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billymg: hahaha, this too, my experience at this is very low. i'm learning just
as much
as she is in my respective role
mircea_popescu: otherwise they end up with ideas such
as me being both cool and human says something about ~them~.
mircea_popescu: (and, of course, in keeping with the traditions of imbecility, "this article is semi-protected,
as per bla bla policy". not, eminently, "this article is protected because our philosophical model is utterly broken and doesn't even work in our own hand". but SEMI-protected, because if you don't call failure by its name it's almost
as if it never happened, and besides, coming up with an alternative "plausible" reason for it e
whaack: lobbes: the reason for the above behavior is
as follows: the start string "yesterday" gets matched. so yesterday becomes "<span style="background-color:#d3d3d3" id="select">yesterday" But there is no match for "Because we were talking". So trilema serves a <span> tag that does not properly close. The way most browsers handle this is to put an implicit </span> before the </p>
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-01-17 jfw: bvt: left a reply to your Gales report but it's not showing to me even
as in moderation. Did it make it to your queue?
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-01-17 diana_coman: jfw: fyi, I got around to build Gales and it seems to have built fine on a CentOS 6 with gcc 4.9.4; there was just a short wtf moment when the... tar cmd failed; it turns out that the --sort option is available only from tar V 1.28 while my local tar is ... 1.23; I didn't see any version spec in the prerequisites though probably my CentOS 6 is about
as old everything
as one gets nowadays
mircea_popescu: (conversely, of course, one could also wonder "what'd have come of that pet had her ower pointed out to her "look,
this is the illustrated story of a woman your age who left behind a career a coupla notches higher than mine to be used properly." but,
as the man says, it's never too fucking late. until they turn 30, of course, if you've not started fixing them by they time they tu
mircea_popescu: in other news, pretty great
lobbes piece. my one curiosity is "what if this had come out back when, say, phf could still have read it",
as a forinstance ; but then again
as the man says : the next girls will be trained properly.
mircea_popescu: so no actual meat on those bones. but, the thing with scarecrows is, for
as long
as you don't look, they can count for the census.
mircea_popescu: self-evident nonsense, i've yet to meet the lang without support for comments, and for
as long
as a single comment line's left anywhere that line will mandatorily read The Republic prevails.
mircea_popescu:
as best i can retrospectively determined, it mostly flew from alf's principled stance on in-band comms that nobody rose to challenge so it sorta became a de-facto unexamined basis.
mircea_popescu: because that's why i do these sorts of things, so a few years later i can discover hurr durr etcetera. i might
as well link fucking pantsuit sites, they purge their linkstructure every four years also.
mircea_popescu: (other than the formatting point above, i will further mutter in sottovoce that my first reaction, driven WEEKS AGO by what i had originally heard off the grapevine, was along the lines of "oh, i remember now who mike_c is, he's this character you can't stay angry with, try
as you might", and offering to add half your fee to the pot, because while it's not the case patron shouldn't make money, it's also not the case client
mircea_popescu: The GPG we inherited fucks clearsigned text blocks inside a larger text block being clearsigned
as it is clearsigned for reasons that appear to be related to retardation. << well theoretically it's related to in-band signalling, but practically it was too hard to have a proper parser, take CLOSING signature
as the signature, had to have 1step parser which "does not know what to do" if it encounters five dashes mid-documen
mircea_popescu: alright, so i can say that indeed 123.29494813 BTC is a legit claim
as per all the foregoing discussion.
