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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you wouldn't want one if you found one . they're the orig 'you must crapple to upload files' item.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's other pt, tho, i gotta entirely agree with -- the item is a stupidity summer

a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 17:15 mircea_popescu: i never perceived him as anything other than or besides https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM-2030 character.

a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 17:09 asciilifeform: as i understand various folx use gnarly custom apache ( iirc mircea_popescu definitely ) and so it'll have to be massaged also

asciilifeform: diana_coman: what does it do ?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato. tho i did find that the arm build won't build a x86 gnat ( still afaik mystery )

asciilifeform: http://brainstones.narod.ru/collection/hp_pa_7300lc_1fe4_0002.jpg << to round off thread, better shot, of both sides of 7300, quite bolixesque physical package.

asciilifeform: http://www.cpushack.com/chippics/HP/HP1SC6_B.html << another instance.

asciilifeform: as i understand various folx use gnarly custom apache ( iirc mircea_popescu definitely ) and so it'll have to be massaged also ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 05:44 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can you believe you've lived to be doing the xraying to the bolix ?

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 20:10 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899484 << i heartily recommend http://trilema.com/2019/trilema-images-no-longer-showing/

a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 15:50 mircea_popescu: some time to look at things and consider matters will be needed ; but i specifically want to hear something from asciilifeform ave1 bvt diana_coman phf spyked trinque

a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 16:19 diana_coman: to my mind option b has the benefit that it concentrates the effort in the right direction at least

bvt: mircea_popescu: i guess the message did not parse correctly. i'm not proposing c the programming language; i meant something similar to "option c" from the list of possibilities you outlined in thread http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 01:26 mircea_popescu: bvt certainly

a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 16:07 mircea_popescu: c. ada-?-musl-static is the standard, either zcx or sjlj is acceptable (mostly based on what threading philosophy one embraces), with an obvious preference for zcx if one doesn't thread.

a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 15:49 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it already worx , afaik, on musl, ave1's gnat shits out strictly musl-static linkage.

mircea_popescu: trinque diana_coman similarily fwiu.

asciilifeform: as for server, iirc it's a pure diana_coman matter , and still in the worx

asciilifeform: trinque: i put it in its coffin in 2015, with 'rotor' , and wasn't even aware that there was contemplation of keeping it alive until mircea_popescu asked last mo

a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 02:10 mircea_popescu: and speaking of that old discussion : let's remind the folk on http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 that there's relatively little point in being part of the lordship if one can't be arsed to at least say they don't wish to comment on some serious problem we run into.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re adacorpse's standard & compiler, the marvel aint that it's broken in places, but that it was built at all, and is even largely usable

a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 18:04 asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix_ivory_pinside.jpg

mircea_popescu: is the hope that http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/xray/ivory/iron_ivory_die_large.jpg item is not merely noise ?

a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 18:26 asciilifeform: perma-mirrored at http://www.loper-os.org/pub/amberglint_bolix_1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/amberglint_bolix_2.jpg , ty

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/amberglint_bolix_1.jpg ( via http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876538 ) for comparison. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 01:58 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-28#1899802 << this ties directly into above. it's not a problem of "these engineers did not do enough". it's not an engineering problem at all. it's 100% political, "these sorry schmucks passed themselves off for an authority they could never possibly be". this'll never wash, and in particular indigence is the worst possible plea they could bring. if they ALSO are poor then THEREFORE even LESS q

a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 20:47 diana_coman: bvt, my understanding is that zcx said "this case is too complicated to even try to handle and why do you need it anyway, terrorist!"

a111: Logged on 2015-08-19 00:18 asciilifeform: cabbie: 'this ford is a piece of shit. stalled again.' mircea_popescu: 'i have a solution!' cabbie: 'oh???111' mircea_popescu: 'here, have this broomstick.' cabbie: 'how do i drive customers on that, feed my family' mircea_popescu: 'you misunderstand, my good man. you stuff it in your arse.' cabbie: 'and... how does this feed by family?' mircea_popescu: 'no, you sit there with it in.'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's obv. vandalistic, what they do. but i'm pretty curious what you'd have'em do instead? maintain the standard on nights and weekends while writing java for microshit ?

