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mircea_popescu: it's very true that i'd have never given a shit had nobody said something to me about it on my blog ; but it's just as true that ~the reason~ i took that stance was specifically that someone ~was going to~ say something to me on my blog, about that as about anything else worth the note, because that's what i built it as for fucks' sake.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the actual finding was july 22nd 2011 (as per authentic & historically accurate http://trilema.com/2013/noob-mp-or-how-it-all-began/#selection-1437.0-1437.47 ), which is to say THE NEXT DAY. no fucking half week.
mircea_popescu: these went nowhere because a) not directly related to something i was working in at the time and b) not nearly as well respected source in my eyes -- though perhaps the order's reversed. in any case, it was very much "guy i know raised a sorta-objection to the completeness of my research which had to be remedied", and if one thinks the bias in such a context is ever anything but "get rid of it" that one's very naive indeed.
mircea_popescu: this very much ~wasn't~ the first mention of bitcoin on trilema, there's earlier march http://trilema.com/2011/de-ce-trebuie-protejat-angajatul/#comment-43648 and april http://trilema.com/2011/guvernul-cu-rata-de-succes-33/#comment-47237 mentions by a fellow named gheorghe ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-14 18:34 mircea_popescu: it took me all of half week to find the bitcoin-otc in 2011, and this considering a) i hadn't been on irc in a decade ; b) i thought computers are idiotic and computer dweebs idiotic-er still for simply being involved with them ; c) was looking for sufficient cause to dismiss this bitcoin bullshit.
mircea_popescu: but, to put meat on http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-14#1825496 before cosmic rays fuck the wetware memory of it, the impetuus for c) was very much spyked, as per http://trilema.com/2011/economia-unui-joc-multiplayer-probleme/#comment-55648 ☝︎
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/06/14/if-not-one-thing-the-other/ << Bingo Blog - If Not One Thing The Other
BingoBoingo: In a civilizations that don't have taboos against ambition, they'd be cheering to win
BingoBoingo: First time they won was maybe a kilometer away from here though
BingoBoingo: And they've won several times... plural I have been told
BingoBoingo: Well, they have won. Their lack of ambiton though... Everyone is talking like making the QUARTER FINAL is the stretch goal they are cheering for...
BingoBoingo: The orks here have... the saudis, Russia, and Egypt in their group
hanbot fully expects the cr team to ask .rs and .br if there's anything they can do to help them kick their own asses
mircea_popescu: chicks in team colors going down the street and whatnot. banks falling over each other to sell world cup branded banknonsense
mircea_popescu: it'll be a wonder if they score one goal. but they're excited!!!
mircea_popescu: but in other lulz : these little orcs here, they fucking love soccer. love it. and it's the world cup, and their group is... serbia. and brazil.
mircea_popescu: or maybe the surrounding atmosphere also sunk
asciilifeform: i've nfi how they've managed to stretch out their pile of su-era 'white man built' goodies, into ~30yrs of derping. must've been one hell of tall pile.
asciilifeform: was the subj of thread, ukrs being given an undeservedly soft landing onto the inevitable spike pit at considerable expense , by ru et al
mircea_popescu: in other words, elderly ukrs got insufficient assfucking, i hope their childrens get sold to fight in africa. what fucking iphones.
mircea_popescu: whore lines are "hey, do you want me to tell you a joke ? if it's not fukky you can fun me for free" not fucking hilary clintonisms & naggingisms a la "let me tell you some shoulds"
mircea_popescu: whore GETS TO WORK. yes naked, yes on hands and knees, yes right nao.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-14#1825578 << fuck them and their lukewarm http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#selection-123.521-123.558 bullshit. ☝︎
asciilifeform: dumping ground market ( while they've got anything to spend ) for rubbish that even ru folx won't buy
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 19:30 asciilifeform: last i recall, they fitted 'general electric' fuel rods to the 1 remaining sov reactor, it is a pop waiting to happen
asciilifeform: they are also undergoing, since even prior to '14, a kind of 'reverse fire sale', with joys of the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1498362 kind ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( the ukrs are somewhat inadherent to even concept of secret, they make usg look light a tight operation )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: most of this, is no sort of seekrit, ftr
ben_vulpes: interesting stuff, ty asciilifeform
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 03:16 asciilifeform late evening, listening to elderly ukrs derp on shortwave re horror of their neet chillunz derping on ipnojes; where to read re antennae design; putin.