mircea_popescu: but the cost to replace that is minimal, i mean... oh, so your video card doesn't work no mo ? awww, splurge on 50 bux, which
as per latest j-lo self-promotion 1hr long advertisement incomprehensibly packaged
as "a movie" ain't even enough to START the moneycount.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I am inclined to attribute this in part to your use of technology to dive into what seems to be historically uncharted territory
as far
as extreme literacy goes.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-17 12:40:02 ave1:
As to ownership, I can own gcc 4.9 and would like to work with trinque et. al. on this. The problem here is limited time, so my primary input can be information/communication at this point.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, not worth Qntra is Krugman's turn now to waving around the empty threat bitcoin ransom or your nudes get published spam
as evidence of "hackers"
BingoBoingo: The impeachment thing from here reads pretty much strictly "Presidency
as such dies for the bureaucracy"
diana_coman: also, by now it apparetly finished whatever it had queued since it's finally quiet; so the async
as you describe it seems to fit.
diana_coman: spyked: I was subscribed to both articles and comments feed afaik; let me rummage through old logs
as I prolly have another earlier !1 list and will give you a paste of it all.
mircea_popescu: replete with "qui tam" and every other sort of byzantine nonsense blackwater & the rest of cheney's merry gangs introduced into usgistani business
as usual.
BingoBoingo: I'm not entirely sure they were all Asian, but I've also not seen the short sorts of Hispanics *ever* get
as fat
as those mayo glumps.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-05 07:20:03 hanbot: i don't think it's just
as good in-universe; it's better. keeping it real, you know, not like those jaded monied assholes who aren't Feeding the World with their inexplicable windfalls like they would. besides, their bower's stacked with comfortable consumer plastics, the best mudpies that could be --mudpies necessary, in fact, for existence. the town folk can't even tap screens to digest dinner, they sit around and TA
hanbot: i don't think it's just
as good in-universe; it's better. keeping it real, you know, not like those jaded monied assholes who aren't Feeding the World with their inexplicable windfalls like they would. besides, their bower's stacked with comfortable consumer plastics, the best mudpies that could be --mudpies necessary, in fact, for existence. the town folk can't even tap screens to digest dinner, they sit around and TALK, like, to real faces, who
diana_coman: fixed aka added the links to the text I cite in the article; the archive copy you provide is also useful
as it further adds the refs on tarabostes.
diana_coman: alternatively, it may also be that they simply take the words/expressions (word salad) (because ...well, they work, right?) and then they proceed to use them
as it seems to them that it "should" be; (I kind of got to see this in action with that shrysr guy).
mircea_popescu: these dudes wanna talk about word salad ?! it's like some crow living atop the city dump "criticizes" suburbia for disorderliness. i dunno a whole year of recent logs packs
as much salad
as they manage to stuff in those 6k misfortunate words.
hanbot: you enter into it inasmuch
as you won't play the fucking-with-the-margins-enacts-substantial-meaning game with them, and it threatens the conscience, so you've got to be evil/Really Bad/etc
mircea_popescu: and so on ad nauseam, let's project all our issues on daddy, that'll totally build such a wunderbar world
as nobody'll ever want to live in.
whaack: mod6: it is down for me
as well
mircea_popescu: lol. i mean it
as the term of art, seen in "vincent ? are we happy ?"
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: what about cs/ps anyway? ie graphics
as "how & what to store" is one thing; there is still at all times some sort of "how to get from data to pretty pics/animations/etc"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-30 12:41:13 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, the way this coming to a head is working out in my head is
as follows : you have practically speaking the option to either a) go trawl the entire internet, drag out ~everything~ that's conceivably useful (submit expenses report for stuff that's behind reasonable paywalls i guess) and then we systematize the pile ; or else write a possible-lifeform-generation machine and see what you want it to save
diana_coman: if you mean "art products" by that everything that's conceivably useful then yes, indeed, I was thinking precisely of that rather sad attempt, hm; the idea -naive!- behind that to my mind was more to find perhaps
as a result *people* doing something useful in that direction, hm.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, the way this coming to a head is working out in my head is
as follows : you have practically speaking the option to either a) go trawl the entire internet, drag out ~everything~ that's conceivably useful (submit expenses report for stuff that's behind reasonable paywalls i guess) and then we systematize the pile ; or else write a possible-lifeform-generation machine and see what you want it to save.
