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mircea_popescu: MPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 580 in U.S. currency. 3 . On ,or about February 9, 2017, at approximately 8: 17 p. m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 746 in U.S. currency. 4. On or about February 10, 2017, at approximately 11:52 p.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that may be, but what of 11 In furtherance of this conspiracy and to effect the objects thereof, the following overt acts, among others, were committed: 1. On or about February 8, 2017, at approximately 12:10 a.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 500 in U.S. currency. 2. On or about February 8, 2017, at approximately 10:29 p.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CA
asciilifeform: i'm not convinced that the mexican was zek ( well, until picked up and enzekked )
mircea_popescu: it's the cycle of ourdemocracy scamolade.
mircea_popescu: simple heuristic : what starts as a scam moves on to http://trilema.com/2015/so-the-broomstick-fired/ "agenture" and then finally on to the inca resting place.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw they always Officially print 'when crossing the border' (recall the ru d00d kidnapped 'in spain' etc.) it's the new 'shot while escape'. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i guess they're getting pretty desperate, if they're throwing randos in jail in lieu of making good on their usg.bitfinex takeover obligations.
mircea_popescu: anyway, dood didn't get dragged anywhere, he kept crossing teh border.
mircea_popescu: sucks to be a zek, huh.
asciilifeform: ^ tldr, mexican d00d ran small btc-fiatola house; dragged into usa for gassing.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:39 mircea_popescu: i have eight sets of "sb" (solid branch) : 503 q 222 ; 1466 q 3 ; 973 q 207 ; 983 q 252 ; 1651 q 258 ; 2963 q 189 ; 563 q 22 and 336 q 225. the first number is the count, the second the quality (depends on your mining, whatever) ; you can mix these, the game will floor the average quality. this means you can lose matter through mixing, so you want to mix stacks so as to obtain the highest possible quality final.
Mocky: oh hey, i didn't have the context for that knapsack challenge when I read it in the logs, had no idea what it meant. meanwhile forgot all about it
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:38 mircea_popescu: here's a nice eulora knapsack problem for anyone looking to sharpen their ACTUAL computer science skills :
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-20#1525883 << two years ago exactly! ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/algorithmics-problem-seeking-experts/ << Trilema - Algorithmics problem seeking experts
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i think it was cu jacket on steel core, like bullet << They usually are
asciilifeform: i think it was cu jacket on steel core, like bullet
asciilifeform: evidently they have shit aim!11
a111: Logged on 2018-08-21 20:13 ben_vulpes: i say, this coordinated attack on the republic is underimpressive
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-21#1843539 << wait, the chickens ?! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-21 18:26 phf: this is for scripting though, the constraints are presumably not as tight. also gc is a kind of outer bound of a problem, can usually be special cased on a case by case. e.g. in erlang's case you can do region based allocation per process: cons as much as you want, collect everything when process dies.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-21#1843514 << i agree it may make more sense for scripting than systems language. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i say, this coordinated attack on the republic is underimpressive ☟︎
BingoBoingo: 1000x that
BingoBoingo: At least its only a five figure number of chickens. My initial thought was 10x that.
mod6: hate to see that kinda waste
BingoBoingo: It's a tale as old as time. Chicken company went bankrupt. Food gets low during a cold snap while the paperwork to get more food is en tramite. Chickens starve
mod6: BingoBoingo: eitherway, terrible news :/
BingoBoingo: In other local developments: THe chickens are dying of hunger https://www.elobservador.com.uy/otros-10-mil-pollos-muertos-falta-alimentacion-n1266045
asciilifeform: consing does a potentially very large amt of behind the scenes work, up to and including a full gc
phf: Mocky: it's an affectation, old time lispers used to refer to any kind of allocation as consing, but in c terms the implication there is malloc + whatever collection facility, not just a fire and forget malloc
Mocky: cons is malloc for lisp, or is more meant by that?
