their mindset and worldview.
billymg: how much longer can socialism even survive in a post bitcoin world? is the idea to scam
as much
as possible before it goes away forever? the failed forkcoin looking exactly like the failed state
dorion: re overwhelming, to my eye the best thing you can do atm is make the work
as public
as possible so the people who want to help you can.
ave1:
as for the genesis, I have the first steps, but are a bit overwhelmed with the thing.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-17 12:40:02 ave1:
As to ownership, I can own gcc 4.9 and would like to work with trinque et. al. on this. The problem here is limited time, so my primary input can be information/communication at this point.
mircea_popescu: and the way this is then easiest handled (at least in part for legacy reasons) is
as an "object" which gets preloaded, options.hurr = "durr" and so on ?
mircea_popescu: in the (ideally few) cases this is not feasible, people tend to mark their comms
as such.
billymg: ah i see how that could read
as "add new 'options' 'feature'". in my head i meant it
as move from current: default_options -> db -> current_options -> code, to: options -> code
billymg:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957403 << and this is the one, in mp-wp, that currently includes code that actively writes options to db. i was proposing to remove any remnants of this completely and only leave what would essentially be some constants at the top of the file (though it sounds like even predefining some of these values at the top of the file is unnecessary and can be removed
as well
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-27 08:55:58 mircea_popescu:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957366 << how about your preference immediately becomes working on mp-wp
as opposed to falsely claiming to be working on mp-wp while in fact trying to stick random unrelated garbage in there under this guise, because at the rate you're currently going im just about ready to set the bozo bit on whatever it is you do altogether.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-27 08:36:22 mircea_popescu:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957358 << honestly, no. i think the "option" to "pick the special chars" was useful at the onset, when i was figuring out how the world should work, but double-parens is so well established by now, even etymologically! ("every time you go on a tanget, you have to decide -- is your paranthetical is simple or double?") that it needn't be misrepresented
as an optio
mircea_popescu: i walk out of shops / restaurants / whatever ALL the god damn time, for the simplest of reasons, such
as "took more than thirty seconds to come for orders".
mircea_popescu:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957366 << how about your preference immediately becomes working on mp-wp
as opposed to falsely claiming to be working on mp-wp while in fact trying to stick random unrelated garbage in there under this guise, because at the rate you're currently going im just about ready to set the bozo bit on whatever it is you do altogether.
mircea_popescu:
as things stand now, 1 exists (though the hash could stand improvement) but 2 doesn't and 3 is sorta-implemented.
mircea_popescu: the way mp-wp session handling should work is
as following :
mircea_popescu: this also means the code's a preliminary, mock-up.
as the user uses, the "options" become resolved into actual correct functioning, and the option-enabling portions get rewritten.
mircea_popescu:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957358 << honestly, no. i think the "option" to "pick the special chars" was useful at the onset, when i was figuring out how the world should work, but double-parens is so well established by now, even etymologically! ("every time you go on a tanget, you have to decide -- is your paranthetical is simple or double?") that it needn't be misrepresented
as an option anymore, a
mircea_popescu: so yeah, i'd very much prefer anyone doing anything for me treat a "suspension" for any term and for any reason
as === a lifetime ban of the alleged "provider"/scammer.
mircea_popescu: the natural counterbalance of a hallucinated right to "suspend" is the very real freedom to treat the hallucinator
as a common scammer, which is PRECISELY what they are.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-26 16:22:00 lobbes:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957332 << long story short I went to do a 'dry run' install of everything on the shinjiru server and uncovered a host of snags that I'm currently ironing out (such
as ports being blocked, them 'suspending' the service in error for a day, and my general derpage with basic sysadmin)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-24 12:59:24 diana_coman: jfw: Keksum's 3rd genesis
is now signed and mirrored;
as you've gathered already the previous comments on your article directly, I linked that and there's no need that I see for an additional article; also, you messed up something with your Keksum's article title now.
lobbes: I will keep you updated
as the ironing continues
lobbes:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957332 << long story short I went to do a 'dry run' install of everything on the shinjiru server and uncovered a host of snags that I'm currently ironing out (such
as ports being blocked, them 'suspending' the service in error for a day, and my general derpage with basic sysadmin)
hanbot_abroad: the 'old' French word << the word isn't 'old'
as in part of modern french, but just old. Old French is a language, like Old English; they're sufficiently different (in various aspects, from phonology to spelling to actual vocabulary) from their modern inheritors to warrant different classification. did they give you chaucer to read in school?
hanbot_abroad: " In the end, most of the changes I brainstormed regarding structure did not seem to benefit the content. " << inasmuch
as you didn't decide to use those structural changes you contemplated, they did in fact benefit the content --you judged they weren't right, for whatever reason. they're negative space, but just
as in a piece of art they're still *there*.
mircea_popescu:
as per which foregoing coversation, the issuance of the long-overdue qntra quarterly is delayed yet again. what can i do, apologies to the interested parties.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside what you say, which is
as fine
as any sayings ever were i'm sure, who you are (on the basis that is ever determined -- which is, WHAT YOU DO) is this dude who's lazily hitched his cart to what he perceives to be a moving beast of burden, and whatever, if we take it somewhere fine, and if not, i dunno... nobody could accuse you of being a lazy ineffectual fuck ?