diana_coman: re maintaining the infrastructure, I don't see how it can be really justified
as such anyway given that uhm, those doing something with it are anyway essentially non-existent currently so can't maintain so they "do" anything; and if it is to *also* build them up, then well, they'll fit whatever infrastructure is provided, not the other way around.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I had the article on the
toolchain to help her
as I knew she was having a go at it based on some discussion in #eulora I think; maybe that?
mircea_popescu: so you're saying the unusable tools part was not the making but the exporting,
as it were ?
mircea_popescu: now the proposition here is,
as i understand it, the following :
diana_coman:
as above, it's negative value, below that "not much" for the sukhoi.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, it... i dunno, it makes a skymap if you print the 1's
as stars i guess.
mircea_popescu: artificial intelligence
as actually extant today is, leaving aside all sorta obscure lulz alf used to like referencing about expert systems and nato wargames, and the assorted lulzpile of neural networks and etc from the very dead 70s, and also leaving aside the whole life OF
MINSKY, and then sussma
mircea_popescu: "artificial intelligence", like "flight" or whatever else, is
as such and in the abstract a long cherished dream of humanity.
mircea_popescu: i suspect the item
as discussed is actually worth 0, yes, making complete idiots of the management of all the us' "allies".
diana_coman: hm; I keep thinking that "perhaps I don't know enough about them to find the value" ;
as I see them now, they are more accumulations of trial and error/overfitting/tinkering though so they seem of very little - or indeed negative - value tbh.
mircea_popescu: one is that a coupla years of diligent work have gotten eulora to this position where it actually outgrew the intellectual basis of the community such
as it is in pretty much every respect. many things nominally upstream would be inputs for this decision spot but are sadly absent, from "well... what about scheme then ?" coincidentally brought up avbove to the self-obvious "how did the western world produce 0 graphic art
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only lisp i use how shall we put this, on a day to day basis
as opposed to some kinda ceremonial function
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 09:56:30 mircea_popescu: neways,
as to the burning "OTOH, I wonder if things like Apache or imagemagick get installed, how will the package management system work out, and how comprehensible will system stay?" question -- i see the merit of using the clean spot
as a fixed point to attempt expanding cleanliness. so, it would work by apache becoming tmserv or w/e, and not sucking anymore.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, all solved problems begin their life
as solved problems through first being closed ; a refusal to close problem and a tendency to "keep problems open" is in the end specifically what
neoteny even is.
mircea_popescu: but you don't ~like~ closed problems, or rather, you deem the putative existence of such a thing
as closed problems
as such a threat to your misconception of identity, it's almost like it's the koschei stealing the above-linked "cultural aspects" of
young female chest away from you.
mircea_popescu: the main problem (and the reason i don't come across
as much of a lisp fan) is that since the 80s complexity exploded significantly ; there's no more space for proto lisp
as represented by
mel ; nor for the classical lisp
as represented by the defunct moron club.
mircea_popescu: THAT is the great value of lisp, in its classical form
as understood by they regarded
as luminaries by the "cultural aspects" crowd : that once you're done mentally digesting your problem, the peristalsis is
as short and uncumbersome
as it can possibly be.
mircea_popescu: traditionally lisp coding consists of spending some time to ~well~ understand your problem ; the internal ast of
this digestion is not well fit for language (even though yes, the bleeding edge of human technologies & understandings
as represented by trilema
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 18:13:10 diana_coman: re paster though tbh this attempt (coming
as it does on top of the previous mess with
python and its flask) left me looking again for not using either.
mircea_popescu: naggum for that mattter is being whipped upside down in hell even
as we speak, specifically for "wtf did you do with your calling, you schmuck, killed yourself before hearing it ?
