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asciilifeform: possibly 1 of these days i oughta publish my kludge for making ancient wp go on postgres; but it isn't half as polished as mp's and i dunno that anyone would win from cribbing it
trinque: can't get to it immediately, in about an hour or two can
asciilifeform: i was hoping to avoid baking hashing into ffa/p , but loox like it isn't escapable if we're doing oaep
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 10:54 diana_coman: and done: the updated .vpatch files and starter_v.zip + sigs are all up; I've checked them on my RK; genesis is the same and result is identical to V-2017; the result of 99993 .vpatch is identical to V-2018; the result of keccak_vtools vpatch is to update BOTH docs and code; re docs, I've nuked the user manual as I won't maintain it and it's becoming confusing due to being out of date; I've updated the quick_guide however, mainly for 1st t
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-14#1872191 << Totall get it that you don't want to maintain the user docs, I do disagree that they were are out date tho. I did a diff between them from the 99994K and 99993K versions and I did update it for the Feb release. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-14 08:05 diana_coman: mod6, I don't see any comment from you on my blog, what happened? (re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-14#1872143 )
asciilifeform: i think just his bigendian vs littlendian speshulcases (why he has any?! ffa doesn't..! ) weigh moar than all of ffa together
diana_coman: and done: the updated .vpatch files and starter_v.zip + sigs are all up; I've checked them on my RK; genesis is the same and result is identical to V-2017; the result of 99993 .vpatch is identical to V-2018; the result of keccak_vtools vpatch is to update BOTH docs and code; re docs, I've nuked the user manual as I won't maintain it and it's becoming confusing due to being out of date; I've updated the quick_guide however, mainly for 1st t ☟︎
diana_coman: mod6, I don't see any comment from you on my blog, what happened? (re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-14#1872143 ) ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: fwiw the keccak-version of v (i.e. pressing the tree I published all the way to its leaf) IS the corrected one re pressing order ; later today I'll do a diff with precisely the versions mod6 has at http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/ but going by version number I really don't see what "old version" are you saying
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1872093 << i utterly don't understand this "stealing" mindset. http://btcbase.org/log/2013-09-13#307975 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: vk.pl doesn't find the vpatch executable in the current dir ( this is not hard to fix tho, i'ma fix )
diana_coman: I've tested it quickly on my Rockchip itself and I couldn't spot any trouble, but let me know if you find any problems with it
mircea_popescu: noo, didn't estlos make a lisp v ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-13 14:43 phf: asciilifeform: i've posted a v.pl patch http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867871 ( archived http://archive.is/ZJUMM ), unfortunately since v.pl doesn't have its own vtree, doing it properly requires a bunch of extra work
BingoBoingo: Can't win if "try not to lose too much material" turns into "Imma impress the Kaiser by prioritizing not losing ANY material attacking"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Real Prussia can't be an island
mircea_popescu: well, apparently i can't find it anymore. is line in log somewhere, "if you understand, like ro girls understood in the 90s, that your cunt does not belong to you, the place will stay cool for slightly longer" or somesuch.
asciilifeform: i haven't the faintest idea re just how the yellow hieroglyph folx pulled it off. but apparently they did.
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean, "stop feeding", i mean chinese troops marching in new york, tearing down statue of liberty to replace with huge penis, and forcing everyone to do by-hand electronics picking for the rest of their miserable woirtheless lives.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how useless the anglos are. do you know that in ALL OF CHICAGO 100% of the "bitcoin market" consists of this one inept fed ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: what i can't wrap my head around is why nobody's mass-produced a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-11#1871212 and put an end to the whole 'digital evidence' 'rule of law' pretense circus ☝︎
asciilifeform: imho at&t asm syntax is a fucking plague
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-13#1871739 << jesus fuck this is what people don't like about emulators. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (and this, for the record, is also why i think very little of eg pete_dushenski's private committments : http://trilema.com/2015/very-bad-things/#selection-37.0-37.32 female misbehaviour exists ~specifically~ and strictly and only because they're covering up for this fundamental "between boys and walls daddy chose walls, don't upset him".
