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BingoBoingo suspects mp_en_viaje experienced worse GI upset that time he ate a slim jim
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 17:28 Mocky: for a living, well i wasn't good enough to sling dope, so i became a java programmer
shrysr: every geek here a software engg ?
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: hmm... by the time I got a job... All i wanted to do was work. I guess it was always a bit like that. Init was difficult... getting a car license etc... i dont know. I guess i never felt like it.
shrysr: with a combustion equipment mftr for 2 years...wasn't enough... migrated to canada. Spent a year desperately 'looking for a job'. Decided to start prep to switch into data science at this point....
shrysr: I'm a mechanical engg, by education (masters). My first 'love' was computational fluid dynamics (CFD), which is essentially simulating fluid flow on (usually) distributed computing clusters. i was into simulation driven design. Total work exp around 6 years. Spent the first 3 with a pump company in R&D doing CFD and hydraulic design.... it wasnt enough. Shifted out to 'applications engg' or technical sales
shrysr: i will setup direct publishing... and it shd be much better then. i live in a town called sundre, in Alberta. about an hour from the city calgary which I;'ve never been to
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: whats it like.... hmm.... i usually say that I am ok anywhere with reasonable internet and of course a computer. For most other outsiders- its probably close to unbearable
mp_en_viaje: sounds a little... how shall we put this. oppressed.
asciilifeform: very cautious an' pessimistic indian fella. used to design hydraulic pumps etc. 'Must look into asciilifeform‘s implementation of v.py (V versioning system) and formulate a plan of action. At first look, I have absolutely not an inkling of what is going on, and I am worried it will take a lifetime to do this'
mp_en_viaje: i got a trackback, first thoguht wtf is this spam (cuz you know, weird literal strings), then "holy shit wut is that url structure". had a 0.3 seconds of mental chaos.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, meanwhile diana_coman's student baked a wp and posting!
mp_en_viaje: is that a bad thing ?
asciilifeform: relatedly, not long ago some d00d rolled a cart fulla jerry cans into a cartoon studio in jp and burned whole thing down. shouted 'die, plagiarists'
mp_en_viaje: lol that's a thought.
Mocky: for you and get you a fresh start
Mocky: lobbes if you want to relocate 3 hours east, 90% chance I can get you a job in Ral, I have a spare room you can stay in while you look for a place, ditch the dysfunction, we'll find new girls ☟︎
lobbes_field: For context, I've had a dysfunctional (as in, the buck never stops) relationship with this girl for ~8 yrs. It is a major obstacle to my simply being able to think. I.e. my private and public spheres are not aligned... at all.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-11 16:19 lobbes_field: Relatedly, I'm thinking that once I produce the mod_lisp vpatch, I may just leave the rest of the cl-www project to spyked, while I instead work on a 'python/php www kit.
lobbes_field: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-22#1924185 << ack. I will make it a priority publish my #eulora logotron coad. Though please note: that thing was something I hacked together back in 2015, before I even 'knew' unix/python etc. (It is ugly) ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Figured it had to be either a Kibbutz or the German apology Kibbutzing
a111: Logged on 2017-08-15 16:23 shinohai: Charlie Shrem on twatter: "Bounty: I want to run a full node and connect to @Blockstream satellite. Sell me a DIY kit with all requirements"
asciilifeform: 'satellites offer the comfort of redundancy... ...lockstream isn’t launching satellites itself; it rents a small portion of the bandwidth on commercial satellites, which are mainly used for TV. The data is beamed up with enough bandwidth to ensure the blockchain stays up to date.' << pretty sure we had thread re this 'here have some inca central palace under guise of 'redundancy'' nuttery
mp_en_viaje: ~alternatively~, you write a glue api, taking things from logbot and putting it on your blog. may sound like a bad idea in this narrow context, but perhaps having a blog universal interfacer isn't a terrible idea, seeing how maybe theres more usecases. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, alternatively, you set up a mp-wp on postgres.
diana_coman: so uhm, basically it has to be a different mp-wp installation for logtron specifically?
asciilifeform: really imho would rather have genesis of phf's, than a php concoction ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, how appealing does the following sound to you : 1. run an instance of logbot, feeding the log into your mp-wp db, so that each day is publishd as a new post ; 2. have a special category for these, such as "logs" or w/e ; add a special search page, such that if one introduces a term is fed a list of days that include it, with the term preselected in the page by url.
