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asciilifeform: very solid, a++++
BingoBoingo: Aha, you've got a rather solid cure then
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform comments don't allow < semantically because it's the start of a html tag ; articles have problems parsing (( and )) because it's footnote convention
asciilifeform: in re shannonizer lulz, http://www.onthelambda.com/2014/02/20/how-to-fake-a-sophisticated-knowledge-of-wine-with-markov-chains/
phf: oh somebody mentioned candi_lustt in a message, i think a111, and that triggered mp's code, which in turn has some exciting exponential properties
a111: Logged on 2017-01-13 20:13 candi_lustt: error: #<sb-int:simple-reader-package-error "The symbol ~S is not external in the ~A package." {10070E98E3}>
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you have a key for her?
candi_lustt: error: #<sb-int:simple-reader-package-error "The symbol ~S is not external in the ~A package." {10070E98E3}> ☟︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you have a key for her?
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : ben_vulpes would you join candi here and set everyone in l1 to its eat list ? i deem you've satisfied contractual obligations re support ; if you'll be kind enough to bring it back within a day or two should it get knocked off that's entirely fine by my lights. and everyone else : have fun with the lisp repl, but don't abuse.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/01/13/mothers-and-fathers/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Mothers and fathers.
mircea_popescu: i have a solution for that, too! http://trilema.com/2016/an-immodest-proposal/
asciilifeform: it so happens that i read all of the material from the naggum archive. and apparently d00d lived in oslo, a very strongly socialist hellhole, and hated it for all of the right reasons.
mircea_popescu: naggum evidently intends restrictions as to shape AND USAGE. this you don't see because you opt to, but in his world, as constructed from his words, it is legitimate for someone to come and tell you "this isn't a proper use of the public service", and it is illegitimate for you to retort "tough"
mircea_popescu: this is a generous read to the point of wishful thinking, i suspect.
asciilifeform: are we talking of same d00d? because the phf i recall sleeps in a tent, in arizona desert, surrounded by 48 virgins
asciilifeform: i must've missed one hell of a thread. where, e.g., phf was 'delicate'..?
mircea_popescu: much like his "car going off road is bad mkay" made my skin crawl. why the fuck would i ALWAYS go anywhere there's a road, what am i, too young to grow a beard ?
asciilifeform: ^ actually a discussion of cl strings!
asciilifeform: 'Common Lisp is a big-city language. Spit out the hayseed, pronounce "shit" with one syllable and "shotgun" with two. You're not in Kansas, anymore. C is the language of the poor farmer village where the allocation of every seed and livestock matters, where taxes are low and public service non-existent.'
a111: Logged on 2016-04-02 01:12 phf: Nah, universally. A significant property of arrays shared across languages is that they give you some guarantees about access time, space utilization
a111: Logged on 2015-11-09 04:39 phf: which brings me to the point that i have folders for all but "make new hardware" item in that list of b-a scope in various states of disarray, and it would be great if there was some prioritization, like it was the case with eulora "oh we need this done, you do it".
mircea_popescu: digging through the logs to find a point of reference for " phf that actually goes back to a thread long time ago" i found http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-09#1320422 instead. how did the proposed solution work out for you phf ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-12 23:25 mircea_popescu: btw ben_vulpes : you might consider making yourself a process to stand up vps instances of listener nodes to spray out at you new blocks as they hear them.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-12#1602003 << we do not, afaik, presently have a knob in trb that would enable the 'at you' part of this. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: so i tried to watch naked (2013). the most i can say is that the atrocity is a fine explanation of why there isn't such a thing as english philosophy.
asciilifeform: 'remarkable build' for pc would be, say, water cooling thing made from toyota. ( asciilifeform had this nonsense as a student. )
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: and it took a coupla hours.
pete_dushenski: but that still leaves a lotta jews w/o blogs who have no dentist in the fam!
asciilifeform: ended up with a thing ~= the size of a breadbox.
ben_vulpes: but wtf who isn't 2 jumps away from a dentist
asciilifeform: (unless the year is 1995 and it's a 'tadpole sparcbook' etc)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i just built a heathentron box with very similar specs, for roughly 1/4 the cost
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al : http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/#comment-121047
pete_dushenski: in other other strange that should've died two decades ago but lives, anyone missing their old apple 'portable' now has a latter day option : https://www.cnet.com/products/acer-predator-21x/preview/
ben_vulpes: heh and a case could be made for bill's dong making an appearnace as well
ben_vulpes: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ciagov/9779277632/ << a baby hillary!
