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asciilifeform: goes with winning. folx blame e.g. lenin for 9000 things he similarly 'hadn't created'.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856404 -> ugh; to my mind a chair position is precisely not a "here's detailed list of tasks" position, it can't be ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well, let us look into this. so at the time caesar was "pushing republic off cliff", the republic had a serious problem, which caesar hadn't created (the marii had created, and the bleg senate had created).
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:35 mircea_popescu: but yes, personal slaves of sultan. and i can see why, and i thought thence all the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856322 style comments. what i can't see is why they'd make them boys. orphans or not, there's still http://trilema.com/2018/traditional-family-vs-the-harem-a-comparative-study/ that controls.
diana_coman: PeterL - was waiting on your patch for the 255 instead of 256 error on keccak but since it didn't come, I patched it http://ossasepia.com/2018/02/15/eucrypt-chapter-10-oaep-with-keccak-a-la-tmsr/comment-page-1/#comment-4254 ; ref http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856345 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but yes, personal slaves of sultan. and i can see why, and i thought thence all the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856322 style comments. what i can't see is why they'd make them boys. orphans or not, there's still http://trilema.com/2018/traditional-family-vs-the-harem-a-comparative-study/ that controls. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i also can't speak.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:07 mircea_popescu: the utility of such devices is very moderate indeed -- ALL it ever does is support the otherwise spurious pretense that slaves are not in fact slaves but somehow citizens. lincoln needed this to support his tenuous attempts on fucking over his country. i can't imagine what we'd need it for.
mircea_popescu: it'd be typically orcish to mistake b for some sort of REAL WORLD IMPORTANCE, too. but ... it isn't.
mircea_popescu: well, a) shuffler is never live (mostly, because the legal trappings around it require the shuffling be redone in some circumstances -- such as malfunction.) with b) orcs can't sync a gfx.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ahaha they can't pay, illinois style ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:59 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider eg that pizarro doesn't need to undertake the (significant, and unbounded) cost of writing "code of conduct" or "terms of service" or any of the other nonsense. things have changed. nude bitcoin is dangerous in the sense discussed in 2012, but bitcoin-as-currency-of-the-republic eminently usable today.
mircea_popescu: the utility of such devices is very moderate indeed -- ALL it ever does is support the otherwise spurious pretense that slaves are not in fact slaves but somehow citizens. lincoln needed this to support his tenuous attempts on fucking over his country. i can't imagine what we'd need it for. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is what the pantsuit do : call good bad and bad good. that's it. and if it doesn't stick, they don't care, they just repeat it. over a long enough interval, it'll end up sticking statistically, especially if left unopposed (and who has the resources to oppose sheer femidiocy ?).
asciilifeform: i'm sympathetic to the scandinavian view -- yes, world will perish in fire and ice, nothing is 4evah, etc. but doesn't excuse surrender.
asciilifeform: doesn't excuse anybody from trying and dying on the embrasures imho.
diana_coman: I don't see that related to one specific chair, I guess; i.e. I don't even see a problem if mod6 wants to continue testing the patches and maintaining the tree even if he is not trb chair (not that he has to continue, but neither does he have to pass the job on if he is not chair anymore)
diana_coman: I agree that there is plenty of work to be done on trb, sure; but I don't see the subtraction thing
diana_coman: I don't follow your reasoning there
asciilifeform: i suppose. simply can't picture yet , what might fit under this .
asciilifeform doesn't use any fancy redirection-to-sys-logger for trb log, and doesn't intend to ☟︎
asciilifeform: and yea it's http://btcbase.org/patches/asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks/tree/bitcoin/src/main.cpp#L1362 that trb (and for that matter heathens, but fuck'em) doesn't respond to sanely.
mircea_popescu: this wasn't a hostel. it literally was a migrant worker flophouse.
mircea_popescu: (nfi why they don't credit laplace -- other than protestant-ish ineptitude. presbyterians code!!!).
esthlos: trinque: wrt the keccak vtron, see http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YWfb5/?raw=true . I haven't managed to get asdf working with ccl, though the sbcl version builds and appears to work. Note that the thing will barf on non-keccak vpatches. Write-up will come in the next few days. I also have some log catch-up to do: will read the context and repond to your other question soon.
mircea_popescu: and even if they won't, what harm can come of sitting with charter an' logs.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, why isn't it spreading virii ?
hanbot: inasmuch as tbf clearly has a soul i'd think being true to that trumps the potential growth offered by a given gimmick. otherwise why isn't it for instance spreading virii?
mircea_popescu: the difference between gimmicks is that some work and some don't ; nobody calls the stanford gimmick by its name for the exact same reason "treason never prospers". but the whole "enlightenment" pantsuit gambit, from the original d'alembert to the present day, was nothing but a gimmick.
hanbot: fwiw i don't doubt tbf as-is lacks legendary promise. i can also see argument for pushing as hard as its resources allow. i wonder: does the republic actually give two shits about e.g. sports teams? how much of this "means to an end" sorta thing is acceptable? or is it outright looked for?