asciilifeform suspects that mp_en_viaje is right, and a logtron frontend could be sewn outta mp's wp with minimal # of stitches.
mp_en_viaje: mp-wp entirely exists as "this thing that displays a database" thing. if you already have a thing that feeds a database, and miss athing that displays it, then mp=wp very well could be it.
mp_en_viaje: which it aint ? i got a link into the db via cmdline, why would i implement it via web ?
mp_en_viaje: it ~occurs to me~ however, that some trivial glue would readily turn a db pre-populated by this logbot into mp-wp pages.
mp_en_viaje: i recall there was a lisp bot, and yes then it got a logger appliance. that this is therefore "the logger" rather than the bot... i suppose we're discussing nominalisms
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: afaik the closest thing to a publication is ben_vulpes + trinque's item, where the irc and db backend was genesised , for some reason w/out the wwwistic frontend.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-06 23:08 asciilifeform: if these were available, could stand up a logger in 10min or so..
a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 08:45 mp_en_viaje: is the situation basically that neither phf nor framedragger ever published anything, while ben_vulpes has a logger that's... was it published or not ? i recall joint publishing a bot with trinque, that's lacking what, web bindings ? and then spyked was working on one that's not ready and lobbes has one but he never published code ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-22#1924180 << this is correct summary, in that no one has -- to date -- published a complete 'press and run' log sys. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 07:59 mp_en_viaje: if only there were somehow possible to make a trilema compiler, that'd then shit out the AST for it...
spyked: re. trilema compiler, I wonder what became of hanbot's http://thewhet.net/2018/01/the-trilema-article-database-a-toollet/ . was afaik the only attempt at indexing trilema ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: wth is this bullshit, anyway! left to own devices how about we just driftwood forever into nothingness! when i discovered a problem with mp-wp, at night in fucking minsk, i was also ~publishing~ a solution the next fucking morning, what the everloving fuck already.
mp_en_viaje: after which ima simply start banning loggers in channel ; and i'll have a very dim oppinion of everyone involved -- for very good cause! ; and i guess then have someone else make a proper logger, which will become mandatory because i'm not authorizing new ones until the old one fucks up.
mp_en_viaje: i guess ~optionally~ next-day service for any asking lord, in lieu of actual publishing -- which is a cop-out i will close my eyes upon for a limited time in the future. but in general, if you're not willing to share code within the l1, you have no business here at all.
mp_en_viaje: irrespective of what "i am supposed to do", what i'm going to do is this : ima give everyone a ~short~ interval to bring their log stacks up to speed, meaning ~absolutely~ a complete and ready to use v-tree (even if it's just one genesis, like idiots) that they can send any asking lord -- and i don't give a flying fuck how "proud" you are of the code you're using, you're what you do not what you say, or what you imagine yourself you wish to be. that
mp_en_viaje: if i have a lord on the record asking for service TWO WEEKS AGO and bupkiss, what am i supposed to do ? tell them "sorry, this is the republic we don't have fish at..." like in the old joke ?!
spyked: granted, I never set out to publish a logger www, but given the constant need and lack, I'll add it to my list
mp_en_viaje: is the situation basically that neither phf nor framedragger ever published anything, while ben_vulpes has a logger that's... was it published or not ? i recall joint publishing a bot with trinque, that's lacking what, web bindings ? and then spyked was working on one that's not ready and lobbes has one but he never published code ? ☟︎
diana_coman: ha, I read the logs this morning and guess what - that http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-22#1924167 ref is precisely what I was looking for (to hit a young enthusiast over the head with) ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in imperial news, i was re-reading 2016 and holy hell do three years make it obvious : the empire drones have optimized computing into "computing", whith a very obvious end goal of... making up more jobs!
