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trinque: this is correct; I've been fighting a war against upstream and reposessing items since the original build script. this process is close but not done.
mircea_popescu: trinque aha so basically the situation here is, 1. you did an ablated gentoo last year, which was more vanilla ; 2. meanwhile it was discovered no longer builds, because imperial shitstack can't be a foundation for anything but the cockroaches ; 3. since ave1 work meshes well with older asciilifeform work we've updated the cuntoo target for a full musl integration, and this will come but 4. prolly later this year ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 14:35 trinque: diana_coman: I have updated the script you last tried, such that it again works. What I have not completed is the v-tree which is to replace imperial portage.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828010 <- this; my understanding is that it would still give a musltronic system, right? ☝︎
asciilifeform: or is this still in the works.
asciilifeform: trinque: i thought you've successfully seceded from upstream gentoo (i.e. baked own ports tree mirror etc )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i understand there are exactly two variants : 1) waitloop on trinque to declare his item as ready for battlefield test 2) asciilifeform bakes an exact clone of existing s.mg gentoo ( really, dulap-iii's gentoo )
trinque: this build script was to have a gentoo which uses musl, and uses patched ebuilds from the libressl and musl overlays.
diana_coman: trinque, my understanding was that you can release something that can be installed currently (although not final version)?
mircea_popescu: i thought you had published something recently, like a week or so.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I published a build script that upstream subsequently trashed, abandoned gcc versions, and all the rest.
diana_coman: eh, ~anyone stuck in a similar situation would learn it quite as fast; and that "easily" means mum talking like crazy all the time, lol
trinque: asciilifeform: that's not happening, there's still plenty of work to be done.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought he had published the thing
mircea_popescu: for those that can't do this in software.
mircea_popescu: the role of the belt/whip with adults is exactly same -- to remove the false perception of alternative.
asciilifeform: it is however my current understanding that diana_coman wants a trinque cuntoo install. this means that trinque gotta give the signal and supply with what to install -- and ideally prior to going on his vacation.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman subjectively easily. for the obvious reason : because they perceive no alternative.
diana_coman: aha; (though I must say: next time anyone says kids learn languages "easily" I'll punch them on the spot)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if no answer from ben_vulpes in day or 2, i'ma have to ctrl-C that loop and take over reactor controls, and ask mod6 to make good on his offer to sell his spare ssd's, currently kept in the bilge, to pizarro, and then give the signal to BingoBoingo to install it in diana_coman's auxiliary box.
mircea_popescu: not bad! i wouldn't care whether he consciously understands what he's doing. that's not really how the brain works, at that age. he learned to speak without understanding what the fuck he was doing also.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman are these ics ? or ye olde resistors capacitors etc ?
mircea_popescu: 2. customer gives ~2 week early warning, and then the mark comes and goes, and customer doesn't have what he wanted.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mod6 appreciate the situation here : 1. customer walks in. this is a MAJOR item for a company that apparently lost its only candidate manager over the inability to organize a sales mechanism, whereby doesn't have to wait for customer to walk in.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu fwiw kid also got a basic set of electronic components and a board to stick them onto + booklet with ~100 basic circuits and he's been having a blast with it although I'd say he still has a way to go to fully grasp what he's doing
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo plz lemme know if you have the tracking info ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's nice, but what do we do ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's still conceivable we'll eventually give enough of a shit to perfect a chip lifting process.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc ben_vulpes's last gasp, prior to disappearing into his unfortunate sabbatical, was to ship disks.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 19:02 mircea_popescu: mod6 a) why not just sell it to pizarro and b) it's really no rush, end of the month's fine.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828397 -> ben_vulpes, mod6, BingoBoingo what's the status on this? ☝︎
asciilifeform: btw in addition to mircea_popescu's earlier observation, it aint a total loss also in that asciilifeform can bake a neutered replacement rom more or less immediately if the key is ever popped.
asciilifeform: sorta why asciilifeform sank 100litres of sweat into the armlappy thing.
mircea_popescu: so then, they'd better own computers.
asciilifeform: there may not be quite enuff chechens in natolandia for anyffing better than halfmeasure, atm
mircea_popescu: i have no problem with http://trilema.com/2016/an-immodest-proposal/ ; aftert all i came up with it. but i have a problem with halfway measures towards it.
asciilifeform: in fact, this sorta happened, recall the early crt tv and its xray killzone ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if they're online they'd better fucking own the machinery.
asciilifeform: ( picture a 'alt-history' where it came to be that 2/3 of population owned a particle accelerator (let's say, for sterilization of even moar outlandishly-gangrenous usa.beef than presently sold . ) picture the pestilential 'omfg i am eating what! isotope?!' complaints
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 100% of meatsacks on the internet should own comp.
mircea_popescu: invariably the retort comes as "sucks to be on the phone, huh", for which they are utterly unprepared. notwithstanding six-figure "education debt" in each to the last one.
mircea_popescu: you know that about 1/3 of responsens my bot gets come as "what ?" which generally gets ignored, and generally forms during the day in the more literate complaint of "i can't read the subject line", often with culprit-identification bolted on the side : "~IT~ cuts it off". what the fuyck is this "it" ?