asciilifeform: the folx referred to in the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818497 thread, were actually discussing the matter ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( the time for ben_vulpes to go there, and maybe do some hunting, is prolly nao or never )
asciilifeform: the rocket nozzle etc. plants , from what i hear, are in full throttle 'termite hollowing' mode as we speak, being sawed apart and carted away by various foreigners for fire sale prices
asciilifeform: for a while they have passable chocolate (roshen corp, having privatized su-era confectionaries) but today even it is inedible, having finally gone full bore soy crapola
asciilifeform: ru remains by and large the ~only trading partner of the ukrs (~nobody else wants any of their shit even for free)
asciilifeform: ( until 2014-present round of ukrwank, there was not particularly large incentive to do said replacement , trade ~worked )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there's a great deal of 'inside wank' in re mechanics of urkdom; for instance, a number of sov-era factories, producing e.g. rocketry gear, were stranded on wrong side of the border on independence day; and it took a rather long time to complete (afaik, it's largely complete) the process of replacing their goodies with ru-local production
asciilifeform: observe that lolmart does not hand out food for 100% phree, either
asciilifeform: gotta at least try to recoup cost, neh
ben_vulpes: why the very expensive gazprom clause then?
asciilifeform: ( it can absorb, apparently, a coupla 100k runaway ukrs per yr, but not 'all of them at once' )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: chiefly that ru doesn't want a full blown syria on its border
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the ukrs get ~phree fuel, for 'reasons'
ben_vulpes: "While the rulings of the Stockholm court were not made public...Naftogaz managed to avoid Gazprom's major claim ... almost 60% of Ukraine's GDP", so is this "the poor ukranians can't actually even pay the penalty, so we're cancelling the clause"?
ben_vulpes: "the stockholm international arbitration court cancelled retroactively the take-or-pay clause forseen in the 2009 contract with Russia's Gazprom"
mircea_popescu: for some reason that was a most delicious unhappening & rehapenning target.
mircea_popescu: if one's into sads, one should look at what's left of anarchism, in the contemporary pantsuit retellings.
mircea_popescu: and yeah, do you realise this, i wasn't even wearing black shirts until some point past bitcoin.
asciilifeform can usually peg these 1 or 2 nodes away from the epicenter in the graph, from memory
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ah ok then.
mircea_popescu: what loose what glue trap ? you're either looking or you're not looking ; and if you're not looking a) age dun improve anything and b) god himself riding on a pogo stick can'd help you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, woman even said this somewhere, i dun recall where, possibly on one of her meanwhile disappeared blogs, that "i used to think my walls were white then you sat there and against your shirt they looked grey".
mircea_popescu: hanbot, ikr ? somehow this never occurs to the idiots.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: some folx are loose enuff in the glue trap that energetic particle can knock'em out of it
mircea_popescu: and to bring this to a very plain example, the reason ~natural~ slavegirl says http://trilema.com/2018/when-cherri-met-rae-rae-also-met-cherri/#selection-3537.0-3539.57 is because she correctly intuits that the whole basis is "i've never said no to you", ie, unbroken chain of obedience. (and the reason she's a natural is exactly that she intuits this sort of thing, and so on.)
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 01:55 cnomad: i'll get to it when i get to it
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824840 << why not save that shit for oh, iono, the DMV? do you tell the fucking IRS "i'll get to it when i get to it"? no, you stand in line/wait on hold for three hours, thrilled as fuck to say "urr, hurr, yes sir" at the endless tide of bullshit, then come here and practice what you should've said to them, to us? completely fucking misdirected. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: when we originally met, chet was more than twice my age. she got a divorce and moved to romania of all places. so no, it's not impossible. but then again, the chain of possibility is an ~unbroken~ thing, much like the chain of blocks or the chain of trust.
mircea_popescu: and so is dutch stuck with the academia. and so is boring-40yo stuck with "her family". and so on.
mircea_popescu: point is, when he was 2yo he didn't use his brain in the manner of people ; but in the manner of wolves. that window of brain plasticity meanwhile closed, and if he'll never be a very good wolf, he's certainly not getting to enroll to people university.
mircea_popescu: wolf-child, incapable of speech, is also not thereby necessarily "was retarded 2yo".