mp_en_viaje: similar datasets might of course be constructed deliberately ("take all research paper in x field organized by etvos number or refcount or some metric"), but then they are... wrong! you end up constructing a dataset on some kind or manner of "global warming", which makes it exactly like "vampire fiction" or any other popcultural category, an exercise in kitsch fiction, meaning your ai will not work, for f ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: for one thing, the sheer volume -- larger things can be collected, but then they'd have to be of much lower coherence, something like "the gutenberg database of english literature" ; while similarily coherent things also exist (tho i'd argue it's still a "5, 3, 7, 2 and 4 are similar to 179" sort of similarity) but then they'd have to be much, much tinier.
mp_en_viaje: upon meditation, i do not believe there exists throughout the history of human culture a better dataset to train "ai"/"machine learning" upon.
mp_en_viaje: if only there were somehow possible to make a trilema compiler, that'd then shit out the AST for it... ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: what the fujck will i do with this disaster, the constant problem of "fuck me, now i can't find it" is one part ; the other part's that well... even when i think i know exactly what i want, an ever growing possibility is that in fact i don't, there's a better option i'm just not thinking of.
mp_en_viaje: "If you intend to spend your life avoiding objectification, you by that fact and necessarily will spend your life avoiding culture, wisdom, power and respect." tsk. the sad result of that re-read being a growing conviction that as trilema grows larger, the quality of my references grows weaker. i never used http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-anjie-well-actually-let-me-do-anjie-while-you-watch/?b=If%20you%20in&e=respect#select as a reference point in an
a111: Logged on 2019-07-22 07:35 mp_en_viaje: in other "optionality/failure" lulz, i'm re-reading http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-anjie-well-actually-let-me-do-anjie-while-you-watch/ because i linked it recently because i used a subpoint from it (the thing about STD gender disparity).
mp_en_viaje: hink I just took a guess? This isn't the first time this game has been played, there've been over 100 generations of Guess What Happens Next and it is the exact same answer every single time. All of this has happened before and it will happen again."
mp_en_viaje: "You're thinking, "I don't want to hear about how everything is interpretable through the artificial paradigm of narrative structure--" as if it was me and not your god who made it this way, as if I was better able to invent a convenient fiction that happened to apply to you rather than describe a process that's been used for millennia. You think you're the first? You think no one but you has lived your life? Do you think you are so unique? Do you t
mp_en_viaje: well, guess what ? https://theumlaut.com/ died back in 2015. as ballas SO APTLY put it,
mp_en_viaje: in other "optionality/failure" lulz, i'm re-reading http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-anjie-well-actually-let-me-do-anjie-while-you-watch/ because i linked it recently because i used a subpoint from it (the thing about STD gender disparity). ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: keks. remember back when flying a flag meant something ? back in the days of richard cobden an' the 4 night parliament debate on the 2nd opium war ?
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-amy-schumer-offers-you-a-look-into-your-soul-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Amy Schumer Offers You A Look Into Your Soul. Adnotated.
mp_en_viaje: In any case, the 2016 premonition did come true : we do in fact now have a decent working statement of what the problem'd be with "the form of christianity you were importing there" : by its fruits we know it as a silly concoction of pointless waste, producing nothing, good for nothing [of this world], entirely meaningless and pointedly indistinguishable from "postmodern art" or whatever other diseases of the overfed. It'll suck you dry while you've
mp_en_viaje: fuck, it was A COMMENT!
a111: Logged on 2016-07-10 22:35 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron at the very least the devil can't testify. who cares what the usg thinks you've done, nobody's liable to ask it, nor may it likely acquire a voice without losing itself.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-10 22:27 mircea_popescu: i suspect much more serious sticking points will come the other way. specifically, i suspect tmsr to be a larger intellectual force than whosoever darwin fish is, as a temporal rather than spiritual matter. consequently, the sticking point will not be inferences from him limiting us, but inferences from us driving him up the wall. for instance, obvious possible sticking point being that in tmsr doctrine, it is a sin to engage
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 05:55 mircea_popescu: so your plan for the ~rest of your life is to sit on a patch of dirt in ok and basically wait ?
mp_en_viaje: because i'm such a carefully innovative and polishedly expressive fellow, i never fucking use the same words for anything, for my sins.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 19:55 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881489 << then, logically, it belongs read by the feedbot of the channel of your church. just because the http://trilema.com/2014/the-death-of-taxes/#selection-185.0-185.1138 problem doesn't mean you get to assuage your evident awareness of what a shithead your bf is by hanging out with the cool chicks and pretending to some sort of comunion. go, get the tards off the mud they've been packin
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-a-little-bird-told-me-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - A Little Bird Told Me. Adnotated.
