asciilifeform: *golang

asciilifeform: goland -- stinks.

asciilifeform: if it stinks of sv -- to the furnace with it.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in practice nobody needs to keep exhaustive list, the nose suffices

asciilifeform: it gets a dedicated physical console here, and almost every week i gotta restart it by hand, see wtf , why is db gummed up etc

asciilifeform: it is the most laboriously dysfunctional proggy i had ever written, it is my albatross

asciilifeform: and quite a misery.

asciilifeform: the www face of it is.

asciilifeform: i.e. introduction of genderfuckery crapolade into tmsr infrastructure

asciilifeform: but camel's noses

asciilifeform: it ain't about crud languages

asciilifeform: or would alternatively consider adjusting wot.

asciilifeform: would consider java also ? how about nodejs ?

asciilifeform: phf: why would you even. what's next, building the microshit F# one ?

asciilifeform: lolwat

asciilifeform: * sageprobes has quit (Client Quit) << aww

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: presumably like discarded mattress in a rubbish heap

asciilifeform: happy 2015phorqday folx

asciilifeform bbl -- meat.

asciilifeform: phf: i did not say 'shame' lel

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i admit , i half-expected to have mircea_popescu pull the noncycling proof out of his hat, 'aha, someone finally thought to ask..'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha

asciilifeform: phf: i can see argument for 100% unoptimized 'potato'. but if yer gonna optimize, may as well do it properly neh

asciilifeform: oh ffs BingoBoingo , 'bitcoin magazine' ?!

asciilifeform: how else

asciilifeform: well yes

asciilifeform: *deterministic primality test

asciilifeform: ( buncha d00dz published a polynomial time primality test in early 2000s. but try and use it. )

asciilifeform: recall the 'primes is in p' thread

asciilifeform: tru!!

asciilifeform: in terms of 'won't terminate before machine crumbles to dust'

asciilifeform: not necessarily cycle tho. if i can construct a 'for (i=0; i<maxint; i++) {}' then just as good

asciilifeform: how else.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well yes

asciilifeform: 'or if stalin did it and not brit crown'

asciilifeform: lolk

asciilifeform: that it terminates

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja prove ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: picture 'i'd luvvv to verify this tx, but gotta buy some ram, and for 3rd time this week'

asciilifeform: the 'potentially infinite mem' and 'potentially not terminates' is the boojum, not exotic bit ops

asciilifeform: how's that

asciilifeform: phf: potato?

asciilifeform: ( and currently suspect that you can construct one where it doesn't ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: unrelatedly, i still have not thought of a proof that mphash terminates on all inputs.

asciilifeform: ( he had an eternal and bitter feud with the author )

asciilifeform: btw this proggy is nostalgiatronic in that i nao return in my head to ye olde naggumwank over 'if*'

asciilifeform: = will do...

asciilifeform: dun need the <= phf

asciilifeform: neato

asciilifeform: phf: hm, 'woods' turns out was in de ?

asciilifeform: aaha

asciilifeform: reminds me of my 'nock' compiler

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: phf: what does your rewind do if pos is 0 ?

asciilifeform: other hint -- stop doing mem-access-per-bitflip omfg

asciilifeform: one hint -- look at 'screw' as a modular congruence ☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: but for some reason nobody said anything yet

asciilifeform: phf: there's a couple of order-of-magnitude imho obvious optimizations, but i dun wanna ruin the fun

asciilifeform: if it worked ( rather than tried to redefine 'work' ) ..

asciilifeform: now if cmucl actually worked, rather than compiling to crasholade...

asciilifeform: lol it's about 100msec on decent ( fpga ) iron!111

asciilifeform: supposing we're using a classical centralized market, and not blockchain etc

asciilifeform: but on earth, why should trade not return a hard 'went' or 'not-went' in 100msec or so ?

asciilifeform: this'd make more sense if trading still happened on donkeys; or if earth-mars, and farthest approach, and gotta wait 20 min each way

asciilifeform: lol doublespend of banana

asciilifeform: why should trades ever get unwound

asciilifeform: i'm moar curious re what 'good reason' even looks like

asciilifeform: how come he got unwound ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mpex afaik never reverted trades either ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( http://ingeb.org/Lieder/werhatau.html << lyrics )

asciilifeform: and hilarious

asciilifeform: ( re fredericus et al : i had nfi how many of these d00d had !! e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Nwsqy6v_Q is new to asciilifeform )

asciilifeform: i did wonder, why not something better.

asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EhMmJhm4K8 << oblig. ( for de n00bz: by same subtitlist who did 'fredericus' )

asciilifeform: ( per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-20#1557348 ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: phf: 7!1111

asciilifeform: quite likely no presently sitting congresscritter would object to 4, 8, 44, 88 yrs of him.

asciilifeform: iirc pence is a perfectly compliant r-flavoured pantsuit

asciilifeform: 'don't play with a deck you haven't glued yourself'

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect that the number of rules by which 'pantsuit' crowd continues to play, such that they can lose, will grow smaller.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why ?

asciilifeform: prohibited pr0n is cheaper. ☟︎

asciilifeform: cocaine in toilet tanks, apparently, was a bit arduous, and called for at least a certain qty of actual cocaine to be tied up, if temporarily, in evidence lockers

asciilifeform: meanwhile, from same fishwrap, https://archive.is/7cEvZ >> 'A Current Affair reporter Ben McCormack has appeared in court for the first time since he was charged with child pornography offences.' << au competes with uk for 'who is premier anglo shithole'

asciilifeform: '"It's an exchange-side issue, where the Nasdaq disseminated bad data and traded corrupt messages to us during an exchange-side test of their systems," a Bloomberg spokeswoman told AFR, over the phone. ' didjaknow.

asciilifeform: didjaknow.

asciilifeform: in other unsurprises, 'Corrupt data that accidentally flowed out of a NASDAQ systems test caused the share prices...' ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: eventually provocation will work, trump will 'clintonize', i.e. connect himself with something 'uncontroversially' impeachable. ☟︎

asciilifeform: !#s kick the dog till it bites

asciilifeform: phf: matter of time.

asciilifeform: ( calling all kabbalists!111 ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: 47.

asciilifeform: ( though it ain't 7/4 in east gringolandia for another 3h )

asciilifeform: or because 7/4...

asciilifeform: the mega-enigma, of course, is why not 123.45

asciilifeform: the 'unhappenings' will be a riot ( picture the autotrading derp demanding reversed tx , etc )

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/IeEJo << ben_vulpes loltru!

asciilifeform: 'the analogue hole', if you will.

asciilifeform: as it is, even crapple pocket comps have standalone sdram.

asciilifeform: there is no possible counter to it, short of microshit introducing single-crystal comps ( was headed there, then mooreslaw croaked, now it is unlikely to ever happen )