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's q wasn't 'whether 4th reich is ripe for the visigoths', seems pretty clear that it is. but whether the entire cycle, where manchu horsemen , 'free and manly' , invade, then turn into fat and idjit empress cixi, is escapable or not
mircea_popescu: (hey, you can't prove it isn't a party!!!) and other such http://trilema.com/2011/voi-ce-ati-facut-in-viata-asta-ba/#selection-119.375-119.430 nonsense.
mircea_popescu: anyway, but the important point can't be overstated enough. it's not a matter of terra-ad-limine, whereby the county is from this limit to that limit to that other limit, and as long as you're not past the limits therefore you're inside and thereby anjie is "in tech" (hey, you can't prove she's out, right ? therefore she;s in ?) and also thereby http://trilema.com/2012/generatia-fara/#selection-145.61-145.72 stands as a party
mircea_popescu: well, if it exists somewhere we haven't found it yet ; but it certainly informs reasoning lines such as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846537 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but it wasn't proposed he's "typical" or "normal" or in any way reduce his person to some kind of http://trilema.com/2016/the-herd-of-independent-minds-or-has-the-avantgarde-its-own-mass-culture/#selection-87.551-87.706 falsity. when i call my slave "a slave" i do not by any possible read propose that "she has some kind of slave nature" like nail polish or something.
mircea_popescu: "it's possible" right ? except no, it fucking ain't.
mircea_popescu: your whole argument is essentially seinfeld's "oh, my parents having sex... i dunno... i haven't seen it... as far as i know they could maybe be just really, REALLY good friends!"
mircea_popescu: history doesn't exist because grandchildren wanked it in the bed at night ; history exists because grandfathers fucked grandmothers.
asciilifeform: didn't they staff it mostly with zeks tho
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, it's latino "culture" so to speak, tho it has entirely nothing to do with culture, much like "they fuck mud with sticks all day" isn't "african industry", it's just african nothing.
phf: asciilifeform: i've posted a v.pl patch http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867871 ( archived http://archive.is/ZJUMM ), unfortunately since v.pl doesn't have its own vtree, doing it properly requires a bunch of extra work ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i can't speak for other folx, but i dun expect to need this particularly soon, so there is time to unravel the puzzler
asciilifeform: in the particular example of udp, a coupla extra MOV's won't make a diff speedwise (vs the latency of the nic) but this sorta thing will be ugly once we start writing kernel mods in ada / moving off unix entirely
asciilifeform: not since leaving at&t cellars at any rate
mircea_popescu: what, specifically, is the tag supposed to convey ? cuz it sure as fuck doesn't seem to be "we'll randomly change abis because why the fuck not, windowns power!"
mircea_popescu: if it were a case of "phf why the fuck are you using non-v or non-tmsr or non-standard or non-something" it'd have legs. as it is it's "phf why didn't you intuit what's in the magic box under my bed" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you seriously can't go after people who happen to not share your ~unpublished~ personal pre-chain.
asciilifeform: i can't think of anyffing to do but a) make flensed version of phf's that actually worx here, i have NO intention of breaking my legacy toolchain in which i still have 90000 unconverted private patches or b) bake an e.g. if gpg.__version__ = phf : ... else .... thing
phf: asciilifeform: because that routine doesn't work with version 0.4.1, it only picks up primary keys
phf: asciilifeform: yours doesn't have any notion of subkeys, so i'm not entirely sure "how" it worked.
bvt: mircea_popescu: unfortunately i can't provide a timeline for the syscalls yet: between 19.11. and 07.12. i will have time for only very minor work, following logs, etc.
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871478 << fixing/replacing the theme is on my todo list, however i still haven't fixed all the problems in wp-admin (png/jpg vs svg), so work on the theme will have to wait a bit. ☝︎☟︎
phf: i think locale based collation for en or us or whatever puts some punctuation marks into odd positions. "gratuitous" i believe is the word, that is we couldn't figure out the sense behind it
asciilifeform: originally i was gonna simply regrind ( by running through new vdiff ) ch1-11, and invite reader to hand-diff if he likes and see that only hashes have changed. but then noticed that the new vdiff also processes files in different order, so this won't give clean 'only hashes' diff. so thinking, may as well retrofit manifest to each of ch1-11
mircea_popescu: (really, just a disguised attempt to show off my latest header. ain't that shit insane ?)
mircea_popescu: "they just haven't heard the good word yet" dontchaknow.