asciilifeform: aa 'green thread'
asciilifeform: dun need any support from the writer
phf: (apparently erlang does that already. gc is a per-process, everything's collected when the process dies, but a very traditional gc can be enabled or disabled also per process. apparently you can also specify process's heap size on allocation, and do things when that heap fills up)
asciilifeform: all i particularly care for in re scripting is to obtain a replacement for perl/python/bash where the interpreter is simple (i.e. readable, fits-in-head, auditable, correct) ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: for scripting, of the 'death is your gc' variety, and where proggy is not safety-critical ( no crypto , at least not directly ) the above dun apply, sure
phf: this is for scripting though, the constraints are presumably not as tight. also gc is a kind of outer bound of a problem, can usually be special cased on a case by case. e.g. in erlang's case you can do region based allocation per process: cons as much as you want, collect everything when process dies. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( before anybody asks -- imho it is physically impossible to get this effect on pc iron, where not only caching but such things as sdram burst r/w exist )
asciilifeform: but i have no such thing.
asciilifeform: i'd be quite happy to use a gc lang if i had iron that provides hard-O(1) cons
asciilifeform: phf: unless i'm mistaken, it is pretty tightly married to gc / ability to cons, tho
asciilifeform: phf: aha, conceivably can put it on one of those tiny 'secd' scheme vm's
phf: re upstack gotta see how small an erlang vm can really be made. to some extent that work is going to be done with the whole tmsr scripting language direction, where we have different vm's explored on a cutting table.
asciilifeform: Mocky: process scheduler is annoying in re timing the instruction count used by a proggy . but doesn't leak anything if your proggy doesn't data-dependently address or branch.
Mocky: so then do you have to contend also with e.g. linux process scheduler?
asciilifeform: gc time and space behaviour is a big fat side channel into pretty much any crypto .
asciilifeform: there is no room in that for the possibility of 'maybe right here gc kicks in, and will take variable time depending on what you've been doing for past week'
asciilifeform: troo determinism means that i can write the exact sequence of instructions that will execute in the routine, and the exact addresses that will be referenced as operands, in the exact order.
asciilifeform: as in, 'modular multiplication will use EXACTLY 16kB each time, and they will go in this-here range of addrs, which then will zero, and it will take N nanoseconds'
asciilifeform: Mocky: speaking of ~tight~ bounds, rather than upper/lower
a111: 138 results for "constant time", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=constant%20time
asciilifeform: !#s constant time
asciilifeform: Mocky: utterly destroys ability to put hard time and space cost bounds on anything whatsoever
Mocky: asciilifeform, what's the problem with gc in this context?
asciilifeform: even somehow abstracting over these -- proglang with gc is simply not acceptable in safety-critical/crypto proggy. it is at least in principle possible to write cl without cons; but afaik this is not practical in erlang
asciilifeform: i.e. yes it successfully cures pointerism, overflowism, but at the cost of massive ball of ??? runtime, making your proggy effectively unauditable and quite certainly unmicrocontrollerable
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 18:36 asciilifeform: the closest runner-up contender was standard ml, but it demands a ~MB-sized runtime , and imposes gc , nobody is ever stuffing it into 32kB.
asciilifeform: phf: i actually liked erlang, and even considered for battlefield, but ended up rejecting for the same reason as standard ml, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815589 ☝︎
mircea_popescu passes on the pregnancy wisecracks.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843300 << little known fact: slime's architecture was originally implemented in a similar project for erlang called distel, by the same author luke gorrie. lukego also wrote an emacs clone in erlang and tcp/ip stack in cmucl. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 20:59 mircea_popescu: just normal toothpaste.
mircea_popescu: "why don't you eat these delicious foods ? they've got meat in them!" "yeah, 80%, the rest is digoxin, who wouldn't eat them!" "you mean you're one of those tinfoil weirdos with the homeopathy ?" "yeah, actually. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843215 " " ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the problem further compounded by the fact contemporary vaccine IS work of devil.
BingoBoingo: Well, a lot of people struck with the mumps here were in their 30s which suggests stretching the vaccine out may be a fairly common thing here
asciilifeform: 'vaccine is work of the devil' has the obvious down side, neh.