a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 20:35 diana_coman: why exactly interesting?

a111: Logged on 2019-02-23 05:28 mircea_popescu: in any case, the ownership of this entire thing is clearly established, and entirely nobody the fuck else outside of properly authorized republican hands may fucking touch it.

bvt: asciilifeform: no, did not. my attempt was to use polling pragma, but mircea_popescu made it clear that it's not an option at all.

bvt: diana_coman: it seems so, the code for ignoring aborts on zcx was added in 2003 and not touched since that time, so i agree with "broken by design"

bvt: zcx is a recent item, https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/osdi2000/wiess2000/full_papers/dinechin/dinechin_html/index.html

asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'compliance tools' aha. but , if not with the standard... then with what.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: only from entomological pov. i.e. do they break the opensores one deliberately , to upsell to the payware? or both equally braindamaged.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: another interesting q is -- whether the co

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect this aint the last time we find that gnat breaks standard

a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 17:51 mircea_popescu: in any case, there's no basis for a standard-breaking runtime here. "oh, it gains some speed in corner case", gimme a break, go implement the standard.

asciilifeform ~still~ frustratingly wedged with mircea_popescu's tube puzzle , turns out the 'S' constant for 35kV aint published anywhere, incl. the tube vendor ! and no info published re how to determine it from principles, seems like it gotta be measured by hand.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unix imho is pretty typical piece of tard 'sleight of hand', where offers illusion that 'you can have 9000 continuous threads'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've had occasion to move the stack limit ( when tested ffa with massive fz widths, recall , all allocations are on stack ) but not otherwise

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect that diana_coman is the 1st to actually measure, since 1990s (if indeed anyone bothered then)

asciilifeform: would look rather like the https://media.rs-online.com/t_large/F8268825-01.jpg heathen board

a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 15:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899563 << her racked box has vga ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're commercially available , for cost of ~bmw , but i dun want one here lol

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun have a 10MeV source ( do you ?? ) . tho i suppose one could float the thing on balloon and hope to get lucky with cosmic ray..

asciilifeform went to compute mircea_popescu's q, 'just how much did it eat', apparently it's a bitch : absorption constant varies by chip, and in heavy industry folx mostly gave up , they stick dosimetric film underneath the board. i'ma get an upper bound tho, it's important q when we do the bitflip thing.

a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 06:37 mircea_popescu: i think it's unconscionable to be flying this blind/by seat of pants. speaking of that "gilding the lilly", did you even calculate the remanent activity by component for that half hour of exposure ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on my planet, if you want remanence, you gotta bombard with neutrons, not photons...

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they dun move tho, what 'moves' is the free radical

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at long wavelength, all but epsilon ends up going to cook the chip

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is certainly how i started reading him (initially had good stuff in 'small picture' re su/usa parallel)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from the lit, seems like it's an iffy way to take off layers, tends to induce thermal cracks

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: will prolly end up with cnc mill

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as of yet -- nuffin

a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 19:28 mircea_popescu: you put in a violet source, take a pic. next you put in a green source, take a pic. next, yellow and red.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did not know. but it's a fairly basic observation, and i expect it occurs regularly to mircea_popescu & other thinking folx when seriously thinking re 'wai pc sux'

a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 15:35 mircea_popescu: the only way to have sane republic is precisely the http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/ which specifically here means, NO CALLS BACK UP THE TREE.

hanbot: mircea_popescu y'mean http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895424 ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's what bellard was doing instead of tcc.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'win nt in untaken branches' aha

mod6: mircea_popescu: ty!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun expect you'll want to eat the whole article, but it sums to quite a bag of lulz : can run entire proggy in the 'speculated' parallel universe, in such a way that it dun logically exist on e.g. by-the-book emulator, but only on post-2009 shitcpu

asciilifeform: guten tag mircea_popescu !