BingoBoingo: Well, next month I'm inclined to try to meet up will all the folks advertising local Bitcoin trades online. Letting them know what the Republic is, etc. The number advertising themselves here has grown
as Argentina's shit itself out of being a place Venezuelans can do the remittance loop thing.
hanbot_abroad: meanwhile i'm on a multi-day search for a trilema piece that clearly delineated the male mode
as "being" and the female mode
as "doing"...the uselessness of these key terms makes the search a drag without some other anchor. anyone remember this/remember something else about it?
mircea_popescu: ave1, you know, uniquely among the lands tmsr actually has support systems for such problems. why not drop in say #trilema-hanbot try the working method,
as opposed to trying to self-invent methadone by yourself alone ?
mircea_popescu: sure, the expectation on the part of the naive patient that he may be healed might have to be disabused now and again ; sure, the expectation on the part of the naive doctor, that he may practice what he knows without getting killed by chtulhu for no comprehensible reason at arbitrary times should hold
as much
as it possibly can.
mircea_popescu: now, this baseline truth is psychologically painful to doctors, so there's two classes : the kind who go into research, and the kind who put diplomas on their walls. these might even overlap, but the point remains :
as far
as the people you can't help are concerned, you're not helping. there's no way out of this, and word magic, labes etc won't fix it.
mircea_popescu:
as time goes by, the first list grows (though the 2nd list doesn't shorten), and so while any cultivared man of means could be a doctor in 2000, only ~i and such can be de facto "general practitioners" today... wait, nothing's changed.
mircea_popescu: obviously, people are complicated enough such that at ANY point (meaning, in the times of hipocrates
as today) there's going to be a list of very easily remedied dysfunctions and a list of very unremediable dysfiunctions.
mircea_popescu: so you know,
as far
as the life prospects, the future evolution, however you will name the sum-total potential of a person's existence, understanding how to command line is more important than meeting their father. it'll certaily do a lot for them, and it certainly CAN do way the fuck more for them.
mircea_popescu: whole "work-years", entire "departments" could readily be replaced by you know, half hour's worth of sed ; they aren't because us corporatelandia mostly exists
as makework, to create the illusion for millions of ambitious derps that they're "doing something" lest they take to the streets and start throwing rocks. nevertheless, even if the cutting legs is systematically needed in socialism, to crate the sort of helpless vat
mircea_popescu: obviously to a large degree you'll have to support your people, so you'll be working with their things to begin transitioning to sane things
as a matter of necessity.
mircea_popescu: what will you say ? "sorry, we gales only" ?
as opposed to "yes dood, here, ten lines of awk. we'll go through what it does next we meet" ? hm ?
mircea_popescu: look at the expansion angle : if ten days after you've sat down, dude says, "um... so my whole business is fucked by this data conversion problem",
as they ALL FUCKING ARE, you must have lived under a rock somewhere if you believe "western world" "business" in its daily practice at the office is ANYTHING but trying to deal with data formats
mircea_popescu: so my proposal is rather to look at the matter not
as much
as you're in the business of TEACHING LINUX (while getting together), but in the business of GETTING TOGETHER (while for instance teaching linux, or gales, or bitcoin, or whatever is needed)
mircea_popescu: if instead of taking actual women to actual cages and stocks i joined the choir invisible, and "did" TWICE, whatever, ten thousand times "
as many", except you know, "not physically" to use an euphemism... woudl you be impressed with how much i've progressed ? would i be ten thiousand times better if instead of being real i collapsed into wholly imaginaey ?
mircea_popescu: but if you don't do that, "we don't know how to distinguish", "all abstractions are in principle just
as good
as any others" and so on.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 18:41:37 dorion: With that being said, physical presence limits us, both from clients we can work with and,
as we grow, instructors we can onboard, e.g.
spyked.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 18:39:58 dorion: To provide context, the main reason we started with this is because Gales
as an environment is pure text, so the command line must be used. For the most part, the people we're prospecting don't have command line experience.
dorion: Panama does have a more old school, meet in person culture, so we see face to face still
as a good option for building long-term relationships, e.g. makes going for a drink after class that much easier, but cutting the number in half rather than the full 25.
dorion: With that being said, physical presence limits us, both from clients we can work with and,
as we grow, instructors we can onboard, e.g.
spyked.
dorion: To provide context, the main reason we started with this is because Gales
as an environment is pure text, so the command line must be used. For the most part, the people we're prospecting don't have command line experience.
mod6: There was also the entire question of not putting it in,
as it was discussed that the wallet should be cleaved from the rest of the architecture itself -- and further work on wallet related things should wait.
billymg: mod6: been doing some testing with your privkey_tools patch and afaict everything's working
as it should. i applied it manually after pressing the trb stable tree
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-21 23:57:55 billymg: damn it feels good being in control of my time again. i spent the morning installing alf's dulap-gentoo on a lenovo E545 i picked up off ebay, plus some research into the trb setup i'll want for it. i then took a break in the afternoon to read the origin stories from jfw and dorion, both of which were inspiring/motivating (and i plan to continue with the background articles published recently on other blogs
as well
mircea_popescu:
http://archive.is/mEhtD << "Vet Check International" is a website whose stats are provided "
as a free service to all Scott Web Service web hosting customers", which also includes you know, everyone who isn't a customer. and,
as it turns out, most of the visitors check out... the STATS!!!
billymg: damn it feels good being in control of my time again. i spent the morning installing alf's dulap-gentoo on a lenovo E545 i picked up off ebay, plus some research into the trb setup i'll want for it. i then took a break in the afternoon to read the origin stories from jfw and dorion, both of which were inspiring/motivating (and i plan to continue with the background articles published recently on other blogs
as well