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit how. sponsor a sports team, for all i care. god knows the charter's written openly enough to not get in anyone's way who wants to do things.
hanbot: i mean, is it meant to be a chute-to-l1 or simply doesn't get enough lifeform contact?
mircea_popescu: if you don't know how to get to toilet, you have problems gizmos won't fix ; and if going anywhere else why the fuck are you by yourself.
asciilifeform: by my reckoning, if $client is porous, resetting it periodically won't help any moar than rebooting winblowz does; if not porous, then waste
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 21:22 mircea_popescu: "i didn't really pay for this book" is symmetrical with "amazon stole the item i bought out of my '''shelf'''", provided you use pantsuit definitions of the terms. since when the fuck is random usg asignee getting "paid" for shit some unrelated third party meanwhile deceased did ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 20:46 mircea_popescu: can't see the former as anything but "i stupidly gave my data away to some schmuckfarm which now owns me", but then again i don't solobike nor have any interest in navigating-by-map, either i know where i'm going or i'm exploring. but anyways, we don't have to copy each other.
asciilifeform: could have taken the 30 silvers and turned into esr in 1999, didn't.
Mocky: can-am's, trikes for old bikers who can't balance on two wheels anymore with bertha on the back
asciilifeform: phunphakt, it isn't even related to the infamous at&t monopoly, it is the thing formerly called 'cingular' in '90s, they simply purchased the trade name
asciilifeform: ( not esp. surprised that the lone surviver is at&t, the single worst bang-for-bux carrier in usa that i know of )
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 21:23 Mocky: at&t. they gave me the phone and I pay monthly. interest free loan basically
Mocky: it does break the comparison. but I still don't see it
mircea_popescu: at&t, like any other usg agency, is not a business in any sense. it is a conduit whereby the usg pays people the rent it owes for the continuance of its (otherwise baseless) pretense to existence.
Mocky: at&t. they gave me the phone and I pay monthly. interest free loan basically ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "i didn't really pay for this book" is symmetrical with "amazon stole the item i bought out of my '''shelf'''", provided you use pantsuit definitions of the terms. since when the fuck is random usg asignee getting "paid" for shit some unrelated third party meanwhile deceased did ? ☟︎
Mocky: re unlocking phone, hey if there was a reliable unlock procedure for my phone model I'd take it, but I've failed to find one. 'I don't really own it' is symmetrical with 'I haven't really paid for it'
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 15:19 Mocky: asciilifeform, diana_coman: my phone's not paid off so can't unlock. maybe those hundies that could pay it off will find a better use in the short term, so that's why cheap second phone. and yeah, roaming turned off.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856000 << i kinda don't follow the logic here ? i thought unlocking is a take-ownership-of-item-in-possession affair, what's the color of bits to do with anything ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: can't see the former as anything but "i stupidly gave my data away to some schmuckfarm which now owns me", but then again i don't solobike nor have any interest in navigating-by-map, either i know where i'm going or i'm exploring. but anyways, we don't have to copy each other. ☟︎
Mocky: and maps with turn by turn directions while on bike and can't handle a map...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855951 << - >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856046 turns out the lulz weren't that random at all. ☝︎☝︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I am thinking even if I only part with a pair every couple months, that would still be habitacion module power bill paid. Or if they don't sell I'll still have my gringo eyes protected.
mircea_popescu: Mocky why can't you drive in qa ?
BingoBoingo: I forgot to bring them when I left the habitacion module on the way to the feria. Didn't feel like turning back to retrieve them. 9 km later nursing a sun induced headache.
BingoBoingo: Don't forget the sack full of gossipd relays
Mocky: don't test me
mircea_popescu: it's a tempting misread, of course, but the fact that i spend the occasional hour interacting with my interfaces with random "social media" site dun do anything to me. it certainly can't be said "oh, mp is on reddit ; robots count".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855888 << i think the important cut is salary-or-theft (ie, are you being raped or being the rapist in the relationship). the mere act of graciously permitting the pantsuited morons to deposit their ~worthless paper bits into your drawers is not in itself anything. children've been doing this since time immemorial, arts-and-crafts'd mom a card for her bday, this doesn't make the woman any mo ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is that : ambitious moron with krysha forces open some community chest or other, discovers that it wasn't after all mp's glasses that did his reading for him by themselves.
Mocky: I don't know, repellent has always been worse for me than any insects. I guess you could call me an insect bite non-responder. Prolly wouldn't use even if I didn't have hard shell luggage
diana_coman: I don't see 149.56.19.79 in the list of advertised nodes
Mocky: asciilifeform, diana_coman: my phone's not paid off so can't unlock. maybe those hundies that could pay it off will find a better use in the short term, so that's why cheap second phone. and yeah, roaming turned off. ☟︎
asciilifeform: can't say it was a very dire loss tho.
diana_coman: really? I thought there was a site you were recommending precisely for "good ada code", wasn't there?