mircea_popescu: alternatively "auto-process as text comments that don't have any > in them", but then it still bites as you could have a link and a log-style << and so on.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:02 phf: this gnulib solution actually wants you to define FOO_INLINE, which is set to "inline" when defined, and "extern inline" when used, so you can't even avoid the #define hackery with "extern inline". "Other non-C99 compilers use static inline so they suffer from code bloat, but they are not mainline platforms and will die out eventually."
trinque: I didn't know it was offline, but at any rate, would make the mention of "remote hands" a hell of a lot more meaningful
BingoBoingo: And in other local news as I decompress the brain for sleep, locals keep telling me the pichis aren't the center of Uruguaya culture and yet, the paper of record publishes too much about them https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/la-ciudad-de-los-indigentes-2018119195210
diana_coman: pretty much that: if it's so ugly that you can't handle it sanely, then either fix it or, failing that, use Ada's Streams since that's what they are for anyway.
diana_coman: ah, I see it; I did look and I saw you used both but I couldn't confidently identify the decision as to where one and where the other
diana_coman: perhaps if the structures and protocol were way hairier than they there, the gains would be worth it - but in such case I'm not sure it wouldn't point to a need to simplify rather than a need for streams or some such
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-10#1870705 -> the more I think of this, the less I see the case for it: essentially I don't think the serialization part should really be that important that it forces upstream to deal with fixed-size records only sort of thing. Also, for the case at hand, it's basically unclear that the gain is worth it anyway: yes, fixed-size (i.e. max-size) record means one can do the serialization of that directly but the ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mod6> BingoBoingo: don't forget to send those invoices when you get a chance today. << Since I am elbow deep in the customer information today, I plan to fire off the invoices as soon as things are polished up.
mod6: BingoBoingo: don't forget to send those invoices when you get a chance today.
mod6: asciilifeform: I'll take some time, but in all honesty, I think Mr. Popescu has it on all accounts. I don't even think he wants to be right on this one, yet he is. And presently, there is nothing I can do to pour myself into the Republic, Foundation, or Pizarro more than I currently am. And at this level of commitment, is harmful to all.
mod6: In my mind, the Republic isn't just a bunch of individuals - at the low level, of course, we are. But we're here for something greater than ourselves, and that is what drives all of us to put time and money into.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:48 mircea_popescu: and in the same vein : if i lose my fucking carkeys, my "prospective plan for carkey finding" doesn't read ANYTHING like "day 1 : look for carkeys ; day 2 : look for carkeys ; day 3 : look for carkeys ; day 4...".
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:33 mircea_popescu: . on the short term you'll have to take some time off and think long and hard and in all seriousness about what you want from this life, because continuing on your present course can't possibly bring much beyond disaster.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:33 mircea_popescu: the "sad" news, from this perspective (though it is boldly and fundamentally the exact opposite of sad) is that no, there isn't any "return to the grand old days" on the table. ~emphatically~ not. bitcoin ain't going back to spending a summer at 2 dollars a coin ; and consequentlly you're not going back to being the mod6 of 2013 on ten hours a week and lukewarm committment.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:32 mircea_popescu: you can't really be the head of the foundation as a guy who monthly publishes a page of .txt on a website somewhere ; you can't really be the board of the isp as a guy who comes up with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-05#1858303 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-05#1839737 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1846185 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825070
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/heres-something-you-dont-see-nearly-often-enough/ << Trilema - Here's something you don't see nearly often enough
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 13:32 mircea_popescu: mod6 after a night's meditation, I still don't see a direct solution for your problem.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-11#1871158 << it isn't clear to me that hashing is even needed -- issue to each customer a 256bit string (base64 it) out of a FG, that will be his pseudonym in the public spreadshit. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 04:16 mod6: Ok, so I'm gonna call it a night. What I do know at this point is the ``surplus'' that we're seeing in the statements goes back at least through the August report. However, I'm not even certain at this point if what I'm seeing is actually incorrect, as I said earlier. Or if I just don't understand what I'm looking at. There's a strong chance that I just don't understand it.
mircea_popescu: the drawback is that you get humans who can't add.