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's pov, it is however ~too many~ meatsacks who own comp (or at least think they do) rather than too few
trinque: the sad creatures aren't being given anything to do, which would prompt the "ah shit, I don't even own a proper pair of underwear^W^W^Wcomputer"
mircea_popescu: the saeculum produces girls unqualified to be niggers.
mircea_popescu: do you know they literally lack the werewithal, as 20something yos, supposedly capable of employment and child rearing, to a) identify the problem ; b) identify the solution ; c) put boards into a mobo and hook it all up ?
mircea_popescu: are you aware the third that does and the two thirds that don't contain the EXACT SDAME PERCENT of seld-diagnosed smarts, intelligence etcetera ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: are you aware about 2/3 of the fuckage female population does not own a computer ?
asciilifeform: imho 'buy boards, make desktop' is not particularly educational in current-day, aside from the abstract teaching of 'yes, the parts are interchangeable, yes you can work a screwdriver' kindergarten curriculum
asciilifeform: in particular true for radio work, where the 'lumped' (see maxwell thread) approximation taught in uni, is actually a mere toy approximation of physical reality
mircea_popescu: not found anymore, though i suppose "buy computer parts make desktop" cvasi-acceptable substitute.
mircea_popescu: you recall those "build your own radio, or blinkelinghten lamp" things from ye olden days ?
asciilifeform: folx who learned from paper and simulators, tend to end up in a sad corner when time to actually build something.
mircea_popescu: in any case, power is an important aspect of de-kulakizing the empire.
mircea_popescu: there are things which ~must~ be learned, in order to permit learning in principle. nobody learns arithmetic because the world's desperate for more 9yo accountants.
asciilifeform: there is only so much that can be learned from paper.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "make own" is always a good idea ; i train new slavegirls in cooking even though i got more star-able cooks here than any restaurant ever afforded.
asciilifeform: pulsed tx means you can get away with not only small energy supply (e.g. konsoomer photovoltaic + capacitor) but thin, inexpensive aerial wires, smallish transistor in the amp ( vs the thumb-sized monsters seen in traditional radio design ), and so on.
asciilifeform: my gedanken-schematic contemplated an ~unattended~ relay. ( approx. briefcase-sized, not counting the aerial )
asciilifeform: it is extraordinarily difficult to get even rough triangulation for pulsed station, esp when there are ~several~ going. ( iirc we had the thread )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even kgb at its golden age more or less threw in the towel in face of pulsed pirate
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform imo this is not even the wrong way ; will not only significantly cheapen our end, but ~all of the enemy hardware will ahve to be replaced, at capital costs far exceeding its current capacities (projected to diminish in the future as they may be) ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the edison battery thread aha
mircea_popescu: anyway, you wouldn't use consumer "tech" for any serious purpose. make a god damned inverter, out of one of those solar power bs.
asciilifeform: ( when asciilifeform was running number for a -- so far, paper-only , gedankenexperiment -- shortwave gossipd station, realized that the traditional outlandish bulk of 1000+w shortwave transmitter, is unnecessary if you only care to transmit millisecond bursts a couple times per hr ; can have fairly compact and inexpensive item, not normally seen in 'heavy' pirate radio experience )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform where's the discussion re the dc and its Fe- batts ?
asciilifeform: ( btw this kind of thing has some interesting implications: iron that runs in pulse duty cycle can handle unspeakable wattage for so long as the pulse is short. consider typical example, photographer's xenon flash lamp, if you wanted same light in a sustained 100% cycle, you need a 10kg projector rather than 10g flash thingie. or targeting laser for tank, easily 50w , but pocket-sized. )
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 18:33 mircea_popescu: the numbers are worth the mention : if you get 500 old truck/high power car batteries, literally, and you put them in 4 lines (gets about 49 - 50V or so), you now have somewhere in the range of 500 * AT LEAST 50 Ah in your hands. that's 25 KWh for the more common measure.
