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Adlai: nubbins`: why aren'
t you printing it?
assbot: Logged on 09-04-2014 09:10:25; mircea_popescu: tbh im kinda surprised teh tradepress isn'
t howling all about "in january, 'Bitcoin Baron Keeps a Secretive Open Source OS Alive' ; in april, nsa's crown jool is thrown in the dirt of the public space."
Adlai: assbot is immune to suicidal depression, because it doesn'
t even know it exists
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 14-11-2014 22:24:42; asciilifeform: (for n00bs only: who is 'lizard hitler' ? a character approximately as real as magnetic field lines were to michael faraday. don'
t look for magnetic field lines, they aren'
t there. physically. or as far as we can tell, anyway.)
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 11-12-2013 00:40:16; asciilifeform: i can'
t help but imagine some fellow at Meta-NSA, with a pill against ECDSA hidden under a flower pot in his office, laughing his arse off at these morons.
undata: I don'
t see a reason to pull any plugs
undata: TheNewDeal: supposing "he" is usgov; why wouldn'
t they just sit back and let it take over, and hold their 1/21 or more of it?
TheNewDeal: not interested about the nsa connection now, but the "why hasn'
t he pulled the plug?" question
undata: asciilifeform: I don'
t believe or disbelieve it
Adlai: well, you can'
t convince another person you're not a martian. hell, i don'
t think i could convince myself that i'm not unwittingly carrying out martian bidding.
Adlai: according to github, v0.5.3 has 36 committers with github accounts (for example, doesn'
t include satoshi). compare this with starting on Apr 1, 2011: 8
Adlai: undata: this is more along the lines of "confirm by human approval that an unforseen software/bureaucracy/insanity 'bug' isn'
t afoot"
undata: your text editor isn'
t checking against known hashes
Adlai is not sufficiently familiar with each line of code itself to tell which of those contributions, or ones in the ensuing spikes, are trivially trustable, and which aren'
t Adlai: apparently logs aren'
t either!
Adlai: darcs isn'
t that intelligent. the input data it gets from a repository is a partially ordered list of patches, possibly signed. this is slightly more general than an ordered list of patches, but just as secure and interactive/manual
Adlai: same bounds hold, or don'
t, for "his patches, and all those dependent upon them"
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 16:38:23; asciilifeform: Adlai: darcs << as a military man, perhaps you are familiar with systems that could be automated easily, but aren'
t? e.g., ru nuke sub controls
Adlai: don'
t worry, i'm just phucting with you
Adlai: it's not any better than gpg auth, but i don'
t see why it's any worse either
mircea_popescu: badly thought out, pointless functionality doesn'
t get much use among the sane.
mircea_popescu: Adlai you don'
t understand. there's nothing more readily cohesive of a group than hatred for old people.
Adlai: well, old people who don'
t keep supporting themselves enough to stay alive without support from other tribes... will die of old age
Adlai: :-o "millions long for immortality who don'
t know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon" by the guy who died on a Sunday afternoon
Adlai: you don'
t think this is possible?
Adlai: the exact timescale doesn'
t matter, it'll happen
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> or with an entirely non-interactive and ultimately easily described physical system that you simply don'
t grasp yet. << incidentally, the brain seems to fit this quite exactly.
nubbins`: asciilifeform unfortunately the sea won'
t be seen as alive until after it's dead D:
mircea_popescu: but that doesn'
t mean they're not the same damned function.
mircea_popescu: undata the argument mind, isn'
t that some eliza-trees don'
t make much better looking reality-clothes than others.
mircea_popescu: well, the reason might be that there couldn'
t be such a thing. there's nothing that makes "good science" better than a pile of shanonized papers.
mircea_popescu: let us not discuss this in terms of understanding, something we care about. let us instead discuss in terms of love, something we don'
t care about.
mircea_popescu: they don'
t know how to compute whether x option ios better than y option in any situation, but they do know you don'
t just walk into mordor
mircea_popescu: and i couldn'
t get out of bed without 5000 "hey mp, what do you think of this toaster" "is bitcoin going up i must know because of my 0.05 btcent investment!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform something tells me i won'
t be getting the "mp's blog, first place to announce tor is shit, a year or so ago" all over the "tech" "press". just like i didn'
t get the "mp forces wikileaks to release unedited cables by publishing the romanian subset" a few years back
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 it didn'
t take this long, that tor was routinely compromised was an open secret.