Mocky: I think I'm going to pick up a cheap unlocked phone as mine isn't unlocked
mircea_popescu: every hour you spend suing the government is an hour you don't spend burning down the police station.
mircea_popescu: and all the people that put in, a man-hour or a man-decade into his project (i don't mean the fucktards, i mean ~the actual people~) could have done something useful in that hour or decade.
mircea_popescu: if linus wasn't around to subvert early republican effort, it's not the case "republic wouldn't have ever existed" ; but it is the case republic would have been greater and better without his despicable ass. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you think if lincoln didn't show up to fuck up the us constitution under the guise of "black chicks code", the issue of black chicks and coding would have never been addressed or somehow resolved ?
mircea_popescu: what impedes them is not it, but everything-not-it, namely : themselves. their miserable orc nature. if it washes, let it wash, and if it doesn't wash, let them hang.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855821 << imo the only limiting factor in foundation finance atm is the twin perception that foundation doesn't need more money nor has anything useful to do with it if it had more money. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( and no i can't name 1. do ears of corn have names..?)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855820 << the only advantage is that ecology is largely self-minding. i didn't tell the power rangers morons to shoot themselves in the face. i told them not to ; and they did anyway. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this hasn't improved, since 2011, or since 2016. in fact, drastically agravated.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855817 << they coulkd if they would. they don't because they're not-credible proven-retards. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: people using your software that are the usual sort of idiots... you ain't got anything going there.
trinque: this isn't me gunning for a seed round for myself.
trinque: didn't say eat the seeds
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855812 << you can't help people against their will. there is no such thing as "powered text". all text is powerless, the power gotta be with people. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: yeah it certainly can't become the bank of china.
ben_vulpes: on the thread of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855797, upon meditation, tbf was willing to host kids' projects at various points. didn't, in the case of lobbes, because he didn't take funding. kids ever-declining cost next to tbfs kitty inclines me to continue considering these projects. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855799 << twasn't obvious it is substantially a wart. i mean, if we end up cutting off everything the pantsuit attempt or attempterd historically to steal the trappings of, we'd be left without words. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: mm, i didn't mean to suggest 'republic only' trb net. it is however a pretty sane client for the extant network, and perhaps there is value in gating access to such a gem from teh hoi polloi. what with trinque's impending hotwallet patches and his demonstration of their value with trb services, the gem will become only of more value.
asciilifeform: can't replace the thing with 'republic only' trbi , not without some yet-unfathomed breakthrough, or, idk, if mircea_popescu takes over brazil, or, whoknows, catastrophic chernobyl that fully demolishes the classical btc net
asciilifeform: to date i haven't conceived of how to make trb into a subscription service ( my 1 attempt at the problem was the 'wires' item ) but this should not discourage others
mod6: People contribute, and do things. It would be very nice to have more consistant help with testing and other things. It hasn't been too bad just doing it myself, but with Pizarro in the picture (esepcially when was acting manager), having to do it all was hard.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-29 23:40 mircea_popescu: nevermind the pissing off, that's not the issue. this foundation item, it got a nest egg from me, and some more donations from other people back in the day. it didn't manage to turn these into either a growing stream of more donations or a growing stream of activity.
mircea_popescu: besides, shit's gotta get a critical look now and again, can't be all happy roses permanently.
mircea_popescu: we won't die till sunday.
asciilifeform: cuz it wasn't asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: nevermind the pissing off, that's not the issue. this foundation item, it got a nest egg from me, and some more donations from other people back in the day. it didn't manage to turn these into either a growing stream of more donations or a growing stream of activity. ☟︎
mod6: I didn't mean to piss ya off with my comments above, Sir.
mircea_popescu: but as far as the foundation is concerned -- if all it does (ALL IT DOES!!!) is stand up to tell me "oh, we can't follow the keccak because reasons" ima put an end to it in short order. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i won't even say anything about any of that, seeing how http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-27#1830030 and so on. ☝︎
mod6: I certainly wasn't held back by no keccak. Who said that?
mod6: And I don't think I'm try to wreck anything by being methodical.
mod6: I'm not saying that we shouldn't move to keccak, just would ideally have a tool that supports it.
mircea_popescu: now that we're done with alf's wrecking of the naming convention, gotta deal with mod6 's wrecking of the historical flow ? keccak isn't some fucking optional package on top of mainline usg-provided sha.
BingoBoingo: To be clear this isn't a pdf merely filled out from the pdf reader. It is filled out and interacts(maybe interacted) with their backend system from pdf reader.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall how long it's been, but i've been happy enough emailess