phf: ben_vulpes: it's a silly convention, because count(anything) would've returned the row count. select count(42) from foo would've returned the same result
ben_vulpes: eh, if i'd done it against a table with two rows it'd have made sense immediately.
ben_vulpes: the really funny thing is that i ran a similar query against a table with one row
Framedragger: count() takes "what to return for *every* matching row", basically. "1" is also a thing to return, so it returns >15m of "1"s
ben_vulpes: i am going to raise my hand and ask a stupid question
ben_vulpes: "a database for when persistence means turning fsync on"
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: ya no love lost for oleganza anymore. had some fun chatting and dining with him a few years back but he's still not here so not much hope for him really.
pete_dushenski: "Trilema hurt my head on-and-off for Nearly a year.Then it hit me like a ton of bricks-shit." << what chrome thinks my en quote would sound like if it were ro then converted back to en.
mircea_popescu: phf to quote from a film i don't recall, "niente coveri, solo corpi di tinere donne"
Framedragger: ^ alright, worx. may not be too terribly useful, but it uses a new l33t backend provided by siphnos.mkj.lt, to be documented later
mircea_popescu: should be a comicv
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes he's not a lord yet, dun have a castle, what can he do
mircea_popescu: the 2nd one has a proper source, maybe just read the original ? it's a for-romanian-tards discussion of an english piece
pete_dushenski: if you have, it doesn't have a trackback at least
mircea_popescu: from ancient tomes : "organizarea actuala a Serviciului Statisticei Demografice, destinata a fi una din realizarile cele mai perfectionate existente in prezent, s'a putu face in primul rind datorita concursului acordat de catre Fundatiunea Americana Rockefeller, care, prin conventiunea incheiata cu Ministerul Sanatatii, asigura timp the patru ani insemnate fonduri banesti, pina la un procent de 44.39% din totalul fondului de
mircea_popescu: they're not terribly expensive, if you have an automated process can get 10-20 up at all times with a lifetime no longer than 2-4 weeks for less than 1btc/year. experimentally that's the lower margin of enough.
mircea_popescu: btw ben_vulpes : you might consider making yourself a process to stand up vps instances of listener nodes to spray out at you new blocks as they hear them. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: whaack: is this a trb node?
whaack: ty! I just finished setting up a bouncer. Re the last time I was here http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-29#1550381 my ultimate solution was just clearing my .bitcoin I believe and running it again and it did not get stuck. I never figured out why i was stuck ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/#comment-121046
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: that usg scientism article is a hoot
ben_vulpes: who is the monoagent in webtech? i see a zillion "dev", "companies" etc
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes webtech is not a system with multiple agents.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 14:41 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599676 << for the record, there isn't a case in history YET where schelling point was anything than against complexity.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-12#1601941 << this is a useful record in that one can take the list of mimisbrunnr , which exists timestampted in chan, and compare to list of blockchain.info for instance, see what dt is involved. sum it up over 10k blocks or whatever ☝︎
mircea_popescu: maybe they should shoot some flaming ice for a change.
asciilifeform: otherwise it reduces to a fancy crc32.
asciilifeform: when you look for a hash collision, your goal is to find ~some~ M that produces the particular desired R.
asciilifeform: from the output with which you want a collision.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't have a proggy written, but the general idea is not monumentally arcane -- you simply work backwards
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in völkischer beobachter , https://archive.is/Xztp7 >> 'In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections. ... Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch signed the new rules, permitting the N.S.A. to disseminate “raw signals intelligence
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu while sleeping i had a thought re http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function and my earlier attempt thereof likewise : that the thing may not in fact be ~collision-resistant~ (it may not be so difficult to take an arbitrary desired output and find a tape that hashes to it.)
trinque: holy shit, I just considered making a joke that they should have seeds in them.
ben_vulpes: there is some lag between when it learns about a block and when it reports it to irc, as it dumps and parses blocks, but it reports the logged timestamp accurately to the best of my knowledge.