diana_coman: hm, current vtools still don't handle move of files or what am I missing here? I made a simple test with moving one file to a different location and as far as I can see, it's still delete + create, no move
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-a-generational-pathology-narcissism-is-not-grandiosity-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - A Generational Pathology: Narcissism Is Not Grandiosity. Adnotated.
bvt: hello. i'll be traveling this week, the end result is supposed to be a working trb node; i don't expect that any other productive work will be done otherwise. bvt_away is the account that i may switch to during this time.
mp_en_viaje: or, i suppose, from the other perspective, it's a wonder minsk people haven't taken over the literary world yet.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-a-final-thought-on-chos-mental-illness-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - A Final Thought On Cho's Mental Illness. Adnotated.
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2019/proper-html-linking-the-crisis-the-solution-the-resolution-conclusion/#comment-130042 << in other news, billymg had great refinement for whole thing, ditched troublemaking a tag!
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: can I setup a db backup with crontab directly or do you need to do that or how does it go?
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: would there be any problem from pizarro's point of view to have such a thing?
mp_en_viaje: there ~is~ a way to accept posting via email, however, if that floats your boat.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-20 19:26 diana_coman: hm, does anyone around here know a good way to allow WP logins for non-admin users from any IP while still keeping the admin restricted sanely?
BingoBoingo: Now, mp-wp does have a user role facility that allows restricting what different user names get to do.
diana_coman: hm, I suppose it should be possible to just make a different login page in the root dir but then they'd need at least another page to actually submit the text too and it all circles back to similar "offer the piece there"
BingoBoingo: Well, another option, one that requires offering them a shell is ye olde SOCKS proxy.
diana_coman: I wanted a less hands-on approach, since I'm planning to run a class there, not holding their hand at such level
diana_coman: hm, does anyone around here know a good way to allow WP logins for non-admin users from any IP while still keeping the admin restricted sanely? ☟︎
trinque: that's it, forth on a goddamned chalkboard !!1!
asciilifeform: in other lulz, asciilifeform goes to snailmail box and in it, a spam, 'buy gold-plated plaque of yer patent!'. a:'wtf' , goes an' loox, sure enuff, there is one, d00d who ran (long-defunkt) salt mine where asciilifeform was conscripted to write one, apparently kept payin', and so got shat out.
billymg: mp_en_viaje: left a comment with a solution to the selection inside of links issue. apologies for the multiple copies, it took a few tries for me to get the formatting right
a111: Logged on 2019-07-19 19:57 mp_en_viaje: do you recall that arguably famous-er pic of the guy on the er table with hips turning cyanotic hugging a telephone pole up his ass ?
mp_en_viaje: it's a private joke!
mp_en_viaje: as to the multiline thing, i recall my trying to spec a multi-line selector with framedragger just prior his disappearance. iirc he got it working, maybe lift that ?
mp_en_viaje: i daresay that when it comes to code, lines written in such a way that line count index is insufficient and one benefits from in-line linking as with the javascript is ~therefore~ broken
mp_en_viaje: imho in a piece like that the correct approach would be the same as we do for logs : have the line numbers hyperlinked.
mp_en_viaje: why would this not work for a section of a line tho ?
mp_en_viaje: tim tarder's lee www, a succession of tradeoffs
asciilifeform: say i want to select section of a line of coad ?
asciilifeform: a++++
mp_en_viaje: try the link in the very article, following http://trilema.com/2019/proper-html-linking-the-crisis-the-solution-the-resolution-conclusion/?b=interests,&e=,%20it#select ; and the one it links to ( http://trilema.com/2016/a-complete-theory-of-politics/?b=The%20alpha&e=The%20female#select ) on the republican thesaurus page, as cannonical examples
asciilifeform: do you actually get a correct output on own box ?!
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-a-diagnosis-of-schizophrenia-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - A Diagnosis Of Schizophrenia. Adnotated.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-20#1923925 << there absolutely ought to. in the general. it's not clear to me this is also mandatory ~on every system~. basically a "light node" debate is upon us. ☝︎