BingoBoingo: That hit a ton of people
asciilifeform: bahahahaha BingoBoingo , recall the 'mumps epidemic' in BingoBoingostan
asciilifeform: imho strange that the intellectual capital of its time went long on defense against mob with pitchforks and so very short on intellectual 'fortifications'
asciilifeform: afaik nobody even rammed at the oxford front wall, at all
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reminiscent of the much later fall of su, fortress walls intact but raped through backdoor and via 5thcolumn
mircea_popescu: (not for me as much as for these fine fellows, they still like their middle earth etc)
mircea_popescu: the 2000s gutting is in http://trilema.com/2018/wood-impregnated-in-oil-a-metaphor/ ; don't ask about the 1900s gutting, it's too painful to think about
mircea_popescu: heh. that's the 1800s gutting.
Mocky had pictured some savile row gents taking afternoon tea between lectures
mircea_popescu: the walls -- will be built. whether the king has the sense to hire masons to do it ; or the king is absent and darwin's stuck "holding the walls up with his back", http://trilema.com/2009/inchipuiti-va/ style... the walls will be built.
mircea_popescu: 20% to research, 80% to phrasing research results "in such a way as to not..."
mircea_popescu: "why should i make a correct tool when could just use this thing available next day for 9.95 ?"
mircea_popescu: precisely how supposedly thinking people ended up writing papers on "global warming" and whatnot. grants amirite ? the COMFORT.
mircea_popescu: ie, monarchy got meanwhile overwhelmed by "democracy", so the moron mind was "in charge" so it dispensed largesse instead of trying to attack thought outright.
mircea_popescu: the problem in the time of darwin, however, was a bunch of morons trying to persuade him of their wisdom.
mircea_popescu: the problem in the time of newton was a bunhc of morons wanting to "burn down the sorcery".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta funny, from entomological pov, how 1 physically actual devil -- the half-century (and continuing) usg fondness for 'great seal'-style microwave bugs, where the power van yes - fries - the occupants of the bugged dwelling, 'cost of doing business' -- spawned entire pantheon of mythical contagions
Mocky: comforting fairy tales? to what does that refer?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-20 21:06 asciilifeform: for a laugh, look some time for spectrum analyzer on lulazon. will find 9000 'homeopathic' boxes for 'finding the cia mind control rays'.
mircea_popescu: which i suspect may actually be the principal destabilizing factor historically, driving the error generation process.
mircea_popescu: this being yet another aspect of the problems of man alone. absent a fortress where to do it, he's stuck solving some kinds of problems in some kinds of ways only.
mircea_popescu: fortress. so the people inside can fire cannon upon the peasants outside. because this fucking reason.
mircea_popescu: for instance, do you know why it has walls, and how they were ever used ?
mircea_popescu: what do you know of the history of oxford ?
mircea_popescu: without a formal AND FORMALIZED republic it's fucking hard for people to handle the orc pressure
mircea_popescu: hey, newton never published FOR REASONS rather than by neglect.
Mocky: in '99 I and 2 others wrote a web framework in java for use in our company's products, no such published thing was extant. shortly after someone else published identical item named 'struts', not stolen merely obvious solution. I then watched the published 'struts' turn into ever bigger piles of shit year over year and suffered job interviewers probing my knowledge of 'struts' and i think that quite colored my
mircea_popescu: anyway, the problems were 1. to determine the brachistochrone, and 2. to find a curve such that if any line drawn from a fixed point O cut it in P and Q then OP^n + OQ^n would be constant.
mircea_popescu: https://gordma.wordpress.com/2014/03/26/we-know-the-lion-by-his-claw/ << not terrible summary, anyway, even if terribly light on the maffs. but hey, "tanquam ex ungue leonem", lit hum etc.
mircea_popescu: very much tmsr problems, smack drab in the middle ages.
mircea_popescu: there was a problem circulated by the swiss circle of mathematicians, which he elegantly solved (anonymously). except they saw right through the anonymity, because doh, and begged him to select and publish the infinitesimal calculus method, lest someone else steals it.
Mocky: not the last point
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, infinitesimal calculus was exactly this, never published as such but merely used, "by the claw we know the lion" etc. you familiar with all that ?
mircea_popescu: so then : he, like you, also had "partial of code that I wrote *with* other intelligent people and partially of things that i just just wrote personally to simplify my own common tasks and found useful over a long period of time"