asciilifeform: in late 19th c. usa, the land of p.t. barnum & co, there was a (one of many) mass-hysteria crackpotteries, an obsession with 'properly chewing your food before you swallow it.' complete with maxims such as the unforgettable 'nature shall castigate those who don't masticate!' the hayek, rand, etc. folx reminds me of nothing more than of this.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-12#1601807 << i looked at his recent pieces, what a massive load of americanized 'misesian', 'randroid' claptrap. mega-snoar. ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/why-politicians-dont-ever-do-anything-for-the-people-a-model/ << Trilema - Why politicians don't ever do anything for the people, a model
mircea_popescu: actually, let me restate it in a form i better like!
asciilifeform: '...suppose you drive down the highway and you suddenly want to go some nice place you saw just before you pass a forest. you veer off the road, plunge into the wilderness and promptly decide that you need four-wheel drive, a huge cutting device in front of your car, much better shock absorbers, a bigger engine that could actually run on swamp water instead of getting all drowned, and then need an amphibious vehicle to get across the ☟︎
asciilifeform: in other languages, e.g., python, ruby, there is a lesser sin, you end up stuffing multitude of O(n) ops in places where you oughta have O(1), O(n^2) ops where with some thought you could've had O(n), etc. and the braindamage adds up
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's very symbolically imperial, also. the language of "rights" and "rule of law" makes it trival to start a "war on drugs" or "women against rape". then the state ends and everyone is at a loss why the fuck it did.
mircea_popescu: cue ballas with his "there's a difference between what you need and what you want, and the media will relentlessly give you strings"
asciilifeform: davout: in some programming systems, it is very easy to inadvertently ask the machine to solve an np-hard problem. and for 0 good reason, other than that making such a language stroked academitard cocks
mircea_popescu: the computer doesn't in the slightest mind running in a for loop from now until the heat-end of history. however, it would humbly request you actually write its death sentence deliberately rather than by uncomprehended accidenty.
mircea_popescu: then again how to speak truth to clueless is a quite open problem in the first place.
mircea_popescu: there's two points. one, where i saw it at the periphery and feared it may be a thing, which made me pretty pissy : http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate?d=2017-1-11#1340 and then http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate?d=2017-1-11#1374 as the issue was structuring in my head. then of course the closing comments early today morning, http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate?d=2017-1-12#323 as the thing couldn't actually be dismissed.
mircea_popescu: see the whole point of "string" as a concept (and from it, as a type) is based on a fundamental ambiguity. now it's this, now it's that.
mircea_popescu: all you need is a false implication somewhere, davout ; ANYWHERE. once you have it then everything becomes provable.
davout: it's still not very clear to me how the ability to manipulate string a bit more easily is equivalent to heresy
mircea_popescu: possibly your idea of "scales" is tainted by the idiots, "to scale means to be used by a larger cattle headcount". that has nothing to do. to scale means to go up the abstraction tree. an apple is a correct apple if it scales, ie, if the concept of apple follows from it.
davout: because all abstractions and conveniences have a cost
mircea_popescu: sinful is also a proper attribute of incorrectness, because it is literally a headless spawn of the very devil.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i quite enjoyed flailing for definitions once i realised what the problem was (you can tell i move to arrays at some point in a desperate bid etc)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-09 15:10 mircea_popescu: this is how a mother acts, and why kids have not much business with her past the age of about 10 or so, depending how retarded they are.
mircea_popescu: the objection is that it bundles incorrect convenience, which is NEVER a good thing. link here to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-09#1599790 ☝︎
davout: which may or may not be a good thing depending on the particular point of view
davout: the point is simply that it bundles a good bit of convenience
mircea_popescu: on which basis i enjoy ruby a lot less.
mircea_popescu: well, a large part of the problem is that strings aren't something.
trinque has a left-alt (which is rebound to hyper) + d binding that pops up docs for w/e language
a111: Logged on 2017-01-12 10:08 davout: it's annoying to have to click back and forth, i'd like to be able to simply scroll through it, like a normal person
davout: it's annoying to have to click back and forth, i'd like to be able to simply scroll through it, like a normal person ☟︎
davout: asciilifeform: does the CLHS exist as a single-page HTML doc ?