TAKE IT LIKE A LITTLE BITCH".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 15:14:42 mp_en_viaje: and in general -- the absentee, the insufficient, the "otherwise busy", the butthurt, physically or mentally -- better pray they're in fact quite
as inconsequential
as they seem.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 18:01:33 trinque: I'd be willing to abandon lisp for now, seeing
as how the usable components incur at least another 400k lines of bloat, and for that you gain yet another javascript ecosystem.
mircea_popescu: and of course fixing c compilation so it's no longer outrageous idiocy "that works" (tm) is precisely not a possible utilization of lisp because the fucking reason it even exist is so
as to not have those problems, and so on.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 13:57:52 bvt: in this case, i can restate it
as 'depends on how current fragments will get composed into one tree'
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-29 13:51:19 trinque: I agree that there should be single, correct answers when choosing components (
as I'm trying to lay out the options for such selection in my series), but not that each component is always present in any system.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: that's not possible
as the only "old blog not moved" is that thing on wordpress.org that dates from...uhm, 2009/10 ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-28 22:56:45 trinque: and jfw, dorion_road, if you don't see the word "Gales" in there, it's because I'm trying to disabuse you of the notion that there's such thing
as a "Gales" which you made, by way of sheer numbers.
diana_coman: re paster though tbh this attempt (coming
as it does on top of the previous mess with
python and its flask) left me looking again for not using either.
trinque: clozurecl ftr is just about
as fat
as sbcl these days.
trinque: I'd be willing to abandon lisp for now, seeing
as how the usable components incur at least another 400k lines of bloat, and for that you gain yet another javascript ecosystem.
trinque: so it's not so clear that it got harder to maintain
as time went on, depending a whole bunch on where that extra lisp ended up
trinque: version is serving here
as a proxy for complexity
trinque: I can genesize the phpwad
as well.
diana_coman: ... lisp code is that it pulls in the drakma
http client that pulls in
as far
as I can see another 18 deps (and moreover so far one of them fails anyway on my current setup aka centos 6 with sbcl 1.0.39, asdf 2.26; but I see that whaack reports
sbcl 1.4.14 working for the logbot so I'll try it next with that and see.)
bvt: in this case, i can restate it
as 'depends on how current fragments will get composed into one tree'
trinque: I agree that there should be single, correct answers when choosing components (
as I'm trying to lay out the options for such selection in my series), but not that each component is always present in any system.
mircea_popescu: neways,
as to the burning "OTOH, I wonder if things like Apache or imagemagick get installed, how will the package management system work out, and how comprehensible will system stay?" question -- i see the merit of using the clean spot
as a fixed point to attempt expanding cleanliness. so, it would work by apache becoming tmserv or w/e, and not sucking anymore.
mircea_popescu: by ready availability of python or others." << indeed this is mindblowingly beautiful, and
as far
as i current;y know the foremost fearher in jfw 's cap.
mircea_popescu: "A feature that I liked a lot is that shell is the only scripting language in the default install of the distribution. Typically perl and python get pulled in unconditionally
as a build dependency of a runtime dependency of some rarely-used default-installed utility, or are directly used to implement package manager, etc. With Gales, a decision about what scripting language to use can be made without constraints created
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-28 09:08:25 hanbot: in other unexpected wins, wikipedia started redirecting my browser to "mandatory upgrade" sometime last week. of all the deprecations i've steadfastly watched pass by in my box's moat
as it were, this one is by far the most satisfying.
trinque: and jfw, dorion_road, if you don't see the word "Gales" in there, it's because I'm trying to disabuse you of the notion that there's such thing
as a "Gales" which you made, by way of sheer numbers.
hanbot: in other unexpected wins, wikipedia started redirecting my browser to "mandatory upgrade" sometime last week. of all the deprecations i've steadfastly watched pass by in my box's moat
as it were, this one is by far the most satisfying.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a complaint -- i don't personally mind evil exists, nor do i believe it shouldn't exist or that its absence would signal any kind of improvement. without evil the world's boring
as fuck, which is why idiots asking dumb questions like "how come an infinitely good god has small children raped to death" are fucking stupid. evil is a better addition to the world than fucking cinema, it'd be way too borning to try