mircea_popescu: You don'
t know. If your dad needs money, go ask Mickey Mantle. See what happens. Mickey Mantle don'
t care about you. Why care about him? Nobody cares.
mircea_popescu: it's almost like watching a cell react in an infection, all sorts of bizarro mechanisms that you don'
t even dare declare exist seem to work in werido ways.
BingoBoingo: Well, a lot of the problems Bitcoin solves aren'
t relevant to ISIS
mircea_popescu: that means either i don'
t have kids or my kids don'
t do so well.
mircea_popescu: let me model why : if i'm in that situation and you ask me that, i'ma in typical style go "wel lfrankly, i didn'
t believe that ice can crush steel. sue me."
mircea_popescu: i don'
t think they understood ice will crush the ship, tbh.
mircea_popescu: the fundamntal understanding of this is illustrated by the case made for giving people tenure and shit. research is an activity of the safe, which is why prisons and other emperor of the flies situations aren'
t conducive to proving the fermat conjecture.
mircea_popescu: i can'
t imagine anyone'd manage to supress it if it could work.
mircea_popescu: being a physicist doesn'
t make one immune, only diffusion makes one immune.
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin software does not appear to be vetted to such an extend. << the english-
t to d migration is soooo indicative of a native romanian speaker you can'
t imagine.
assbot: Maybe You Shouldn'
t Thank This Specific Follower, Patriots?
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 22:25:37; mircea_popescu: rithm: it's cryptowall now and from what i can tell it's infected sites like mom & pop's ruinning old WP/drupal/some CMS <<< yeah, stuff the shitheads in question don'
t maintain, then i have to answer biweekly questions of "is qntra down". off with their heads i say!
punkman: nubbins`: so maybe deedbot shouldn'
t be stripping the \n at eof << it's not really, just doesn'
t care for anything outside the first and last dash of a gpg message
punkman: Naphex, could have been worse, good thing you aren'
t Nigerian
BingoBoingo: You would think so, but in USia it isn'
t possible to pay enoug for a farmhand who cares to
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: On the otherhand it isn'
t the slightest bit unbelievable for a dairy cow to drag its titties through cow shit <<< im pretty sure nobody milks unwashed anymore.
mircea_popescu: trichinella is a fucking worm you still won'
t likely see it.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: RetroUpriser: Generally in a steak if there was a pathogen of conern you'd see/smell the abcess and wonder then the cow got into a knife fight << nah, most of the stuff youi can get that way you don'
t see.
mircea_popescu: hadn'
t he done so, you'd probably have heard spineless gonzalez, bharara et all argue for the legitimacy of their use.
BingoBoingo: Basically for all of the expense and derping, USDA can'
t actually guarentee its own guarentees
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they don'
t have endemic brucellosis in the us anymore do they ?!
RetroUpriser: I mean, i wouldn'
t be drinking raw milk from walmart brand cows
BingoBoingo: Meat usually isn'
t so bad because there's less vulnerable surface area than milk
RetroUpriser: Bottom line is that you shouldn'
t expose yourself to unclean products when you know they are of shady origin. But when you have a local farm that you can check out and see its sanitary conditions yourself.. it takes alot of the risk out of the picture.
BingoBoingo: Which is why if the milk was raw yu want it in already fermented products where either dangerous smells would be stronger or the product wouldn'
t appear right. Milk itself is dangerous though.
BingoBoingo: On the otherhand it isn'
t the slightest bit unbelievable for a dairy cow to drag its titties through cow shit
RetroUpriser: So you'd think but i'm sure that isn'
t the case alot of the time
BingoBoingo: Well the thing is something cultured with the right stuff doesn'
t give the wrong stuff the chance to live and you can tell by smell. It's why cheese and yogurt are safe but raw milk is a highway to the dangerzone
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn'
t there, or it is invalid.