mircea_popescu: anyway, they exist to foul up the world. fucking obviously "open source ups" is a basement full of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803817 as pluriously discussed in the logs ☝︎
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's personal history with sad iron, the alpha and omega of the weakness of konsoomer ups, is that it features no way to handle the devil in the details of plugging in gigantic array of battery ( they tend to have minimal or nonexistent inverter cooling, and melt down long before your bank of boat batteries or whichever, runs out )
asciilifeform: dafuq, one might naively ask, is the point, of such a thing.
asciilifeform: re 'surprised by wealth folx', asciilifeform was somewhat astonished to discover that esr's infamous 'open sores ups project' features not a 'make own heavy industrial ups to run for 3 days' but instead... clone of one of those laughably miniature things they sell at konsoomer kompooter shops, 'run for 3min so you can shitdown'
asciilifeform: speaking of, did mircea_popescu ever watch the ancient silent film of faust ?
mircea_popescu: goethe told it bette.
mircea_popescu: c) then it changes, as it always does ; and d) they try an' fix it.
mircea_popescu: first it kinda looks like a) it really is a film everyone wants to watch and b) they're in the main cast!!!
mircea_popescu: kinda how the film snaps for all these "fellow travellers" or w/e you'd call them, "herd of independent minds", "reasonable people with reservations", "skeptical but objective observer of own life", whatever socially-acceptable wrappers on narcissism.
mircea_popescu: then got butthurt that his perceived importance no longer matches his actual importance, and why should it be his fault. then got clever about it. whatever.
asciilifeform: i've nfi, but the 700+ coinz prolly helped neh
mircea_popescu: all variants, from sierra leone to canada, manage this, and always have.
asciilifeform: ( afaik the nato variants, seldom manage this )
mircea_popescu: precisely same as to the "surprised by wealth" moron. sitting somewhere in a peculiar hovel hoping people from the internet will come anf fix his ac.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly minor diff, but the occasional orc oligarch does manage to move some dough offshore and live kakobrekla-style in some zimbabwestan island for yrs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. the exact same "has happened" to her as to this other one.
mircea_popescu: zero difference between russian product of the socialist state pretending to wealth and mark-leah cuban-goodman whatever.
mircea_popescu: EXACTLY mirroring the undemocratic-socialism creation of "bussinessmen" through "corruption" and "stealing from the government" -- which is to say EXACTLY the same process run by EXACTLY the same people the exact same way.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-14 01:43 mircea_popescu: this theory that redditards have like... different personalities. what do you people do in the intimacy of your own house, name goldfish ?
mircea_popescu: very much in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-14#795515 : NONE, and i mean it : not a single FUCKING ONE of these "government-sponsored oligarchs" have a penny to their name. every single one "powerful" of the democracy-socialism, be they a senator, a general, a "famous person", a "journalist", WHATHEVER they may be, made out, at all. not like bandits, not like anythings, they're as poor as church mice. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: oh hah whatever happened, incidentally, to leah #xxxxx.. ?
a111: Logged on 2015-03-10 01:54 mircea_popescu: goes with my "Remember the inept newsweek goon, Leah McGrath Goodman ? The chick with the mortgage she can't pay on her own ? Like that other chick, like each and every other chick in this quagmire of chickdom ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 17:15 zx2c4: mircea_popescu: oh. so. "the world doesnt care about the cool hackers on the internet, but only the assholes with prestigious positions." this has been a widely known complaint for a long time
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo some "important" "success story" etcetera from the swamp. because memory hole in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809349 an' http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-10#1047258 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in trilema oldies, http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/
asciilifeform: 'A friend, learning C, asked me for help in understand the results of some such expression as a = (b++) + ((b++) + (b++)) It emerged that one could run this on different compilers, even on the same machine, and get about as many results as one tried different compilers...' etc
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom, in re the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-30#1830910 lulzfest, https://archive.fo/0AQo0 >> 'what happens when a bunch of people without even first year maths try to write a specification without understanding how to define representations. Technically the representation model is entirely non-normative because it's logically circular.' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-03 09:51 spyked: anyways, I am working on putting the ssh keys in the proper format and preparing the full report, there's some extra lulz to be extracted from this experience.
asciilifeform: lol i actually somehow missed http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-03#1831514 . hey spyked , lemme know when these are ready to eat, they will go in same day. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-05 05:17 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when's the ffa restart btw ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-05#1831734 << launches today ! ( making a few edits atm ) ☝︎☟︎