asciilifeform: ( dutch, for instance, signed up to shoot communists in vietnam. was this necessarily act of a defective 20yo ? )
a111: 2014-10-17 <undata> mircea_popescu: ty
asciilifeform: ( possibly unlike mircea_popescu , asciilifeform does not believe that dutch was necessarily a defective 20 y.o. )
asciilifeform: it's rather like asking hiroshima surviver to complete in olympiad
asciilifeform: lobbes: i suspect that mircea_popescu nails it, prolly unlikely that anybody will ever overcome the radiation damage from being 70 y.o. and collecting usg pensions
lobbes: Lucky for me, my Ti branches were easy to prune: I simply had to grow a shit-ton of Ts
lobbes: Hell, I came in and started reading logs in mid 2014. Took me damn near 2 years to grok what I was reading and finally produce something useful
asciilifeform: asciilifeform has lengthy personal history of traveling expensive, painful dead ends, and hence somewhat sympathetic to figures like dutch
asciilifeform: ( to complete the lulzpic earlier -- by the time asciilifeform figured out how to pump in candidate-headers and pump out solved nonce strictly via the intact jtag header , diff was already up in the sky )
asciilifeform: iirc trinque came in via ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: trinque: ( somewhat unsurprisingly, i found that they cut the tracks. bastards knew what they were doing. )
mircea_popescu: anyway, no shortage of examples, trinque came in, asked specific questions, got specific answers, blew his mind away, changed his nick.
asciilifeform: trinque: in trips down lulzmemorylane, asciilifeform blew a good % of 2011 on halfcocked attempt to get miner going on surplus-usg boards with xilinx fpgas (in varying conditions of mutilation) ☟︎
asciilifeform: nikki_ff_: do you know how to talk ?
asciilifeform: ~6mo from birth to useful proggy, is pretty great imho.
asciilifeform: i'd be content with just the link
asciilifeform: oh hey thx phf , shows the link nao
asciilifeform: trinque: sorta why i sometimes try and apply the excavator to other folx. but it to date always ended the same uninteresting way, and the most parsimonious hypothesis re why is afaik mircea_popescu's
trinque: take the example of esthlos recently, dood was being kinda hard to read, uncommunicative. I jabbed directly at forehead on that matter, and lovely vtron pops out the other side
asciilifeform: well i managed to escape finding mircea_popescu for >1yr ( and even then had to be dug up with excavator ) but possibly i went to wrong kindergarten..
mircea_popescu: i'm no genius, i just don't lie to myself.
mircea_popescu: what, is the proposition that i'm some kind of genius ?
mircea_popescu: it took me all of half week to find the bitcoin-otc in 2011, and this considering a) i hadn't been on irc in a decade ; b) i thought computers are idiotic and computer dweebs idiotic-er still for simply being involved with them ; c) was looking for sufficient cause to dismiss this bitcoin bullshit. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the other fucktard in the class was periodically whining his idiocy at me, if i recall.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing ~creative~ here, in the meaning of creative of "you gotta say 39834908503485093485 and you'll never manage this magic number by trying numbers".
asciilifeform: weren't as recently as yesterday, the thread re btc exchange rates, that we're a fairly small target in fairly large galaxy ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: upstack -- do i misunderstand the model, or is the idea 'troo unbonsaikittened mind , proceeding from cause, will find the republic on own engine power, guaranteed' ?
asciilifeform: 'trusts in allah but ties the camel'
mircea_popescu: what style is that ?
asciilifeform: trinque: d00d's a christian, as far as i can tell, possibly (or not , i am not equipped to discern) in the danielpbarron style
trinque: was just about to say, he's praying, or calling for mother, on his blog there.
mircea_popescu: that's what it is : he wants, and thereby i know he was raped as a child.
mircea_popescu: it is the natural state ; the idiocy is ~inculcated~, by idiot mothers principally, through ~sexual abuse of children~.
asciilifeform: this is much higher bar than mastering integrals and building radio.
mircea_popescu: hence the whole http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/ discussion and so on. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the only correct approach is "i couldn't give less of a shit about all of it and what's this do ?!"
mircea_popescu: no, he's lost soul because he wants to communicate. that upon so wanting he then proceeds to "sate" that want "as best can be done" is not even separable.
asciilifeform: chukcha shaman is not lost soul because he wants to communicate over 100km distance, he's a lost soul because he hasn't heard of hertz or maxwell's or at all touched the relevant material
mircea_popescu: it's quite another thing to wants ; and yes, he definitely wants, because if he didn't he'd just proceed from cause and would have been here begging his pardons upon the first time he read the logs, rather than fail to do so the 500th.