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 18:17 diana_coman: I have on my conveyor first to complete and publish the full set of data zcx vs sjlj; after that I guess I'll publish the notes re building ave1's gnat too

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 18:15 diana_coman: note that you'll get simply gnat with sjlj, no option to switch between zcx and sjlj i.e. --rts won't work

a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 05:18 mircea_popescu: long story short, soviet kids integrated into youth culture faster than soviet state integrated "soviet world" ; the result was the failure of the soviet state.

a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 09:44 ave1: diana_coman, in system-linux-*.ads (in gcc/ada directory) you'll find the line: ZCX_By_Default : constant Boolean := False;

a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 17:04 asciilifeform: diana_coman: are we sawing'em open because it dun actually abort, or simply to compare with old gnat's sjlj , tho ?

asciilifeform: ( i.e. was prior to the thread where diana_coman rebuilt ave1's )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc what i cut was built with old-stype gnat16 neh ?

lobbesbot: diana_coman: Sent 6 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> were you able to build a working ave1gnat with sjljism ? or is that still an open puzzler?

asciilifeform: !Q later tell diana_coman were you able to build a working ave1gnat with sjljism ? or is that still an open puzzler?

deedbot: spyked rated diana_coman 4 << eulora, ada and others; showed me around .ro.petroltown

mod6: mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kr8CA/?raw=true

a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 02:20 mircea_popescu: it was utterly the case of eg ro revolution. none of the people there wanted "freedom". they were literally pissed off they can't drive over to austrian border and load up the car at the w/e discount shop.

asciilifeform: when 'civilization' swallows island, they'll be watchin' 'netflix' like mircea_popescu's argentines.

feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/02/a-bridge-to-cuntoo-for-the-lenovo-x61-x86_64/ << lobbesblog -- A bridge to Cuntoo: for the Lenovo x61 (x86_64)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that makes sense.

a111: Logged on 2018-07-06 18:46 mircea_popescu: (ro used the prefab construction process -- first, send mining equipment, flatten land ; then, put in rail ; then, roll out a rail crane, and roll prefab on cars up to it ; then move the derivation

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fg dun exactly require cuntoo tho. runs a++ with, e.g., my msdos box. ( via 'max232' ttl to rs232 transformer )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if asciilifeform weren't sitting under a pile of unfinisheds -- then conceivably yes

asciilifeform: the lulztwist is that here you cannot get the tall ceiling of that коммуналка even with 5 mircea_popescu-s worth of moola

asciilifeform: and mostly fulla yes, mircea_popescu's chix

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these -- yes the 'fyootoor', in last decade they tore down good % of the town around here and built honest sovok-style communal-by-design flats

a111: Logged on 2019-02-19 04:42 BingoBoingo: Also tonight I saw the good bum mentioned http://bingology.net/2018/12/24/preparations-for-the-second-navidad-in-uruguay/#footnote_1_2160

asciilifeform: iirc gabriel_laddel was living in sumthing like this shortly before he finally sank

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what difference does it make ? if you're rich, get 6x4x2 or w/e, not like you can't specify arrangement. might delay you a day. whopee. << Well trying to figure out if the Port or Puertito is a more appropriate place arrive.

a111: Logged on 2019-02-24 06:42 mircea_popescu: witness how instagram is chock full of a bunch of pretentious pictures of foods/travels/whatever that the putative "authors" ~aspire~ to.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a massive 'artistic' sculpture consisting of coupla dozen containers somewhere on the road to washington from here. they're plentiful, and folx in 'flyover' usa do sometimes live in'em ( see endless 'how i poured cement' http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-24#1899021 -derpery on 'youtube' etc. ) ☝︎

BingoBoingo: I recall mircea_popescu had a story about folks trying to build stone house in the US

asciilifeform: not limited to 'ugly' ersatz housing, either. recall the mircea_popescu thread about some ro fella who thought he could get away with building a stone euro-style house in urban usa, where the locals could see it

asciilifeform: ( see mircea_popescu's jefferson thread, etc )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~entirely afaik