mircea_popescu: i still can't imagine how ~any approach fails on it, seeing how the whole customer list is what, dozen ? less ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-11 15:27 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah come the fuck on, he finds out there's a program mid nov ? why, he didn't look in the right place in the pgpball ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if robo-woman can muster the hiring of actual pair of hands, to hoist boxen, weasel heathens into 'bank acct', etc -- then yes. tho it still wouldn't crack the problem of 'loyal hands'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was ben_vulpes's thing, and doesn't appear to be in the pgpball, was a separate communique, part of ben_vulpes's 'i'm off to the desert' msg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah come the fuck on, he finds out there's a program mid nov ? why, he didn't look in the right place in the pgpball ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: i can't picture anybody actually thinking this crud.
mircea_popescu: because it ain't fucking happening, what the fuck.
mircea_popescu: sure, so you have some secrets. nothing wrong with this. but you don't have half a mb of secrets, as you well point out.
mircea_popescu: perhaps the first diplomatic mission in the 3k year long history of diplomacy that ~didn't even need crypto~.
mircea_popescu: you don't get the same benefit from not running a node ; nor from not knowing how to note-to-web.
mircea_popescu: i don't think that's necessarily the way to go. for one thing, man's doing cuntoo ; for the other thing, you are well advised to run own node and do own thing rather than build an irc dependency into your isp.
mircea_popescu: anything that doesn't fail to match the numbers indeed suffices!
mircea_popescu: why can't you just use the normal upload process. give it a txt file and let it work.
mircea_popescu: not like you don't have fg.
mircea_popescu: don't ask the customer for things you don't have to. customer pays, that's enough. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: my plan looks like day 1 : look everywhere (no, that ~everywhere~ isn't a manner of speech) while taking breaks to ejaculate profanity and try and think wtf i did ; day 2 : hang all the servants maids etc in the dungeon and gets the hose again until i am satisfied by the account of each one as to how they've not lost my keys for me ; day 3 : get new keys, install webcams, gps trackers and etc."
asciilifeform: as i understand, doesn't even require crypto, customer supplies ( achtung, customers ! ) arbitrary bitstring, it will be his pseudonym in the document.
mircea_popescu: and in the same vein : if i lose my fucking carkeys, my "prospective plan for carkey finding" doesn't read ANYTHING like "day 1 : look for carkeys ; day 2 : look for carkeys ; day 3 : look for carkeys ; day 4...". ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you see any potential problem in idea of making the 'spreadshit' realtime-public ? ( when we get heathen customers, they may want their names omitted, i suppose, but as it stands i can't picture why not )
mircea_popescu: . on the short term you'll have to take some time off and think long and hard and in all seriousness about what you want from this life, because continuing on your present course can't possibly bring much beyond disaster. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the "sad" news, from this perspective (though it is boldly and fundamentally the exact opposite of sad) is that no, there isn't any "return to the grand old days" on the table. ~emphatically~ not. bitcoin ain't going back to spending a summer at 2 dollars a coin ; and consequentlly you're not going back to being the mod6 of 2013 on ten hours a week and lukewarm committment. ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 14:36 mod6: We are discussing/thinking about how to recapitalize, get more rockchips, customers. So this is on going. I don't think anyone is wasting anytime by any streach of imagination.[
a111: Logged on 2018-08-31 16:21 mircea_popescu: you seriously can't be sitting there spending hours on this pennies thing.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 01:33 mod6: I actually didn't think it was any big deal, as previous months I had made these deals behind closed doors with jurov as wel.
mircea_popescu: you can't really be the head of the foundation as a guy who monthly publishes a page of .txt on a website somewhere ; you can't really be the board of the isp as a guy who comes up with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-05#1858303 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-05#1839737 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-31#1846185 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825070 ☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: mod6 after a night's meditation, I still don't see a direct solution for your problem. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Whatever you do mod6 don't nightmare about the accounting when you sleep. Have sweet dreams of Cabo Polonia, the lobos marinos, and the brasileras
mod6: Ok, so I'm gonna call it a night. What I do know at this point is the ``surplus'' that we're seeing in the statements goes back at least through the August report. However, I'm not even certain at this point if what I'm seeing is actually incorrect, as I said earlier. Or if I just don't understand what I'm looking at. There's a strong chance that I just don't understand it. ☟︎